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3rd Feb '18 7:13:24 AM littlebeeper
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* Help me with this. When you do the "Breaking the Seige of Kvatch", it's either made clear or implied that the Kvatch guards you see are the only ones remaining after the initial attack. So...where does Mattius manage to get two extra guards to send to Bruma later in the game when you're gathering up troops for its defense? They don't look like the civilians in the camp or the ones you rescued from the chapel. Where did these two extra guards come from?

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* Help me with this. When you do the "Breaking the Seige Siege of Kvatch", it's either made clear or implied that the Kvatch guards you see are the only ones remaining after the initial attack. So...where does Mattius manage to get two extra guards to send to Bruma later in the game when you're gathering up troops for its defense? They don't look like the civilians in the camp or the ones you rescued from the chapel. Where did these two extra guards come from?
15th Jan '18 12:30:07 PM WesternSpartan
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** It is worth noting (space compression aside) that the heirs, AND the Emperor, spent several years imprisoned by Jagar Tharn's agents during the Imperial Simulacrum. Given that there were, as recently as Morrowind's timeframe, rumors that they weren't the REAL heirs (Enman and Ebel were the only ones named in Morrowind, implying the possibility that Geldall hadn't been rescued yet or that the writers just forgot about him) and were actually Daedric imposters were rampant. Being that they're the heirs to the Empire, they can't just marry some commoner. And the nobility was dragging their feet until their True Septim Status was confirmed.
15th Jul '17 8:12:34 AM LordInsane
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*** Consistent dialogue in ''Morrowind'', backed up what little ''Oblivion'' indicates, suggests the Mages Guild does ''not'' have exclusive right to regulate individual magery. They do, however, have the authority (unless overriden by a treaty like the Armistice) to enforce Imperial laws regarding magic and maintain monopolies and licensing rights on some activities related to magic, like organised teaching, as well as enforcing Mages Guild rules for Mages Guild members. So the Guild can't go after all necromancers... but they ''can'' go after anyone teaching necromancy.
10th Jun '17 7:01:03 PM BreadBull
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* At the end of the Thieve's Guild questline, Countess Carona of Anvil yells out to [[spoiler: The Grey Fox, who is actually her husband]] that: I'll deny it to the Emperor if I have to! [[spoiler: with regards to the Grey Fox's true identity.]] Um...she ''is'' aware the Emperor's dead, right?

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** Also, maybe he just said it for dramatic purposes.
* At the end of the Thieve's Guild questline, Countess Carona of Anvil yells out to [[spoiler: The Grey Fox, who is actually her husband]] that: I'll deny it to the Emperor if I have to! [[spoiler: with regards to the Grey Fox's true identity.]] Um...she ''is'' aware the Emperor's dead, right?right?
** Force of habit. The Emperor wasn't dead for too long, and usually people will continue referring to folk they knew as if they were still alive for a while after their passing.
10th Jun '17 6:43:44 PM BreadBull
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** From Skyrim, [[spoiler: a book explaining the Scrolls claims that there are different types of Elder Scroll readers depending on how well the reader understands the Scrolls' nature. The character doesn't understand what they are, so only sees meaningless symbols. The priests have some understanding, which is why they get driven blind.]]\

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** From Skyrim, [[spoiler: a book explaining the Scrolls claims that there are different types of Elder Scroll readers depending on how well the reader understands the Scrolls' nature. The character doesn't understand what they are, so only sees meaningless symbols. The priests have some understanding, which is why they get driven blind.]]\]]


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*** Fun > Accuracy. Sometimes WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief is needed unless you want "I can't find my way through all these stupid trees and it's also lagging like hell simulator 2006".
10th Jun '17 6:29:50 PM BreadBull
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** No evidence means the guards can't do anything, even if they all suspect it.
14th Apr '17 6:51:57 AM EnchantedSwan
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* The quest, A Lonely Wanderer, doesn't make sense. [[spoiler:So what if Faelian is killed with no witnesses? Eventually someone will discover his corpse and might suspect that the Dark Brotherhood was involved.]]
18th Mar '17 6:19:29 AM finalfaw
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*** its possible that its a perception thing, I.E you are going to a deadric princes area so you expect to see a hellscape (I think one NPC in a Deadric hell realm thought it looked like a beautiful landscape) or the PC just Assumes that this place is Peryites, I assumed that the maps you look at in the menu are all drawn/wrote by the PC hence explaining the fog of war you have on all of them until you explore, he marks landmarks as he sees them on his map for convience, so Peryite sends you to a Deadric place and your guy naturally marks it down as Peryites realm.
18th Mar '17 6:03:17 AM finalfaw
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*** some of Sheogoraths' dialog states that the one you encounter in Skyrim is[[spoiler: the PC from Oblivion, and that his time as Seogorath has made him as insane as his previous incarnation.]]
20th Feb '17 2:58:39 PM Philweasel
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** It's worth noting that in Elder Scrolls Online Molag Bal does actually invade during the interregnum, though he does require a ritual involving the Dragonfires and Amulet of Kings to be performed first.
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