History Headscratchers / TheBraveLittleToaster

*** Even with that line, it's hard to tell if he's being sincere or sarcastic. In fact, that can be said for most of what he tells the newcomers. His first line, "Oh yes, Mr. St. Peters is very entertaining!" can be read as a sarcastic way of warning them, or if taken literally, show that he is (as an above Troper said) a sadistic observer. When he acts like he shows further concern for Lampy ("Sit down for a spell/you don't look too well"), he might be trying to look out for a fellow lamp who was recently injured in a storm, or he might mean it in a mocking way because Lampy's the sick looking one and likely Peter's next victim. Long story short, Hanging Lamp is either a sympathetic creepy-on-the-outside, heart-of-gold-on-the-inside character, or the most sadistic person in the movie. And it seems impossible to tell which it is.

** Toy Story does this as well. There should probably be a trope for it.

** I prefer to think that they need electricity/batteries to preform their function (toasting, vacuuming, warming), but not to move around and speak.

** The average fridge may not have much time for a social life. Toasters, lamps, and [=TVs=] only need to work when the masters feel like using them. But Mr. Fridge works 24/7.

** Simple, they chit chat with the food that's in them. Or the door is their mouth and if they open their mouths to talk, then the cold air leaves and the food spoils, which is not what the Masters want.

* Seriously, why does everyone treat Elmo St. Peters as a CompleteMonster? He's a nice guy! He's only a villain from the appliances' point of view. Sure, he does kind of rip off that one customer (that was ''not'' a new blender), but he's just doing his job. He's not sadistic like [[ToyStory Sid]] and clearly has no idea that the junk he's ripping apart is alive.

** Some kids do play with vacuum cleaners. I remember playing with one as a kid, pretending it was a monster or a big cat. It's possible Rob did that, or, like the above said, rode on it (maybe pretending it was a car?).

** [[ToyStory An incinerator?]]

** Indeed, it is a lamp, as can be seen later in the song when she shines light onto lampy. It is simply a very modernistic standing lamp.

Those big bulky "car phones" came out sometime in the 90's I think. But in 1987? Home phones were as cutting edge as it got.

* Is this film still considered a Disney film? The main page lists it as an example of AllAnimationIsDisney to emphasize it was only distributed by said company yet I still find it listed under Disney on many sites.

** [[ToyStory An incinerator?]]

** Well, in the book he is much more considered the "villian". His description comes off as much more coarse; he doesn't even get a ''name'' for heaven's sake. He's basically just called a "pirate" and it's for the one reason that ''he took appliances that did not belong to him!'' Talk about a warped point of view.

** Well, in the book he is much more considered the "villian", he doesn't even get a ''name'' for heaven's sake. He's basically just called a "pirate" and for the one reason is that ''he took appliances that did not belong to him!'' Talk about a warped point of view.

*** They were expensive, only useful in cities, and brick-sized.

* Why did they release ''Goes to Mars'', and '''then''' ''To The Rescue''? Why were the sequels made out of order? What purpose did this serve? It was already ten years after the first movie and they were released a year apart. At what point did the creators fail to notice "hey, maybe we should take some guys off production of ''Mars'' and have them finish ''Rescue''?"

* Why did they release ''Goes to Mars'', and '''then''' ''To The Rescue''? Why were the sequels made out of order? What purpose did this serve? It was already ten years after the first movie and they were released a year apart. At what point did the creators fail to notice "hey, maybe we should take some guys off production of ''Mars'' and have them finish ''Rescue''?

* On this subject, poor poor Elmo St. Peters. He seems like a very friendly guy, just making his living as a mechanic. He even cared enough about his dog Quadruped to teach him to buckle his seatbelt. And he has no idea that his appliances are actually alive, and that whenever he removes the motor from a blender, they are essentially watching their friend get his heart ripped out. It's probably best that Elmo thinks there was a ghost in his shop and attribute his now missing appliances to that, than to know the truth.

* That Peter Lorre lamp didn't get to escape with the others, durring the jailbreak at Elmo St. Peter's. While the fridge, fan, and tape player waddled down the street, the hanging lamp was nowhere to be seen. True, he was attatched to the ceiling and there was probably nothing they could do for him. But they could at least have said goodbye, and thanked him for donating his bulb to Lampy.

*** Even with that line, it's hard to tell if he's being sincere or sarcastic. In fact, that can be said for most of what he tells the newcommers. His first line, "Oh yes, Mr. St. Peters is very entertaining!" can be read as a sarcastic way of warning them, or if taken litteraly, show that he is (as an above Troper said) a sadistic observer. When he acts like he shows further concern for Lampy ("Sit down for a spell/you don't look too well"), he might be trying to look out for a fellow lamp who was recently injured in a storm, or he might mean it in a mocking way because Lampy's the sick looking one and likely Peter's next victim. Long story short, Hanging Lamp is either a sympathetic creepy-on-the-outside, heart-of-gold-on-the-inside character, or the most sadistic person in the movie. And it seems impossible to tell which it is.

* Why couldn't the appliances at Elmo St. Peter's escape before? When Lampy asks how to escape, they laugh like they think it's impossible. But once Mr. St. Peters is unconsious, the refrigorator breaks down the wall with no trouble. Why couldn't they just do that while Peters was out running errands or something?

** Perhaps electricity is like food to them; they don't have to be taking it in all the time in order to function, but they need to take in a ceratin amount every once in a while, or else just run out of energy.

*** They were jealous that Rob wanted to take Toaster and the gang with him to college rather than them. From what we hear in the beginning of the story and the conversations b/t Rob, his mom and his girlfriend, the old cottage was just a summer home that Rob and his family visited when he was a little boy while they resided in the city so Rob probably spent what was most a few months in total with Toaster and the gang and almost two decades with the city appliances. Think about it. the city appliances have probably been serving him faithfully for all of his life, he's going off to college, he probably wont be coming back and he decides that the objects that he's going to take with him arent the modern advanced appliances he's grown up amongst but a couple of old objects that he hasnt seen or used in years. Now if I were one of those appliances i'd probably been upset that my master would prefer to take a couple of relics that i'd never seen before over myself who'd been with him longer. Take a look at the table lamp's face when he thinks he's going to be accompanying his beloved master to college only to be dejected when Rob says he's not going to be taking any of his mom's stuff while they were useless.

** He may be machinery operated to work "on its own." Remember, Air Conditioner is programed by humans to work without them operating him, yet he seems to do his job consiously. So, the same is probably true for the Giant Magnet/Crane. The humans programed him to do the job without them around, but he can consiously decide what he wants to pick up and dump on the conveor belt. Why he tried to kill Rob is another question entirely...

* Seriously, why does everyone treat Elmo St. Peters as a CompleteMonster? He's a nice guy! He's only a villain from the appliences' point of view. Sure, he does kind of rip off that one customer (that was ''not'' a new blender), but he's just doing his job. He's not sadistic like [[ToyStory Sid]] and clearly has no idea that the junk he's ripping apart is alive.

** Maybe...if Rob was small enough, he could've rode on Kirby when the parents were cleaning. Or when his parents weren't cleaning, just to play.

* Okay, this has been bothering me for the past week. The appliances in Rob's apartment are supposed to be brandy-new special cutting edge technology... WHY IS THERE A HOME PHONE? Most of the other stuff in there isn't exactly new, either: The sewing machine, differently styled lamp, speakers, two-part vacuum, blender... This is the late 80's we're talking about. The home phone bothers me the most. Again, just... why?

* In the second movie when Wittgenstein states that he's been in the basement for 4,999,450,852,312 nanoseconds as though it were a long time but in more conventional time measurements that translates into just over an hour.

* WTF was Elmo doing out in the middle of the forest looking for old appliances? That part just screamed "plot convenience!!!".

* Seriously, why does everyone treat Elmo St. Peters as a CompleteMonster? He's a nice guy! He's only a villain from the appliences' point of view. Sure, he does kind of rip off that one customer (that was ''not'' a new blender), but he's just doing his job. He's not sadistic like [[ToyStory Sid]] and clearly has no idea that the junk he's ripping apart is alive.