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** It's because most people have only seen the movies, which thanks to budget and special effects limitations never go anywhere near this level of power, (which they probably would have otherwise) so people think Starkiller is OPed. Those who have gone into the EU deeply enough will recognize that what Starkiller does is pretty much par for the course from what Force Users often do, even tame in some ways, and even if this wasn't the case all other Force Users in TFU series are pretty much the same. So it isn't so much that Starkiller is overpowered, it's that the EU and TFU series in particular in general is overpowered.

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** It's because most people have only seen the movies, which thanks to budget and special effects limitations never go anywhere near this level of power, (which they probably would have otherwise) so people think Starkiller is OPed.[=OPed=]. Those who have gone into the EU deeply enough will recognize that what Starkiller does is pretty much par for the course from what Force Users often do, even tame in some ways, and even if this wasn't the case all other Force Users in TFU series are pretty much the same. So it isn't so much that Starkiller is overpowered, it's that the EU and TFU series in particular in general is overpowered.
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*** There's also StoryAndGameplaySegregation to consider. The canon policy at the time was that, while a video game's ''story'' may be canon, the ''game mechanics'' are not. So [[VideoGame/DarkForces Kyle Katarn]] did steal the Death Star plans and went on to stop the Empire's Dark Trooper project, he didn't do so with a personal shield generator that let him take a zillion blaster shots to the face and not notice, and despite all the games that give bog-standard Imperial TIE Fighters shields and/or missile launchers for balance purposes, those ships never had those systems canonically. The developers of both games flat-out stated that the level of Force use seen in the films is canon, and the game ramps it up well past [[UpToEleven eleven]] in the interests of RuleOfCool and SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, and "kicking someone's ass with the Force."

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*** There's also StoryAndGameplaySegregation to consider. The canon policy at the time was that, while a video game's ''story'' may be canon, the ''game mechanics'' are not. So [[VideoGame/DarkForces Kyle Katarn]] did steal the Death Star plans and went on to stop the Empire's Dark Trooper project, he didn't do so with a personal shield generator that let him take a zillion blaster shots to the face and not notice, and despite all the games that give bog-standard Imperial TIE Fighters shields and/or missile launchers for balance purposes, those ships never had those systems canonically. The developers of both games flat-out stated that the level of Force use seen in the films is canon, and the game ramps it up well past [[UpToEleven eleven]] eleven in the interests of RuleOfCool and SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, and "kicking someone's ass with the Force."
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* How come Starkiller doesn't recognize one of the most famous Jedi Masters in recent history? Not sure about the game, but the first novelization claims that part of Starkiller's training involved learning about all the deceased and possibly surviving Jedi, including their appearance and lightsaber style. He certainly recognized their "robot" forms in the fake Jedi Temple on Raxus Prime when fighting Kazdan Paratus. Yoda's species isn't exactly common in the galaxy, so finding an elderly member of it on a remote planet that is supposed to lack intelligent life should be suspect, especially since the fact that Yoda did not die at the end of the Clone Wars is not a secret.

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* How come Starkiller doesn't recognize one of the most famous Jedi Masters in recent history? Not sure about the game, but the first novelization claims that part of Starkiller's training involved learning about all the deceased and possibly surviving Jedi, including their appearance and lightsaber style. He certainly recognized their "robot" forms in the fake Jedi Temple on Raxus Prime when fighting Kazdan Paratus. Yoda's species isn't exactly common in the galaxy, so finding an elderly member of it on a remote planet that is supposed to lack intelligent life should be suspect, especially since the fact that Yoda did not die at the end of the Clone Wars is not a secret.secret.
** One, Starkiller II isn't necessarily the original (though he likely is), and thus didn't get the same training. Two, he may recognize it, but simply not care enough to bring it up, as it's not relevant. Three, bear in mind that his memory and overall mental state are, to put it lightly, a mess. He's barely able to recall how to use some of his powers (thus the painful flashbacks before recalling things like Saber Throw). He may have recognized Yoda if he was whole, but as he is, that info may be missing.
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** Two points here. Ome, Starkiller didn't learn to use them in the conventional sense. He was programmed to use them, presumably to improve his killing potential (two blades=double the close in lethality, especially with lightsabers. Two, the series is somewhat meant as a power trip compared to others
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*** Minor point, but Force Lightning doesn't require EVIL. It requires ANGER. Plo Koon tapped into it by focusing on his anger at evil and injustice. And if there's one thing Galen Marek has in SPADES, it's raw, undirected anger.
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** If you don’t wanna buy the argument that any feat in Star Wars is just an extension of the “size matters not” speech, Timothy Zahn threw out the explanation that all Force Users are capable of greater showings than what you see from them on a regular basis. It’s just that doing things like Starkiller does blocks them off from the more subtle aspects of The Force, such as proper danger sense. The more powerful the Force User, the greater the feats they can pull off. So, the average Jedi during the Clone Wars couldn’t do what Starkiller did because they aren’t as powerful as him to begin with (Note that when Vader meets Starkiller he specifically states he’s stronger than his father, an adult who has actual training in the Jedi arts). Yoda could do things like that, but he chose not to.

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