History Headscratchers / SwordOfTruth

26th Sep '16 4:47:06 AM Mantyf
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*** Althought, to be honest, you ''can'' rape someone without touching them (squick territory ahead). You could violate their bodies with sticks or similar things that does not involve personal contact. It would require you to be a horrible people and your victim would really suffer, but that was the idea behind the Quads in the first place, and having a person who could rape multiple Confessors and live to tell the tale would be an invaluable instrument of terror for people used to kill each and every one of their mates. And there's the aformentioned advantage of not having to lose one man for every Confessor. Plus, I'm not sure about this, but completely covering your body (with armor, clothing and likes) wouldn't make actually impossible for Confessors to ''touch'' you, actually saving you from their powers?
26th Sep '16 4:32:37 AM Mantyf
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*** I don't think you can confess someone who's already been confessed, and I imagine confessing a condemned criminal and either A. realizing the man was innocent, and oh, hey, you've taken an innocent man's life or B. hearing in detail exactly what the man did to make him condemned would not exactly put someone in the mood to knock boots. As for the shielding magic, that was something apparently available only to those Wizards in league with the Keeper, and thus unavailable to Confessors.\\

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*** I don't think you can confess someone who's already been confessed, and I imagine confessing a condemned criminal and either A. realizing the man was innocent, and oh, hey, you've taken an innocent man's life or B. hearing in detail exactly what the man did to make him condemned would not exactly put someone in the mood to knock boots. As for the shielding magic, that was something apparently available only to those Wizards in league with the Keeper, and thus unavailable to Confessors.Confessors.
*** The fact that a person might be proven innocent after the execution is an argument against death penalty as a whole (and I personally agree that's one of the many reasons it's wrong), but it doesn't work in this situation since, if they are called to take confession for legal reason, apparently that person is already condemned to death anyway, so killing in that specific way doesn't really make any difference.
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1st Jun '16 9:12:17 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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** That'd be in keeping with the [[UsefulNotesObjectivism Objectivist]] view of communism: that it's an impossible principle to hold consistently, and thus blatant hypocrisy will inevitably result, which seems born out by actual communist states.

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** That'd be in keeping with the [[UsefulNotesObjectivism [[UsefulNotes/Objectivism Objectivist]] view of communism: that it's an impossible principle to hold consistently, and thus blatant hypocrisy will inevitably result, which seems born out by actual communist states.
23rd Mar '15 2:57:41 PM nombretomado
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*** Fair enough, but Ayn Rand's theories and RealLife conditions [[{{Main/Firefly}} ain't exactly ever been similar.]] Not only was the USSR a technological powerhouse, as the OP stated, it was also renowned (even in Rand's time) for its high culture, which has actually ''declined'' since the Iron Curtain came down. (Not defending Soviet communism or anything. It was a horrible, corrupt system that had to go. But that doesn't change the facts.)

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*** Fair enough, but Ayn Rand's theories and RealLife conditions [[{{Main/Firefly}} [[{{Series/Firefly}} ain't exactly ever been similar.]] Not only was the USSR a technological powerhouse, as the OP stated, it was also renowned (even in Rand's time) for its high culture, which has actually ''declined'' since the Iron Curtain came down. (Not defending Soviet communism or anything. It was a horrible, corrupt system that had to go. But that doesn't change the facts.)
24th Nov '14 12:55:44 PM MrDeath
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*** Rereading it now, and what Kahlan says is that if you're caught with fire in ''the wrong place'' and ''without approval'', you're dead. So, presumably, Darken Rahl continues to allow his armies to use fire to forge weapons and make food. And at any rate, Rahl's planning to destroy and/or rule the world as a living god within the year, so he couldn't give less of a damn if his edicts make sense.
30th Nov '13 4:37:45 PM Temporary14
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*** I never said that she "charged" into fights to the death regularly, but there have been occasions where she's been forced to fight immediately after using her power, such as when she's fighting against the Imperial Order in the second book. Not her usual actions, but it still shows that she is still capable of intense physical activity. The books never state directly what "losing control" really means, only uses euphemisms like "in the throes of passion," so it may or may not take a full orgasm. In regards to this kind of thing being risky, I'd like to point out, again, that all Confessors turn a man into her slave when they take a mate. Some do it only to criminals or other disposables, but a Confessor is legally within her rights to have ''any'' man she wants, even if he's already married and has a family, and is also legally permitted to confess anyone who objects to her mindraping the man she wants. Even if the methods were "risky" they would still be preferable to this kind of system being in place.\\\

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*** I never said that she "charged" into fights to the death regularly, but there have been occasions where she's been forced to fight immediately after using her power, such as when she's fighting against the Imperial Order in the second book. Not her usual actions, but it still shows that she is still capable of intense physical activity. The books never state directly what "losing control" really means, only uses euphemisms like "in the throes of passion," so it may or may not take a full orgasm. In regards to this kind of thing being risky, I'd like to point out, again, that all Confessors turn a man into her slave when they take a mate. Some do it only to criminals or other disposables, but a Confessor is legally within her rights to have ''any'' man she wants, even if he's already married and has a family, and is also legally permitted to confess anyone who objects to her mindraping the man she wants. Even if the methods were "risky" they would still be preferable to this kind of system being in place.\\\ \\\
30th Nov '13 4:14:21 PM Temporary14
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*** I never said that she "charged" into fights to the death regularly, but there have been occasions where she's been forced to fight immediately after using her power, such as when she's fighting against the Imperial Order in the second book. Not her usual actions, but it still shows that she is still capable of intense physical activity. The books never state directly what "losing control" really means, only uses euphemisms like "in the throes of passion," so it may or may not take a full orgasm. In regards to this kind of thing being risky, I'd like to point out, again, that all Confessors turn a man into her slave when they take a mate. Some do it only to criminals or other disposables, but a Confessor is legally within her rights to have ''any'' man she wants, even if he's already married and has a family, and is also legally permitted to confess anyone who objects to her mindraping the man she wants. Even if the methods were "risky" they would still be preferable to this kind of system being in place. Furthermore, there's still the idea of just using the window in which the Confessor is recovering her power, which there still isn't really any real reason not to. It would leave the Confessor vulnerable, yes, but Confessors still regularly use their powers and are left "vulnerable" without them all getting killed. Confessors are cut off from most of society, yes, but there are still exceptions, with Richard/Kahlan and Magda Searus/Merritt being the canonical examples. Confessors are disliked in the Midlands, yes, but part of that is precisely because of the way that they take mates, which involves innocent people being Confessed.

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*** I never said that she "charged" into fights to the death regularly, but there have been occasions where she's been forced to fight immediately after using her power, such as when she's fighting against the Imperial Order in the second book. Not her usual actions, but it still shows that she is still capable of intense physical activity. The books never state directly what "losing control" really means, only uses euphemisms like "in the throes of passion," so it may or may not take a full orgasm. In regards to this kind of thing being risky, I'd like to point out, again, that all Confessors turn a man into her slave when they take a mate. Some do it only to criminals or other disposables, but a Confessor is legally within her rights to have ''any'' man she wants, even if he's already married and has a family, and is also legally permitted to confess anyone who objects to her mindraping the man she wants. Even if the methods were "risky" they would still be preferable to this kind of system being in place. \\\
Furthermore, there's still the idea of just using the window in which the Confessor is recovering her power, which there still isn't really any real reason not to. It would leave the Confessor vulnerable, yes, but Confessors still regularly use their powers and are left "vulnerable" without them all getting killed. Confessors are cut off from most of society, yes, but there are still exceptions, with Richard/Kahlan and Magda Searus/Merritt being the canonical examples. Confessors are disliked in the Midlands, yes, but part of that is precisely because of the way that they take mates, which involves innocent people being Confessed.
30th Oct '13 11:44:04 PM Temporary14
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* Seriously, though, the main plot of The Pillars of Creation is completely inconsistent. The Sisters of the Dark come within a hair's breadth of releasing the Keeper of the Underworld through an EvilPlan based on some facts they dug up in one of Emperor Jagang's favorite books. The UnwittingPawn has actually met Jagang, and he knows all about her unique nature which would qualify her for this gambit. Oh, and did we forget that Jagang has the ability to read the Sisters' thoughts at will, and that he's fanatically opposed to the Keeper's agenda? And yet somehow he does nothing whatsoever to stop them from trying to pull it off. What gives?

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* Seriously, though, the main plot of The Pillars of Creation is completely inconsistent. The Sisters of the Dark come within a hair's breadth of releasing the Keeper of the Underworld through an EvilPlan based on some facts they dug up in one of Emperor Jagang's favorite books. The UnwittingPawn has actually met Jagang, and he knows all about her unique nature which would qualify her for this gambit. Oh, and did we forget that Jagang has the ability to read lread the Sisters' thoughts at will, and that he's fanatically opposed to the Keeper's agenda? And yet somehow he does nothing whatsoever to stop them from trying to pull it off. What gives?




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*** I never said that she "charged" into fights to the death regularly, but there have been occasions where she's been forced to fight immediately after using her power, such as when she's fighting against the Imperial Order in the second book. Not her usual actions, but it still shows that she is still capable of intense physical activity. The books never state directly what "losing control" really means, only uses euphemisms like "in the throes of passion," so it may or may not take a full orgasm. In regards to this kind of thing being risky, I'd like to point out, again, that all Confessors turn a man into her slave when they take a mate. Some do it only to criminals or other disposables, but a Confessor is legally within her rights to have ''any'' man she wants, even if he's already married and has a family, and is also legally permitted to confess anyone who objects to her mindraping the man she wants. Even if the methods were "risky" they would still be preferable to this kind of system being in place. Furthermore, there's still the idea of just using the window in which the Confessor is recovering her power, which there still isn't really any real reason not to. It would leave the Confessor vulnerable, yes, but Confessors still regularly use their powers and are left "vulnerable" without them all getting killed. Confessors are cut off from most of society, yes, but there are still exceptions, with Richard/Kahlan and Magda Searus/Merritt being the canonical examples. Confessors are disliked in the Midlands, yes, but part of that is precisely because of the way that they take mates, which involves innocent people being Confessed.
11th Jun '13 8:09:23 AM MrDeath
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*** She ''doesn't'' "charge into fights to the death" after using her Confessor power--whenever she uses it in combat, it's at or near the ''end'', and she has to rest up afterward. The few times she uses it to start off a fight (like against the Quad in the first book), it's because it's her only option, and she largely leaves the fighting to the guy she Confessed.\\\
And the original question was finding loopholes such that a Confessor could be with someone she loved--having a loveless match solely for reproduction doesn't really help that point. And it's not just orgasm, it's when the confessor loses control, and it doesn't take a full-on orgasm for someone's concentration to slip. A Confessor is a loaded gun. Counting on her mate to be just bad enough of a lover to never make her lose her concentration is like saying you can just walk around twirling a loaded, un-safetied pistol if you're really careful.
10th Jun '13 9:36:13 PM Temporary14
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*** Using her power doesn't make her sick; she can't eat because it distracts her body from regenerating her power. As long as she doesn't try to eat, she doesn't feel any nausea. It tires her out a bit, but if she can engage in fights to the death, she can have sex. Besides, Kahlan's description implies that confession is only released at orgasm, and it's possible for a woman to have sex and even become pregnant without climaxing. Sure, it won't be very satisfying sex for the Confessor, but if it's a choice between that and destroying the minds of innocent men, it shouldn't be a very hard decision. I'll accept that Confessors probably don't fall in love with very many people due to their image, but they could still have mates in loveless matches solely for reproduction without destroying their minds.
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