History Headscratchers / Skyfall

3rd May '17 8:28:39 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Most likely, someone somewhere just got careless. As someone mentioned under a different folder above, there's been a surprisingly large number of security leaks from the British government which basically revolved around someone leaving files which you'd expect should be under much tighter security basically just lying around. Any security system is ultimately as good as the people using it, the people using it are ultimately human, and they sometimes goof up in quite disastrous ways.
3rd May '17 8:19:13 AM DoctorNemesis
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*** The location in the movie is probably a fictionalised version of the two examples mentioned above; as in, the island itself doesn't actually exist, but is based on and shot using one of the real world versions.
1st May '17 8:06:05 PM finalfaw
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[[folder: The One List]]
* It occoured to me watching this, but, the list, why is the full list on an encrypted HDD? from what I would have guessed (other films and books and games and such of a similar setting helped me summise this) that a list that important would not be in one kind of place or HDD, it would more likey be that the list would be split in many many ways as well as encrypted, several examples would include, the coding being split into multiple HDD, meaning the program wouldnt work unless you had all the HDDs or something, or the list itself was split up, like the first names, last names, assumed first, assumed last and the orginazation they have infiltrated all split up, and only making a lick of sense when you have ALL the HDD, kinda like a virtual jigsaw, no one object, no matter how encrypted should have that much ammo to protentially destroy all work.
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30th Mar '17 11:02:07 AM VoxTheHero
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*** Isn't it already established that Brosnan-era Dench!M and Craig-era Dench!M are two different people anyway? Even here on TVTropes we list Dench!M as two different people, the one who loathes Cold War relics and the one who misses the Cold War. Their personalities are a little different from each other as well.
24th Feb '17 2:38:02 PM Statzkeen
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** It's not that they don't have the resources, it's that if they blindly killed everyone listed they'd mostly being offing their own people.
24th Jan '17 9:18:55 PM DoctorNemesis
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** Probably because (a) for better worse it's probably better remembered than some of the other examples and (b) it's an example of the kind of 'out-there' gadget which is typically associated with Film/JamesBond while still being grounded enough to fit in with the more down-to-earth and gritty atmosphere of the Daniel Craig Bond movies. It's a bit hard to imagine the Q Branch of ''Film/CasinoRoyale2006'' and ''Film/QuantumOfSolace'' developing [[Film/DieAnotherDay an invisible car]], after all.
22nd Jan '17 12:41:57 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Police uniforms are hardly as rare as uncut diamonds or secured 24/7 under the tightest and most impenetrable possible security. There are places online where you can buy pretty convincing replicas. Alternatively, I hardly think it's beyond the capabilities of a man hacking into MI6 on a regular basis to arrange for some henchmen to sneak into a police station and sneak away with some uniforms and a car.

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** Police uniforms are hardly as rare as uncut diamonds or secured 24/7 under the tightest and most impenetrable possible security. There are places online where you can buy pretty convincing replicas. Alternatively, I hardly think it's beyond the capabilities of a man hacking into MI6 on a regular basis to order some convincing police uniforms from a supplier under false pretences or to arrange for some henchmen to sneak undercover into a police station and sneak away with some uniforms and steal a car.
22nd Jan '17 12:36:09 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Police uniforms are hardly as rare as uncut diamonds or secured 24/7 under the tightest and most impenetrable possible security. There are places online where you can buy pretty convincing replicas. Alternatively, I hardly think it's beyond the capabilities of a man hacking into MI6 on a regular basis to arrange for some henchmen to sneak into a police station and sneak away with some uniforms and a car.
16th Jan '17 1:55:48 PM dcutter2
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[[folder:Pen Jokes]]
*Why pick on the poor pen? It's from one of Brosnan's best films and is a pretty sane gadget all things considered.
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17th Oct '16 12:44:55 PM dmcreif
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*** I guess that's possible, but it seems to violate the LawOfConservationOfDetail that Silva would arrange an unrelated assassination during his grand scheme. He owned a casino and could pretty much rape any secure computer system he wanted, so it seems bizarre to go off on an errand like that for money.
*** With that accounted for, it could be entirely a setup -- Silva hires Patrice, either giving him the ridiculously distinctive bullets and using him for a couple other assassinations or picking him on the basis of his highly identifiable signature bullets, specifically so MI-6 will have a trail for what they dig out of Bond (or what Bond digs out of himself as the case may be). The job in Shanghai is a setup exposed enough for Bond to have easy access to it and to pick up on the trail Silva's leaving (as well as to be struck by Severine from afar) but discreet enough that he'll readily think it's all been their own idea.

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*** I guess that's possible, but **That's possible. But it seems to violate the LawOfConservationOfDetail that Silva would arrange an unrelated assassination during his grand scheme. He owned a casino and could pretty much rape hijack any secure computer system he wanted, so it seems bizarre to go off on an errand like that for money.
*** With that accounted for, it could be entirely **It's probably a setup -- setup. Silva hires Patrice, either giving him the ridiculously distinctive bullets and using him for a couple other assassinations assassinations, or picking him on the basis of his highly identifiable signature bullets, specifically so MI-6 [=MI6=] will have a trail for what they dig out of Bond (or what Bond digs out of himself as the case may be). The job in Shanghai is a setup setup, exposed enough for Bond to have easy access to it it, and to pick up on the trail Silva's Silva is leaving (as well as to be struck noticed by Severine from afar) but discreet enough that he'll readily think it's it had all been their own idea.
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