History Headscratchers / TheKingkillerChronicle

12th May '18 11:51:31 AM phylos
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*** Yes, "lack of concern for the truth" does not mean "knowingly believing lies", the original point was that: "lack of concern for the truth", the first reply to that equated ''that'' to "believing in lies" is a non-sequitur. As for that question of breeding their animals without acknowledging it: indeed, that must be exactly what they are doing. How that makes sense, well, it doesn't, hence a headscratcher.
27th Apr '18 5:57:11 AM MasterFuzzy
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*** Or he was just being a total {{Troll}} and asking a random question ForTheLulz. This ''is'' Elodin we're talking about.
10th Apr '18 8:33:00 PM CaptainCrawdad
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*** I'm not seeing how that makes sense. Trying to hide the missing money by inventing added expenses is still garden-variety embezzlement. Unless the bursar is given complete carte blanche over the school's finances (something that seems doubtful in an advanced institution of higher learning that is so concerned with tuition), he risks getting exposed if anyone else at the University did an audit. On the other hand, there's no threat of the Maer making any sort of inquiry over the tuition. First of all, the whole point of the scam is that the Maer does not care how much he's paying toward Kvothe's tuition. Secondly, he has no reason to suspect that the bills he's receiving are not for the same amounts that are being recorded in the University's ledgers. At the most, he'd suspect that he's being overcharged by the University itself, not that the bills are being secretly inflated by a rogue faction within the school. Thirdly, having no authority over the University, he has no authority to inspect the University's accounts. Fourthly, even if he ''did'' send someone to check whether the money he payed to the University is the same amount of money the University thinks it received from him, he would be getting that information from none other than the bursar himself.

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*** I'm not seeing how that makes sense. Trying to hide the missing money by inventing added expenses is still garden-variety embezzlement. Unless the bursar is given complete carte blanche over the school's finances (something that seems doubtful in an advanced institution of higher learning that is so concerned with tuition), he risks getting exposed if anyone else at the University did an audit. On the other hand, there's no threat of the Maer making any sort of inquiry over the tuition. First of all, the whole point of the scam is that the Maer does not care how much he's paying toward Kvothe's tuition. Secondly, he has no reason to suspect that the bills he's receiving are not for the same amounts that are being recorded in the University's ledgers. At the most, he'd suspect that he's being overcharged by the University itself, not that the bills are being secretly inflated by a rogue faction within the school. Thirdly, having no authority over the University, he has no authority to inspect the University's accounts. Fourthly, even if he ''did'' send someone to check whether the money he payed to the University is the same amount of money the University thinks it received from him, he would be getting that information from none other than the bursar himself. Long story short: there's much more danger of the University checking its own books than the Maer checking them, so the bursar should be lying to the Maer, not the University.
10th Apr '18 8:30:30 PM CaptainCrawdad
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**** I don't have the context of that quote on me, but the quote in and of itself just speaks to a lack of curiosity, not a knowing understanding that they believe lies. Vashet feels convinced enough of what she understands to be true to simply accept it and move on with her life rather than ruthlessly testing everything with the scrutiny of a scientist. Furthermore, I'm not sure how the assertion that Adem don't believe what they say answers the original question. If the Adem really ''don't'' believe that there are no such things as fathers, are they secretly breeding their animals without acknowledging it?


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*** Heh, that's sort of an exception that proves the rule. The one time we hear about two instruments being played together is to say that it's "uncommon," and Kvothe is only interested in doing it so he can spend time with Denna.


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*** I'm not seeing how that makes sense. Trying to hide the missing money by inventing added expenses is still garden-variety embezzlement. Unless the bursar is given complete carte blanche over the school's finances (something that seems doubtful in an advanced institution of higher learning that is so concerned with tuition), he risks getting exposed if anyone else at the University did an audit. On the other hand, there's no threat of the Maer making any sort of inquiry over the tuition. First of all, the whole point of the scam is that the Maer does not care how much he's paying toward Kvothe's tuition. Secondly, he has no reason to suspect that the bills he's receiving are not for the same amounts that are being recorded in the University's ledgers. At the most, he'd suspect that he's being overcharged by the University itself, not that the bills are being secretly inflated by a rogue faction within the school. Thirdly, having no authority over the University, he has no authority to inspect the University's accounts. Fourthly, even if he ''did'' send someone to check whether the money he payed to the University is the same amount of money the University thinks it received from him, he would be getting that information from none other than the bursar himself.
10th Apr '18 7:32:57 PM CaptainCrawdad
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**** Presumably Elodin was spying on Kvothe, either through his Naming powers or simply by attending the Eolian in disguise. I doubt we'll get a definitive explanation. Elodin works in mysterious ways.
29th Dec '17 4:55:22 AM Javelin
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* WTF is up with Elodin's admissions question at the beginning of ''The Wise Man's Fear''?
** A few nights prior (p59), Kvothe is playing cards with his friends at the Eolian, and misplays a hand:
*** Manet glared at me while he gathered in the cards. "Here's a primer for admissions." He held up his hand, three fingers spearing angrily into the air. "Let's say you have three spades in your hand, and there have been five spades laid down [...] How many spades is that, total?"
** Then (p88) at Kvothe's admissions interview:
*** Elodin gave me a wicked, knowing grin [...] he held up three fingers dramatically. "You have three spades in your hand," he said. "And there have been five spades played." He steepled his fingers and looked at me seriously. "How many spades is that?"
28th Oct '17 3:22:48 PM purgethexenos
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** No. It is extremely easy to cover up said embezzlement. There are about 1500 students in the University, assuming an average tuition of 20 talents this amounts to 30.000 talents earned by the University every span. This also means that the University spends a lot. All the bursar has to do is to add the embezzled amount to a bulk purchase, faking a minor price increase. On the other hand, if the students' tuitions are recorded, making Maer pay extra would be revealed in an instant if he ever decided to check it out.
21st Oct '17 3:48:14 AM Arkanoid0
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** In book 2 while in Sevren Kvothe is talking about preforming with Denna, and even says "Half-Harp and lute is uncommon, but not unheard of."
18th Oct '17 3:36:28 PM phylos
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*** Eh:
----> Vashet smiled lazily. “And if the pursuit of truth was my goal, that would concern me.” She gave a long yawn, stretching like a happy cat. “Instead I will focus on the joy in my heart, the prosperity of the school, and understanding the Lethani. If I have time left after that, I will put it toward worrying on the truth.”
13th Jul '17 11:12:55 AM CaptainCrawdad
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** Adem women secretly controlling their pregnancies through diet is never even hinted at in the books. That would be a pretty major lie at the center of their society. Also, as I recall, the only cook we meet in Four Corners is a man. How do Adem women secretly control their diet when there are men making their food? Also, Adem women spend a lot of time away from their homeland fighting. How do they maintain a contraceptive diet when food resources are limited? Also, none of this addresses my previous concern that animal husbandry reveals the link between sexual intercourse and pregnancy.

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** Adem women secretly controlling their pregnancies through diet is never even hinted at in the books. That would be a pretty major lie at the center of their society. Also, as I recall, the only cook we meet in Four Corners Haert is a man. How do Adem women secretly control their diet when there are men making their food? Also, Adem women spend a lot of time away from their homeland fighting. How do they maintain a contraceptive diet when food resources are limited? Also, none of this addresses my previous concern that animal husbandry reveals the link between sexual intercourse and pregnancy.
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