History Headscratchers / ReturnOfTheJedi

8th Apr '17 4:05:59 PM nombretomado
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** [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Zahn's]] [[Literature/HandOfThrawn books]] cover this somewhat. In fact it was Zahn who invented the more "friendly" Imperial Remnant common in the "New Republic" EU publishing era (read: everything between ReturnOfTheJedi and the Literature/NewJediOrder series). Many of Zahn's books ask the question; what would the galaxy have been like if the Empire weren't ruled by a crazy Dark-side-obsessed narcissist? His books also point out that the New Republic is also not perfect and pretty much all of the "New Republic" era is focusing on the massive fallout, wars, rebellions, and power struggles that take place after the collapse of the Empire.

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** [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy Zahn's]] [[Literature/HandOfThrawn books]] cover this somewhat. In fact it was Zahn who invented the more "friendly" Imperial Remnant common in the "New Republic" EU publishing era (read: everything between ReturnOfTheJedi Film/ReturnOfTheJedi and the Literature/NewJediOrder series). Many of Zahn's books ask the question; what would the galaxy have been like if the Empire weren't ruled by a crazy Dark-side-obsessed narcissist? His books also point out that the New Republic is also not perfect and pretty much all of the "New Republic" era is focusing on the massive fallout, wars, rebellions, and power struggles that take place after the collapse of the Empire.
19th Mar '17 11:41:38 AM nombretomado
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* The Rebel Fleet can't attack the second Death Star because it is protected by a shield. Even fighters can't get through. Why wasn't this an issue in ANewHope?

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* The Rebel Fleet can't attack the second Death Star because it is protected by a shield. Even fighters can't get through. Why wasn't this an issue in ANewHope?''Film/ANewHope''?



* Not such a big deal, but doesn't anybody find it odd how big the moon of Endor is? In ANewHope, Luke and Han mistake the original Death Star for a small moon, and it is stated that the second Death Star is just as big as the first. When the briefing occurs and a hologram is shown, the Death Star is '''DWARFED''' by the moon. How big is this moon? I know it's potentially possible for a natural satellite to be that big, but still. And how big must that planet be?

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* Not such a big deal, but doesn't anybody find it odd how big the moon of Endor is? In ANewHope, ''Film/ANewHope'', Luke and Han mistake the original Death Star for a small moon, and it is stated that the second Death Star is just as big as the first. When the briefing occurs and a hologram is shown, the Death Star is '''DWARFED''' by the moon. How big is this moon? I know it's potentially possible for a natural satellite to be that big, but still. And how big must that planet be?



*** The Empire used slavery on aliens and permanent conscription on humans as well. Imperial Stop Loss Order, or I'm Milking Scragged, Life Over. And the ''ANewHope'' radio drama mentions "reeducation camps".

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*** The Empire used slavery on aliens and permanent conscription on humans as well. Imperial Stop Loss Order, or I'm Milking Scragged, Life Over. And the ''ANewHope'' ''Film/ANewHope'' radio drama mentions "reeducation camps".
28th Feb '17 5:40:58 PM Jhonny
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** The "plans" that were leaked weren't the schematics for the Death Star, it was the location and the fact the the Emperor himself would be there.

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** The "plans" that were leaked weren't the schematics for the Death Star, it was the location and the fact the the Emperor himself would be there.
28th Feb '17 1:37:46 PM Overanalyzer
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** Dying is also a risk that's inherent to being a Sith Lord. Palpatine puts himself in mortal jeopardy all the time in these movies, counting on his own power and cunning, or the fear and loyalty he's instilled in others, to enable him to come out on top. If he dies, then clearly he was no longer worthy of being called the Lord of the Sith. It's a feature, not a bug.
29th Dec '16 1:16:21 AM Zaptech
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*** The Death Star superlaser can fire off-axis, and if they're close enough to prevent it from firing over it's own horizon, then they're close enough for the hundreds of thousands of surface-mounted turbolasers to rip them apart.
25th Dec '16 5:45:48 AM PlatosAssistant
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** Two reasons: (1) the Rebels may not have the spare money to pay off some random slug crimelord on a forgotten planet much less even the time. They're focused on fighting the Empire, not paying off Han's debt for him. (2) Even if they did, what makes you think Jabba would even accept it? All he'd have to do is say, "I accept your gracious gift of money, but tell Solo the bounty is still on his head!" Jabba had been insulted by Han's actions and wanted the man to pay ''dearly''. They could've thrown all the money they had at him and Jabba would've still insisted he wanted Han's head.

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** Two reasons: (1) the Rebels may not have the spare money to pay off some random slug crimelord on a forgotten planet much less even the time. They're focused on fighting the Empire, not paying off Han's debt for him. (2) Even if they did, what makes you think Jabba would even accept it? let Han go? All he'd have to do is say, "I accept your gracious gift of money, but tell Solo the bounty is still on his head!" Jabba had been insulted by Han's actions and wanted the man to pay ''dearly''. They could've thrown all the money they had at him and Jabba would've still insisted he wanted Han's head.
25th Dec '16 5:44:01 AM PlatosAssistant
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* Am I the only one confused by how adamant Jabba was in refusing to deal with the Rebels? He must've realized being obstinate with a military organization that has caused problems for the Empire would end badly for him.

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\n** Two reasons: (1) the Rebels may not have the spare money to pay off some random slug crimelord on a forgotten planet much less even the time. They're focused on fighting the Empire, not paying off Han's debt for him. (2) Even if they did, what makes you think Jabba would even accept it? All he'd have to do is say, "I accept your gracious gift of money, but tell Solo the bounty is still on his head!" Jabba had been insulted by Han's actions and wanted the man to pay ''dearly''. They could've thrown all the money they had at him and Jabba would've still insisted he wanted Han's head.

* Am I the only one confused by how adamant Jabba was in refusing to deal with the Rebels? He must've realized being obstinate with a military organization that has caused problems for the Empire would end badly for him.him.
** Jabba's not the only crimelord Hutt in existence. If the Rebels tried to mess with him, all he'd have to do is call up all the thugs, bounty hunters, and, oh, every other Hutt in Hutt Space and now the Rebels have to fight a two-front war against both the Empire ''and'' the Hutts. Suffice to say, he is untouchable.
18th Dec '16 3:16:46 PM EnigmusPrime
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* It's been years since I watched ROTJ, but as I remember, Luke offers Jabba the droids for Han. Han owed Jabba a great deal of money, plus he'd avoided him for years. Why didn't the rebels just offer Jabba a greater amount of money? "Here you go Jabba, Han's debt to you plus interest!"

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* It's been years since I watched ROTJ, but as I remember, Luke offers Jabba the droids for Han. Han owed Jabba a great deal of money, plus he'd avoided him for years. Why didn't the rebels just offer Jabba a greater amount of money? "Here you go Jabba, Han's debt to you plus interest!"interest!"

* Am I the only one confused by how adamant Jabba was in refusing to deal with the Rebels? He must've realized being obstinate with a military organization that has caused problems for the Empire would end badly for him.
18th Dec '16 4:00:26 AM DanteCorwyn
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** Luke is by training, and personality, a fighter pilot. He is used to piloting space fighters and speeders, when the speeder bikes take off like they do it is far more in-character for him to impulsively jump on and give chase and try to shoot them down. Hanging back, using telekinesis and taking a more measured approach is just not (yet) in his nature. Perhaps he thought later "oh snap, I could have Force shoved them", but in the heat of the moment; no.

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** Luke is by training, and personality, a fighter pilot. He is used to piloting space fighters and speeders, when the speeder bikes take off like they do it is far more in-character for him to impulsively jump on and give chase and try to shoot them down. Hanging back, using telekinesis and taking a more measured approach is just not (yet) in his nature. Perhaps he thought later "oh snap, I could have Force shoved them", but in the heat of the moment; no.no.

* It's been years since I watched ROTJ, but as I remember, Luke offers Jabba the droids for Han. Han owed Jabba a great deal of money, plus he'd avoided him for years. Why didn't the rebels just offer Jabba a greater amount of money? "Here you go Jabba, Han's debt to you plus interest!"
16th Dec '16 11:06:08 AM ErikModi
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** One thing they needed to do was ascertain Han's status, if he was still in carbonite or not, if not where he was being held and what his physical status was, if he'd be able to help in his own rescue or be a walking wounded liability. Lando apparently wasn't able to communicate outside the palace (since Threepio seems surprised Han is still in carbonite), or he did communicate and they just left Threepio out of the loop like they did for everything else. In this case, Leia's getting captured achieved one important part of the mission objective: getting Han out of carbon freeze and self-mobile, so they didn't have to figure out a way to both defeat all of Jabba's thugs ''and'' get Han defrosted, likely in the middle of a firefight, and get him out of the palace while he's still in the worst staged of hibernation sickness.
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