History Headscratchers / TalesOfTheAbyss

16th Apr '17 7:30:56 AM DivineFlame100
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*** However, Auldrant's diameter is smaller than Earth and even Venus, which would bring a whole new set of problems regarding surface gravity and atmospheric pressure. Auldrant's atmosphere is stated to be 150 km high, which with the descent of the Outer Lands, adds an additional 30 km to the atmosphere. However a planet as small as Auldrant should not be able to hold onto a thick Earth-like atmosphere as described on the diagram because of the weaker surface gravity, and therefore would make Auldrant's atmosphere less thick and dense than it actually is. In addition, the characters in the game should also weigh less as a result, and their bodies would have to be specifically adapted to live in this environment. In order for Auldrant to have Earth gravity and an Earth-like atmosphere, the planet would have to be more massive and more dense in contrast to its diameter, which is where things start to go into the realm of speculation at this point because details of Auldrant's mass and density are never revealed. For all we know, Auldrant could be Earth-like despite its small size because [[AWizardDidIt Lorelei Did It]].

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*** However, Auldrant's diameter is smaller than Earth and even Venus, which would bring a whole new set of problems regarding surface gravity and atmospheric pressure. Auldrant's atmosphere is stated to be 150 km high, which with the descent of the Outer Lands, adds an additional 30 km to the atmosphere. However a planet as small as Auldrant should not be able to hold onto a thick Earth-like atmosphere as described on the diagram because of the weaker surface gravity, and therefore would make Auldrant's atmosphere less thick and less dense than it actually is. In addition, the characters in the game should also weigh less as a result, and their bodies would have to be specifically adapted to live in this environment. In order for Auldrant to have Earth gravity and an Earth-like atmosphere, the planet would have to be more massive and more dense in contrast to its diameter, which is where things start to go into the realm of speculation at this point because details of Auldrant's mass and density are never revealed. For all we know, Auldrant could be Earth-like despite its small size because [[AWizardDidIt Lorelei Did It]].
16th Apr '17 7:28:05 AM DivineFlame100
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*** However, Auldrant's diameter is smaller than Earth and even Venus, which would bring a whole new set of problems regarding surface gravity and atmospheric pressure. Auldrant's atmosphere is stated to be 150 km high, which with the descent of the Outer Lands, adds an additional 30 km to the atmosphere. However a planet as small as Auldrant should not be able to hold onto a thick Earth-like atmosphere because of the weaker surface gravity, and therefore would make Auldrant's atmosphere less thick and dense than it actually is. In addition, the characters in the game should also weigh less as a result, and their bodies would have to be specifically adapted to live in this environment. In order for Auldrant to have Earth gravity and an Earth-like atmosphere, the planet would have to be more massive and more dense in contrast to its diameter, which is where things start to go into the realm of speculation at this point because details of Auldrant's mass and density are never revealed. For all we know, Auldrant could be Earth-like despite its small size because [[AWizardDidIt Lorelei Did It]].

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*** However, Auldrant's diameter is smaller than Earth and even Venus, which would bring a whole new set of problems regarding surface gravity and atmospheric pressure. Auldrant's atmosphere is stated to be 150 km high, which with the descent of the Outer Lands, adds an additional 30 km to the atmosphere. However a planet as small as Auldrant should not be able to hold onto a thick Earth-like atmosphere as described on the diagram because of the weaker surface gravity, and therefore would make Auldrant's atmosphere less thick and dense than it actually is. In addition, the characters in the game should also weigh less as a result, and their bodies would have to be specifically adapted to live in this environment. In order for Auldrant to have Earth gravity and an Earth-like atmosphere, the planet would have to be more massive and more dense in contrast to its diameter, which is where things start to go into the realm of speculation at this point because details of Auldrant's mass and density are never revealed. For all we know, Auldrant could be Earth-like despite its small size because [[AWizardDidIt Lorelei Did It]].
16th Apr '17 7:02:25 AM DivineFlame100
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*** However, Auldrant's diameter is smaller than Earth and even Venus, which would bring a whole new set of problems regarding surface gravity and atmospheric pressure. Auldrant's atmosphere is stated to be 150 km high, which with the descent of the Outer Lands, adds an additional 30 km to the atmosphere. However a planet as small as Auldrant should not be able to hold onto a thick Earth-like atmosphere because of the weaker surface gravity, and therefore would make Auldrant's atmosphere less thick and dense than it actually is. In addition, the characters in the game should also weigh less as a result, and their bodies would have to be specifically adapted to live in this environment. In order for Auldrant to have Earth gravity and an Earth-like atmosphere, the planet would have to be more massive and more dense in contrast to its diameter, which is where things start to go into the realm of speculation at this point because details of Auldrant's mass and density are never revealed. For all we know, Auldrant could be Earth-like despite its small size because [[AWizardDidIt Lorelei Did It]].
15th Apr '17 9:39:43 PM DivineFlame100
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** An official [[http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/Auldrant?file=Auldrant_Structural_Diagram.png structural diagram]] of Auldrant uploaded on TheOtherWiki reveals that the diameter of Auldrant is 11,470 km (For reference, Earth's diameter is 12,742 km), and the diagram reveals that the distance between the Outer Lands and the Qliphoth is 30,000 m, which is only 30 km. So in other words, when the Outer Lands descend back down into the Qliphoth, the overall diameter of Auldrant would only decrease by 30 km, making its total diameter by post-Absortion Gate just 11,440 km. The geography wouldn't really change much except for some slight squeezing of the crust, making it slightly more compact and prone to earthquakes.

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** An official [[http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/Auldrant?file=Auldrant_Structural_Diagram.png structural diagram]] of Auldrant uploaded on TheOtherWiki reveals that the diameter of Auldrant is 11,470 km (For reference, Earth's diameter is 12,742 km), and the diagram reveals that the distance between the Outer Lands and the Qliphoth is 30,000 m, which is only 30 km. So in other words, when the Outer Lands descend back down into the Qliphoth, the overall diameter of Auldrant would only decrease by 30 km, making its total diameter by post-Absortion post-Absorption Gate just 11,440 km. The geography wouldn't really change much except for some slight squeezing of the crust, making it slightly more compact and prone to earthquakes.
15th Apr '17 9:36:11 PM DivineFlame100
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** An official [[http://aselia.wikia.com/wiki/Auldrant?file=Auldrant_Structural_Diagram.png structural diagram]] of Auldrant uploaded on TheOtherWiki reveals that the diameter of Auldrant is 11,470 km (For reference, Earth's diameter is 12,742 km), and the diagram reveals that the distance between the Outer Lands and the Qliphoth is 30,000 m, which is only 30 km. So in other words, when the Outer Lands descend back down into the Qliphoth, the overall diameter of Auldrant would only decrease by 30 km, making its total diameter by post-Absortion Gate just 11,440 km. The geography wouldn't really change much except for some slight squeezing of the crust, making it slightly more compact and prone to earthquakes.
21st Feb '17 11:28:31 PM Ramona122003
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** The big different here is that Luke is technically seven years old trapped in a teenager's body. He was also spoiled most of his life by those around him, something that Guy lampshade when he said that they all played a part in Luke's development since he was a newborn when they got to him. So Luke clinging to Van, the one person who seems to care about him and treat him with any type of respect, is understandable. Especially since his 'friends' gave no reason or evidence to distrust him. Tear tried to kill Van and refused to explained why when repeatedly asked. Not to mention the entire group was keeping secrets from Luke, yet they acted new when Luke kept them in the dark about his plans. Luke also acted on the basic of helping people, even if it was for a selfish end. Anise, on the other hand, should have known better and her actions repeatedly got people hurt or killed with it all ending in Ion's death. And, as mentioned above, her parents could have been saved several times by the party if Anise bothered to explained what was happening. Her situation is also not the same as Zelos since he skillfully played all sides and it worked out for the best since he had information that helped the party several times. Zelos' actions also didn't lead to anyone dying. At worst, it led to a kidnapping. Even then, you have the option to kill Zelos even if it is the non-canon ending.
22nd Oct '16 2:24:08 PM esq263
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*** Although, just because Van orchestrated the attack on the Tartarus doesn't mean Asch couldn't have modified the orders to suit his own purposes before delivering them to the other God-Generals.
29th May '16 3:15:32 PM icelandicc
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*** First of all, it's stated very early in the game (by Ramdas) that Luke would have come of age by the time he turned twenty. Second, Luke is only ''mentally'' seven years old. He's still physically seventeen (or nineteen at point in time in question), and I cannot think of a reason why they'd wait until Luke is ''mentally'' 18 for his coming-of-age ceremony. After all, I think most of the characters agree that Luke has matured immensely since the beginning of the game; specifically Guy, as stated if you talk to him in the cathedral in Daath when [[spoiler:Luke is thinking over whether or not he wants to sacrifice his life to neutralize the miasma]].

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*** First of all, it's stated very early in the game (by Ramdas) that Luke would have come of age by the time he turned twenty. This makes sense since twenty is also the coming-of-age in Japan, and as such is a much more important age there than eighteen. Second, Luke is only ''mentally'' seven years old. He's still physically seventeen (or nineteen at point in time in question), and I cannot think of a reason why they'd wait until Luke is ''mentally'' 18 eighteen for his coming-of-age ceremony. After all, I think most of the characters agree that Luke has matured immensely since the beginning of the game; specifically Guy, as stated Guy. He even mentions it directly if you talk to him in the cathedral in Daath when [[spoiler:Luke is thinking over whether or not he wants to sacrifice his life to neutralize the miasma]].
29th May '16 2:16:17 PM icelandicc
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***First of all, it's stated very early in the game (by Ramdas) that Luke would have come of age by the time he turned twenty. Second, Luke is only ''mentally'' seven years old. He's still physically seventeen (or nineteen at point in time in question), and I cannot think of a reason why they'd wait until Luke is ''mentally'' 18 for his coming-of-age ceremony. After all, I think most of the characters agree that Luke has matured immensely since the beginning of the game; specifically Guy, as stated if you talk to him in the cathedral in Daath when [[spoiler:Luke is thinking over whether or not he wants to sacrifice his life to neutralize the miasma]].
16th Mar '16 3:57:33 PM OmegaMetroid
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** Considering that the Score is quite literally Lorelei's memories of the future, it's very possible that it does indeed change based on deviations from it, at least in regards to smaller details. As to the foretold end of the world, the point is that Van was planning to destroy the world to "defy" the Score, regardless of whether or not Luke was created; it's only Luke's creation that allowed enough room for them to defy the original Score and prevent it. This change, in turn, propagated into the new Score, as soon as Lorelei noticed it. That's my take on it, at least.
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