History Headscratchers / ShrekForeverAfter

* Could Rumpel have adopted Fiona after he took over Far Far Away? That way, she would still have a claim to the throne (and yes, her name would be Princess Fiona Stiltskin, but still).

* Could Rumpel have adopted Fiona after he took over Far Far Away? That way, she would still have a claim to the throne (and yes, her name would be Princess Fiona Stiltskin, but still).

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** The rules of time/reality warping magic in the Shrek universe seem rather vague, and it's unknown exactly what the contract said, but given what Rumpel was trying to achieve, he most likely picked a magic contract that (when signed) gave him the freedom to alter the past in any way to ensure a specific outcome. If so, then he probably made it so Shrek was never conceived, effectively erasing the day he was born.

** If Rumpel was able to choose the exit clause, having it be True Love's Kiss was actually a smart move, considering it takes a long time (definitely longer than the amount of time Shrek had) to fully achieve. He also knew that Fiona, having never being rescued, and still being under her curse, would become disillusioned with true love and reject Shrek. This could also be a reason why he enslaved the ogre population; to further convince Fiona that true love and happily ever afters are myths, hardening her heart, and making it almost impossible for Shrek to win her over.

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* This was pointed out by Miraheze. Why Shrek went to the Dragon's Keep to check if Fiona was there if he had already seen "Wanted" posters of her on the forest? If a reward is offered for her head, then that is an indicator that Fiona is no longer at the tower.
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* Why Rumpel convinced Shrek to give him the day in which he met Donkey rather than the day he was born? If Shrek hadn't met Donkey, the fairy tales creatures would have still been send to his swamp, he would have gone alone to meet with Lord Farquaad, made the deal to rescue Fiona but ''end up killed by the Dragon''. And that's because it was thanks to Donkey that the Dragon got distracted and didn't realize that Shrek was escaping with Fiona until it was too late. In that way, Rumpel's plan would have still worked out perfectly...
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* Why when Shrek kissed Fiona before fading away and thus leading Fiona to stay as an ogre for getting the form of True Love, why Fiona didn't float and shined like in the original film when Shrek kissed her after the Dragon ate Farquaad?

* How the messenger who saved Harold and Lillian from signing Far Far Away to Rumpelstiltskin at the last moment knew that Fiona had been rescued? The only way to access to the castle and verify that Fiona had been rescued was by crossing the bridge, but the bridge was burned up by the Dragon when Shrek, Fiona and Donkey escaped. We can see that Prince Charming had to use a zipline to get into the castle in the second film, though that doesn't explain how the Big Bad Wolf got into the tower.

* First of all, how would alternate-universe Fiona know that her cousin was being bullied at Worcestershire? Putting that aside, we don't know that she didn't do anything to collect him from school; since he's also an heir, it's possible she recognized that Rumpel might target him and so is keeping him in hiding somewhere. The third film established that Artie isn't that adept at physical combat, so he's not of much use to the rebellion, and there'd be no reason for Fiona to mention him to Shrek since she has no reason to assume that Shrek knows about him or that he's significant in any way.

** The timelines began diverging from the very moment of Shrek's birth (or lack thereof). Rumpel taking over Far Far Away likely would have had a huge ripple effect Gingy's life since he's from Drury Lane. Heck, in this universe, Gingy very well could have been created solely to gladiator fight with animal crackers, never even meeting Farquaad.

** Very likely a simple case of [[TruthInTelevision prejudice winning out over reason]]. The townsfolk are socialised to hate ogres by their oppressive rulership, and this is deeply ingrained enough in them that it persists even against self-preservation. Bear in mind too that ogre-human relations are far more hostile in this universe than even that of the first movie. No one is going to hear the other side out here because the status quo is to kill/enslave on sight ([[CasualDangerDialogue as opposed to politely waiting for the punchline]]).

** Very likely a simple case of [[TruthInTelevision prejudice winning out over reason]]. The townsfolk are socialised to hate ogres by their oppressive rulership, and this is deeply ingrained enough in them that it persists even against logic or self-preservation. Bear in mind too that ogre-human relations are far more hostile in this universe than even that of the first movie. No one is going to hear the other side out here because the status quo is to kill/enslave on sight ([[CasualDangerDialogue as opposed to politely waiting for the punchline]]).

* Why Gingy doesn't have his legs glued with white glaze in the alternate universe? He got his legs broken while tortured by Lord Farquaad and while anyone could say that this was different because Shrek was never born, by the time Farquaad was torturing Gingy, Shrek had yet to intervene in Farquaad's schemes, so why Gingy has his legs unbroken in the alternate universe?

* Okay, I get that Fiona just got bored of waiting for her Prince Charming or some brave knight to rescue her from the Dragon's keep, so she eventually escaped from the tower on her own, and she likely realized later on that her parents had been vanished away by Rumpelstiltskin, thus allowing her to just focus on leading the Ogre Resistance to topple Rumpel's rule and restore Far Far Away into the precious kingdom it once was...but did Fiona forget that she had her cousin Artie Pendragon studying at Worcestershire Academy? Why she didn't go looking for her cousin to take care of him? Artie didn't have any more family aside Fiona and her parents, so it seems really cruel from Fiona's part leaving him at Worcestershire to be picked on by his peers while she solely focuses on defeating Rumpelstilstkin...

** Maybe, like the Fairy Godmother, Rumpel hated so-called “villains,” so he had them all banished them all and just abandoned the Poison Apple. As for the different Rumplestilskin, this troper likes to think he’s the Shrek 4 Rumpel’s father and when Rumpel became King, the Shrek 3 Rumpelstiltskin became King Father. Just a guess.

* Okay, I get that Fiona just got bored of waiting for her Prince Charming or some brave knight to rescue her from the Dragon's keep, so she eventually escaped from the tower on her own, and she likely realized later on that her parents had been vanished away by Rumpelstiltskin, thus allowing her to just focus on leading the Ogre Resistance to topple Rumpel's rule and restore Far Far Away into the precious kingdom it once was...but did Fiona forget that she had a cousin named Artie studying at Worcestershire Academy? Why she didn't go looking for her cousin to take care of him? Artie didn't have any more family aside Fiona and her parents, so it seems really cruel from Fiona's part leaving him at Worcestershire to be picked on by his peers while she solely focuses on defeating Rumpelstilstkin...

* Similarly like the question above, why there are no celebrities, including the princesses, in the alternate Far Far Away? Why especially Snow White, Cinderella and the Sleeping Beauty aren't seen living at the kingdom, if other Far Far AWay citizens like the baker are seen still living there?

** A. He's got reality-bending magic. B. Why ''would'' the witches attack him or rebel? They have it pretty cushy with him in charge.