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* That's a primary complaint about the series, and actually undermines its attempt to be a proper {{Deconstruction}}. See ShallowParody over in YMMV.
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*** To be fair, it's possible that the Boys dealt with some supervillains offscreen.
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*** Good point. Since The Boys seem to be more like this world's equivalent of the Suicide Squad in terms of super-powered off-the-books strike teams that are morally ambiguous and are sent in to take down extraordinary threats, perhaps the Boys may have other off-screen members unknown to the original team dealing with both super heroes and super villains alike?
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[[WMG: Where are the kill switches?]]
It seems like if you’re going to throw ethics out the window, might as well install a safe-guard. Its implied if Homelander goes rogue, there’s nothing really stopping him. In fact, there’s no really understood way to kill them. It makes sense to have a fall back plan if that happens.
It seems like if you’re going to throw ethics out the window, might as well install a safe-guard. Its implied if Homelander goes rogue, there’s nothing really stopping him. In fact, there’s no really understood way to kill them. It makes sense to have a fall back plan if that happens.
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[[WMG: Where are the real super heroes?]]
If you’re a male with powers, you are definitely evil. If you’re female, you’re somewhere on the cynicism slope.
There aren’t any heroes that went full messiah complex? While its arguable “power corrupts absolutely” there isn’t really a spectrum.
If you’re a male with powers, you are definitely evil. If you’re female, you’re somewhere on the cynicism slope.
There aren’t any heroes that went full messiah complex? While its arguable “power corrupts absolutely” there isn’t really a spectrum.
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*** Not all people with powers are going to be treated with equal prestige, and not all personalities can be bought off, especially in a universe that provides more than enough reasons for someone to become a zealous extremist.
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** There’s no way to guarantee ‘complete’ coverage for these cases, and the true super villains are smart enough to keep their heads down until they can kill any mercenary teams sent after them.
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* Also, VA's handling of the G-Men implies that ''actual'' supervillains are swiftly and quietly removed by their highly trained mercenaries.
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* The superheroes are also visible, individual opponents that can be faced and fought directly. A corporation is a fragmented, distributed intelligence, much harder to effectively fight in that fashion. It's hard to take down a corporation when you can't use the law against it, because the politicians who ''make'' the laws have been bought off and the corporation has a legion of lawyers on hand. What actually happens in the course of the series may not have been Butcher's conscious plan, but knocking Vought-American's financial legs out from under it might well have been the only way to "kill the beast" after all.
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** There's a video on Youtube of Barack Obama without his teleprompter. The man has a hard time stringing together a coherent sentence of three words.
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* One of the points that's driven home repeatedly throughout the book is that while Vought-American provides infrastructure and publicity for its superheroes, it does ''not'' provide very much if anything else, and generally tries to stun its "clients" into submission with drugs and vice. It's also repeatedly stated that most of the "villains" in this universe are just other rogue supers, or made up out of whole cloth as an attempt to cover up an indiscretion. It's not simply that the "superheroes" are untrained, but that they're soft, often intoxicated, and usually totally inexperienced in a fight. They're celebrities and media figures, not actual combatants.
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[[WMG: The Boys' combat competence]]
All right, yes, all the Boys were given a Compound V injection to grant superhuman strength, and much is made that the 'supes' are universally untrained and are basically just flailing around faking fighting trusting their powers will compensate, while the Boys (save Hughie, who learns on the job) are not only trained but lean heavily towards fighting dirty, but the way Butcher's group just often rips through 'Supes' without breaking a sweat, immediately closing in and inflicting incredibly painful strikes that break limbs, smash in faces, and so on, is still odd. It seems almost like they've got a dose of inhuman speed on top of inhuman strength, unless that was just to really drive home just how damn BAD 'Supes' are if an actual fight breaks out.[[note]]Ennis indulging in his superhero dislike also probably plays a role. Ennis did a small side story for some reason or another which had the Boys maiming what was clearly supposed to be some of DC's premier superheroes, including the Female ripping Wonder Woman's face off with seeming ease. One can probably safely assume that in a proper, neutral fight, that wouldn't happen. Hell, one could argue that in a straight, proper fight assessing both side's capabilities, Wonder Woman could beat the whole Boys team if not aided by writer fiat and preference.[[/note]]
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** [[spoiler:Because Black Noir ultimately ''wants'' the Boys to continue their work of exposing supes, in order for Noir to get material to gaslight the Homelander with, to push the Homelander further out on the edge, in order to get Vaught to give the order to grease the Homelander. ]]
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** IIRC in the "Super-Orgy" arc, a couple of heroes actually discuss with glee how they were originally villains until they realised that heroes could do anything that villains could do, with the added bonus that everyone loves them and is willing to look the other way for them.
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** Maybe the supervillains are even more messed up then the heroes?
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* Why be a supervillain when you can be a corporate sponsored hero and get away with anything and make money anyway?
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**Also in the final issues it's revealed that they only had around a 60% success rate with Compound V. That would seem to imply that growing such clones would be cost prohibitive with a lot of wasted material. Not that that sort of thing is a problem for VA. "Bad product" indeed.
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** Just because Black Noir is completely insane, does not mean he's stupid. His plot to gaslight the Homelander took a lot of time, and would have required careful planning and execution of individual parts, even if the plan itself might have been more of a XanatosSpeedChess plan than anything else. Point is, he was created to kill the Homelander, and killing/maiming Queen Meave would definitely be a roadblock to that end, a roadblock he was unwilling to deal with. He would never be able to hide that in the same way he did his other victims. He is probably created to be completely loyal, which is why he can't get his mind off the task, driving him nuts. But he is still focused on his sole reason for living.
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[[spoiler:If Black Noir is a cannibalistic CompleteMonster given to atrocities, why would he just jam his thumb in Hughie's ass under Herogasm instead of painting the tunnel red with gore as he seems to enjoy? ]]
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[[spoiler:If Black Noir is a cannibalistic CompleteMonster given to atrocities, so bad, why would he just jam his thumb in Hughie's ass under Herogasm instead of painting the tunnel red with gore as he seems to enjoy? ]]
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[[WMG: Major spoiler; why the [[spoiler: thumbs-up?]] ]]
[[spoiler:If Black Noir is a cannibalistic CompleteMonster given to atrocities, why would he just jam his thumb in Hughie's ass under Herogasm instead of painting the tunnel red with gore as he seems to enjoy? ]]
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[[WMG: Maeve and Stormfront?]]
They say that the Homelander and the Seven come from Stormfront's DNA, right? So, when Maeve and Stormfront had a relationship, it was father-daughter incest? Or what it would happen if ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} and ComicBook/{{X-23}} from X-Men had a relationship...
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** There are supervillains, but they arent the point of the story so they're only mentioned in passing, such as Teenage Kix celebrating at having put a group called the Fearsome Foursome back in Rikers. However, the level of villain YOU'RE talking about are refered to as "rogue supers" because they're pretty much just superheroes with no sense for keeping the status quo. They only show one of them, a super called Professor Banzai who was killed by Homelander. Presumably, they're relatively rare and dont get the benefit of a CardboardPrison.
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* One could argue that The Boys are this world's equivalent of a supervillain team.
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** There are supervillains, but they arent the point of the story so they're only mentioned in passing, such as Teenage Kix celebrating at having put a group called the Fearsome Foursome back in Rikers. However, the level of villain YOU'RE talking about are refered to as "rogue supers" because they're pretty much just superheroes with no sense for keeping the status quo. They only show one of them, a super called Professor Banzai who was killed by Homelander. Presumably, they're relatively rare and dont get the benefit of a CardboardPrison.
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[[WMG:Where are the supervillains?]]
Is the whole "supers fighting against evil" made up by Vought's comics and backstory division, or are there ''actual'' supervillains going around trying to TakeOverTheWorld?
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This guy just totally destroys suspension of disbelief. A borderline retard who can barely speak coherently and can't even put on a condom? That's something you'd expect in {{Preacher}}, [[BerthaInTheAttic in a locked basement]] somewhere, but absolutely not in politics.
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This guy just totally destroys suspension of disbelief. A borderline retard who can barely speak coherently and can't even put on a condom? That's something you'd expect in {{Preacher}}, ComicBook/{{Preacher}}, [[BerthaInTheAttic in a locked basement]] somewhere, but absolutely not in politics.
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*Butcher has gone completely cuckoo-banana nutcakes and simply cannot get past his hatred of enhanced supers.
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* Vic The Veep had an armed faction supporting him in the White House. The Secret Service were this close to shooting each other in the halls over the situation. Once the Boys stepped in, they did start shooting each other dead. It was Civil War writ small.
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[[WMG: Butcher's Misplaced Hate?]]
I get that Butcher hates Superheros and he has every right to. But why is he more focused on taking out Superheros and not Vought-American, who's the real cause behind literally EVERYTHING?
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* Because he's a power-mad psycho fed up with taking orders from Vought-American and wants to run the show, and is convinced (not entirely unreasonably) that basically being an Evil Superman means that no one's in a position to make him lose everything. This is pretty clearly established. Besides which, it's pretty clear that part of his coup involves settling scores with Butcher.
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* Because he's a power-mad psycho fed up with taking orders from Vought-American and wants to run the show, and is convinced (not entirely unreasonably) that basically being an Evil Superman means that no one's in a position to make him lose everything.everything if he doesn't want to. This is pretty clearly established. Besides which, it's pretty clear that part of his coup involves settling scores with Butcher.Butcher, so ultimately he clearly plans to deal with Butcher one way or another anyway.
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* Because he's a power-mad psycho fed up with taking orders from Vought-American and wants to run the show, and is convinced (not entirely unreasonably) that basically being an Evil Superman means that no one's in a position to make him lose everything. This is pretty clearly established. Besides which, it's pretty clear that part of his coup involves settling scores with Butcher.
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** Answered. She panicked and got scared. Legend talked her into putting them back.
[[WMG: Why did the Homelander decide to launch his coup d'tat?]]
He knows that doing so will get Butcher to release the photos, which will result in him and his fellow heroes loosing everything.
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[[WMG: Why did the Homelander decide to launch his coup d'tat?]]
He knows that doing so will get Butcher to release the photos, which will result in him and his fellow heroes loosing everything.
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