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3rd Sep '16 5:34:55 PM costanton11
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*** In the case with Spock, that was more a of spur of the moment decision made by Kirk himself in response to an emergency, with Spock deferring authority to Kirk due to outranking him, while the case with Decker was an official arrangement planned by Kirk's superiors ahead of time.
25th Aug '16 1:36:15 PM Bense
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*** It's not just a positional thing though, it's a real demotion in rank. Decker even starts wearing Commander's stripes on his uniform after Kirk takes over. Ilia notices immediately and wonders why he's a Commander again instead of a Captain.
25th Jul '16 12:37:53 AM Kalmbach
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** The problem with this is that Voyager 6 has an almost identical design to Voyager 1, given even a cursory glance. As for the black hole...well, terminology was a bit wonky at the time the film came out, so most likely it actually fell through a wormhole and the script used the wrong term. [=McCoy=] even says this in the film, stating that the probe was lost in "what we used to call a black hole", implying an entirely different phenomenon.

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** The problem with this is that Voyager 6 has an almost identical design to Voyager 1, given even a cursory glance. As for the black hole...well, terminology was a bit wonky at the time the film came out, so most likely it actually fell through a wormhole and the script used the wrong term. [=McCoy=] Decker even says this in the film, stating that the probe was lost in "what we used to call a black hole", implying an entirely different phenomenon.
25th Jul '16 12:36:47 AM Kalmbach
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** This can also be attributed to the confusion between the ''rank'' of Captain, and the ''position'' of Captain i.e. commanding officer of a vessel. The commanding officer is in charge, even if there are other officers of the same rank aboard. For example, an aircraft carrier might have a number of naval aviators holding the rank of Captain, but they are all subordinate to the commanding officer, who also holds the rank of Captain.



** The problem with this is that Voyager 6 has an almost identical design to Voyager 1, given even a cursory glance. As for the black hole...well, terminology was a bit wonky at the time the film came out, so most likely it actually fell through a wormhole and the script used the wrong term.

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** The problem with this is that Voyager 6 has an almost identical design to Voyager 1, given even a cursory glance. As for the black hole...well, terminology was a bit wonky at the time the film came out, so most likely it actually fell through a wormhole and the script used the wrong term. [=McCoy=] even says this in the film, stating that the probe was lost in "what we used to call a black hole", implying an entirely different phenomenon.
25th Jul '16 12:20:42 AM Kalmbach
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** The Original Series, including the movies, is a little inconsistent with whether a transporter is needed on both ends when beaming between ships. Note that when they beam to somewhere without a transporter they usually pick an open area with few obstacles in it. Beaming inside a ship is described as dangerous from time to time, so beaming right to the bridge would probably be considered reckless. They do fix the transporters in time to beam [=McCoy=] aboard a short time later (probably Kirk told him about the transporter accident only ''after'' they beamed him aboard).

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** The Original Series, including the movies, is a little inconsistent with whether a transporter is needed on both ends when beaming between ships. Note that when they beam to somewhere without a transporter they usually pick an open area with few obstacles in it. Beaming inside a ship is described as dangerous from time to time, so beaming right to the bridge would probably be considered reckless.reckless, especially if [[TeleFrag somebody just happens to be standing in the way]]. They do fix the transporters in time to beam [=McCoy=] aboard a short time later (probably Kirk told him about the transporter accident only ''after'' they beamed him aboard).
28th Jun '16 1:07:51 PM Bense
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**** Note that in ''Film/StarTrekIITheWrathOfKhan'' Spock keeps his rank of Captain even after Kirk formally takes command. Either Starfleet procedure changed or Kirk mellows somewhat when it's his best friend he's taking over from.
28th Jun '16 1:04:42 PM Bense
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** Kirk's white suit seems to be the same model, and he is seen using RCS thrusters on them in a scene not in the theatrical version when he follows Spock out the airlock door.
28th Jun '16 12:59:55 PM Bense
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*** The spacedock ''does'' have its own pads. Kirk uses them when he beams up from Stafleet command. Then he and Scotty use a travel pod to fly over to the ''Enterprise'' (and all the way around it before docking - Scotty seems to be using the opportunity to show off the refitted ship to Kirk and the audience). Maybe only Admirals get to use the travel pod method, with everyone else forced to use the tranporters.
27th May '16 4:20:23 PM CaptEquinox
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* In an early draft, it was ''Spock'' who was supposed to have had an affair with Ilia some years before. They reunited when he came onboard the Big E. Everything else happened as you saw, except with Spock instead of Decker; including the ascension with Ilia-probe at the end. All of this was designed to bring Nimoy back for this picture while guaranteeing he'd never have to play Spock again. Nimoy had not wanted to come back, especially with the big lawsuit he had going against Paramount. It was only when that was resolved that he agreed to sign up.[[note]]"It was a very tough time, complicated by the fact that I was pursuing a lawsuit against Paramount at the time, that had to do with merchandising royalties that I had failed to receive.... [so] they were calling me to go to work for them, while at the same time I had a lawsuit outstanding against them..." Also, Roddenberry had engaged him for something else and then abruptly dropped him, so he had refused to be in the film, so Spock was left out of the screenplay. It wasn't until Robert Wise arranged to have the promised royalties paid to Nimoy that he agreed to return.[[/note]]
30th Apr '16 4:43:20 PM CaptEquinox
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** Deltans are a very sensual race. AnythingThatMoves doesn't even being to cover it. Apparently sex for them is both extremely culturally significant and also transmit telepathic information between the members involved, sending anything from speech to memories or pain relief. However, with a human or other species is dangerous because 1. the Deltan may demand for more sex than the human can supply, and 2. the telepathy [[YourHeadAsplode may go bad for your brain]]. Much of that had to be cut out of the film because, well, G rating.

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** Deltans are a very sensual race. AnythingThatMoves doesn't even being to cover it. Apparently sex for them is both extremely culturally significant and also transmit telepathic information between the members involved, sending anything from speech to memories or pain relief. However, with a human or other species is dangerous because 1. the Deltan may demand for more sex than the human can supply, and 2. the telepathy [[YourHeadAsplode may go bad for your brain]]. Plus, like the silk moth on earth, Deltans emit "pheromones" that cause humans to go insanely horny. (We are not told what effect Deltan women have on gay men or Lesbians.) Much of that had to be cut out of the film because, well, G rating.
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