History Headscratchers / ShaunOfTheDead

27th May '18 5:50:16 AM FlashSteps
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* How did they do the girl with a gaping hole (the one that is perforated with a pipe)? It's not just a wound - it's a ''hole'' - you can clearly see Shaun and Ed through it, could they even do that with CGI? It's a single shot, and her movement seem too fluid for a puppet, and the hole is right through her abdonement, so it doesn't look like a prop or make-up either. So, how did they do it?

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* How did they do the effect with the girl with a gaping hole (the one that is perforated with a pipe)? It's not just a wound - it's a ''hole'' - you can clearly see Shaun and Ed through it, could they even do that with CGI? It's a single shot, and her movement seem too fluid for a puppet, and the hole is right through her abdonement, so it doesn't look like a prop or make-up either. So, how did they do it?



* Why didn't that same pipe turn the zombie into a paraplegic? It looked like it went right through her spinal cord. It seems like a missed opportunity for a crawler in this tropers humble opinion.

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* Why didn't that same pipe turn the zombie into a paraplegic? It looked like it went right through her spinal cord. It seems like a missed opportunity for a crawler in this tropers my humble opinion.opinion.
** Writers can pick whatever rules they want for the biological effects of zombification. Conventionally, they can go with zombies being able to tank injuries which would cripple regular humans, or if they prefer they can take a more realistic approach. They went with the former here. This also has the effect of establishing clearly to the protagonists (and perhaps less GenreSavvy members of the audience) that this isn't just a shitfaced member of the public, or even someone on PCP (that wouldn't prevent paralysis as much as it can delay the effects of injury reaction) but an actual, card-carrying and unionised member of the undead.
27th May '18 5:38:51 AM FlashSteps
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*** Either way, was probably either dead (haha) easy to buy in the aftermath of a zombie apocalypse that would have significantly thinned out the population and thus left the real estate market in somewhat of a glut. Hell, that's assuming they even bothered to buy it, if whoever did own it got eaten and there were no immediate heirs to take over, Shaun may just keep living there without bothering to establish ownership. In the new world, possession of a home that no one else is contesting ownership of is probably 9/10ths of the law.

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*** Either way, it was probably either dead (haha) easy to buy in the aftermath of a zombie apocalypse that would have significantly thinned out the population and thus left the real estate market in somewhat of a glut. Hell, that's assuming they even bothered to buy it, if whoever did own it got eaten and there were no immediate heirs to take over, Shaun may just keep living there without bothering to establish ownership. In the new world, possession of a home that no one else is contesting ownership of is probably 9/10ths of the law.



*** Any number of things, really -- it got crashed into and wrecked in the chaos, it was nicked by some opportunistic car thieves who didn't mind tangling with the zombie in the back, or something similar to the explanation about the house above; post-apocalypse it was recovered by whatever authorities were in charge of that kind of thing (since someone would have to remove all the abandoned cars from the streets in order to clear them) and it would be easy to check who the owner was through the license plate), Zombie!Philip somehow removed from it and, since as heir Shaun is legally the rightful owner, returned to him to sell or keep however he pleased. For all we know it's sitting outside Shaun and Liz' house as they speak at the end.

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*** Any number of things, really -- it got crashed into and wrecked in the chaos, it was nicked by some opportunistic car thieves who didn't mind tangling with the zombie in the back, or something similar to the explanation about the house above; post-apocalypse it was recovered by whatever authorities were in charge of that kind of thing (since someone would have to remove all the abandoned cars from the streets in order to clear them) them and it would be easy to check who the owner was through the license plate), Zombie!Philip somehow removed from it and, since as heir Shaun is legally the rightful owner, returned to him to sell or keep however he pleased. For all we know it's sitting outside Shaun and Liz' house as they speak at the end.
27th May '18 5:32:48 AM FlashSteps
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** The film had lot's of visual and sound effects to establish the zombie mood leading up to the outbreak that may or may not have been actual evidence of anything yet. Mentioned above the zombie that knocked on the pub door may well have just been a drunk, the pidgeon eater may have just been a crazy homeless lady. This troper will attest that would hardly have been the weirdest thing they'd seen in London in RealLife

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** The film had lot's lots of visual and sound effects to establish the zombie mood leading up to the outbreak that may or may not have been actual evidence of anything yet. Mentioned above was the zombie that knocked on the pub door may well have just been a drunk, and so the pidgeon pigeon eater may have just been a crazy homeless lady. This troper I will attest that that would hardly have been the weirdest thing they'd I've seen in London in RealLifeRealLife.
27th May '18 5:29:53 AM FlashSteps
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** It's implied that it's Noel, the obnoxious assistant from Shaun's work, trying to score some weed. He speaks on the phone to a friend of his during work hours, mentioning that "I spoke to him; he ain't got nuffin'", (the conversation which prompts Shaun to upbraid him for personal conversations in work hours, only to receive a call from Liz). We know Ed "deals a bit of weed", and in that conversation outside the pub he repeats that he has "nuffin'". This troper is pretty sure that you can hear Noel's voice if you listen closely enough. [[spoiler:He turns up in the final TV montage as the zombie pushing trolleys in the supermarket car park.]]

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** It's implied that it's Noel, the obnoxious assistant from Shaun's work, trying to score some weed. He speaks on the phone to a friend of his during work hours, mentioning that "I spoke to him; he ain't got nuffin'", (the conversation which prompts Shaun to upbraid him for personal conversations in work hours, only to receive a call from Liz). We know Ed "deals a bit of weed", and in that conversation outside the pub he repeats that he has "nuffin'". This troper is I am pretty sure that you can hear Noel's voice if you listen closely enough. [[spoiler:He turns up in the final TV montage as the zombie pushing trolleys in the supermarket car park.]]
27th May '18 5:21:54 AM FlashSteps
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*** This Troper admits his negligence; I forgot about those details.

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*** This Troper admits his I admit my negligence; I forgot about those details.
27th May '18 5:20:48 AM FlashSteps
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** Did you see the TV Montage right before it? Clearly the government hasn't. And watch what happens when Shaun sits down to play: Ed leans over, as if to bite, Shaun scolds him, and Ed backs off immediately and goes back to playing the video game. As for what, or even if, he's feeding him? It's entirely possible, even probable, that the zombies don't ''only'' eat human meat, and for all we know it's not even necessary to feed him.

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** Did you see the TV Montage montage right before it? Clearly the government hasn't.hasn't passed such laws. And watch what happens when Shaun sits down to play: Ed leans over, as if to bite, Shaun scolds him, and Ed backs off immediately and goes back to playing the video game. As for what, or even if, he's feeding him? It's entirely possible, even probable, that the zombies don't ''only'' eat human meat, and for all we know it's not even necessary to feed him.
27th May '18 5:18:48 AM FlashSteps
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** Most people in Britain spell it 'Sean' anyway, this British troper has never met a 'Shawn', and only rarely a 'Shaun'. So maybe 'Shaun' is meant to be a halfway point: punny enough that the joke is obvious on the DVD cover, but British enough not to confuse people. Just seeing the cover of the film, I'd take a while to realise 'Shawn' was meant to be someone's name.

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** Most people in Britain spell it 'Sean' anyway, this I'm British troper has and have never met a 'Shawn', and only rarely a 'Shaun'. So maybe 'Shaun' is meant to be a halfway point: punny enough that the joke is obvious on the DVD cover, but British enough not to confuse people. Just seeing the cover of the film, I'd take a while to realise 'Shawn' was meant to be someone's name.


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25th May '18 7:29:45 PM Skyler575
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** I always thought she put 2 and 2 together that there was a fresh bouquet of flowers with a "To a wonderful Mum" card in the bin outside her son's favorite haunt on the day he was supposed to visit her

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** I always thought she put 2 and 2 together that there was a fresh bouquet of flowers with a "To a wonderful Mum" card in the bin outside her son's favorite haunt on the day he was supposed to visit herher.



* Why didn't that same pipe turn the zombie into a paraplegic? It looked like it went right through her spinal cord. It seems like a missed opportunity for a crawler in this tropers humble opinion

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* Why didn't that same pipe turn the zombie into a paraplegic? It looked like it went right through her spinal cord. It seems like a missed opportunity for a crawler in this tropers humble opinionopinion.
25th May '18 7:27:33 PM Skyler575
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** I always thought she put 2 and 2 together that there was a fresh bouquet of flowers with a "To a wonderful Mum" card in the bin outside her son's favorite haunt on the day he was supposed to visit her


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* Why didn't that same pipe turn the zombie into a paraplegic? It looked like it went right through her spinal cord. It seems like a missed opportunity for a crawler in this tropers humble opinion
25th May '18 6:32:09 AM DoctorNemesis
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** Also, we never see for certain that it ''is'' a zombie. Given that the first half of the movie makes a pretty big point of hammering home the message that "people in 21st century Britain might as well be zombies!", it could legitimately have ''been'' a drunk who was utterly paralytic.
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