History Headscratchers / ScottPilgrim

* Throughout the majority of his life, Scott was just unconsciously skipping from scene to scene, making everything blend in (which is empathised in the movie). Subspace is just that taken literally. If one were to stay in the present moment (leaving subspace) the magic would go away. While you are daydreaming, you are actually speeding through time.

* Throughout the majority of his life, Scott was just unconsciously skipping from scene to scene, making everything blend in (which is empathised in the movie). Subspace is just that taken literally. If one were to stay in the present moment (leaving subspace) the magic would go away.

* Throughout the majority of his life, Scott was just unconsciously skipping from scene to scene, making everything blend in (which is empathised in the movie). Subspace is just that taken literally. Thematically, the message here is to stay in the present moment.

* Throughout the majority of his life, Scott was just unconsciously skipping from scene to scene, making everything blend in (which is empathised in the movie). Subspace is just that taken literally.

* Throughout the majority of life, Scott was just unconsciously skipping from scene to scene, making everything blend in (which is empathised in the movie). Subspace is just that taken literally.

** They're indie musicians, you think they'd get a good job even if they had the qualifications? That would be selling out.

** That and only fight that could even begin to count as murder is Mathew Patel (Because he was a complete twit who didn't know what he was getting into and got the HP thoroughly beaten out of him). Lucas was death by misadventure (Not directly caused by Scott), Todd was self defence even if the Vegan Police stripped him of his power, Roxy had a sword so you can't call the No Self Defence rule there (You can't go to jail for being a pussy), the twins had kidnapped someone with intent to murder who came after them so that's a shaky one and finally Gideon himself outright [[spoiler:killed Scott]] so that one would count as self defence.
** Todd's death was outright murder. Self defence doesn't really fly, as Todd had just been rendered helpless. Scott actively went for the kill on the helpless Todd. It could have been justified if Todd was actually a danger, but at this point, he wasn't.

* Stephen Still's [[spoiler: coming out]] in Vol. 6. Just...seemed like such an AssPull. And with [[spoiler: Joseph]]? They've been working together, sure, but it doesn't make a lot of sense. [[spoiler: At least if this was done with Niel or someone who's been close to him for a long while, it'd be less of a problem.]]

** They hint at it at least twice, though. [[spoiler: Neil's "Captain Homo" comment]] in Book 5 and Knives laughing at Scott's question of whether or not she was dating Stephen.

* Gideon's plot in the book. I couldn't understand the parts with [[spoiler: the handbag being Ramona's soul, or how Gideon was in Ramona's head as he was fighting Scott, or the whole business of the glow and subspace he mentioned making a profit of.]] Can someone help me please?
** [[spoiler: Subspace allow someone to jump through subconscious to subconscious from dreaming (Either through sleep or lost in thought). When Ramona goes through the Subspace, she pays a price: Gideon can follow them wherever he goes and do whatever he wants (A fraction of the profits goes to Gideon), he used to mess around with Scott and his friend as well as stalk her when Scott started falling in love with Ramona. Ramona's handbag is the collective of her various personalities she had adopted to escape from her past, namely Gideon. The original Ramona who met Gideon could never leave that memory behind and it took Scott entering Ramona's mind to get him out of her head.]]
** I still don't understand it. [[spoiler:He explicitly mentions that whatever the heck he's doing traps people in their own heads. So how does this tie into dream-jumping? What does this mean for the books' story as perceived by the reader (or, simply, how much of the events of the books are real in-universe?)]] It's never really given any antiquate explanation--and I'm not asking for real-world logic (that would be impossible), just something less cryptic and an accurate descriptor of what was done. "[[spoiler:Trapping people in their heads]]" and "[[spoiler:using subspace to her advantage]]" doesn't tell us anything, it's just confusing.
** [[spoiler: Reading Volume 4, this started to make a bit of sense about dream-jumping. When Scott first attempted to go through subspace himself, Scott was going through minds which in his case ran into Ramona during her vulnerable moment of being angry with Scott and remembering her days Gideon. Gideon, being inside her mind uses this opportunity to attempt and trap Scott within his own mind namely triggering his worst side of himself: Negascott. Remember he just nearly became an evil exe when he nearly had sex with Lisa, but that incident was good enough for Gideon to play around with.]]. I will try and decipher the "Subspace use by Ramona later"

* So Gideon [[spoiler: screwed with Scott's memory of fighting Simon Lee]]. Then why would Kim [[spoiler: dream that Lee kills Scott?]]
** [[spoiler: I guess it was because, despite how Scott remembered it, they actually both screwed Simon Lee over. So she dreamed about Scott being killed by Simon because she felt guilty or whatever?]]

** That's a very good question, maybe [[spoiler: when Gideon said he spiced up a few of Scott's memories, he added those or made them more exciting]]. I consider that part of my personal Fanon.

** Read the book sometime! [[spoiler: In the last book Knives tells Scott she turned 17 the day they met, so the birthday she invites Scott to would be her 17th.]] Personally, my family constantly has parties on weekends if the actual birth-date is in the middle of the week, for example.

* ''Mind control''? I know the sixth book wasn't written yet when the script was finished, but even not having read the books at all, I still expected what turned out to be the canon explanation for Ramona's attraction to Gideon just from the "he has a way of getting into my head" line. And the idea that [[spoiler:Ramona can't get over Gideon because she can't get away from him, and even if she doesn't ''want'' to be with him he's still the literal man of her dreams]] is way way ''way'' more poetic than a freaking mind-control chip. WTF?

** Pretty sure is some joke Gideon or someone sent to him about Scott. Or probably he just received a message that he's going to star in another bad titled cliché film? Who knows?

* What is wrong with Todd Ingram's fans? They love and adore him even after [[spoiler: it is revealed that that he is a triple-timing asshole who flings girls into walls. Then he [[KarmaHoudini "justifies"]] his actions by stating that he is a rock star, all while FlippingTheBird at the audience.]] If I witnessed all of that, I would start rooting for the other guy.

* Scott has the chance to collect the coins left by the dead exes. While he actually does bother with it at one point, neither Scott nor any of the other characters bother to collect ''any'' of the ''seven-figure digits''' worth of cash left by [[spoiler: Gideon Graves]]. Even scooping up a handful of Canadian currency (of which the largest denomination is $2) could be twenty bucks or so by itself. His pockets could probably hold, oh, a hundred bucks each, if not more. And if he had a bag, he could have walked away significantly richer, even if he had to leave most of the coins behind. Of course, trying to find all that money IN COINS on a crowded dance floor [[spoiler: and among all of Ramona's stuff]], would be too hard for a bunch of very drained characters. Still, talk about a missed SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome in the course of a character's life.
** This was actually fixed in the films alternate ending where Scott ends up with Knives. As they walk Scott asks if Knives wants to go to the arcade. She says that she doesn't have any quarters. Scott having just defeated [[spoiler:Gideon]] points out that he does while rifling though his coat pocket.

** ''RuleOfSymbolism?'' In the comic, [[spoiler:when Ramona finally learns her aspect of the moral, she then blocks Gideon's sword with her subspace bag, shattering it. Then, she later notes she needs a new bag and doesn't want to start picking up and hoarding her old stuff because, like Scott, she needs to stop living in the past. ''Proceeding to have Scott fussing over something as trivial as money, let alone money from her exploded ex, kind of breaks his character arc of moving on and not dwelling on your past.'']]
** Funnily, the movie averts this when Stephen Stills realizes that the band isn't getting paid after [[spoiler: Gideon explodes.]] They start scooping up as much loose change as possible.

** He's 22 ''now'' (Wiki/TheOtherWiki lists his birthday as June 7, 1988), so he would have been about 20-21 during filming. Even still, so? Does Cera not know how to portray a 23 year old?

** Actually it's all quite simple: The old guy in the flashback was presumibly Todd's Dad or Mentor telling him he couldn't be a vegan. Todd's always been a bit rebelious but his inferiority complex combined with his power turned him into an egocentric douche who thinks he can do anything he wants. And as stated above, he just wanted to be a dick, and even if Gideon wasn't paying him(Why would an up and coming Rockstar need more money anyway?) he would do it just to screw with Ramona. Todd's just that much of a sociopath.

** That part came after the chip deactivated when Scott apologized for his actions towards Ramona & Knives. So, by that point, Ramona was acting on her own volition when sacking Gideon in the groin.

** Let me answer your questions starting with the last; no, O'Malley deliberately put it in there at random; just like other aspects of the series, [[MST3KMantra you're not supposed to question it]]. ''But since you've already broken that rule''[[note]]Very bad! Bad Troper![[/note]], I'll give you my best guess as to them. Continuing along, how it works is assumed to be the general rule of subspace, it is a pocket dimension that is smaller than ours, and so as the user crosses from point A to point B, represented by doors with stars on them in the series, they travel more space in the "real world" than they do in the sub-world. It pops up at convenience due to, at worst, bad writing, but it can be explained away by there being so many subspace doors scattered around that you can't go a block without encountering one. Also, Ramona knows where they all are. There is no toll (we see Scott use one in volume 4 and I think they'd mention if he had to pay). The reason no-one ever uses them is addressed in volume 1, when Ramona comments that they don't teach about subspace in Canadian schools. In America, they are a commonplace, well-known means of travel which everybody knows about, and likely get a lot of traffic (picture an elevator at the mall that everybody's trying to get to). In Canada, however, they're deserted because they're not very well advertised. And, lastly, Scott having a subspace highway running through his head is just one of those weird quirks in the series, possibly saying that Scott's mind works on a different frequency than everyone else's. I'd imagine there are a handful of other people with the same issue throughout the Pilgrimverse, maybe one in every 20-30 people has one. This just means that some part of Scott's mental space is partially in subspace. Did that help?

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** That part came after the chip deactivated when Scott apologized for his [[YourCheatingHeart actions]] towards Ramona & Knives. So, by that point, Ramona was acting on her own volition when sacking Gideon in the groin.

** None of the old-school, 8- or 16-bit games that Scott Pilgrim's inspired by had automatic saves. I totally wish they did. On the other hand, I don't know of any games that made 1UP's into automatic save points either, so I can't tie the movie's logic to any specific examples. As a side thing, if the movie's like the Scott Pilgrim tie-in game, Scott would have kept his leveled up stats even after restarting, and might have had to level up multiple times while losing to Gideon over and over, until his stats were high enough to take him down.

*** Gideon's mind control chip isn't full-on mind control. It only seems enhance certain emotions, like how the Glow worked in the comic book series.