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** Moreover, there should be a Zelda sleeping in the present as well (you can see the orange crystal since the very beginning of the game if you look through the Door of Time in first-person), which means she's been there before she was even born in Skyloft!
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* Zelda travels back in time with Impa / sleeps through TheSlowPath / travels back in time with Ghirahim. Does it mean that, during Ghirahim's ritual at the bottom of the pit, there was another Zelda sleeping in the temple?
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* Zelda travels back in time with Impa / sleeps through TheSlowPath / travels back in time with Ghirahim. Does it mean that, during Ghirahim's ritual at the bottom of the pit, there was is another Zelda sleeping in the temple?
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* Zelda travels back in time with Impa / sleeps through TheSlowPath / travels back in time with Ghirahim. Does it mean that, during Ghirahim's ritual at the bottom of the pit, there was another Zelda sleeping in the temple?
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**** That seems to be a pretty accurate analogy for them, yes.
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*** Unless I'm mistaken, Timeshift Stones aren't ''portals'' into the past. They regress the area within their radius back to the state they were an undisclosed amount of time into the past, but Link's not actually going back into the past. Perhaps the effect of the Timeshift Stones is limited to beings and things that have spent quite some time in the province, or have explicitly only existed in the past that they reach into.
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*** So, [[spoiler: Fi is basically [[VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork a NetNavi]] whereas Girahim is a [[VideoGame/MegaMan Robot Master]], with both using the same storage medium and being the same overall type of being (AI), but with extremely different purposes and means of interaction constructed to suit those purposes]]?
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*** So, [[spoiler: Fi is basically [[VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork [[MegaManBattleNetwork a NetNavi]] whereas Girahim is a [[VideoGame/MegaMan Robot Master]], with both using the same storage medium and being the same overall type of being (AI), but with extremely different purposes and means of interaction constructed to suit those purposes]]?
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*** So, [[spoiler: Fi is basically [[VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork a NetNavi]] whereas Girahim is a [[VideoGame/MegaMan Robot Master]]]]?
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*** So, [[spoiler: Fi is basically [[VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork a NetNavi]] whereas Girahim is a [[VideoGame/MegaMan Robot Master]]]]? Master]], with both using the same storage medium and being the same overall type of being (AI), but with extremely different purposes and means of interaction constructed to suit those purposes]]?
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*** So, [[spoiler: Fi is basically [[VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork a NetNavi]] whereas Girahim is a [[VideoGame/MegaMan Robot Master]]]]?
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** Fi and [[spoiler: Ghirahim]] aren't as similar to one another as they may initially seem. Fi is an artificial being created by the Goddess who inhabits/is tied to the Goddess Sword, whose sole purpose is to guide the Hero in his quest. She has no arms because she has no need to interact with the world physically. [[spoiler: Ghirahim]] on the other hand, seems to be [[spoiler: the living embodiment of Demise's "Dark Master Sword", in that he can interact with the world, independently of his master. Having functional limbs is pretty useful to him.]]
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** Fi and [[spoiler: Ghirahim]] aren't as similar to one another as they may initially seem. Fi is an artificial being created by the Goddess who inhabits/is tied to the Goddess Sword, whose sole purpose is to guide the Hero in his quest. She has no arms because she has no need to interact with the world physically. [[spoiler: Ghirahim]] on the other hand, seems to be [[spoiler: the living embodiment of Demise's "Dark Master Sword", in that he can with the ability to interact with the world, world independently of his master. Having functional limbs is pretty useful to him.]]
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** Fi and [[spoiler: Ghirahim]] aren't as similar to one another as they may initially seem. Fi is an artificial being created by the Goddess who inhabits/is tied to the Goddess Sword, whose sole purpose is to guide the Hero in his quest. She has no arms because she has no need to interact with the world physically. [[spoiler: Ghirahim]] on the other hand, seems to be [[spoiler: the living embodiment of Demise's "Dark Master Sword", in that he can interact with the world, independently of his master. Having functional limbs is pretty useful to him.]]
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* Why is it that [[spoiler: Girahim]] has arms, but Fi doesn't, if they're the same type of being?
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** Let's not forget that timelines can be altered. Even though the Triforce is safe and sound in their future, that doesn't mean that, if Impa wasn't there to protect everything, that another agent of Demise or the Ghirahim that is not yet dead could make an attempt on it. She has to stay, because that ensures that the timeline that does occur happens.
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** Judging from the geography, Lake Hylia/Floria is different from the Lanayru region. And I always assumed it was just time passing and climates changing.
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** So the younger students (living in the lower floor) have to get past the older students' and teachers' rooms to leave the academy? It's a good way to control who leaves the building without downright closing the doors.
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**** My only issue with that "Loftwings can't break through" thing is that even once you punch giant gaping holes in this massive cloud wall, your Loftwing ''still'' won't fly below the clouds. Ever fly near one of the holes at the lowest possible altitude? The Loftwing will dump you on its own; you don't even have to dive. It's possible the Loftwings have some sort of instinct to avoid it at all costs, even if it means abandoning their bonded Skyloftian rider. If that's the case, it may not be that the cloud barrier is "impenetrable" and more a case of "no one's ever tried it and come back to prove otherwise." And there's still the issue of those octoroks mentioned above.
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*** Paraphrased from Soul Music because it's relevant here:
"That little shop? It's always been here."
"Yes, but was it always here yesterday?"
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*** Paraphrased from Soul Music because it's relevant here:
here: "That little shop? It's always been here."
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*** Paraphrased from Soul Music because it's relevant here:
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** Probably not an oversight, as Zelda in the present/future makes reference to protecting the Triforce (okay, so either not an oversight or a blindingly huge oversight). The Triforce must have existed in the past as well, though, so perhaps Impa means to guard the Triforce up until Link sets out to obtain it in the present/future?
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*So, Skyward Sword supposedly takes place before Ocarina of Time, meaning it takes place before Twilight Princess. Can someone tell me how Lanayru turned from an ocean to a desert, and then to a lake in Twilight Princess? Is it just because of the time that passed, or are they in different areas?
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* Why is the bottom floor of the Knight Academy locked at night? The top and bottom can both be accessed from outside by going up stairs, all it does is mildly inconvenience people.
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** The other three are referred to as the "old gods". Apparently Hylia is a younger, weaker god.
* After you defeat Demise, Impa says she has to stay in the past to protect the Triforce (and Master Sword). But wait...isn't the Triforce still in the ''future''?
* After you defeat Demise, Impa says she has to stay in the past to protect the Triforce (and Master Sword). But wait...isn't the Triforce still in the ''future''?
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** Perhaps the hatred/spirit of Demise sortof lurks around, searching for someone evil enough to meet Demise's standards and/or someone who will likely desire to kill the newest Chosen Hero (i.e. Link). When the hatred/spirit finds such a person (i.e. Ganondorf), it gives him a magical power-up. So Ganondorf always had his own motivations, but Demise helped him out.
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** This troper believes that [[spoiler: Demise's hatred]] equals [[spoiler: Hylia's soul]] as Ganondorf equals Princess Zelda. Ganondorf is basically a part of [[spoiler: Demise]] in human form, without any memory of his possible ancient past but with his great ambition, and a little voice telling him to distrust and antagonize Link and Zelda. While, deep inside, [[spoiler: Demise]] knows that his hatred stems from an ancient past in which [[spoiler: Hylia]] sealed him and [[spoiler: the Goddess' Hero]] took his life, Ganondorf rationalizes his urge, telling himself that Link (or the long line of Links according to the ''One Ganon Theory''), is an interloper preventing him from achieving his destiny, and Zelda is a source of power waiting to be used and discarded. As for Ganon, Ganondorf simply believes his mastery and affinity for dark magic a byproduct of his tutelage and his efforts.
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** This troper believes that [[spoiler: Demise's hatred]] equals [[spoiler: Hylia's soul]] as Ganondorf equals Princess Zelda. Ganondorf is basically a part of [[spoiler: Demise]] in human form, without any memory of his possible ancient past but with his great ambition, and a little voice telling him to distrust and antagonize Link and Zelda. While, deep inside, [[spoiler: Demise]] knows that his hatred stems from an ancient past in which [[spoiler: Hylia]] sealed him and [[spoiler: the Goddess' Hero]] took his life, Ganondorf rationalizes his urge, telling himself that Link (or the long line of Links according to the ''One Ganon Theory''), is an interloper preventing him from achieving his destiny, and Zelda is a source of power waiting to be used and discarded. As for Ganon, Ganondorf simply believes his mastery and affinity for dark magic a byproduct of his tutelage and his efforts. efforts.
** [[spoiler:The way I interpreted it, it doesn't mean that Ganondorf is in any way directly connected to Demise but that the latter's hatred remained in the land/universe (whatever you want to call it) and caused the birth/creation of evil beings like Ganondorf.]]
** [[spoiler:The way I interpreted it, it doesn't mean that Ganondorf is in any way directly connected to Demise but that the latter's hatred remained in the land/universe (whatever you want to call it) and caused the birth/creation of evil beings like Ganondorf.]]
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** From what I can tell, she's a lower-ranked fourth goddess the other three left behind to keep an eye on the Triforce after their departure.
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* In Skyward Sword, we're introduced to a single Goddess ([[spoiler:Hylia/Zelda]]), while in earlier games, there's always been three (Din, Naryu, Farore). So has there always been just one Goddess, or is [[spoiler:Hylia]] a fourth Goddess alongside the original three that created the Triforce?
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** Note that the main island of Skyloft that we see appears to be something of a boarding school or college. While some other students would have come to the island for the purpose of the school, Zelda would have been there for her whole life because of her father's work, and Link, well... perhaps he was [[WildMassGuessing brought to Skyloft as a child and taken in by the people there]]?
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**[[spoiler:Watch until the end of the credits. Zelda's Loftwing is there, and flies off into the sunset with Link's.]]
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* Is Zelda's Loftwing ever seen or mentioned after the black tornado? Why would everyone just forget about him?
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*** No, he said ''impenetrable'', meaning that Loftwings can't break through, which the game also states. This is also why the statues send Link back above it rather then his Loftwing simply coming down and flying back up.
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** I think it is reasonable to suppose that Skyloft is much bigger than it appears in game. I mean, they lived there for a thousand years. To suppose that what we see is the actual extant of the civilization is pretty ridiculous, how could such a small population remain so stable for so long? Especially since the various families we do see don't appear to be related to each other...
