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*** They don't have a motivation for being evil, yes. They do, however, have no motivation for not being evil. Humans, and indeed a lot of animals, all possess some degree of empathy. The tentacles, presumably, don't. Therefore, they lack any reason to care about collateral damage or hurting people, making them motivated solely by the desire to fix Octavius' machine. They are evil by virtue of being perfectly willing to do 'anything' to complete their goal.

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* So, the reason the spell is messed up is because Peter wants his friends to remember that he was Spider-Man, and insists on that in the middle of the spell. Wouldn't it be easier to just let Dr. Strange cast the spell normally, then tell his friends that he's Spider-Man later?

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** Presumably they remember having had dealings with Spider-Man, but in their recollections, the superhero never revealed his SecretIdentity to them.
* So, the reason the spell is messed up is because Peter wants his friends to remember that he hie was Spider-Man, and insists on that in the middle of the spell. Wouldn't it be easier to just let Dr. Strange cast the spell normally, then tell his friends that he's Spider-Man later?
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* For some reasons, Happy is the only Stark Industries employee ever appearing, and while he is far from being a top executive, he seemed to be under a lot of scrutiny from the law. Did Pepper abandon her job as CEO after Endgame to focus on raising Morgan? If so, who is Stark Industries new big boss?
** There's a good chance she left her job after Infinity War. She and Tony were already living a very secluded life during the Blip, and it's incredibly unlikely that she just returned to the job after Endgame. As for who is in charge now, who knows. If it's relevant to know it'll probably be revealed during Ironheart.

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* For some reasons, Happy is the only Stark Industries employee ever appearing, and while he is far from being a top executive, he seemed to be under a lot of scrutiny from the law. Did Pepper abandon her job as CEO after Endgame ''Endgame'' to focus on raising Morgan? If so, who is Stark Industries new big boss?
** There's a good chance she left her job after Infinity War. ''Infinity War''. She and Tony were already living a very secluded life during the Blip, and it's incredibly unlikely that she just returned to the job after Endgame. ''Endgame''. As for who is in charge now, who knows. knows? If it's relevant to know know, it'll probably be revealed during Ironheart.''Ironheart''.



** Given how divisive many of the Earth heroes are to the public, them voicing support could have done more harm than good. Besides, the charges against Peter were dropped, the rest was a PR problem and personal issues that none of them could have done much for him about.
** And who will vouch for him, exactly? Superheroes will not do just because of their shared hobby, they need to know him to confirm that he's a good guy. Captain Marvel, for example, can not do it: what if he ''did'' kill Mysterio as the press says? It wouldn't be the first hero who kills, Ronin and Punisher have already been in that path. So, who interacted with him for at least a sustained amount of time? Iron Man, who is dead. Nick Fury, who was actually a Skrull. Dr. Strange, already in the film. The Guardians of the Galaxy, in space. And if "Team Iron Man" counts, Black Widow is dead in Vormir, Black Panther might have already passed away, original Vision was killed by Thanos, Theseus Vision is MIA, and War Machine is on military missions and perhaps did not even notice.

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** Given how divisive many of the Earth heroes are to the public, them voicing support could have done more harm than good. Besides, the charges against Peter were dropped, the rest was a PR problem and personal issues that none of them could have done much about for him about.him.
** And who will vouch for him, exactly? Superheroes will not do just because of their shared hobby, they need to know him Peter to confirm that he's a good guy. Captain Marvel, for example, can not do it: what if he ''did'' kill Mysterio as the press says? It wouldn't be the first hero who kills, Ronin and Punisher have already been in on that path. So, who interacted with him for at least a sustained amount of time? Iron Man, who is dead. Nick Fury, who was actually a Skrull. Dr. Strange, already in the film. The Guardians of the Galaxy, in space. And if "Team Iron Man" counts, Black Widow is dead in Vormir, Black Panther might have already passed away, original Vision was killed by Thanos, Theseus Vision is MIA, and War Machine is on military missions and perhaps did not even notice.



** Beyond serving as character witnesses, there's really nothing the other Avengers can do, since none of them were there to witness the events. Sam seems like he'd definitely give a speech in support of Peter's character, but he didn't see Spider-Man murder or not murder Mysterio, so he can't say that he knows Peter didn't do it, only that he ''believes'' he wouldn't. Words of support from people like Sam Wilson and Bruce Banner might be why public opinion on Spider-Man is pretty split, with some believing he's okay because the Avengers say so, some believing of course the Avengers would say he's okay because they're all screwed up and stick together to hide it. It wasn't mentioned in the film due to a combination of difficulty and expense getting the actors in for glorified cameos and it just not being relevant because it doesn't really impact the central problem.
** Honestly, this is a problem in nearly ''every'' MCU film. There are many superpowered characters, and they have many reasons to get involved in each other's business. But playing that realistically would be bad on multiple levels. For one thing you'd slowly get into a mode where every movie has basically the same cast of characters, which would get repetitive and would also throw off all the narrative arcs you want to craft. It would also get stupidly expensive. So we're left to assume that most of the time most of the other heroes are just busy with something offscreen.

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** Beyond serving as character witnesses, there's really nothing the other Avengers can do, since none of them were there to witness the events. Sam seems like he'd definitely give a speech in support of Peter's character, but he didn't see Spider-Man murder or not murder Mysterio, so he can't say that he knows Peter didn't do it, only that he ''believes'' he wouldn't. Words of support from people like Sam Wilson and Bruce Banner might be why public opinion on Spider-Man is pretty split, with some believing he's okay because the Avengers say so, some believing of course the Avengers would say he's okay because they're all screwed up and stick together to hide it. It wasn't mentioned in the film due to a combination of difficulty and expense getting the actors in for glorified cameos cameos, and it just not being relevant because it doesn't really impact the central problem.
** Honestly, this is a problem in nearly ''every'' MCU film. There are many superpowered characters, and they have many reasons to get involved in each other's business. But playing that realistically would be bad on multiple levels. For one thing thing, you'd slowly get into a mode where every movie has basically the same cast of characters, which would get repetitive and would also throw off all the narrative arcs you want to craft. It would also get stupidly expensive. So we're left to assume that most of the time time, most of the other heroes are just busy with something offscreen.

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*** So would that be the doing of the version of Venom from Spiderman 3?

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*** So would that be the doing of the version of Venom from Spiderman 3? ''Film/SpiderMan3''?
*** Possibly, but it could theoretically be any version of Venom throughout all the different Marvel continuities and adaptations.
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*** So would that be the doing of the version of Venom from Spiderman 3?

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* Why is it that Spider-Man's detractors seem to forget that Peter gave his life fighting Thanos in "Infinity War" and was there and helped to save the universe in "Endgame". Are people that ungrateful?
** You're assuming the average citizen knows that battle on another planet even happened, let alone that Spider-Man was involved. Plus, Peter didn't give his life. He was simply one of the half of life that got killed by Thanos' use of the Infinity Stones. Those detractors of Spider-Man may also argue past good deeds don't negate bad things he supposedly is doing now.

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* Why is it that Spider-Man's detractors seem to forget that Peter gave his life fighting fought Thanos in "Infinity War" and was there and helped to save the universe in "Endgame". Are people that ungrateful?
** You're assuming the average citizen knows that battle on another planet even happened, let alone that Spider-Man was involved. Plus, Peter didn't give his life. He was simply one of the half of life that got killed by Thanos' use of the Infinity Stones. Those detractors of Spider-Man may also argue past good deeds don't negate bad things he supposedly is doing now.



*** Just wanted to mention that yeah it was an error to write that he gave his life. more accurately he fought against an incredible threat that he could have died against to save everyone.
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*** Apparently, it does as everyone remembers Spider-Man with Happy going so far as to recall his adventures with him but they forgot Peter. Logically, the spell would have worked fine the other way around.
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*** Just wanted to mention that yeah it was an error to write that he gave his life. more accurately he fought against an incredible threat that he could have died against to save everyone.
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* So the spell gets ruined because Peter keeps thinking of people he'd rather know who he is, and that distracts Strange. These are supposed to be intelligent people. Why not let the spell take effect, and then let Peter take his dear, sweet time revealing his identity/alter ego to whoever he wants to after? Do you mean NEITHER Peter nor Strange thought of this? I guess all tension and conflict would have been over too quickly if that were the case...
** Peter expressly notes that his aunt finding out his identity caused a lot of turmoil and while he wants her to know his identity he also doesn't want to go through the reveal again. He also just plain seemed to not like the idea of messing with his friends memories, and those feelings/thoughts interfered with the spell.
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** Peter expressly notes that his aunt finding out his identity caused a lot of turmoil and while he wants her to know his identity he also doesn't want to got hrough the reveal again. He also just plain seemed to not like the idea of messing with his friends memories, and those feelings/thoughts interfered with the spell.

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** Peter expressly notes that his aunt finding out his identity caused a lot of turmoil and while he wants her to know his identity he also doesn't want to got hrough go through the reveal again. He also just plain seemed to not like the idea of messing with his friends memories, and those feelings/thoughts interfered with the spell.
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** Peter expressly notes that his aunt finding out his identity caused a lot of turmoil and while he wants her to know his identity he also doesn't want to got hrough the reveal again. He also just plain seemed to not like the idea of messing with his friends memories, and those feelings/thoughts interfered with the spell.
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* So the spell gets ruined because Peter keeps thinking of people he'd rather know who he is, and that distracts Strange. These are supposed to be intelligent people. Why not let the spell take effect, and then let Peter take his dear, sweet time revealing his identity/alter ego to whoever he wants to after? Do you mean NEITHER Peter nor Strange thought of this? I guess all tension and conflict would have been over too quickly if that were the case...
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* Green Goblin lays low within Norman Osborn as Peter Parker tries to cure the villains. Inevitably, Green Goblin breaks loose and incites his villains to turn against Peter Parker and wreak havoc across New York. But this plan does not seem to take into account the Box that would send them home to die which was currently with MJ and Ned. The villains initially played along because it was either that or dying but they do not seem to make any effort to find the Box until Peter Parker used it to lure them to the Statue of Liberty. Shouldn't the villains realize that if anything happens to Peter Parker, his friends would just use the Box to send them home to die?

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** At one point in time he thought Garfield Spider-man was black. Not that he found it out the moment Garfield unmasked in this film.
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* How did Electro know Spider-Man’s identity but not know that he isn’t black?
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** Given the sheer variety in the variants it's entirely possible that the MCU Norman has a different name, heck Tony could have been Norman's counterpart.

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** Given the sheer variety in the variants it's entirely possible that the MCU Norman has a different name, heck Tony Stark (or even Howard) could have been Norman's counterpart.
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*** Yeah they fixed his morality, but he still has the instincts of a supervillain. He's sneaky, deceptive and cunning, and he makes tracks when he sees cops. Remember Superior Spider-Man? Good Doc Ock is still Doc Ock.

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