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** At one point during their fight, Thorn tells the bodyguard that hitting a cop will get him "life in a waste disposal plant, in a Soylent factory someplace". This implies that said waste disposal plants and factories are, in fact, partly being used as prisons as well, meaning that a certain number of those who work there are likely criminals serving out such a life sentence that Thorn threatens the bodyguard with and who ''can't leave'' that factory. If this is the case, they'd probably be the ones responsible for overseeing the part of the chain that involves all the bodies being ground up and processed since they're not exactly going anywhere to be able to tell anyone.
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** YMMV on that last point. He probably just wanted to know exactly what was going to happen to Sol's body. It's implied that during their final conversation, Sol told Thorn about what the "exchange" had told him: that Soylent Green ''couldn't'' have been made out of algae or sealife. So now Thorn knows that a man on the board for the Soylent Corporation was murdered likely to keep him quiet about something, said board member had made a confession to a priest that appeared to drive said priest insane, whoever was behind the murder has numerous assassins available and is clearly very rich (which would limit the suspect pool hugely), his boss is being pressured by someone who again is clearly very high up to cover up the case, and now his oldest friend and surrogate father-figure has given up completely upon finding out that Soylent Green isn't made of what everyone thinks it's made of. At that point, it's clear that Soylent (at the very least) is attempting to cover up something huge and it very likely went right up to the governor; Thorn was likely wondering what else was being lied about - they all clearly think that farming is still a viable option so it's likely they've been told that dead bodies are taken away to be used for fertiliser or something. It's also possible that, given all the little bits of information he had, he was starting to (at least subconsciously) put it all together even before seeing what was happening to the bodies and wanted to prove to himself that he was right/wrong.
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** Perhaps Thorn didn't figure out the secret of Soylent Green directly. Learning that the ocean itself is depleted, he and the other books probably put two and two together, and realized there was only one source of biological nutrient left in abundnace.
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*** Well at that point, no one was actually actively encouraging pregnancy and then rearing children for the ''specific purpose'' of being eaten (as far as we know). From all appearances, at that moment in time the Soylent Green operation is just taking advantage of an abundance of death that naturally already exists rather than actively causing a birth-fattening up-death-food cycle, but it's a relatively short leap to make especially with the euthanasia clinics. Thus "next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food" is a fairly understandable conclusion to reach. As for what those "cattle" would be fed? Presumably it would just be more of the same, even if word gets out about what Soylent Green is. It's a flat choice between cannibalism and starvation in what's already a CrapsackWorld - I don't think too many people in the grand scheme of things would be that hung up on the morality of where their food comes from, and if they ''do'' get hung up on it? They just become food a little sooner than the next person.
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** It's also worth considering the potential consequences of all this. After all, there's very little (practically nothing, in fact) to stop the government from taking the jump from just using people who were already dead to, when the food situation inevitably gets worse, actively hunting for people to become the new Soylent Green - anyone found outside after curfew or anyone who gets caught in the scoopers, for example.
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** He probably knew Thorn wouldn't have believed him if he just told him - it's not something you would really want to believe, after all. He was applying for suicide, and Thorn, in a desperate desire to ignore the truth, would probably have passed it off as a delusion of mental illness. But by giving him a little hint, a nudge nd a hook to keep him interested, he managed to get Thorn to see the truth for himself.
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** He probably knew Thorn wouldn't have believed him if he just told him - it's not something you would really want to believe, after all. He was applying for suicide, and Thorn, in a desperate desire to ignore the truth, would probably have passed it off as a delusion of mental illness. But by giving him a little hint, a nudge nd and a hook to keep him interested, he managed to get Thorn to see the truth for himself.
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** One person's job is to collect bodies and dump them in a truck. The next person is hired to drive them all to a building and dump them in a chute (that could even be two separate jobs). Yet another person shows up at the factory at pushes buttons. The only part that had to be kept secret is the part where recognizable human bodies are turned to mush, everyone else shows up at a building completely unaware that other people with different jobs show up there too.
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** Its unethical in the sense that it violates the taboo of cannibalism that most modern societies have, and of course that theyre feeding people other humans without telling them. It isnt OBJECTIVELY unethical, since there is literally nothing else to feed them, but from a social point of view, it is unethical.
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*** In the movie {{Cube}}, one of the cast mentions that nobody knew anything much about what was really going on. They signed things, shipped things, and collected paychecks. This is similar... anybody who asked got fired, anybody who got too close got shot, and most people didn't care and a job's a job.
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*** In the movie {{Cube}}, Film/{{Cube}}, one of the cast mentions that nobody knew anything much about what was really going on. They signed things, shipped things, and collected paychecks. This is similar... anybody who asked got fired, anybody who got too close got shot, and most people didn't care and a job's a job.
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*** There IS still some arable land and food production in the countryside, its just limited to the rich, which is why Thorn realizes that there is no way a bodyguard could afford strawberry jam. The food production that still exists isnt enough to feed more than maybe a few thousand, presumably.
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* This is going to sound callous (and technically ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch), but what's actually unethical about Soylent Green? People in the assisted suicide place do choose to die. It's gross, and possibly will lead to epidemics of prion disease, but is it wrong? Shouldn't it be kinda less wrong, seeing as animals don't volunteer to be slaughtered?
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* This is going to sound callous (and technically ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch), callous, but what's actually unethical about Soylent Green? People in the assisted suicide place do choose to die. It's gross, and possibly will lead to epidemics of prion disease, but is it wrong? Shouldn't it be kinda less wrong, seeing as animals don't volunteer to be slaughtered?
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** The riot scoopers were supposed to move people, not hurt them. They're more of a deterrent. It's like complaining about why rubber bullets doing kill you.
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** The riot scoopers were supposed to move people, not hurt them. They're more of a deterrent. It's like complaining about why rubber bullets doing don't kill you.
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*** In the movie {{Cube}}, one of the cast mentions that nobody knew anything much about what was really going on. They signed things, shipped things, and collected paychecks. This is similar... anybody who asked got fired, anybody who got too close got shot, and most people didn't care and a job's a job.
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** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanically_separated_meat No]]. When you've done enough to meat, it doesn't look much like meat. The stores go to some trouble to shape it like it's meat but now nobody cares; they just want to eat.
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* Shouldn't the riot police people scoopers move.. i dunno... FASTER? The people could just hop right off at the rate those things run.
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* Shouldn't the riot police people scoopers move.. i I dunno... FASTER? The people could just hop right off at the rate those things run.
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*** Lack of fuel? Current cars reach maximum efficiency at 60 mph or 100 kmph.
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** Sometimes you have to accept it's a film, and they did their best. There was no CGI when this was made, dummies or fast-motion would have looked fake, and the stunt was probably already pretty dangerous even at the slow speed they used.
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** But isn't negated by the whole "soylent green is people" thing? The point of the twist is that there ''isn't'' another food source. There aren't giant tracts of land or sea where humanity's food is being grown, Soylent Green is '''''it'''''. So if there aren't any other food sources, why are they keeping people inside the cities?
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** Perhaps that IS the point of the movie: the warning is only the latest note in an ongoing catastrophy. There are no good outcomes, only bad and worse.
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** Perhaps that IS the point of the movie: the warning is only the latest note in an ongoing catastrophy.catastrophe. There are no good outcomes, only bad and worse.
