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7th Jan '16 5:14:08 AM Durison
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**** That could actually work. The Ba'ku say that they came from a planet that was destroying itself in a war. The Son'a rebellion would have been a sobering reminder of their species' violent history.
23rd Dec '15 8:46:43 AM Durison
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** Also, the film may have been attempting to imply that the So'na needed Federation resources to complete the project. After all, the collector ship seemed like some pretty specialized tech.
20th Nov '15 6:50:51 AM Durison
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** To put it as simply as possible the Ba'ku are SpaceAmish.
4th Nov '15 8:14:13 PM immortalfrieza
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** Unless I'm misremembering, the planet was inside Federation space while the Son'a were Dominion allies at the time. If the Son'a had tried, then they would have been repelled by a Federation task force before they got there or after getting there but before they could build the collector and make off with the particles. To achieve their goal they had to take the diplomatic route and butter the Federation up with promises of the benniftits of an alliance.

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** Unless I'm misremembering, the planet was inside Federation space while the Son'a were Dominion allies at the time. If the Son'a had tried, then they would have been repelled by a Federation task force before they got there or after getting there but before they could build the collector and make off with the particles. To achieve their goal they had to take the diplomatic route and butter the Federation up with promises of the benniftits benefits of an alliance.alliance.
** Ru'afo simply wanted to get vengence upon the Ba'ku, that's all there was to it. First he went with the "relocate them all without them noticing" plan because it would be deliciously ironic, the Ba'ku suddenly finding out within a decade that their magical radiation no longer works and they proceed to slowly languish away just like the Son'a did without any means to get themselves off the planet because they rejected technology, all the while the Son'a laugh themselves sick enjoying the benefits of eternal youth once again AND being technologically advanced race at the same time, and when that fails simply launching the Injector and killing them all. This is all under the assumption that Ru'afo's claim that the Injector actually WORKED to get those particles is true and wasn't just a load of B.S. the Son'a said to the Federation in order to use their doomsday weapon to kill off the Ba'ku and prevent the Federation from ever getting their hands on the particles ever as a last laugh to their enemies. Ultimately everything the Son'a that don't go against Ru'afo do throughout the movie is about getting this revenge.
15th Jul '15 3:22:12 PM LordofUzkulak
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* Why did the Son'a want to relocate the Ba'ku anyway? It was clear That Ru'afo HATED them and the rest of the Son'a were probably doing this out of spite as well, so why didn't they just steal the rings and let them all die? It would've eliminated any need for a Federation alliance and Ru'afo would've had his revenge.

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* Why did the Son'a want to relocate the Ba'ku anyway? It was clear That Ru'afo HATED them and the rest of the Son'a were probably doing this out of spite as well, so why didn't they just steal the rings and let them all die? It would've eliminated any need for a Federation alliance and Ru'afo would've had his revenge.revenge.
**Unless I'm misremembering, the planet was inside Federation space while the Son'a were Dominion allies at the time. If the Son'a had tried, then they would have been repelled by a Federation task force before they got there or after getting there but before they could build the collector and make off with the particles. To achieve their goal they had to take the diplomatic route and butter the Federation up with promises of the benniftits of an alliance.
15th Jul '15 2:32:33 PM heretoeditisall
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** They tried and failed, and given he just exposed the fact that they were being spied on, it's the least they can do. They're luddites, not jerks.

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** They tried and failed, and given he just exposed the fact that they were being spied on, it's the least they can do. They're luddites, not jerks.jerks.
* Why did the Son'a want to relocate the Ba'ku anyway? It was clear That Ru'afo HATED them and the rest of the Son'a were probably doing this out of spite as well, so why didn't they just steal the rings and let them all die? It would've eliminated any need for a Federation alliance and Ru'afo would've had his revenge.
20th Apr '15 7:17:29 PM TheRoguePenguin
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* Why did the Ba'ku repair Data? They believe that "if you create a machine it take takes something away from the man" so surely Data should be an abomination in their eyes as essentially he takes ''everything'' away from the man considering he effectively ''replaces'' a man.

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* Why did the Ba'ku repair Data? They believe that "if you create a machine it take takes something away from the man" so surely Data should be an abomination in their eyes as essentially he takes ''everything'' away from the man considering he effectively ''replaces'' a man.man.
** They tried and failed, and given he just exposed the fact that they were being spied on, it's the least they can do. They're luddites, not jerks.
12th Apr '15 7:46:11 AM LordofUzkulak
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** Guys, we have compact storage devices ''today'' that could hold several thousand songs, 300 years and access to aliens who've been around a lot longer probably means they could fit the entirety of 20th century media on something the size of an iPad (actually, IIRC, the Voyager Episode Prime Factors had something like the entirety of the Federation's media on something the size of a couple of glasses cases thick, and that may just have been the casing). As for how quickly he accessed it, the angle of his hands would indicate that it's not directly in front of him, but more to the side, centralized, if you will, like where the car radio would be if it was a car. Why they'd have such a thing, well, you need to kill the time when you're waiting hours for a spatial anomaly to appear.

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** Guys, we have compact storage devices ''today'' that could hold several thousand songs, 300 years and access to aliens who've been around a lot longer probably means they could fit the entirety of 20th century media on something the size of an iPad (actually, IIRC, the Voyager Episode Prime Factors had something like the entirety of the Federation's media on something the size of a couple of glasses cases thick, and that may just have been the casing). As for how quickly he accessed it, the angle of his hands would indicate that it's not directly in front of him, but more to the side, centralized, if you will, like where the car radio would be if it was a car. Why they'd have such a thing, well, you need to kill the time when you're waiting hours for a spatial anomaly to appear.appear.
*Why did the Ba'ku repair Data? They believe that "if you create a machine it take takes something away from the man" so surely Data should be an abomination in their eyes as essentially he takes ''everything'' away from the man considering he effectively ''replaces'' a man.
12th Apr '15 7:38:10 AM LordofUzkulak
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***But that doesn't really hold up as Geordi was born blind, so if the radiation couldn't regrow hair, it shouldn't be able to fix whatever genetic defect made Gordi blind. Not to mention (unless I misremember the film/misinterpret what is stated) it caused him to regrow his eyeballs which is surely more extreme than hair growth (and on that note, shouldn't Picard have re grown his heart if this is the case?)
1st Mar '15 4:11:47 PM SharleeD
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** For all we know, the Son'a asked the Dominion for help first, but were turned down flat. The Founders, assuming they ever age at all, are probably too biologically different from humanoids to benefit from the radiation's effects, and their servitor-races are all brainwashed to be content with the lifespans they were given. Why should the Dominion divert troops away from more strategic targets, just to help Ru'afo throw a hissy-fit? Better to just crank out fresh Jen'hadar faster than to chase after dubious medical treatments for troops that were bred to be cannon fodder anyway.

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** For all we know, the Son'a asked the Dominion for help first, but were turned down flat. The Founders, assuming they ever age at all, are probably too biologically different from humanoids to benefit from the radiation's effects, and their servitor-races are all brainwashed to be content with the lifespans they were given. Why should the Dominion divert troops away from more strategic targets, just to help Ru'afo throw a hissy-fit? Better to just crank out fresh Jen'hadar Jem'Hadar faster than to chase after dubious medical treatments for troops that were bred to be cannon fodder anyway.
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