History Headscratchers / StarTrekTheOriginalSeries

6th Feb '17 11:03:33 AM thatsnumberwang
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** Where is your proof that a phaser set to stun is harmless against children? So-called ''non-lethal weaponry'' IS frequently lethal as the taser has proved on multiple occasions. There are a whole mass of factors including body mass and development that need to be considered. What if one of those kids had a heart attack? And its not just the censors that are the problem (the laws really have not changed much when it comes to adult on child violence) its the whole image of Kirk as a hero - and heroes do not shoot children.
5th Feb '17 8:33:46 PM MythrilMothV3
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[[folder:And the Children Shall Not Be Phasered?]]
* In "And the Children Shall Lead", once it became blatantly obvious that the Triacus children were the (in)direct cause of ''everything'' happening on Triacus and aboard the ''Enterprise'', why did it never occur to Kirk to simply grab a hand phaser and ''stun the lot of them''? They would not have suffered any permanent harm, it would have given Kirk and his crew back control of the ship, and Bones could've kept them sedated until they could be properly dealt with. Ignoring the fact that you probably couldn't show violence toward children on TV in the 60s, a simple hand phaser set to stun would've avoided everything.
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24th Dec '16 1:00:58 PM thatsnumberwang
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*** Why are small changes allowed? [[SarcasmMode because they are small.]] Small scale collateral damage vs the end of the world as we know it is not a hard decision. A lot of people also seem to be forgetting the episode ''Tomorrow Is Yesterday'' and the character of Captain John Christopher. Kirk has already had to face the ramifications of removing someone from history and it is rather unbelievable that this experience isn't at least partially influencing him here.
24th Dec '16 8:53:39 AM TheMysteriousTroper
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*** Except that unless you're telepathic there ''is'' no way to tell whether someone "genuinely" believes it or not... which in the particular context of Spock and McCoy might explain it, but we see in DS9 that O'Brien at least has some racism towards Cardassians, iirc, and there was that quarter-Romulan crewman in TNG who was apparently considered inherently suspicious by virtue of that fact, so it's not like bigotry has magically disappeared in the Federation.

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*** Except that unless you're telepathic there ''is'' no way to tell whether someone "genuinely" believes it or not... which in the particular context of Spock and McCoy [=McCoy=] might explain it, but we see in DS9 that O'Brien at least has some racism towards Cardassians, iirc, and there was that quarter-Romulan crewman in TNG who was apparently considered inherently suspicious by virtue of that fact, so it's not like bigotry has magically disappeared in the Federation.



** An average is just that: a smoothing over of rough data. Spock is working from the information McCoy provided him and at the scale Spock is talking about the ship is still screwed regardless of minor deviations from the mean. As for getting into the storage bin, there ''was'' a Klingon spy on the station who could have gotten aboard the ship and planted a few tribbles there to sabotage the ''Enterprise'''s mission. Granted, tribbles don't like Klingons but Cyrano could have put a few in a box for him, or he could have used some form of anesthesia to sedate them long enough to get the job done.

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** An average is just that: a smoothing over of rough data. Spock is working from the information McCoy [=McCoy=] provided him and at the scale Spock is talking about the ship is still screwed regardless of minor deviations from the mean. As for getting into the storage bin, there ''was'' a Klingon spy on the station who could have gotten aboard the ship and planted a few tribbles there to sabotage the ''Enterprise'''s mission. Granted, tribbles don't like Klingons but Cyrano could have put a few in a box for him, or he could have used some form of anesthesia to sedate them long enough to get the job done.
30th Nov '16 1:04:20 PM Bense
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** The Salt Vampire is compared to the buffalo in its episode (once covered the plains of its world, now nearly extinct). So it could be an in-joke stand-in for a buffalo.
30th Nov '16 1:01:13 PM Bense
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** It's possible it was just a mental transfer.
30th Nov '16 12:58:27 PM Bense
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** Maybe Kirk didn't realize it was ''that'' Sarek. Maybe Sarek is actually a fairly common name among Vulcans.
30th Nov '16 12:56:24 PM Bense
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* After Edith Keeler's death, how did Kirk, Spock and McCoy get back to the 23nd Century? Did the Guardian of Forever transport them back after the last 30s scene. And if they Guardian could just pull people back, since there's no way they could have made it to the planet it was on in the 1930s, why didn't the Guardian just bring McCoy back before he changed anything?
** I'm going into WMG territory here, but maybe the Guardian either marked them somehow or gave them some kind of tracking device (that we were not told about) before they entered the gate. So the Guardian knew where they were, and could pull them back any time, but needed them to find McCoy, who got lost.

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* After Edith Keeler's death, how did Kirk, Spock and McCoy [=McCoy=] get back to the 23nd Century? Did the Guardian of Forever transport them back after the last 30s scene. And if they Guardian could just pull people back, since there's no way they could have made it to the planet it was on in the 1930s, why didn't the Guardian just bring McCoy [=McCoy=] back before he changed anything?
** I'm going into WMG territory here, but maybe the Guardian either marked them somehow or gave them some kind of tracking device (that we were not told about) before they entered the gate. So the Guardian knew where they were, and could pull them back any time, but needed them to find McCoy, [=McCoy=], who got lost.lost.
** It seems likely that the Guardian can only pull back someone who is willing and ready to come back, and knows that the Guardian is waiting to bring them back. [=McCoy=] wasn't coherent enough to even understand what the Guardian was before he went through, and so he couldn't be willing to go back until Kirk and Spock met him in the past and told him what was up.
30th Nov '16 12:53:06 PM Bense
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** The model of the ''Enterprise'' had shuttle bay doors on the back from the first pilot, but the shuttle itself hadn't been designed or the props or models built at the time of "The Enemy Within."
28th Nov '16 9:46:40 AM isolato
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* Spock and [=McCoy=] are VitriolicBestBuds - we should note that Spock in the first place does not seem to be really offended by [=McCoy=]'s jibes, while reacting to slurs (by other characters, e.g,. Evil!Kirk in The Enemy Within) which are really ''meant'' as such. Also - [=McCoy=] scores quite a lot of {{Insult Backfire}}s, as [[TheSpock Spock]] is actually ''glad'' to hear that he's "utterly emotionless and governed by logic alone".

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* Spock and [=McCoy=] are VitriolicBestBuds - we should note that Spock in the first place does not seem to be really offended by [=McCoy=]'s jibes, while reacting to slurs (by other characters, e.g,.g. Evil!Kirk in The Enemy Within) which are really ''meant'' as such. Also - [=McCoy=] scores quite a lot of {{Insult Backfire}}s, as [[TheSpock Spock]] is actually ''glad'' to hear that he's "utterly emotionless and governed by logic alone".
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