History Headscratchers / SinCity

2nd May '16 5:29:02 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* How come Hartigan is seen as a WhiteKnight FairCop when he was about to murder somebody in cold blood and is partner Bob was considered a BigBadFriend for stopping him. He probably saved both their lives by doing so because the target was still human and it is against the law to kill him. Plus he is part of a very wheal connected family and the cops had been specifically been given orders not to kill him. Did Hartigann think that he could just kill him and retire peacefully? By non-fatally shooting him Bob probably saved both their lives and definitely his place on the police force.

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* How come Hartigan is seen as a WhiteKnight KnightInShiningArmor FairCop when he was about to murder somebody in cold blood and is partner Bob was considered a BigBadFriend for stopping him. He probably saved both their lives by doing so because the target was still human and it is against the law to kill him. Plus he is part of a very wheal connected family and the cops had been specifically been given orders not to kill him. Did Hartigann think that he could just kill him and retire peacefully? By non-fatally shooting him Bob probably saved both their lives and definitely his place on the police force.
14th Apr '16 3:34:42 PM fearlessnikki
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** And Hartigan is a little too noble for his own good. He only believes Nancy wrote him letters to be polite at first, not copping on that she was actually in love with him. In his mind, he's leaving Nancy free to live her life and not be saddled with an old man like him.




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** Goldie is only the seventh girl to get killed, and the deaths of the others aren't confirmed until Marv sees their heads mounted on Kevin's wall. Up until that point, the girls are only missing. So the first bunch are easily picked off while walking home or just being out alone. It's said that Goldie kept to public places where she knew it would be hard to catch her. And she only knows because she might have heard something while working the Clergy. The other six could have just been thought to have skipped town, depending on the gap between the kidnappings. The other girls only seem to have been on the case after Goldie was found dead, since she's the first confirmed death. So Kevin has plenty of opportunities to pick them off.




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** So Eileen was around mid 30s at the time Hartigan was put in jail. During which eight years is enough time to have three children. She could have had twins too.


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** Possibly just a stylistic choice. The movie ''{{Film/Rope}}'' uses something similar when the VillainProtagonist is on the verge of being found out. The street lights outside flash different colours. It could be a psychological thing, to show that Dwight is unnerved by Jackie Boy's death. At no other point in the movie does the lighting flash like that.
2nd Feb '16 7:41:16 PM Jakepr26
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***Kevin may have hated Junior, and may have never chosen to aid him. However, this does not explain why he chose to remain on the sidelines while Hartigan attacked the farm. There was no way for him to know who the assailant was or why he was attacking. Junior believed Hartigan was dead after leaving him swinging in a noose from the motel room ceiling fan, so even if he talked to Kevin when he got back to the farm, warning Kevin about Haritgan wouldn't make any sense. The only reasonable explanation is a nostalgic plothole by Frank Miller, who'd created the single frame in the comic book as an easter to his diehards fans to let them know it was the same farm Marv blew up when he killed Kevin in the first book.




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* Hartigan was receiving letters from a Cordelia. Roark wanted Hartigan broken and beaten, so it makes sense he'd allow Hartigan to receive the letters for so long, then stop them. It was a blessing in disguise for Roark. Maybe he knew Cordelia was, and maybe he didn't. That's immaterial. As Junior said in the motel room, Hartigan was going to die knowing Nancy was being raped and shredded by Junior because Hartigan led Junior straight to her. But it was The Yellow Bastard Part II was never about Junior partying with Nancy, it was about Junior getting his revenge on Hartigan for shooting off his hand and pecker, and putting him into a coma. Senior wanted Junior to produce an heir, so he had the appropriate procedures performed to make Junior fertile again, but left his more disfigured than before. Following Hartigan to Nancy, then leaving him to die while Junior took her to have a party was the ultimate revenge for Junior. I'd argue Junior would've done what he did to Nancy to any gal Hartigan showed the slightest amount of interest in.
12th Aug '15 5:50:44 AM FlashSteps
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* What's with the lighting during the scene QT directed, with Jackie Boy's corpse taunting Dwight? It randomly goes from blue, to green, to red, to yellow. Admittedly a motorcycle cop pulls up at one point but his lights are only blue and red and the lighting happens both before and after his bike can be casting light on the interior of the car. Is it symbolism? Dwight's paranoia? What gives?[[/note]]

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* What's with the lighting during the scene QT directed, with Jackie Boy's corpse taunting Dwight? It randomly goes from blue, to green, to red, to yellow. Admittedly a motorcycle cop pulls up at one point but his lights are only blue and red and the lighting happens both before and after his bike can effectively be casting light on the interior of the car. Is it symbolism? Dwight's paranoia? What gives?[[/note]]
12th Aug '15 5:49:59 AM FlashSteps
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** AdaptationInducedPlotHole. It's supposed to be sometime between ''That Yellow Bastard'' and ''The Hard Goodbye''. (Presumably right after ''The Long Bad Night'') The problem is that, judging from the framework of the story, Frank Miller forgot the chronology of his own series.[[note]]Which makes sense, considering the fact that the sequel was made almost a decade after the first movie. And that's not even going into the fact that the original novels were written ''in the '90s''.[[/note]]

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** AdaptationInducedPlotHole. It's supposed to be sometime between ''That Yellow Bastard'' and ''The Hard Goodbye''. (Presumably right after ''The Long Bad Night'') The problem is that, judging from the framework of the story, Frank Miller forgot the chronology of his own series.[[note]]Which makes sense, considering the fact that the sequel was made almost a decade after the first movie. And that's not even going into the fact that the original novels were written ''in the '90s''.[[/note]]'90s''.
** Or? Hell, if Dwight can get that level of plastic surgery, and Marv and Hartigan can heal from ''their'' wounds, removing a few facial cuts should be nothing for the doctors in this universe.
* What's with the lighting during the scene QT directed, with Jackie Boy's corpse taunting Dwight? It randomly goes from blue, to green, to red, to yellow. Admittedly a motorcycle cop pulls up at one point but his lights are only blue and red and the lighting happens both before and after his bike can be casting light on the interior of the car. Is it symbolism? Dwight's paranoia? What gives?[[/note]]
1st Aug '15 1:26:41 PM TwistedGrimm
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** AdaptationInducedPlotHole. It's supposed to be sometime between ''That Yellow Bastard'' and ''The Hard Goodbye''. (Presumably right after ''The Long Bad Night'') The problem is that, judging from the framework of the story, Frank Miller forgot the chronology of his own series.[[note]]Which makes sense, considering the fact that the sequel was made almost a decade after the first movie. And that's not even going into the fact that the original novels were written ''in the '90s''.[[/note]]
28th Jun '15 9:54:36 PM chardeemacdaily
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**** I guess Junior was too cocky to even come up with something to fall back on in case torture wasn't gonna be useful. Still it would have been ironic if when Junior got shanked, he starts screaming and that made him finally get it up.
29th May '15 1:38:11 PM lorgskyegon
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**** Pills like Viagra work by increasing blood flow. But here's the rub: if you're not sexually aroused in the first place, you still won't get it up. Since Junior can obviously only become aroused if the girl is screaming, he could take all the Viagra in the world and it still wouldn't help if she's quiet.
14th Apr '15 5:21:52 PM VoxTheHero
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* When does Nancy's Last Dance take place in the chronology? Marv is still alive and so it has to be before The Hard Goodbye, but Nancy's face is all scarred up and her hair's all shorn during Last Dance whereas she's as impeccable and perky as ever during Hard Goodbye.
3rd Oct '14 6:34:44 PM ClementJ64
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**** I was under the idea that Senator Roark didn't want to deal with raising another son that could possibly be more fucked up than Junior, who was also an entitled douchebag. Then again, maybe the Senator is only recognizing Junior as his own blood because Junior is just as corrupt as the Senator himself, in which he can mold and shape Junior as the figurehead to continue the Roark legacy. And you know how that turned out. I'm wishing that Miller had made supplementary manuals to clear up some of these questions.
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