History Headscratchers / SonicTheHedgeHog2006

29th Mar '17 10:15:27 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Amy has always had a habit of finding where Sonic is due to her [[StalkerWithACrush stalking]] him all the time. Elise, well, it's not like Sonic and Co. haven't met ghosts before, ([[VideoGames/SonicAdventure1 Tikal]]), so this may be a similar occurrence?

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** Amy has always had a habit of finding where Sonic is due to her [[StalkerWithACrush stalking]] him all the time. Elise, well, it's not like Sonic and Co. haven't met ghosts before, ([[VideoGames/SonicAdventure1 ([[VideoGame/SonicAdventure Tikal]]), so this may be a similar occurrence?
29th Mar '17 10:14:51 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Amy has always had a habit of finding where Sonic is due to her [[StalkerWithACrush stalking]] him all the time. Elise, well, it's not like Sonic and Co. haven't met ghosts before, ([[VideoGames/SonicAdventure Tikal]]), so this may be a similar occurrence?

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** Amy has always had a habit of finding where Sonic is due to her [[StalkerWithACrush stalking]] him all the time. Elise, well, it's not like Sonic and Co. haven't met ghosts before, ([[VideoGames/SonicAdventure ([[VideoGames/SonicAdventure1 Tikal]]), so this may be a similar occurrence?
29th Mar '17 10:11:42 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Eggman probably planned on using Mephiles to control time (same reason he wanted Iblis). I mean, he wanted to rule over ''all'' time. Not just have the ability to time travel, but constantly rule over the past, present, and future. And why does Eggman think he can control Mephiles? Simple, his [[SmallNameBigEgo ego]]. He thinks of himself as the greatest genius in the world, so what's to make him think he couldn't control Mephiles? And while it is true that dealing with SealdEvilInACan has been problematic in the past ([[SonicAdventureSeries Chaos]] for example), he may actually ''know'' [[TaughtByExperience what he's doing this time]].

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** Eggman probably planned on using Mephiles to control time (same reason he wanted Iblis). I mean, he wanted to rule over ''all'' time. Not just have the ability to time travel, but constantly rule over the past, present, and future. And why does Eggman think he can control Mephiles? Simple, his [[SmallNameBigEgo ego]]. He thinks of himself as the greatest genius in the world, so what's to make him think he couldn't control Mephiles? And while it is true that dealing with SealdEvilInACan SealedEvilInACan has been problematic in the past ([[SonicAdventureSeries Chaos]] for example), he may actually ''know'' [[TaughtByExperience what he's doing this time]].



*** If nothing else, he gets more manpower for hunting Chaos Emeralds, keeps one of the few who actually knows about his plans quiet, and gets a front row seat to the inevitable confusion between the heroes over [[FaceHeelRevolvingDoor Shadow yet again being an antagonist]]. He doesn't really treat Shadow's alliance as anything more than a nice bonus, after all, and was probably just taken off guard by his offer being rejected so quickly.

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*** If nothing else, he gets more manpower for hunting Chaos Emeralds, keeps one of the few who actually knows about his plans quiet, and gets a front row seat to the inevitable confusion between the heroes over [[FaceHeelRevolvingDoor [[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor Shadow yet again being an antagonist]]. He doesn't really treat Shadow's alliance as anything more than a nice bonus, after all, and was probably just taken off guard by his offer being rejected so quickly.
18th Feb '17 8:24:35 PM Chimanruler15
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* This has bothering me for a while. How exactly does Eggman come to the conclusion that Elise can somehow help him revive the Flames of Disaster? Silver's the only one who knows how Iblis can be released and reunited with Mephiles and that Elise is the vessel for Iblis. Eggman says that he researched the Solaris Project Incident, but the only useful information he would get from that is that Solaris was originally a flame that was entrusted to the Royal Family but was then experimented on by the Duke before splitting into two different entities. None of the information from the Solaris Project would have even hinted at Elise's being useful for Eggman's plans. She was only seven years old at the time and most likely had no involvement with her father's experiments, not to mention that she wouldn't have understood them. She doesn't even remember much from that incident, so what made Eggman think that she could be useful? Was there something I missed?

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* This has bothering me for a while. How exactly does Eggman come to the conclusion that Elise can somehow help him revive the Flames of Disaster? Silver's the only one who knows how Iblis can be released and reunited with Mephiles and that Elise is the vessel for Iblis. Eggman says that he researched the Solaris Project Incident, but the only useful information he would get from that is that Solaris was originally a flame that was entrusted to the Royal Family but was then experimented on by the Duke before splitting into two different entities. None of the information from the Solaris Project would have even hinted at Elise's being useful for Eggman's plans. She was only seven years old at the time and most likely had no involvement with her father's experiments, not to mention that she wouldn't have understood them. She doesn't even remember much from that incident, so what made Eggman think that she could be useful? Was there something I missed?useful?
18th Feb '17 7:43:13 PM Chimanruler15
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** There is one possible explanation for Mephiles's forgoing merging with Iblis in the future. As shown in Silver's story, Elise's death causes the release of Iblis. However, Mephiles doesn't join with Iblis for 200 years, despite the latter's release. One explanation for this is that Elise needs to cry not only to release Iblis but ''also'' to allow Mephiles to merge with Iblis. After all, the plot does state that Elise must cry in order for Solaris to be a thing again, although it admittedly doesn't emphasize this enough. Since Elise never cried up until the point where she died on board Eggman's ship, the seal was never broken, so Mephiles was stuck with an Iblis that he couldn't transform with. Still, I have to wonder exactly ''why'' Mephiles didn't just go back in time and kill Elise as soon as she bonded with Sonic. He clearly didn't need Silver to do it, and he knew exactly what to do from the beginning.



** Two reasons. One, because taking Iblis to a seperate world/dimension/''whatever'' removes him from Silver's world, thus giving it a chance to recover, and two, because obviously this game didn't have enough EpilepticTree-spawning events already.

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** Two reasons. One, because taking Iblis to a seperate separate world/dimension/''whatever'' removes him from Silver's world, thus giving it a chance to recover, and two, because obviously this game didn't have enough EpilepticTree-spawning events already.


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* This has bothering me for a while. How exactly does Eggman come to the conclusion that Elise can somehow help him revive the Flames of Disaster? Silver's the only one who knows how Iblis can be released and reunited with Mephiles and that Elise is the vessel for Iblis. Eggman says that he researched the Solaris Project Incident, but the only useful information he would get from that is that Solaris was originally a flame that was entrusted to the Royal Family but was then experimented on by the Duke before splitting into two different entities. None of the information from the Solaris Project would have even hinted at Elise's being useful for Eggman's plans. She was only seven years old at the time and most likely had no involvement with her father's experiments, not to mention that she wouldn't have understood them. She doesn't even remember much from that incident, so what made Eggman think that she could be useful? Was there something I missed?
15th Feb '17 8:40:49 AM Vanada
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** It's just an ability she has in this game, albeit out of line compared to her earlier appearances. The ability itself, however, is only about as questionable as how Knuckles is able to glide.
28th Aug '16 3:51:51 AM Thomasfan
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** Probably just to keep everyone else guessing. Mephiles was Solaris's rage personified; it didn't matter how/when he accomplished his goals, so long as he can make people suffer while doing it. The more suffering, the better.



** Probably just to keep everyone else guessing. Mephiles was Solaris's rage personified; it didn't matter how/when he accomplished his goals, so long as he can make people suffer while doing it. The more suffering, the better.
15th Aug '16 12:44:11 PM Tangocow
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* How can Amy turn invisible by "concentrating her energy", and why does she never show any interest in doing it after this game?
24th Jul '16 2:52:02 PM Dephlogisticate
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** Probably just to keep everyone else guessing. Mephiles was Solaris's rage personified; it didn't matter how/when he accomplished his goals, so long as he can make people suffer while doing it. The more suffering, the better.
28th Jun '16 8:59:55 PM costanton11
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* What kind of monarchy is Soleanna? At one point, Rouge refers to Elise as "Princess Elise III". The fact that her title is princess with a regal number would suggest that it is a principality. However, her father is referred to as the Duke of Soleanna, which would suggest that it is a Duchy, which ranks higher than a principality. Was the country demoted in status after his death?

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* What kind of monarchy is Soleanna? At one point, Rouge refers to Elise as "Princess Elise III". The fact that her title is princess with a regal regnal number would suggest that it is a principality. However, her father is referred to as the Duke of Soleanna, which would suggest that it is a Duchy, which ranks higher than a principality. Was the country demoted in status after his death?
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