History Headscratchers / TheHunchbackofNotreDame

11th Jul '17 6:06:22 AM sugaricequeen
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* So who rang the bells of Notre Dame before Quasi lived there? Did anyone? Did the Archdeacon do it himself, or did he have to fire someone else who had been doing it when Frollo ordered for Quasi to be moved there?
9th Jul '17 6:24:35 PM sugaricequeen
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*** Brandishing a knife at someone in a fit of fury and rage isn't the same as circumstances happening to allow you to drop them into a pit of molten metal. Plus, there's no reason to assume Quasi would've gone so far as to ''use'' the knife - he was just delivering a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech.
1st Jul '17 12:11:11 AM PeppermintSoda
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** Since people back then aged faster (hard life), I'd say Frollo was in his forties when the story began.
Here's a pic of [[http://www.thehunchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/d-frollo-2.png before]] and [[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-QosxwfNpdndJKKMhf0k0Wd5P7dUmnuYHhzik5coOiTeBOQ6w after]].

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** Since people back then aged faster (hard life), I'd say Frollo was in his forties when the story began.
began. Here's a pic of [[http://www.thehunchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/d-frollo-2.png before]] and [[https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-QosxwfNpdndJKKMhf0k0Wd5P7dUmnuYHhzik5coOiTeBOQ6w after]].
1st Jul '17 12:09:57 AM PeppermintSoda
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Since people back then aged faster (hard life), I'd say Frollo was in his forties when the story began.

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** Since people back then aged faster (hard life), I'd say Frollo was in his forties when the story began.
24th Jun '17 5:19:41 PM CaptHayfever
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*** Indulgence


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*** Lord, or Lamentation


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*** Mass, or Messiah


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*** Rosary


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*** Trespass


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*** ''Zzzzzzzz''--Oh! Um....you've bored me to sleep, Quasimodo! How dare you! Good night!
11th Jun '17 8:14:28 AM Overfiend
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** I doubt anything was done to them at all. Frollo did devolve into a genocidal megalomaniac, but his troops were duly recognized officers of the established authority, carrying out his the will of the guy in charge. In short, they were just following orders....
1st Jun '17 12:27:15 AM PeppermintSoda
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Here's a pic of before [[http://www.thehunchblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/d-frollo-2.png]] and [[after https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ-QosxwfNpdndJKKMhf0k0Wd5P7dUmnuYHhzik5coOiTeBOQ6w]].

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18th Apr '17 3:24:28 PM DoppleDelta
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** Probably by looking into the interior of La Fidele. It's not very likely that any of the other bells had those same decorations.

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** Probably by looking when he finally had the chance to sneak into Notre Dame, he was able to look inside and realize that the bejeweled interior of only belonged to La Fidele. It's not very likely that any of the other bells had those same decorations.Fidele.
18th Apr '17 10:23:22 AM DoppleDelta
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** Probably by looking into the interior of La Fidele. It's not very likely that any of the other bells had those same decorations.
* So, in the musical, Phoebus says that he spent four years at the front fighting. Question is, what did he come back from? As far as I can tell, he went off to fight in some military campaign, but which one?
11th Apr '17 9:19:44 PM huntdaddy
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** The movie makes it clear from the beginning that the Archdeacon knows that Frollo isn't a reasonable man, but given the fact that he straight up murdered a woman and attempted to do the same with her baby, in front of the cathedral no less, he knew that ''this'' would definitely be [[MoralEventHorizon the point of no return for his soul]], if nothing else. Therefore, he claims the only way that Frollo would have a remote chance of being forgiven for his actions was to raise the child whose mother he had just killed, and he may have figured that having any part in the upbringing would result in Frollo's soul being damned to hell. Regarding the mother's plea for sanctuary, it may be possible that the Archdeacon was either too late to hear her claim, or he only heard her knocking on the door, because he didn't seem to know about this, and if Frollo heard her pleas, he certainly wouldn't let it impede his authority, so he would most likely deny that her claiming sanctuary ever happened.

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** The movie makes it clear from the beginning that the Archdeacon knows that Frollo isn't a reasonable man, but given the fact that he straight up murdered a woman and attempted to do the same with her baby, in front of the cathedral no less, he knew that ''this'' would definitely be [[MoralEventHorizon the point of no return for his soul]], if nothing else. Therefore, he claims the only way that Frollo would have a remote chance of being forgiven for his actions was to raise the child whose mother he had just killed, and he may have figured that having any part in the upbringing would result in Frollo's soul being damned to hell. Regarding the mother's plea for sanctuary, it may be possible that the Archdeacon was either too late to hear her claim, or he only heard her knocking on the door, because he didn't seem to know about this, and if Frollo heard her pleas, he certainly wouldn't let it impede his authority, so he would most likely deny that her claiming sanctuary ever happened. Thus, even if Quasi had gained sanctuary at that time, it would not have mattered since nobody could vouch for him over the matter.
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