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*** The "recording" also acts more like a holographic AI in later movies. In Superman 3, the Jor-El recording steps out of his crystal to have a heart to heart with his son.
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**** The aura also explains how Superman can fly with yachts in impossible positions without having the yacht collapse under its own weight or slip out of his hands (see Man of Steel #4). The idea is that Superman is holding the yacht up with TK, his field having extended over the yacht. Byrne first used the idea of a field being used in this manner for an X-men character he created called Gladiator.
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****Indeed, the superficial reason for him not taking a position was a refusal to influence the outcome at all. But there could be a deeper reason for that commitment. And sure, if Clark Kent were to fill out the appropriate paperwork, he could certainly become a bonafide American Citizen, heck I'm sure if he asked he could get Congress to declare him (as Clark Kent) a citizen. But he hasn't done that, so with his given commitments to principles of abiding by the law and general quality of integrity, he may feel it appropriate to avoid exercising certain prerogatives of that status. Besides voting, he'd probably avoid Jury Duty, though as a journalist he could probably expect to be excused anyway. I wonder if it's ever been a story though. As for use of alignment terms? No different than use of the term decimate.


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** Yes, see RedSon for an example where Superman does take that role.
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**** I could see Clark refusing to let himself get too strongly into politics, though, for the same reason Batman won't let himself cross the line and kill criminals. Superman has the power to easily enforce his opinion onto the world. If he decides that any particular political cause is absolutely just and ''needs'' to happen, he can effortlessly turn it into an ultimatum. To hold onto his ideals of democracy and respecting the public will (even in cases where he totally disagrees with it, like President Luthor), he may have a self-imposed taboo on getting too strongly attached to either side of a political issue. Just like Bruce Wayne knows how easily he could become a SerialKillerKiller if he lets himself cross the line, Superman is aware of how easily his patriotism lead to a BewareTheSuperman dystopia if he lets himself get too personally involved.

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**** I could see Clark refusing to let himself get too strongly into politics, though, for the same reason Batman won't let himself cross the line and kill criminals. Superman has the power to easily enforce his opinion onto the world. If he decides that any particular political cause is absolutely just and ''needs'' to happen, he can effortlessly turn it into an ultimatum. To hold onto his ideals of democracy and respecting the public will (even in cases where he totally disagrees with it, like President Luthor), he may have a self-imposed taboo on getting too strongly attached to either side of a political issue. Just like Bruce Wayne knows how easily he could become a SerialKillerKiller if he lets himself cross the line, Superman is aware of how easily his patriotism could lead to a BewareTheSuperman dystopia if he lets himself get too personally involved.
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**** I could see Clark refusing to let himself get too strongly into politics, though, for the same reason Batman won't let himself cross the line and kill criminals. Superman has the power to easily enforce his opinion onto the world. If he decides that any particular political cause is absolutely just and ''needs'' to happen, he can effortlessly turn it into an ultimatum. To hold onto his ideals of democracy and respecting the public will (even in cases where he totally disagrees with it, like President Luthor), he may have a self-imposed taboo on getting too strongly attached to either side of a political issue. Just like Bruce Wayne knows how easily he could become a SerialKillerKiller if he lets himself cross the line, Superman is aware of how easily his patriotism lead to a BewareTheSuperman dystopia if he lets himself get too personally involved.
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*** It probably meant more that the publishers didn't want to risk offending part of their fanbase by having Superman, who generally serves as the paragon of all that is Right and Good pick a political party and thus imply that whoever he ''didn't'' pick was wrong. What irked me before is that I see people taking the DnD alignment as if they're actual constrictions that apply to the character in question. Useful shorthand? Yes. Rules a non-DnD character has to follow? Not at all.\\\
As for the US-citizen-or-not question? Whether or not he was technically born on US soil, he's spent his entirely life in the US. It takes 14 years (I believe) to qualify for citizenship, and if anyone's going to know enough to pass the citizenship exams, it's the big blue boyscout himself. Even if Clark won't take the exam, he clearly considers himself an American (truth, justice, the American way), and would likely think those qualifications were close enough.

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*** Character alignment is a reasonably useful shorthand for communicating the idea that Superman is committed to certain principles without having to go into details. For most people, I thought it would have some meaning. But if you found what I said confusing, or to have no meaning, well, it can be rephrased as "Would a person like Superman who is so openly committed to honesty and integrity be willing to vote when his status is so much in justifiable doubt?" He was adamant in refusing to state any position in the last comic I read about an election, perhaps it had a deeper reason. Like not actually voting because he didn't consider Clark Kent to be a lawful citizen.




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*** I thought I had seen that idea somewhere, thanks.
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\n** During the ''Comicbook/{{Millennium}}'' crossover, part of this plot hole was fixed: the Manhunters tried to capture his spaceship and created a blizzard to keep people from reaching the crash site, but the Kents found him anyway and ended up stuck in a blizzard for five months. It was plausible that Martha could have given birth during that time.
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\n** Yes he'd still vote. Being a "lawful good type" doesn't mean he has to strictly adhere to every letter of the law Or Else. He is not (repeat: '''Not''') a DnD style Paladin, or a DnD character at all. Ergo, '''''CharacterAlignment means exactly nothing'''''.

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\n** In at least one version of the comic origin, he was technically a fetus while in-transit, and the spaceship doubled as an artificial womb, so from a medical standpoint, his exit from the spaceship counted as being "born", giving him American citizenship. I know that was the main story post-Crisis, and I think they've changed it since, but nevertheless.

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\n* Ok, this is a bit silly on my part, and I'm sure you can you guess I just finished watching an episode of Robot Chicken, but while when Superman was first created, a random couple in Kansas could reasonably expect to claim they had a child, and set up paperwork for their son without anybody worrying. Especially if it was winter, and they were on a farm. Maybe they spent some time isolated on their farm in the snow, and then brought the boy to town after a few weeks. Not too impossible for the early 1900s, even up to the 1920s. But here's the problem, Superman is on a sliding scale, with his arrival continuously pushed forward to closer to modern times. At this point, you wonder about his records. I suppose if he didn't get his invulnerability till later he could at least get his shots, but still, I suppose that's why Smallville had Kal-el arrive during a meteor shower, so they could handwave past it by having everybody believe that his parents were just unlucky blokes passing through who got blown up. The same could be applied to all other versions of Superman if you wanted. And I believe that some DC comic declared Superman had honorary citizenship as an international gesture of support. However there's one slight issue, Clark Kent's never officially become a citizen. Would a lawful good type like him vote with his status being in doubt? So...

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** The whole thing was summerized fairly well [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yavK0mnE3wI here]]. Kryptonite, red sunlight, and magic are no match for Superman's [[PlotInducedStupidity true weakness]].
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**** Not really; there's a bit of a difference between 'taking revenge' (petty and personal or otherwise) and 'being a bully'. If Clark ''routinely'' went to the diner to pick on the same guy, or if he routinely went around picking on people who were weaker than him just to enjoy being able to beat them up, you'd have a point about him being a bully. It's fairly clear he's ''not'' doing this, however, but is taking the opportunity to settle a score -- which, considering the bully very seriously beat the crap out of Clark on very-flimsy-to-no-pretext-at-all the first time they met, isn't ''that'' petty -- and maybe teach this diner bully a lesson or two, which you yourself admit he had coming. Teaching a bully a lesson they won't soon forget is a valid reason to do what Clark did; revenge is perhaps a little unworthy of Superman, but then, the guy's never been a saint, and despite having superstrength Clark still leaves the bully in a ''much'' better condition than the bully left Clark in the first time they met.

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**** Not really; there's a bit of a difference between 'taking revenge' (petty and personal or otherwise) and 'being a bully'. If Clark ''routinely'' went to the diner to pick on the same guy, or if he routinely went around picking on people who were weaker than him just to enjoy being able to beat them up, you'd have a point about him being a bully. It's fairly clear he's ''not'' doing this, however, but is taking the opportunity to settle a score -- which, considering the bully guy very seriously beat the crap out of Clark on very-flimsy-to-no-pretext-at-all the first time they met, isn't ''that'' petty -- and maybe teach this diner bully him a lesson or two, which you yourself admit he certainly had coming. Teaching a bully a lesson they won't soon forget is a valid reason to do what Clark did; revenge is perhaps a little unworthy of Superman, but then, the guy's never been a saint, and despite having superstrength Clark still leaves the bully other man in a ''much'' better condition than the bully guy left Clark in the first time they met.
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**** Not really; there's a bit of a difference between 'taking revenge' (petty and personal or otherwise) and 'being a bully'. If Clark ''routinely'' went to the diner to pick on the same guy, or if he routinely went around picking on people who were weaker than him just to enjoy being able to beat them up, you'd have a point about him being a bully. It's fairly clear he's ''not'' doing this, however, but is taking the opportunity to settle a score -- which, considering the bully very seriously beat the crap out of Clark on very-flimsy-to-no-pretext-at-all the first time they met, isn't ''that'' petty -- and maybe teach this diner bully a lesson or two, which you yourself admit he had coming. Teaching a bully a lesson they won't soon forget is a valid reason to do what Clark did; revenge is perhaps a little unworthy of Superman, but then, the guy's never been a saint, and despite having superstrength Clark still leaves the bully in a ''much'' better condition than the bully left Clark in the first time they met.
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** The vast amount of Kryptonite on Earth has come up in stories, ranging from "Hey, let's help Superman get rid of all the Kryptonite on Earth, hey, there's a lot of it" to "Oh no Superman is bringing all this Kryptonite to Earth to um do something bad" which nonetheless, still makes you wonder, how big a planet was Krypton anyway?
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*** Actually they have more to lose by using guns. Discharging a firearm during a felony automatically gets you bonus jail time. Quite a lot of it, actually; as in 25-to-life instead of 5-to-10. It doesn't matter if the person you're shooting at is bulletproof. Sure, the mass murderer who's going to get the chair anyway might as well try it, but your average bank robber would be better of surrendering. Or, you know, moving to a new city.
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**** I do believe you mean "Guy ''Claiming'' to be From The Future", since the lack of a future for Krypton and its destruction means he won't have all that much foreknowledge that couldn't be obtained by sufficiently advanced subterfuge by a native of the era.


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**** I do believe you mean "Guy ''Claiming'' to be From The Future", since the lack of a future for Krypton and its destruction means he won't have all that much foreknowledge that couldn't be obtained by sufficiently advanced subterfuge by a native of the era.

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**** Yeah, any attempt by Superman to try to convince the council that he's from the future is probably going to be answered with "wow Jor-El, we know you're really obsessed with your pet doom-and-gloom theory, but hiring this guy to pose as your time-traveling son from the future? That is just ''sad''."

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\n**** I do believe you mean "Guy ''Claiming'' to be From The Future", since the lack of a future for Krypton and its destruction means he won't have all that much foreknowledge that couldn't be obtained by sufficiently advanced subterfuge by a native of the era.

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\n*** Besides, in current continuity, you'd still have to contend with Braniac outright lying to the ruling council about Jor-El's findings. You they'd believe "Guy from 'The Future' who happens to be wearing Jor-El's family crest" over Braniac?

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\n*** How, pray tell, would he do that? With the superpowers that ''don't work under a red sun''? With all the science at Jor-El's disposal that didn't do any good the first time around?

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\n*** "Hi, I'm from the future. In my past, Krypton exploded. I came back to stop it."

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\n\n** What, exactly, could Superman do, once he got there, that his dad couldn't?

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\n\n\n** A lame attempt at a counterpart to his always calling Bats "detective"?



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*Superman can time travel.He uses it to save,basically,one woman (and incidentally save millions of other people) on Earth. ''Why doesn't he use it to save Krypton?''


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\n\n\n* Why does Ras al-Ghul refer to Supes as "Icon?"



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** All-Star Superman does something similar: Clark Kent is clearly the same size of Superman, and has the same color hair, but that's where the resemblance ends. Clark is noticeably pudgier and his face is less chiseled. He slouches. He stutters and trips over his own two feet. And as Lex points out, Clark may look similar to Superman, but lots of people purposely emulate Superman, like cutting their eyebrows in the "Superman Swoosh."
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*** Actually Superman didn't have an aura of invulnerability, the aura was just a side effect manifestation of his invulnerability, and its only purpose was to explain why the his uniform didn't get destroyed in his fights or didn't burn from friction when he flew. That's why we often saw him with his uniform intact but his cape turned to rags, in Bryne's version, Superman's uniform was made of normal fabric. Also, since Cadmus couldn't replicate kryptonian DNA, they gave Superboy tactile TK to simulate some kryptonian powers: strenght, flight and physical invulnerability (Superboy was still vulnerable to energy). Of course, that too was retconned, and now he's a half-kryptonian, half-human clone.
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* Okay, so Superman can fly around the world really fast to go back in time. That's plausible enough, considering who we're talking about. But ''Superman: The Movie'' doesn't show him DOING anything different. In fact, it sure looks like the only difference is that Lois's car runs out of gas at a different place. Donner's cut of ''Superman II'' takes this to further heights of ridiculousness. There is no indication that he undid anything. The tough at the bar recognizes Clark as the weakling he downed in one punch, and everyone BUT Lois seems to know something happened. [[hottip:*: If this movie is when Lois's son from Returns [[{{squick}} is conceived]][[SoYeah ...]]]]The "super-kiss" may have been weak, but the time travel simply makes no sense, let alone the lameness of repeating the exact same gimmick.

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* Okay, so Superman can fly around the world really fast to go back in time. That's plausible enough, considering who we're talking about. But ''Superman: The Movie'' doesn't show him DOING anything different. In fact, it sure looks like the only difference is that Lois's car runs out of gas at a different place. Donner's cut of ''Superman II'' takes this to further heights of ridiculousness. There is no indication that he undid anything. The tough at the bar recognizes Clark as the weakling he downed in one punch, and everyone BUT Lois seems to know something happened. [[hottip:*: If this movie is when Lois's son from Returns [[{{squick}} is conceived]][[SoYeah ...]]]]The conceived]]...]]The "super-kiss" may have been weak, but the time travel simply makes no sense, let alone the lameness of repeating the exact same gimmick.
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\n\n\n** To answer the first question, Jor-El probably wanted to sen Kal somewhere where they didn't know about Krypton, hence didn't think of Kryptonians as either xenophobic isolationists or superhuman conquerors (read: somewhere where they wouldn't be predisposed to kill Kal-El the moment they realized what he was). Think a literal life-or-death version of HarryPotter ending up with the Dursleys.



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** Perhaps an example of cultural differences. We must remember that Superman is not Human. He hails from another planet. Perhaps colors we think are clashing are considered beautiful combinations on a planet like Krypton. It would be only natural for Superman to be influenced by his own species' taste, via his Kryptonian-born brain as well as that of humans.

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