History Headscratchers / StarFox

28th May '16 12:28:54 AM Doug86
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* Does anyone else feel like the star Fox series as a whole hasn't been developed very well? I don't mean game-wise, but rather continuity-wise. The characters up through Assault haven't been given a lot of in-game depth (this troper hasn't played Command; the word from a relative who has is that it's only marginally better in that game), and the universe as a whole doesn't feel developed beyond a series of things for you to shoot at. If there's backstory, it's AllInTheManual, and almost never explored in-game; this seems wholly dissatisfying to me, because there seems to be a lot of potential avenues of exploration here. It seems like the Star Fox series cries out for some expansion and depth that other long-running Nintendo series don't really need so much (e.g. Mario, Legend of Zelda, Metroid).

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* Does anyone else feel like the star Fox series as a whole hasn't been developed very well? I don't mean game-wise, but rather continuity-wise. The characters up through Assault haven't been given a lot of in-game depth (this troper hasn't played Command; the word from a relative who has is that it's only marginally better in that game), and the universe as a whole doesn't feel developed beyond a series of things for you to shoot at. If there's backstory, it's AllInTheManual, AllThereInTheManual, and almost never explored in-game; this seems wholly dissatisfying to me, because there seems to be a lot of potential avenues of exploration here. It seems like the Star Fox series cries out for some expansion and depth that other long-running Nintendo series don't really need so much (e.g. Mario, Legend of Zelda, Metroid).
26th May '16 5:33:25 PM OniRayyo1991
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*** Sector Z is an UnavoidableAmbush

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*** Sector Z is an UnavoidableAmbush[[LuredIntoATrap unavoidable ambush]].



* Why is it that, in Star Fox 64/3D, if you get less than 100 hits/kills at Sector Y, you're sent to Katina (unless you restart the level and try getting at least 100 hits/kills)? Is it (still) suppose to be a test to see if you are capable of taking on the red path levels, like the dialogue you hear during the level?

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* Why is it that, in Star Fox 64/3D, if you get less than 100 hits/kills at Sector Y, you're sent to Katina Katina/Kakinara (unless you restart the level and try getting at least 100 hits/kills)? Is it (still) suppose to be a test to see if you are capable of taking on the red path levels, like the dialogue you hear during the level?
26th May '16 5:16:55 PM OniRayyo1991
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*Why is it that, in Star Fox 64/3D, if you get less than 100 hits/kills at Sector Y, you're sent to Katina (unless you restart the level and try getting at least 100 hits/kills)? Is it (still) suppose to be a test to see if you are capable of taking on the red path levels, like the dialogue you hear during the level?
16th May '16 5:38:29 PM Nyperold
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** I should clarify. "That minigame" is not the gambling one, but the one where the Lightfoots tie you to a totem pole and surround you with Lightfoots with spears, rotate the pole some random amount, and have a Lightfoot approach and jab you with a spear if you haven't fended him off, rotate it again, and so on until you're all the way dead or all his troops have given up. This is apparently what they do to thieves, and the Shopkeeper is demonstrably not above theft to gain wares for his shop; at least three of his items were stolen from others: Tricky's Ball, the Hi-Def Display Device, and the Golden Root. (I would even count it likely that the Fuel Cells he stocks are some of the ones ROB beamed down.) Given this propensity, he would likely run afoul of them... but as he can teleport, they wouldn't be able to hold him for long.
18th Mar '16 2:07:40 AM Nyperold
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*** Possibility one regarding Gatekeepers: Contingency. They knew the planet was being pushed apart, hence the Spellstones and Force Point Temples. Possibility two... well, have you seen any paths that lead where the chunks go? I mean, I understand why they wouldn't want to use up disc space on it, but it would have been kind of neat to be able to walk to the spots where they were, or for that matter, when you're on a chunk, walk down the path that would connect it to someplace in the foot-accessible world. As it stands, without Gatekeepers, the chunks are isolated regardless of whether they're in orbit or returned to the planet.


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***** Maybe they can also tell which direction specifically the offending shot came from, even if it hit the same spot.


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** Maybe Pepper abides by a use of force continuum of some description. The enemy -- the actual enemy, not including territorial wildlife -- is mainly armed with clubs and axes, so even a blaster might be considered overkill.
28th Jan '16 6:11:32 PM nombretomado
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* The changes made to the characters in ''Star Fox Command'' bug me: Bill's change from surfer dude to southern hick (same goes with Wolf, if SuperSmashBros Brawl is to be believed), Kat's fur color change from pink to gray, Panther suddenly channeling the speech patterns of Doctor Doom, etc. Then again, that concerns me less than the fact that the creators hinted the next game will supposedly be set in the middle of ''Command'', essentially making ''half the game and all of its endings moot''.

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* The changes made to the characters in ''Star Fox Command'' bug me: Bill's change from surfer dude to southern hick (same goes with Wolf, if SuperSmashBros Brawl ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'' is to be believed), Kat's fur color change from pink to gray, Panther suddenly channeling the speech patterns of Doctor Doom, etc. Then again, that concerns me less than the fact that the creators hinted the next game will supposedly be set in the middle of ''Command'', essentially making ''half the game and all of its endings moot''.



** [[Franchise/MetalGear Colonel]] described them as one in [[SuperSmashBros Brawl]], calling them a "commando-for-hire" group.

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** [[Franchise/MetalGear Colonel]] described them as one in [[SuperSmashBros Brawl]], ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Brawl]]'', calling them a "commando-for-hire" group.
5th Sep '15 8:49:35 AM Prfnoff
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* Something that's bugged me since the end of VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures - did Krystal learn English? Or does the whole team still use a translator to understand her?

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* Something that's bugged me since the end of VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' - did Krystal learn English? Or does the whole team still use a translator to understand her?



* Am I the only one who liked VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures (Dinosaur Planet, if you really can't stand that name)? I never understood why people found it so bad.

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* Am I the only one who liked VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'' (Dinosaur Planet, if you really can't stand that name)? I never understood why people found it so bad.



* In StarFoxAdventures, why does Krystal's staff work on so many things? It's like a universal lock pick on Dinosaur Planet. There are even places all around the world where you can upgrade your staff using compatable magic. However, Krystal acts like the staff is hers and has been all along, like it came from Cernia. So why is it that her staff interacts so well with Dinosaur Planet?

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* In StarFoxAdventures, ''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures'', why does Krystal's staff work on so many things? It's like a universal lock pick on Dinosaur Planet. There are even places all around the world where you can upgrade your staff using compatable magic. However, Krystal acts like the staff is hers and has been all along, like it came from Cernia. So why is it that her staff interacts so well with Dinosaur Planet?



* General Pepper sending Fox to Dinosaur Planet without ''any'' weapons in VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures. What the hell. "You're supposed to be saving the planet, not blowing it up". So apparently using blasters would make the planet explode...and yet Krystal's staff fires energy bolts as its ''very first upgrade'', and nothing bad happens. I can understand not letting Fox use the Landmaster or a rocket launcher because it would've been over-excessive, but are you seriously telling me that he couldn't have let Fox bring along a pistol or some other sidearm in case things went south? Heck, he could've at least brought a baton or knife with him! It's a jungle planet populated by ''dinosaurs'', for crying out loud!\\\

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* General Pepper sending Fox to Dinosaur Planet without ''any'' weapons in VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures.''VideoGame/StarFoxAdventures''. What the hell. "You're supposed to be saving the planet, not blowing it up". So apparently using blasters would make the planet explode...and yet Krystal's staff fires energy bolts as its ''very first upgrade'', and nothing bad happens. I can understand not letting Fox use the Landmaster or a rocket launcher because it would've been over-excessive, but are you seriously telling me that he couldn't have let Fox bring along a pistol or some other sidearm in case things went south? Heck, he could've at least brought a baton or knife with him! It's a jungle planet populated by ''dinosaurs'', for crying out loud!\\\
12th Aug '15 10:41:50 AM Kolemegil
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**Unless the maps are just representative of the team's mission queue. If they displayed the planets on a realistic scale or positioning, they'd take up a lot more space. Don't forget they explicitly state Corneria is the 4th planet of the Lylat System (in both the SNES and N64 continuities), if that's relative to Solar (which is ostensibly a planet in some appearances), then the maps are woefully misleading, if it's relative to an as-of-yet unvisited star called Lylat, then there is no frame of reference to it's position. In the SNES continuity, they explicitly state the order of the planets in the manual, but the map is broken down into sections representing each. I think we can safely assume Star Fox 64 just dropped the frame and kept the planets at a non-relative position to each other.
28th Jul '15 10:02:35 PM Nyperold
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* How do the locals shop at the Thorntail Store? Even Tricky never enters. The Lightfoots (Lightfeet?) seem the most capable of patronizing it, though they'd probably end up trying to force the Shopkeeper to play that minigame, only to give up on account of teleportation. Anyway, it seems like 100% of business comes from Fox.
13th May '15 5:21:37 AM rjd1922
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** He's confirmed to be some form of ape. His appearance seems to be based of Dr. Zaius from Planet Of The Apes, so yeah, he probably is an orangutang.

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** He's confirmed to be some form of ape. His appearance seems to be based of Dr. Zaius from Planet Of The Apes, so yeah, he probably is an orangutang.orangutan.
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