History Headscratchers / StarTrekTheMotionPicture

18th Sep '17 1:56:39 PM Bense
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* V'ger never gave them the patterns before heading off to "other realms of existence".
* Also, V'ger had digitized entire civilizations. Federation transporters can handle maybe a dozen people at once. It probably would have taken a lot of time and a ''lot'' of energy to reconstitute all of what V'ger had, if Federation technology could have done it at all.
17th Sep '17 6:03:43 AM WarriorsGate
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

[[folder:Starfleet & V'ger: NotSoDifferent?]]
Whenever V'ger comes across an entity in space, it reduces them to "patterns for data storage" and this is treated as effectively being death. But the teleporter uses DestructiveTeleportation to function--the existence of Thomas Riker couldn't happen otherwise--so V'ger isn't doing anything Starfleet hasn't been doing for decades already. Why couldn't they just pop the "patterns" into the teleporter and rematerialize them again?
[[/folder]]
15th Sep '17 10:57:23 AM thespecialneedsgroup
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The Klingon attack wasn't monitored directly by the station, itself. Dialogue makes it clear that the telemetry is being relayed by "sensor drones." Presumably, once Epsilon IX realized that the drones were picking up something of interest, they started using the drones, themselves, to actively scan the altercation. That active scan was probably the source of the video feed. When V'Ger approached the array, it would have prudent to use those same drones to [[ApocalypticLog monitor the attack on the station]] from multiple angles, and transmit their telemetry directly to Starfleet Command. This would hopefully give Starfleet the chance to analyze the data, and find a way to defend Earth. In fact, as often as we've seen starship captains dump their ships' logs into a marker buoy to be left behind for Starfleet to find whenever they think their ship is in mortal danger, it's probably standard operating procedure.

to:

* The Klingon attack wasn't monitored directly by the station, itself. Dialogue makes it clear that the telemetry is being relayed by "sensor drones." Presumably, once Epsilon IX realized that the drones were picking up something of interest, they started using the drones, themselves, to actively scan the altercation. That active scan was probably the source of the video feed. When V'Ger approached the array, it would have been prudent to use those same drones to [[ApocalypticLog monitor the attack on the station]] from multiple angles, and transmit their telemetry directly to Starfleet Command. This would hopefully give Starfleet the chance to analyze the data, and find a way to defend Earth. In fact, as often as we've seen starship captains dump their ships' logs into a marker buoy to be left behind for Starfleet to find whenever they think their ship is in mortal danger, it's probably standard operating procedure.
15th Sep '17 10:56:19 AM thespecialneedsgroup
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The Klingon attack wasn't monitored directly by the station, itself. Dialogue makes it clear that the telemetry is being relayed by "sensor drones." Presumably, once Epsilon IX realized that the drones were picking up something of interest, they started using the drones, themselves, to actively scan the altercation. That active scan was probably the source of the video feed. When V'Ger approached the array, it would have prudent to use those same drones to [[ApocalypticLog monitor the attack on the station]] from a multiple angles, and transmit their telemetry directly to Starfleet Command. This would hopefully give Starfleet the chance to analyze the data, and find a way to defend Earth. In fact, as often as we've seen starship captains dump their ships' logs into a marker buoy to be left behind for Starfleet to find whenever they think their ship is in mortal danger, it's probably standard operating procedure.

to:

* The Klingon attack wasn't monitored directly by the station, itself. Dialogue makes it clear that the telemetry is being relayed by "sensor drones." Presumably, once Epsilon IX realized that the drones were picking up something of interest, they started using the drones, themselves, to actively scan the altercation. That active scan was probably the source of the video feed. When V'Ger approached the array, it would have prudent to use those same drones to [[ApocalypticLog monitor the attack on the station]] from a multiple angles, and transmit their telemetry directly to Starfleet Command. This would hopefully give Starfleet the chance to analyze the data, and find a way to defend Earth. In fact, as often as we've seen starship captains dump their ships' logs into a marker buoy to be left behind for Starfleet to find whenever they think their ship is in mortal danger, it's probably standard operating procedure.
[[/folder]]
15th Sep '17 10:53:48 AM thespecialneedsgroup
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[/folder]]


to:

[[/folder]]

* The Klingon attack wasn't monitored directly by the station, itself. Dialogue makes it clear that the telemetry is being relayed by "sensor drones." Presumably, once Epsilon IX realized that the drones were picking up something of interest, they started using the drones, themselves, to actively scan the altercation. That active scan was probably the source of the video feed. When V'Ger approached the array, it would have prudent to use those same drones to [[ApocalypticLog monitor the attack on the station]] from a multiple angles, and transmit their telemetry directly to Starfleet Command. This would hopefully give Starfleet the chance to analyze the data, and find a way to defend Earth. In fact, as often as we've seen starship captains dump their ships' logs into a marker buoy to be left behind for Starfleet to find whenever they think their ship is in mortal danger, it's probably standard operating procedure.
22nd Jun '17 1:21:32 PM madorosh
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* The short answer: the same place as the music.



* The short answer: the same place as the music.

to:

* The short answer: the same place as the music.

22nd Jun '17 1:21:10 PM madorosh
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

* The short answer: the same place as the music.
13th Dec '16 8:50:57 AM costanton11
Is there an issue? Send a Message


*** The spacedock ''does'' have its own pads. Kirk uses them when he beams up from Stafleet command. Then he and Scotty use a travel pod to fly over to the ''Enterprise'' (and all the way around it before docking - Scotty seems to be using the opportunity to show off the refitted ship to Kirk and the audience). Maybe only Admirals get to use the travel pod method, with everyone else forced to use the tranporters.

to:

*** The spacedock ''does'' have its own pads. Kirk uses them when he beams up from Stafleet command. Then he and Scotty use a travel pod to fly over to the ''Enterprise'' (and all the way around it before docking - Scotty seems to be using the opportunity to show off the refitted ship to Kirk and the audience). Maybe only Admirals get to use the travel pod method, with everyone else forced to use the tranporters.transporters.



* Am I the only one who finds the one shot just after launch that is shot from the ceiling directly down on the Navigation Station and Captain's chair to be somewhat jarring? Of course this would be more a Horizontal Video than a Vertical Video (For those not knowing the term, it apples to people you tubing videoes on hand held devices vertically instead of horizontally.)

to:

* Am I the only one who finds the one shot just after launch that is shot from the ceiling directly down on the Navigation Station and Captain's chair to be somewhat jarring? Of course this would be more a Horizontal Video than a Vertical Video (For those not knowing the term, it apples to people you tubing videoes videos on hand held devices vertically instead of horizontally.)



* What in the bleeding hell are those black things on the crewmembers' tunics supposed to be in ST:TMP? I've never even seen any behind-the-scenes info on what function they're supposed to serve, and they look like they'd be hideously uncomfortable.

to:

* What in the bleeding hell are those black things on the crewmembers' crew members' tunics supposed to be in ST:TMP? I've never even seen any behind-the-scenes info on what function they're supposed to serve, and they look like they'd be hideously uncomfortable.



*** Worse than that, William Shatner said it was extremely painful for the male castmembers to even ''sit down'' in them. Basically the first film was a lot more dreary and militaristic and the uniforms were supposed to reflect that. Instead they just reflected what a miserable time everyone had making that movie.

to:

*** Worse than that, William Shatner said it was extremely painful for the male castmembers cast members to even ''sit down'' in them. Basically the first film was a lot more dreary and militaristic and the uniforms were supposed to reflect that. Instead they just reflected what a miserable time everyone had making that movie.
3rd Sep '16 5:34:55 PM costanton11
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** In the case with Spock, that was more a of spur of the moment decision made by Kirk himself in response to an emergency, with Spock deferring authority to Kirk due to outranking him, while the case with Decker was an official arrangement planned by Kirk's superiors ahead of time.
25th Aug '16 1:36:15 PM Bense
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** It's not just a positional thing though, it's a real demotion in rank. Decker even starts wearing Commander's stripes on his uniform after Kirk takes over. Ilia notices immediately and wonders why he's a Commander again instead of a Captain.
This list shows the last 10 events of 60. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Headscratchers.StarTrekTheMotionPicture