History Headscratchers / TheGame

* At the end of the film where Nick shoots his brother Conrad and plays possum at the roof, how'd Conrad manage to reach the gala hall during Nick's jump?

* At the end of the film where Nick shoots his brother Conrad, how'd Conrad manage to reach the gala hall during Nick's jump?

* At the end of the film where Nick shoots his brother, how'd he manage to reach the gala hall during Nick's jump?

As soon as you forgot it you're playing. As soon as you think about it you lose. Loss must be announced. What happens if you break a rule?

YOU JUST LOST IT
* YOU JUST WON THE GAME! Its OK, your free!
* So, what do you win if you The Game anyway? I decided I don't want to win it, so I want to know what I'm losing...
* I got disqualified from playing the game because I was cheating. What happens now?
** You've escaped, just as this Troper did. Not won (that is impossible to do permanently), but escaped. Congratulations! This is because, by this Troper's logic, the rules of The Game are: 1) If you know about The Game, you are playing it. 2) If you think about The Game, you lose. 3) If you lose, you must announce it. Therefore, if you claim that you refuse to play, or that you've WON (thereby refusing to lose while thinking about it) or if you consistently refuse to announce when you lose, you are cheating. In any reasonable game, players who constantly flout the rules are eventually disqualified and expelled from the game. Therefore, if you keep ignoring the rules of The Game, you eventually have to stop playing. InsaneTrollLogic ? Maybe, but this Troper stands by it. If, for some strange reason, you have been disqualified and want to ''rejoin'' the game, this Troper unfortunately cannot help you.
* [[FridgeLogic "A 'win' is absolute. A 'loss' is absolute. 'Winning' is not. 'Losing' is not. The former two require the game to end. The latter two don't and can generally be switched between on the fly. Once you end a game, you aren't required to restart it again. These are assumed rules that every game plays by. But yet this game most likely ignores these rules and refuses to factor for this with rules of it's own. Unless the game garners absolute loses or wins (at which point you'd be able to just refuse to play again), at any given time you are either LOSING or WINNING the game and still have a chance to start winning or losing again. In short: THIS ISN'T A GAME, NEVER WAS AND NEVER WILL BE. But it is one kickass social experiment.................]]
** Well, the loss of The Game is only temporary. A short while after losing the game (how long exactly is up to the player), one begins playing The Game again. It's akin to playing a card game one night, losing, and then playing it again the next night; even though I lost the first night, I still have a chance of winning the game the second night, and I am playing the game both nights. The one thing that makes The Game different from other games is that the players cannot choose to stop or start playing the game; they are always playing, except for the period directly after they lose.
*** Actually, the greatest fallacy in the concept of The Game is the absence of a winning condition. But to be a game, The Game should have one. Thus, The Game fails to qualify as what it claims to be, and so it is completely, absolutely and irreversibly compromised. So, we all can call ouselves out of it because the rules ''fail to comply as acceptable rules fo a game''. I'm not claiming of winning at The Game, because I didn't. [[BeyondTheImpossible I won ''against'' it]]. And haters gonna hate. (And don't think about claiming "the winning condition is that X must say 'the game is over'", since 99% of all people just cannot do it. It's almost like saying "to win you have to roll 7 with a regular six-faces dice". It would be still invalidated since the winning condition is unobtanaible.)
* I interpret losing the game as losing one point in the game.
* People who claim to win The Game, and who therefore completely miss the point and spoil the fun, bug me.
** Then it's working. Point it out even harder, everyone!
*** The thing is that as The Game is an entirely constructed concept (don't give me shit about it being a law of the universe) their claim to winning is just as valid as your claim of the rules of the game.
*** We know that, but it's bad sportsmanship, you know what I mean?
* What happens if you don't follow the third rule? You've already lost if you're in a position to break it. Are you considered not to be playing the Game? The ability to avoid playing the Game seems to be contrary to the point of the Game.
** Hell, you're wondering what happens when you break the third rule? I'm still waiting for a rules committee to come together and figure out what to do since I managed to break the second.
*** Ha, you think that is bad? because of XKCD, I am now Breaking the first rule.
* How can you WIN The Game?!
** Don't stop thinking about the game. That way, you only lose once.
** Oh, that's easy. You just have to think outside the box. In fact, think so far away that you're not even in the box. The problem is that you're trying to win The Game by, well, winning The Game. However, if you try to lose The Game, you'll lose at that... thereby winning The Game. Either that, or you will successfully lose at The Game... but since you accomplish your goal, you end up winning The Game. When you cannot win in any conventional manner, you must go forth in an unconventional manner.
*** Knowing that you lost and trying to lose doesn't make you win, when you have lost. That kind of thinking just makes no sense.
** Actually, it's even easier than that. All you have to do is accept that The Game is a construct of both your own mind and of society. Then read [[http://xkcd.com/391/ this page]], and associate the thought of The Game with yourself winning, not losing. Whenever I think about the Game now, I immediately think I won. Because Randall Munroe said so.
** You don't.
*** '''[[BigNo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO--]]''' Sorry what was that? Oh right, '''''[[BigNo NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!]]'''''
** How 'bout this one: You've spent more of your life Not thinking about The Game. So, every time you think about it, realize that you must've not been thinking about it before, or you wouldn't have noticed the change.
*** To make it more simple: don't try.
** When you realize that the game isn't actually a game, just a social experiment, then there is no way to lose it, since it isn't a game, and therefore you've won.
*** Therefore you've won? It doesn't really work like that. You're acting like just because you can't lose it, it means you've won. You have not sir, YOU HAVE NOT!
** Actually, the only real way to win is to never hear about it. Once you've heard about it, there's no going back.
*** Actually, that's debatable. You can't win without playing. The rules state that if you know about The Game, you're playing it. However, they ''don't'' state that you're not playing the game when you don't know about it. So, if you don't know about The Game, you might or might not be playing it, depending on your interpretation of rule 1. If rule 1 means that you're not playing it when you don't know about The Game, then you can't possibly win The Game if you don't know about it.
** If you want to win The Game, that xkcd strip does teh job nicely. If you merely want to avoid losing The Game, try keeping a [[http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=106537 Platinum Angel]] on you at all times.
** I talked last week to a girl who claims it's possible. She and a friend were attempting to explain the game to her mother. The more they talked, the more the mother's eyes began to zone out until it was clear she hadn't absorbed a single word. "Oh god!" thought the girl. "She's actually winning!"
** [[UnwinnableByDesign The Game is set up so that winning is an impossibility]]. When people realize that a game, any game, is impossible, they either stop playing or [[TakeAThirdOption cheat]]. That's what the XKCD strip did. And, just to hammer the point home, I will declare myself, now and forever, the winner of The Game. I've won, you people can keep playing if you want, but I'm out.
** When you think you've won The Game, you've just lost The Game. If you've won The Game you have no idea that you've just won The Game.
*** That's why we won by cheating.
**** ''AND'' by pointing out that The Game doesn't work like that, you've caught us cheating, meaning we have to be ''disqualified'' from playing The Game ever again because we'll cheat every time. Either way, ''we win''.
***** No, that's ridiculous. If you cheat a game, '''any''' game, and get disqualified from it, you don't win. That's like saying that everyone who gets banned on CounterStrike servers just won the round. And that doesn't make any sense.
****** You can't compare CounterStrike and The Game because they are fundamentally different in how they are played. CounterStrike isn't UnwinnableByDesign whereas The Game is. You can win if you play CounterStrike, but you will always lose if you play The Game. So, if you always lose if you play, then what incentive is there to play by the rules? '''None.''' If the entire purpose of The Game is to lose and we are all supposedly playing it whether we want to or not, then removing yourself from play can be considered a win simply because you are no longer involved in something that will always end in failure.
** Play it on opposite day.
*** '''YES!!!!''' Now when is opposite day...
** "The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?"
*** OMG. Chess is for nerds.
*** Chess is for badasses.
** Don't care about it. Not refuse to play, not try to trick your way out of it -- just shrug your shoulders and forget about it.
** What's the opposite of lose? Win? No! FIND! If you can FIND the game, you will not have LOST the game. Bwa ha ha ha!
** If you can make someone lose The Game without losing The Game yourself, then you've won. A tricky thing to do, for sure, but it can - and has - been done.
*** I can't believe it. It CAN be won. + 9000 internetz to you good sir!
** A person can either be losing or winning. A person loses by thinking of the game, and therefore wins by not thinking of the game. Most people have been thinking about the game for less than half of their lives. Therefore, most people are winning. Got that?\\
Now, consider this. You start playing The Game the moment you learn about it. Whenever you think about The Game, you lose. Therefore, you are playing The Game from when you think of it until you think of it again, during which time you are ''not'' thinking about it.\\
This means that you are almost always ''winning'' the game. The Game can only end with you losing, however. The game ends when you begin losing, according to the rules. This, of course, means that you can only be winning as long as you are playing The Game, and that you cannot lose while you are playing it. '''You ''cannot'' lose the game.''' You cannot technically win, but you ''will'' be winning for the majority of The Game.
** [[FlatWhat what]]\\
* Move to [[InSovietRussiaTropeMocksYou Soviet Russia]] - In Soviet Russia, The Game loses YOU!
** OK so I heard from multiple sources that a famous person like a president or a king or a prime minister goes on national television and says "The Game is up.", then The Game is over and no one is playing it anymore. So someone should just sneak that onto the teleprompter and we will be freed of this madness.
Where do the rules state that The Game ends when you lose? They don't. You just lose at The Game and you're in The Game again.\\
Also, saying that "Game ends upon losing IMPLIES impossible to lose" doesn't hold up in any game that involves losing whatsoever. I lost at chess the other day, ending that game of chess. Would I go around telling everyone that I didn't actually lose because the game ended as soon as I did? Of course I wouldn't!\\
Your first conclusion is already flawed! "A person can either be losing or winning." No, they can just as easily be ''playing'' the game, any game (including The Game), especially in a game that doesn't have a set end.\\
Since the rules of The Game don't define any Win criteria, it's impossible to win The Game. In fact, it's even impossible to be winning The Game. "To be winning" in this context means "About to win" and since you cannot win The Game, you can't be about to win it either.\\
Now, as you see, you can't be winning. So, are you losing all the time? Well, probably yes. "Probably" because it depends on the outcome. If you never think about The Game ever again, you're just playing The Game without losing. You are not, I repeat, '''not''' winning The Game as you can't be about to win. The rules don't state that you win as soon as you die or something. '''You ''cannot'' win the game.''' However, if you will think about The Game again anytime in the future, you are about to lose The Game, thus you are losing. You cannot technically win, but you ''will'' be losing for the majority of The Game.
* People who try to say that they "Won" the game annoy me. First of all, it's obvious that they didn't win, claiming victory is in itself counterproductive to winning, second of all, even if you declare yourself a 'Winner' it is ultimately an empty victory unless anyone around you acknowledges it. Imagine if you were playing a game like chess and declared that 'You won' not only would nobody really think you won, but nobody would be inclined to play with you, meaning any fun you ever derived from playing will be meaningless from then on. And, essentially, declaring a 'Win' is effectively admitting defeat, because you're saying that you need to cheat to beat the game. And third of all, only attention whores and people with ego problems declare a 'Win' it just makes you look like a self-important douche.
** I know a really pretentious cow who insisted that she won the game. Every time she caught me losing the game, she'd be really smug, saying that she's won the game. How did she "win"? She apparently read an e-mail that made her exept from losing, meaning that she'd won. Wait, just...[[FlatWhat what.]] And she wouldn't listen to me when I told her "YOU CAN'T WIN THE GAME, BITCH."
** The game is UnwinnableByDesign. It's inevitable that people will TakeAThirdOption.
** I always find this attitude amusing. Particularly since much of the meme is [[{{Troll}} a deliberate attempt to upset or confuse other parties]]. Thus, when someone finds a way to LogicBomb the meme and win, one response is to, well, get upset and confused. In other words, the trolls get trolled. If nothing else, that feels like a big win, regardless of whether or not you believe anyone can, in fact, win The Game. It also results in [[RageQuit Rage Quits]] on said person trying to invoke the meme. To quote ''TheIncredibleHercules'', when presented with an un-winnable situation, change the rules of the game.
** People who take the game way too seriously, to the point where they get upset at things like people "winning" the game, annoy me. Seriously, it's just an Internet meme. ''Get over yourselves.''
* What the Hell is The Game anyway? Seriously, I have absolutely no idea what people are talking about when they mention it.
** You do know this is a wiki, right? That we have a section not called ItJustBugsMe, right? In other words, click the little i on the top of this page.
** That act isn't going to work. If you know to avoid the page, you've lost already.
* Any one knows that there ''is'' a show called "the game"? What if someone want's to write an article on ''that''?
** Use the Series namespace.
* If you read this page, you just lost. Doesn't that bug you?
** ItJustBugsMe is not for things that just bugs you, it's for FridgeLogic.
* Aren't games supposed to be... y'know... fun?
** The Game can be fun, if you play it right. It's probably most fun for people who don't have a lot of people trying to intentionally make them lose. It probably can get tiresome to have people always telling you that you lost the Game.
** And then there are people like this troper's sister, whose version involves shouting "I LOST THE GAME". This troper tends to pull it out when annoyed.
** Of course, there will always be that pissy LiteralMinded jerk who overdoes Rule 3. I tried explaining Rule 3 to her, but she just said the Game was stupid because Rule 3 would force you to say "I lost the Game" forever since every time you say that, you lose the Game. Thus, the 30-minute grace period was formed.
* Are you guys seriously still playing The Game? I beat it YEARS ago. That water level was hard, and I hated the final boss's spike move, but it wasn't really worth all the hype. You want hard? Try the sequel. I've been stuck on the mansion level for about a year now! I've lost THAT game plenty of times, but The Game is really just boring. A little hard here and there, but as long as you don't pick the red guy it's not difficult at all. The Game practically throws continues at you!
** I thought the fireball attack was more annoying than the spike, but yeah, I'm with you on this one. If you really need help, XKCD hid a cheat in one of their comics.
** Are you kidding? I got past the mansion level in ten minutes! I had a lot more trouble with the underground area. If you want OneHundredPercentCompletion, you need to actually [[GottaCatchEmAll collect all seven]] {{Unobtanium}} Crystals ''and'' beat the [[EarthBound Diseased Mouse]] [[DoomyDoomsOfDoom of Doom]] without losing a ''single life''.
** I'm having a little trouble with the first temple, all those GodDamnBats, and the DemonicSpiders at the end of it always jump me before i can manage to heal. I'm the [[FullContactMagic Full Contact Mage]] guy in robes with the Blackbelt on them, any tips to get?
** Sincerely, the PlatformHell that's the sky level finally made me give up. By now, I'm wondering what would be the most spectacular way of losing the game... you know, going with a bang and all.
* If you accept witches, you lose the game. If you lose the game, you will think about losing the Game, and will thus lose the Game. Why you do this to me, [[UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Umineko]]?
* The secret is hinted at in TheMatrix - there is no Game.
** 3 heroes and one of them is called Trinity, I don't think so.
* If I always carry the [[{{Yu-Gi-Oh}} five pieces of Exodia]] in my hand, do I still lose The Game?
** I'm afraid so. Exodia only helps you with Duels. On the other hand, keep that trick handy in case you are ever challenged to pistols at dawn.
*** But if you carry around a [[http://magiccards.info/10e/en/339.html Platinum Angel]] with you at all times...
* As someone who can hear about The Game, conclude it's kinda funny, and forget about it, I find it jarring that so many people can't get it out of their heads without outside assistance from XKCD and the like. I'd like to think my brain alignment or whatnot isn't completely unique. Oh well.
* If you [[InvokedTrope make someone lose the game]], then you'd have to have been thinking about it. Therefore, wouldn't that mean that by making someone else lose the game you would also lose the game. And in that case, wouldn't that mean that you wouldn't be able to force someone to lose, then, rendering it an entirely pointless waste of thinking about it?
** I don't get what you mean with not being able to get others to lose the game, it's quite easy just yell out "I lost the game."
*** I have friends (well, ''a'' friend) who somehow believe they can announce "I just lost the game" and that by doing so, ''they'' don't lose, but ''you'' do. That. Is. Not. How. It. Works.
** But what if you didn't know what the game was?
* There is but one way to win: by having everyone on the planet play at once.
* The only way to win the game is to make the Queen, the President of the United States or Chuck Norris lose The Game. Especially Chuck Norris, because he's the Ultimate Badass who defies logic.
** You forgot The Pope. And it has to be the Queen of England.
** As long as one person has a Platinum Angel, it is impossible for anyone else to win The Game. And if more than one person has one, then nobody can win. "You cannot lose the game and your opponents cannot win the game."
** "In order to win The Game, you have to beat me, [[Doom John Romero]]." <-- That's how to beat [[The Game]]!
*** Yes, but the only way to make someone lose The Game is to lose yourself. How can we get around that?
* You know what bugs me? That the article for The Game is about ten times the size of the one for Film/TheGame.
* I saw the XKCD strip before I learned about The Game. What happens?
** [[BeyondTheImpossible Your game ended in a draw]].
* The Game [[PetPeeveTrope just bugs me]], it's one of the few [[MemeticMutation Memes]] I genuinely hate. Partially just because I think it's kinda stupid and is kinda overexposed, but the REAL problem lies with its very first rule, that as soon as you find out about it, you're playing it and you don't get to stop. That pisses me off! No game should EVER, '''EVER''' force ''anyone'' to play it! If someone doesn't want to play your dumb game, you let them, simple as that! [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking It even violates two of my personal]] [[ObstructiveCodeOfConduct Prime Directives]]! Anyway, rant over...
** I guess some people just aren't tough enough to take The Game...
** Actually, in the version of The Game I learned, the first rule is "Everyone is playing the game, but some of them don't know it." You've been playing your whole life. If you had a problem with the rules, you should have complained before you started playing.
* The fact that people make a big deal about it. I don't give a rip about the game. Its a silly thing that image board junkies play in their spare time. The only time I ever consciously 'lose' the game is when some idiot decides to go "LOLZ! YOU LOST THE GAME DORK!" like its supposed to mean anything. It doesn't. And the fact that people get perverse pleasure out of making people 'lose the game' is sad. Actually, what is more sad are the people that care if they 'lose'.
** I wouldn't say anyone makes a big deal about it. Sure some people react a little more and think more deeply about it than The Game is worth, but I don't think that counts as a big deal.
* Anyone who starts to play The Game has already lost it by the time they hear the second rule because the first rule is that you are playing the game and the second one is that you can't recall the game or you lose. In order to understand the second rule in relation to the first one, you HAVE to recall the game on some level. Therefore, you have NOT "just lost the game" in the middle of science class; you lost a long time ago, buddy.
* Have you ever noticed how people never seem to mind if they lose because something reminds them of The Game? They almost seem to enjoy it. But if they lose because another person announced that they lost, suddenly it's "Agh dagnabbit, you made me lose The Game!"
** That's because its like being trolled
* ... so, uh. I just lost The Game. Anyone else, huh?
* What I don't understand is that if there is no winning condition, what is losing compared with? if you can't win, losing is meaningless'
* It seems to me that the moment you start trying to play The Game, you've already lost, or are going to lose very quickly. You don't even get to build an [[DwarfFortress awesome fortress]] before it inevitably happens. Is The Game [[DeconstructionGame Steamshovel Harry]] or [[http://koti.mbnet.fi/erkkavir/sevenminutes.php Seven Minutes]]?
* GAME OVER
** Continue? Y/N
* OK! LETS MAKE A NEW RULE. If you WIN The Game, you are to be awarded an official "I Won The Game" T-shirt upon the date of your death. You won't know if you have won the game at the time, but that means that you have won. If there is an afterlife, you have still won because now you possess the power to voluntarily block out all reference to The Game. God knows if you cheat though, so if you think of The Game on your deathbed, you damn well know what your last words are, so you better say it like you mean it, morphine, excruciating pain or otherwise.
* The Game is merely just a mental illusion; an allegory perhaps to reverse psychology, the only way to truly win is to deceive your opponent into even thinking about it as per stated in earlier points, however this also doubles as a contradiction as you are subconsciously mentioning it; therefore creating a stalemate in which both parties lose. As [[WarGames Joshua]] said; the only way to win is not to play. So in other words, those who even created this meme are the the first and even the greatest losers as they were the ones who conceived this experiment in deception. Even our posts mentioning this whole thing makes us lose.

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* The Game [[PetPeeveTrope just bugs me]], it's one of the few [[MemeticMutation Memes]] I genuinely hate. Partially just because I think it's kinda stupid and is kinda overexposed, but the REAL problem lies with its very first rule, that as soon as you find out about it, you're playing it and you don't get to stop. That pisses me off! No game should EVER, '''EVER''' force ''anyone'' to play it! If someone doesn't want to play your dumb game, you let them, simple as that! [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking It even violates two of my personal]] {{Prime Directive}}s! Anyway, rant over...