History Headscratchers / TeenTitans

11th Feb '16 2:24:28 AM Silverblade2
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Is it me or there's a bit of MoralDissonance involved? Cyborg deciding to leave the Team to become the leader of the Titans East is treated as a selfish decision and an act of betrayal by the rest of the Titans (We're supposed to side with them) yet earlier, in the same season, when Starfire gleefully decided to return to her home planet to marry a complete stranger, '''no one''' bat an eye (exept Robin being jealous).
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Is it me or there's a bit of MoralDissonance involved? Cyborg deciding to leave the Team to become the leader of the Titans East is treated as a selfish decision and an act of betrayal by the rest of the Titans (We're supposed to side with them) yet earlier, in the same season, when Starfire gleefully decided to return to her home planet to marry a complete stranger, '''no one''' bat an eye ''everyone''' was supportive (exept Robin being jealous).
10th Feb '16 10:12:22 AM Silverblade2
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[[WMG: Cyborg leaving the Team is season 3]]
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[[WMG: Cyborg leaving the Team is in season 3]]
10th Feb '16 10:06:42 AM Silverblade2
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* IIRC, the official explanation basically boils down to "Slade has no particular attachment to Trigon's plans (after all, he doesn't ''actually'' want the world to end, he just wants his mortal life back and Trigon can give it to him) and was basically invincible, so he wasn't taking it very seriously."
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* IIRC, the official explanation basically boils down to "Slade has no particular attachment to Trigon's plans (after all, he doesn't ''actually'' want the world to end, he just wants his mortal life back and Trigon can give it to him) and was basically invincible, so he wasn't taking it very seriously."" [[WMG: Cyborg leaving the Team is season 3]] Is it me or there's a bit of MoralDissonance involved? Cyborg deciding to leave the Team to become the leader of the Titans East is treated as a selfish decision and an act of betrayal by the rest of the Titans (We're supposed to side with them) yet earlier, in the same season, when Starfire gleefully decided to return to her home planet to marry a complete stranger, '''no one''' bat an eye (exept Robin being jealous).
24th Jan '16 3:37:13 PM MasterGhandalf
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When Slade comes back from the dead in season four, he seems to have become much snarkier than before. Although he certainly indulged in a dark sense of humor before, he spends most of the fight verbally taunting the Titans, egging them on, compared to before where he would usually only speak during a fight to make a point or try to break his target down. Was he just high off his new power and resurrection?
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When Slade comes back from the dead in season four, he seems to have become much snarkier than before. Although he certainly indulged in a dark sense of humor before, he spends most of the fight verbally taunting the Titans, egging them on, compared to before where he would usually only speak during a fight to make a point or try to break his target down. Was he just high off his new power and resurrection?resurrection? * IIRC, the official explanation basically boils down to "Slade has no particular attachment to Trigon's plans (after all, he doesn't ''actually'' want the world to end, he just wants his mortal life back and Trigon can give it to him) and was basically invincible, so he wasn't taking it very seriously."
19th Jan '16 11:49:20 AM nombretomado
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* Yeah, it is pretty obvious. Even if they never say it, there's a good chance that the guy who has Dick Grayson's Batmanesque work ethic, has Dick Grayson's love interest, goes on to become Nightwing, is in the lineup from the comics that included Dick Grayson as they went through storylines from the comics that were Graysons, wears the costume of Dick Grayson (yeah, in the comics, Tim Drake is the first to wear that costume as opposed to Dick's pantsless version, but in '90s-2000s animated series, only Dick wears green and red. Tim wears black and red.) and has a Parallel Universe counterpart whose name is Dick Grayson spelled backwards is in fact Dick Grayson. As for Batman's saying Tim/Robin was with the Titans that time in ''StaticShock'' - don't forget that in Teen Titans, Flash is Kid Flash and Speedy is younger than his Justice League appearance. So Drake will be a Titan when Dick is Nightwing and Wally West (how do we know he's TT's Kid Flash? Same actor, he was the only Kid Flash at the time of that lineup, these storylines, etc.) is the Flash - in other words, a whole lot like in current comics.
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* Yeah, it is pretty obvious. Even if they never say it, there's a good chance that the guy who has Dick Grayson's Batmanesque work ethic, has Dick Grayson's love interest, goes on to become Nightwing, is in the lineup from the comics that included Dick Grayson as they went through storylines from the comics that were Graysons, wears the costume of Dick Grayson (yeah, in the comics, Tim Drake is the first to wear that costume as opposed to Dick's pantsless version, but in '90s-2000s animated series, only Dick wears green and red. Tim wears black and red.) and has a Parallel Universe counterpart whose name is Dick Grayson spelled backwards is in fact Dick Grayson. As for Batman's saying Tim/Robin was with the Titans that time in ''StaticShock'' ''WesternAnimation/StaticShock'' - don't forget that in Teen Titans, Flash is Kid Flash and Speedy is younger than his Justice League appearance. So Drake will be a Titan when Dick is Nightwing and Wally West (how do we know he's TT's Kid Flash? Same actor, he was the only Kid Flash at the time of that lineup, these storylines, etc.) is the Flash - in other words, a whole lot like in current comics.
16th Jan '16 2:51:50 AM Anddrix
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** It's common in animation because you don't have to deal with matching a live-action person's mouth movements with the words spoken, you just animate the 'wrong' character talking along with the voice. Furthermore, it's [[ViewersAreMorons easier to tell]] what's going on if you have the helpful hint of the voices being switched; otherwise you just have what seems to be Raven and Starfire just acting weirdly.
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** It's common in animation because you don't have to deal with matching a live-action person's mouth movements with the words spoken, you just animate the 'wrong' character talking along with the voice. Furthermore, it's [[ViewersAreMorons easier to tell]] tell what's going on if you have the helpful hint of the voices being switched; otherwise you just have what seems to be Raven and Starfire just acting weirdly.
14th Jan '16 10:18:24 AM SirHandel3
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* Two things, 1 is that Otaku is a bad thing depending on the person, with the success of anime and oriental culture in other areas of the world (US, UK) over the years it's been more acceptable in Japan, even the prime minister of Japan openly admitted he was an Otaku and that it's something the country should praise and not discriminate. Second of all the problem about Otaku's was that it was deemed childish and or improper and unprofessional, meaning the biggest concern was young adult or full grown adults having a big fascination for a certain thing (anime, tech, actors, etc.) BB is a teenager, as was the girl, so maybe she was just pointing out that he was an Otaku, or calling him a insult that pretty much means geek or nerd, not a slur.
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* Two things, 1 is that Otaku is a bad thing depending on the person, with the success of anime and oriental culture in other areas of the world (US, UK) over the years it's been more acceptable in Japan, even the prime minister of Japan openly admitted he was an Otaku and that it's something the country should praise and not discriminate. Second of all the problem about Otaku's Otaku was that it was deemed childish and or improper and unprofessional, meaning the biggest concern was young adult or full grown adults having a big fascination for a certain thing (anime, tech, actors, etc.) BB is a teenager, as was the girl, so maybe she was just pointing out that he was an Otaku, or calling him a insult that pretty much means geek or nerd, not a slur.
14th Jan '16 10:01:31 AM SirHandel3
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Changed "Titan's" to "Titans'" as it's clearly meant to be in plural form.
*** Means to an end. Same means, different ends. Terra's ends were the Titan's deaths and hostile city takeover. Cyborg's ends were information gathering for evil plots and the end of the H.I.V.E. organization, but not its members. The big difference here, my friend, is the villain wanted people to die and the heroes didn't. Plus, H.I.V.E. had tried to kill the Titans before, but Terra's betrayal was unprovoked. They had accepted her and wished to help her with her powers for goodness sake.
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*** Means to an end. Same means, different ends. Terra's ends were the Titan's Titans' deaths and hostile city takeover. Cyborg's ends were information gathering for evil plots and the end of the H.I.V.E. organization, but not its members. The big difference here, my friend, is the villain wanted people to die and the heroes didn't. Plus, H.I.V.E. had tried to kill the Titans before, but Terra's betrayal was unprovoked. They had accepted her and wished to help her with her powers for goodness sake.
14th Jan '16 9:42:52 AM SirHandel3
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I can accept that none of the Titans have any secret identities, Three of Titans has obvious alien skin features, one is a cyborg, and Robin probably does not reveal his identity to protect Bruce Wayne from rumors that him being Batman. However main thing that bugs me is that we don't see much cultural effects the Titans have to their city and the world they protect. In other shows with young superheroes (I.E Danny Phantom, Static Shock, X-Men, Spectacular Spider-man, and Avatar: The Last Airbender) We see a lot of political, social, cultural effects that these superhero has afflicted on the world and its people they protect.
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I can accept that none of the Titans have any secret identities, Three of Titans has obvious alien skin features, one is a cyborg, and Robin probably does not reveal his identity to protect Bruce Wayne from rumors that of him being Batman. However the main thing that bugs me is that we don't see much cultural effects the Titans have to their city and the world they protect. In other shows with young superheroes (I.E Danny Phantom, Static Shock, X-Men, Spectacular Spider-man, and Avatar: The Last Airbender) We see a lot of political, social, cultural effects that these superhero has afflicted on the world and its people they protect.

* Are we supposed to believe that the politicians of Jump City and Steel Cities just allow superheroes teens to take care of their cities automatically and let them build a large tower looming over the city while supplying them financial support? Either that or Bruce Wayne pay the bills. The most we get is a chat room conservation with Control Freak, the people do enjoy the heroes. I always wanted to see News coverage of the Titans, politicians response, maybe companies making merchandising exploiting their likeness. The normal people of this show are just shallow background characters that needs to be saved and nothing else, similar to the Muggles of the Harry Potter universe, but at least there was a reason why Muggles were in the background since they were not even aware of wizards. What I'm essentially saying is that the Teen Titans universe is a bit too fake and shallow, not the characters themselves, but the world itself just feel hollow to me at times. I don't want an Alan Moore's version of the show, but I want something to ground the world to make a bit more believable.
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* Are we supposed to believe that the politicians of Jump City and Steel Cities just allow superheroes teens to take care of their cities automatically and let them build a large tower looming over the city while supplying them financial support? Either that or Bruce Wayne pay pays the bills. The most we get is a chat room conservation conversation with Control Freak, the Freak. The people do enjoy the heroes. I always wanted to see News coverage of the Titans, politicians response, politicians' responses, maybe companies making merchandising exploiting their likeness. The normal people of this show are just shallow background characters that needs to be saved and nothing else, similar to the Muggles of the Harry Potter universe, but at least there was a reason why Muggles were in the background since they were not even aware of wizards. What I'm essentially saying is that the Teen Titans universe is a bit too fake and shallow, not the characters themselves, but the world itself just feel feels hollow to me at times. I don't want an Alan Moore's version of the show, but I want something to ground the world to make a bit more believable.

* Maybe he didn't actually ''die'' in the explosion? It seems that that's what he writers were trying to convey. * Lets see, maybe exactly the same way he did the First time he exploded? Because he didn't physically explode, he merely vented all the energy filling him through his skin (hence the skin turning all red and weird), thus causing an explosion all around him, but not actually hurting him?
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* Maybe he didn't actually ''die'' in the explosion? It seems that that's what he the writers were trying to convey. * Lets Let's see, maybe exactly the same way he did the First first time he exploded? Because he didn't physically explode, he merely vented all the energy filling him through his skin (hence the skin turning all red and weird), thus causing an explosion all around him, but not actually hurting him?

* Well, there are a LOT of "dead" (or otherwise left in some kind of unbreakable prison) characters in that scene, including the puppet master, the dragon from Raven's book, and several other villains. In one scene you even see the Tofu alien, who was EATEN. BY CYBORG. Red Star is many way the most forgivable of returns.
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* Well, there are a LOT of "dead" (or otherwise left in some kind of unbreakable prison) characters in that scene, including the puppet master, the dragon from Raven's book, and several other villains. In one scene you even see the Tofu alien, who was EATEN. BY CYBORG. Red Star is in many way ways the most forgivable of returns.

* Yeah, it is pretty obvious. Even if they never say it, there's a good chance that the guy who has Dick Grayson's Batmanesque work ethic, has Dick Grayson's love interest, goes on to become Nightwing, is in the lineup from the comics that included Dick Grayson as they went through storylines from the comics that were Grayson's, wears the costume of Dick Grayson (yeah, in the comics, Tim Drake is the first to wear that costume as opposed to Dick's pantsless version, but in 90s-2000s animated series, only Dick wears green and red. Tim wears black and red.) and has a Parallel Universe counterpart whose name is Dick Grayson spelled backwards is in fact Dick Grayson. As for Batman's saying Tim/Robin was with the Titans that time in ''StaticShock'' - don't forget that in Teen Titans, Flash is Kid Flash and Speedy is younger than his Justice League appearance. So Drake will be a Titan when Dick is Nightwing and Wally West (how do we know he's TT's Kid Flash? Same actor, he was the only Kid Flash at the time of that lineup, these storylines, etc.) is the Flash - in other words, a whole lot like in current comics.
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* Yeah, it is pretty obvious. Even if they never say it, there's a good chance that the guy who has Dick Grayson's Batmanesque work ethic, has Dick Grayson's love interest, goes on to become Nightwing, is in the lineup from the comics that included Dick Grayson as they went through storylines from the comics that were Grayson's, Graysons, wears the costume of Dick Grayson (yeah, in the comics, Tim Drake is the first to wear that costume as opposed to Dick's pantsless version, but in 90s-2000s '90s-2000s animated series, only Dick wears green and red. Tim wears black and red.) and has a Parallel Universe counterpart whose name is Dick Grayson spelled backwards is in fact Dick Grayson. As for Batman's saying Tim/Robin was with the Titans that time in ''StaticShock'' - don't forget that in Teen Titans, Flash is Kid Flash and Speedy is younger than his Justice League appearance. So Drake will be a Titan when Dick is Nightwing and Wally West (how do we know he's TT's Kid Flash? Same actor, he was the only Kid Flash at the time of that lineup, these storylines, etc.) is the Flash - in other words, a whole lot like in current comics.
14th Jan '16 9:37:02 AM SirHandel3
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I can accept that none of the Titans have any secret identities, Three of Titans has obvious alien skin features, one is a cyborg, and Robin probably does not reveal his identity to protect Bruce Wayne from rumors that him being Batman. However main thing that bugs me is that we don't see much cultural effects the Titans have to their city and the world they protect. In other shows with young superheroes (I.E Danny Phantom, Static Shock, X-Men, Spectacular Spider-man, and Avatar: The Last Airbender) We see a lot of political, social, cultural effects that these superhero has afflicted on the world and it's people they protect. * If you'll take a close look at most episodes of the Teen Titans animated series, you hardly ever see any civilians at all. It's hardly surprising that the team's actions have few consequences when, unless its to punctuate a joke or essential to the plot, Jump City often seems like it's uninhabited.
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I can accept that none of the Titans have any secret identities, Three of Titans has obvious alien skin features, one is a cyborg, and Robin probably does not reveal his identity to protect Bruce Wayne from rumors that him being Batman. However main thing that bugs me is that we don't see much cultural effects the Titans have to their city and the world they protect. In other shows with young superheroes (I.E Danny Phantom, Static Shock, X-Men, Spectacular Spider-man, and Avatar: The Last Airbender) We see a lot of political, social, cultural effects that these superhero has afflicted on the world and it's its people they protect. * If you'll take a close look at most episodes of the Teen Titans animated series, you hardly ever see any civilians at all. It's hardly surprising that the team's actions have few consequences when, unless its it's to punctuate a joke or essential to the plot, Jump City often seems like it's uninhabited.
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