History Headscratchers / TheLegendOfKorraTechnologyAndMedicine

13th Jun '16 5:53:51 AM Tuomas
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** Four counter-arguments: 1) MedievalStasis doesn't explain it, when ''The Legend of Korra'' shows that the Avatar ''can'' go through rapid societal and technological changes. 2) The FarEast has never been in a state of stasis, and the area certainly experienced massive changes in the 10,000 years that preceded the 1920s (the decade equivalent to the setting of [=TLoK=]). 3) It's never said the previously Avatars "deliberately kept the four nations separate"; why would they have done so? Roku tried to stop Sozen from forcibly colonizing a part of the Earth Kingdom, but it seems unlikely the Avatars would been against peaceful trade and exhange of ideas between the nations, which would lead to technological and social progress. 4) There's little information on the history of the Avatar world preceding the 100 Year War, so how would we know there were no large scale trade networks? Since bending allows greater mobility for trade vessels, and the Avatar world appears to be significantly smaller than ours, so there's no reason to assume such trade routes didn't exist. Also, even the members of Katara and Sokka's remote tribe seem to have a decent basic knowledge on the other three nations and their habits, and merchants in Earth Kingdom recognize the coins Katara and Sokka give to them as Water Tribe money, so it looks like trade and exchange of knowledge between the nations was going on the whole time, and they weren't being kept completely separate.

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** Four counter-arguments: 1) MedievalStasis doesn't explain it, when ''The Legend of Korra'' shows that the Avatar ''can'' go through rapid societal and technological changes. 2) The FarEast has never been in a state of stasis, and the area certainly experienced massive changes in the 10,000 years that preceded the 1920s (the decade equivalent to the setting of [=TLoK=]). 3) It's never said the previously Avatars "deliberately kept the four nations separate"; why would they have done so? Roku tried to stop Sozen from forcibly colonizing a part of the Earth Kingdom, but it seems unlikely the Avatars would would've been against peaceful trade and exhange of ideas between the nations, which would lead to technological and social progress. 4) There's little information on the history of the Avatar world preceding the 100 Year War, so how would we know there were no large scale trade networks? Since bending allows greater mobility for trade vessels, and the Avatar world appears to be significantly smaller than ours, so there's no reason to assume such trade routes didn't exist. Also, even the members of Katara and Sokka's remote tribe seem to have a decent basic knowledge on the other three nations and their habits, and merchants in Earth Kingdom recognize the coins Katara and Sokka give to them as Water Tribe money, so it looks like trade and exchange of knowledge between the nations was going on the whole time, and they weren't being kept completely separate.
13th Jun '16 5:53:15 AM Tuomas
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** Four counter-arguments: 1) MedievalStasis doesn't explain it, when ''The Legend of Korra'' shows that the Avatar ''can'' go through rapid societal and technological changes. 2) The FarEast has never been a state of stasis, and the area certainly experienced massive changes in the 10,000 years that preceded the 1920s (the decade equivalent to the setting of [=TLoK=]). 3) It's never said the previously Avatars "deliberately kept the four nations separate"; why would they have done so? Roku tried to stop Sozen from forcibly colonizing a part of the Earth Kingdom, but it seems unlikely the Avatars would been against peaceful trade and exhange of ideas between the nations, which would lead to technological and social progress. 4) There's little information on the history of the Avatar world preceding the 100 Year War, so how would we know there were no large scale trade networks? Since bending allows greater mobility for trade vessels, and the Avatar world appears to be significantly smaller than ours, so there's no reason to assume such trade routes didn't exist. Also, even the members of Katara and Sokka's remote tribe seem to have a decent basic knowledge on the other three nations and their habits, and merchants in Earth Kingdom recognize the coins Katara and Sokka give to them as Water Tribe money, so it looks like trade and exchange of knowledge between the nations was going on the whole time, and they weren't being kept completely separate.

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** Four counter-arguments: 1) MedievalStasis doesn't explain it, when ''The Legend of Korra'' shows that the Avatar ''can'' go through rapid societal and technological changes. 2) The FarEast has never been in a state of stasis, and the area certainly experienced massive changes in the 10,000 years that preceded the 1920s (the decade equivalent to the setting of [=TLoK=]). 3) It's never said the previously Avatars "deliberately kept the four nations separate"; why would they have done so? Roku tried to stop Sozen from forcibly colonizing a part of the Earth Kingdom, but it seems unlikely the Avatars would been against peaceful trade and exhange of ideas between the nations, which would lead to technological and social progress. 4) There's little information on the history of the Avatar world preceding the 100 Year War, so how would we know there were no large scale trade networks? Since bending allows greater mobility for trade vessels, and the Avatar world appears to be significantly smaller than ours, so there's no reason to assume such trade routes didn't exist. Also, even the members of Katara and Sokka's remote tribe seem to have a decent basic knowledge on the other three nations and their habits, and merchants in Earth Kingdom recognize the coins Katara and Sokka give to them as Water Tribe money, so it looks like trade and exchange of knowledge between the nations was going on the whole time, and they weren't being kept completely separate.
13th Jun '16 5:50:42 AM Tuomas
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** Four counter-arguments: 1) MedievalStasis doesn't explain it, when ''The Legend of Korra'' shows that the Avatar ''can'' go through rapid societal and technological changes. 2) The FarEast has never been a state of stasis, and the area certainly experienced massive changes in the 10,000 years that preceded the 1920s (the decade equivalent to the setting of [=TLoK=]). 3) It's never said the previously Avatars "deliberately kept the four nations separate"; why would they have done so? Roku tried to stop Sozen from forcibly colonizing a part of the Earth Kingdom, but it seems unlikely the Avatars would been against peaceful trade and exhange of ideas between the nations, which would lead to technological and social progress. 4) There's little information on the history of the Avatar world preceding the 100 Year War, so how would we know there were no large scale trade networks? Since bending allows greater mobility for trade vessels, and the Avatar world appears to be significantly smaller than ours, so there's no reason to assume such trade routes didn't exist. Also, even the members of Katara and Sokka's remote tribe seem to have a decent basic knowledge on the other three nations and their habits, and merchants in Earth Kingdom recognize the coins Katara and Sokka give to them as Water Tribe money, so it looks like trade and exchange of knowledge between the nations was going on the whole time, and they weren't being kept completely separate.
28th May '16 9:23:20 AM brolaf
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** Four reasons: 1) [[MedievalStasis It's a fantasy world]], 2) It's heavily based on the FarEast, 3) A fully realized [[TheChosenOne Avatar]] can stop an army in its tracks and deliberately kept the four nations separate, and 4) The world of Avatar seems to have little in the way of large scale trade networks like the Silk Road or the Indian Ocean trade network. So basically, Katara was right: Everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
28th Dec '15 1:32:02 AM Tuomas
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** But the question wasn't about repopulating of the planet, rather than the level of technology, which doesn't change that much from Wan's era to the [=AtlA=] era. Compare that to the changes in technology in our world in the last 10,000 years, and the discrepancy is massive, especially if you consider that the Avatar world has an incredibly efficient power source (bending) that our world doesn't have. So why was there 10,000 years of stagnation followed by 70 years of fast changes?
30th Sep '15 2:32:17 AM Unityd3v
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** Batteries also make sense in tandem with lightning benders. This way, any excess electricity harnessed from the lightning benders can be stored for future use.
** Mecha tanks, at least in Book 1, seem to at least run on some sort of internal combustion.
30th Sep '15 2:20:36 AM Unityd3v
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** Compared to the over 10,000 years from the beginning of real life recorded history to where we are now, this isn't as slow as you think it is.

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** Compared to the over 10,000 years from the beginning of civilization in real life recorded history to where we are now, this isn't as slow as you think it is.is. The people in Wan's time were basically TheRemnant who were left over after some apocalypse that had them living solely on the lion turtles, basically 4 small cities worth of humans. Taking centuries and even millennia to repolulate the planet to the levels we see in both series (especially taking major wars into consideration) isn't that far fetched.
30th Sep '15 2:17:19 AM Unityd3v
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** Compared to the over 10,000 years from the beginning of real life recorded history to where we are now, this isn't as slow as you think it is.
28th Sep '15 5:44:39 PM Squirtle802
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* Common complaint when it comes to robots, but why the hell was it bipedal? It'd be a lot more stable, a lot easier to control, and presumably easier to build if it were on treads like the mecha tanks were. The smaller mecha suits were bipedal too, which is also a little silly, but it seems like not being able to lose your balance would be relatively high on your list of priorities when designing a 25-story colossus.
23rd Jul '15 12:42:01 AM Tuomas
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* In [[Recap/TheLegendOfKorraS2E7BeginningsPartOne "Beginnings Part 1"]] we see what human societies looked like ten thousand years ago, and they don't look all that different from the societies we see in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. For example, Wan's home city doesn't look that different from Omashu. All that seems to have changed in the following 10,000 years is that the Fire Nation has developed some steampunk technology, and the Earth Kingdom has come up with a few creative ways to use earthbending, such as moving trains with it. So, basically, in 10,000 years the Avatar world went from pseudo-Medieval to pseudo-Medieval with some steampunk elements, but in the following 70 years it became fully modern with skyscapers, electricity, cars, movies, radio, etc. If we compare this to our world, 10,000 years ago people were still living in the Stone Age, and agriculture had barely began. Now, obviously the Hundred Year War was a major catalyst for technological and societal changes, but it still doesn't make sense that no big changes happened in the thousands of years that preceded it.

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* In [[Recap/TheLegendOfKorraS2E7BeginningsPartOne "Beginnings Part 1"]] 1"]], we see what human societies looked like ten thousand years ago, and they don't look all that different from the societies we see in ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender''. For example, Wan's home city doesn't look that different from Omashu. All that seems to have changed in the following 10,000 years is that the Fire Nation has developed some steampunk technology, and the Earth Kingdom has come up with a few creative ways to use earthbending, such as moving trains with it. So, basically, in 10,000 years the Avatar world went from pseudo-Medieval to pseudo-Medieval with some steampunk elements, but in the following 70 years it became fully modern with skyscapers, electricity, cars, movies, radio, etc. If we compare this to our world, 10,000 years ago people were still living in the Stone Age, and agriculture had barely began. Now, obviously the Hundred Year War was a major catalyst for technological and societal changes, but it still doesn't make sense that no big changes happened in the thousands of years that preceded it.
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