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* Regarding Orvus's creation of Clank... granted, Orvus being responsible for his creation is an obvious RetCon, but going along with it and assuming that he caused the computer in the Blarg robot factory (Clank's "mother") to make him the way he was rather than just make another soldier robot... why did he go about it in such a manner? Did he ever state any reason for having Clank made in a factory in another galaxy rather than just make him at his home and keep him at his side in the Great Clock? The closest we ever get to an explanation is his line to Nefarious that Clank was safe, far from him, which implies he wanted his heir to be far away and presumably only know his heritage in case Orvus himself needed to step down, but if that's the case... why make Clank in a Blargian soldier factory? Looking at the intro to the first game, Clank is literally just a few seconds old when the other soldiers recognize him as an anomaly and try to destroy him. So why, just ''why'' did Orvus make Clank in such a contrived manner that put him into such blatant jeopardy, if the whole purpose was having an heir far away from potential threats?

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* Regarding Orvus's creation of Clank... granted, Orvus being responsible for his creation is an obvious RetCon, but going along with it and assuming that he caused the computer in the Blarg robot factory (Clank's "mother") to make him the way he was rather than just make another soldier robot... why did he go about it in such a manner? Did he ever state any reason for having Clank made in a factory in another galaxy rather than just make him at his home and keep him at his side in the Great Clock? The closest we ever get to an explanation is his line to Nefarious that Clank was safe, far from him, which implies he wanted his heir to be far away and presumably only know his heritage in case Orvus himself needed to step down, but if that's the case... why make Clank in a Blargian soldier factory? Looking at the intro to the first game, Clank is literally just a few seconds old when the other soldiers recognize him as an anomaly and try to destroy him. So why, just ''why'' did Orvus make Clank in such a contrived manner that put him into such blatant jeopardy, if the whole purpose was having an heir far away from potential threats?threats?
**Well, it could be fate, as I see Orvus as a living [[{{God}} God]]. He knew that Ratchet was a lombax (and the only one left in Solana), and he foreseen the plots of Chairman Drek, and [[spoiler: Qwark]], and Dr. Nefarious, and Gleeman Vox, being foiled by a lombax (well, he IS a Zoni, and it's possible that they can [[{{FinalFantasyXIII-2}} see into the future]]). He wanted his heir to be with a lombax, so that's why he caused Clank to be created in Quartu. If you read the trivia in A Crack in Time, Orvus actually ''went'' to Quartu, around the time Clank was created.
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** Zoni are shown to be a little naive, and prone to making somewhat stupid decisions. (Remember giving time travel to the Fongoids, and working with Nefarious?)
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* According to Darkwater's log in Quest for Booty, the leader of the Zoni gave him the Fulcrum Star so he could contact them again. Darkwater was the original captain of the SpacePirates, who were designed by Tachyon to forage for ore so he could build his army. ''Why'' would Orvus trust him with a Fulcrum Star?

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* According to Darkwater's log in Quest for Booty, the leader of the Zoni gave him the Fulcrum Star so he could contact them again. Darkwater was the original captain of the SpacePirates, who were designed by Tachyon to forage for ore so he could build his army. ''Why'' would Orvus trust him with a Fulcrum Star?Star?
* Regarding Orvus's creation of Clank... granted, Orvus being responsible for his creation is an obvious RetCon, but going along with it and assuming that he caused the computer in the Blarg robot factory (Clank's "mother") to make him the way he was rather than just make another soldier robot... why did he go about it in such a manner? Did he ever state any reason for having Clank made in a factory in another galaxy rather than just make him at his home and keep him at his side in the Great Clock? The closest we ever get to an explanation is his line to Nefarious that Clank was safe, far from him, which implies he wanted his heir to be far away and presumably only know his heritage in case Orvus himself needed to step down, but if that's the case... why make Clank in a Blargian soldier factory? Looking at the intro to the first game, Clank is literally just a few seconds old when the other soldiers recognize him as an anomaly and try to destroy him. So why, just ''why'' did Orvus make Clank in such a contrived manner that put him into such blatant jeopardy, if the whole purpose was having an heir far away from potential threats?
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** Considering that Gadgetron also made a ''Black Hole Gun'', robot suicide drones and whatever else, the {{Mega Corp}}s of RatchetAndClank are basically [[ResidentEvil Umbrella]] played for laughs.

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** Considering that Gadgetron also made a ''Black Hole Gun'', robot suicide drones and whatever else, the {{Mega Corp}}s of RatchetAndClank are basically [[ResidentEvil [[Franchise/ResidentEvil Umbrella]] played for laughs.
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** Or maybe he just was lying.
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** Orvus didn't create Sigmund, he recruited him.

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** Orvus didn't create Sigmund, he recruited him.him.
* According to Darkwater's log in Quest for Booty, the leader of the Zoni gave him the Fulcrum Star so he could contact them again. Darkwater was the original captain of the SpacePirates, who were designed by Tachyon to forage for ore so he could build his army. ''Why'' would Orvus trust him with a Fulcrum Star?
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** A better reason is simply that the Future series writing was garbage. In-universe, there wasn't a crack that led where they wanted to go
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*** In Up Your Arsenal, Skid McMarx was turned into a robot by the Biobliterator and Al said he would find a way to change him back. If Al was able to do that, he probably did the same thing to himself after Deadlocked.
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**** Really? I thought the Blargs went back to Orxon in Deadlocked.
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* Why does Orvus treat Clank like he's Orvus' only son, Sigmund was born the exact same way? What kind of asshole father is he?

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* Why does Orvus treat Clank like he's Orvus' only son, Sigmund was born the exact same way? What kind of asshole father is he?he?
** Orvus didn't create Sigmund, he recruited him.
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** If you got to All 4 One's final cutscene after the credits rolled, Lawrence mentions one of those weapons systems and that they have to go pick it up from somewhere. Odds are the butler got his boss functional but not entirely battle-ready in the time between games.

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** If you got to All 4 One's final cutscene after the credits rolled, Lawrence mentions one of those weapons systems and that they have to go pick it up from somewhere. Odds are the butler got his boss functional but not entirely battle-ready in the time between games.games.
* Why does Orvus treat Clank like he's Orvus' only son, Sigmund was born the exact same way? What kind of asshole father is he?
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* [[{{BagOfSpilling}} Whatever happened to the abilities Nefarious had]] in the [[spoiler:second-to-]]final battle in A Crack in Time? Surely those would have come in handy in All 4 One, especially in the [[{{ThatOneLevel}} Polar Sea.]]

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* [[{{BagOfSpilling}} Whatever happened to the abilities Nefarious had]] in the [[spoiler:second-to-]]final battle in A Crack in Time? Surely those would have come in handy in All 4 One, especially in the [[{{ThatOneLevel}} Polar Sea.]]]]
** If you got to All 4 One's final cutscene after the credits rolled, Lawrence mentions one of those weapons systems and that they have to go pick it up from somewhere. Odds are the butler got his boss functional but not entirely battle-ready in the time between games.
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** Maybe he's just got a synthetic skin on top of the parts. Did we ever see Al as a cyborg later than Deadlocked? (Sorry, it's been awhile since I played through the entire series.) It's doubtful that he would have been able to get anything but the bare minimum on [=DreadZone=] so maybe it just took time to get the cosmetic stuff done. The comic takes place after the Future trilogy, after all, so that's plenty of time to adjust to the parts and work around the problems they present.

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** Maybe he's just got a synthetic skin on top of the parts. Did we ever see Al as a cyborg later than Deadlocked? (Sorry, it's been awhile since I played through the entire series.) It's doubtful that he would have been able to get anything but the bare minimum on [=DreadZone=] so maybe it just took time to get the cosmetic stuff done. The comic takes place after the Future trilogy, after all, so that's plenty of time to adjust to the parts and work around the problems they present.present.
* [[{{BagOfSpilling}} Whatever happened to the abilities Nefarious had]] in the [[spoiler:second-to-]]final battle in A Crack in Time? Surely those would have come in handy in All 4 One, especially in the [[{{ThatOneLevel}} Polar Sea.]]
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** It could still take place in the holo-films. If the "writers" of the ShowWithinAShow based it on "real" events and characters, then its perfectly plausible for them to reference past events. (Keep in mind that I haven't played the game though.)
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*** I think it's also do do with causality. The original version of events on Zanifar and Gimlick Valley had nothing to do with Ratchet, so changing them had no effect on him or the events that resulted in him being there. Changing the fate of the Lombaxes would have a huge personal effect, and create a paradox (Lombaxes are safe, so Ratchet wouldn't try to save them) unless they could create some sort of StableTimeLoop. On the other hand, he could still probably go back and find out what really happened, so long as he didn't try to meddle with events.

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*** I think it's also do to do with causality. The original version of events on Zanifar and Gimlick Valley had nothing to do with Ratchet, so changing them had no effect on him or the events that resulted in him being there. Changing the fate of the Lombaxes would have a huge personal effect, and create a paradox (Lombaxes are safe, so Ratchet wouldn't try to save them) unless they could create some sort of StableTimeLoop. On the other hand, he could still probably go back and find out what really happened, so long as he didn't try to meddle with events.
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*** I think it's also do do with causality. The original version of events on Zanifar and Gimlick Valley had nothing to do with Ratchet, so changing them had no effect on him or the events that resulted in him being there. Changing the fate of the Lombaxes would have a huge personal effect, and create a paradox (Lombaxes are safe, so Ratchet wouldn't try to save them) unless they could create some sort of StableTimeLoop. On the other hand, he could still probably go back and find out what really happened, so long as he didn't try to meddle with events.

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** He probably lived with foster parents or in an orphanage. The latter seems more likely since he was seen living on his own in the original game. In his cameo in Jak X, he's 18, so if we treat that to mean that he was 18 in Deadlocked-- the closest title to X-- then he probably would've been around 15 in the first game. Still pretty young to be on one's own, but you never know what age means what in the [[CrapsackWorld R&C universe]].

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** He probably lived with foster parents or in an orphanage. The latter seems more likely since he was seen living on his own in the original game. In his cameo in Jak X, he's 18, so if we treat that to mean that he was 18 in Deadlocked-- the closest title to X-- then he probably would've been around 15 in the first game. Still pretty young to be on one's own, but you never know what age means what in the [[CrapsackWorld R&C universe]]. universe]].
** While we're on the topic of Ratchet being pretty much an orphan, how old was he before being sent away? Why didn't he learn Lombax before the in-universe Common/English?

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** Yes.

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** [[BluntYes Yes.]]


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** He probably lived with foster parents or in an orphanage. The latter seems more likely since he was seen living on his own in the original game. In his cameo in Jak X, he's 18, so if we treat that to mean that he was 18 in Deadlocked-- the closest title to X-- then he probably would've been around 15 in the first game. Still pretty young to be on one's own, but you never know what age means what in the [[CrapsackWorld R&C universe]].
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* Near the end of Deadlocked, Big Al was fitted with cyborg-like parts since his body was damaged beyond repair, and it seemed like they would be a permanent thing. But when he shows up in hologram form in the comic series (not sure if it's issue 5 or 6), he looks normal. As in, before he was given the cyborg parts. What happened?

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* Near the end of Deadlocked, Big Al was fitted with cyborg-like parts since his body was damaged beyond repair, and it seemed like they would be a permanent thing. But when he shows up in hologram form in the comic series (not sure if it's issue 5 or 6), he looks normal. As in, before he was given the cyborg parts. What happened?happened?
** Maybe he's just got a synthetic skin on top of the parts. Did we ever see Al as a cyborg later than Deadlocked? (Sorry, it's been awhile since I played through the entire series.) It's doubtful that he would have been able to get anything but the bare minimum on [=DreadZone=] so maybe it just took time to get the cosmetic stuff done. The comic takes place after the Future trilogy, after all, so that's plenty of time to adjust to the parts and work around the problems they present.
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** FridgeLogic, best not to overthink it.

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** FridgeLogic, best not to overthink it.it.
* Near the end of Deadlocked, Big Al was fitted with cyborg-like parts since his body was damaged beyond repair, and it seemed like they would be a permanent thing. But when he shows up in hologram form in the comic series (not sure if it's issue 5 or 6), he looks normal. As in, before he was given the cyborg parts. What happened?
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* It's probably pretty dumb to be vexed by this, but I just have to say it. I can understand destroying things like crates and generators and the like, and getting bolts in return... but some of the destructible items have no business housing the stuff. The ice crystals on IRIS were pushing it, but ''mushrooms''? That was in [=ACiT's=] Valkyrie Citadel, too, where it wouldn't have been too strange to see some type of machinery or something...

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* It's probably pretty dumb to be vexed by this, but I just have to say it. I can understand destroying things like crates and generators and the like, and getting bolts in return... but some of the destructible items have no business housing the stuff. The ice crystals on IRIS were pushing it, but ''mushrooms''? That was in [=ACiT's=] Valkyrie Citadel, too, where it wouldn't have been too strange to see some type of machinery or something...something...
** FridgeLogic, best not to overthink it.
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** Possible, but then that would imply he was old enough to live on his own, which should logically then mean he would have had some memory of his family.
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** Perhaps Ratchet fended for himself on Veldin, or he was adopted until he grew up and started his own garage.

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** Perhaps Ratchet fended for himself on Veldin, or he was adopted until he grew up and started his own garage.garage.
* It's probably pretty dumb to be vexed by this, but I just have to say it. I can understand destroying things like crates and generators and the like, and getting bolts in return... but some of the destructible items have no business housing the stuff. The ice crystals on IRIS were pushing it, but ''mushrooms''? That was in [=ACiT's=] Valkyrie Citadel, too, where it wouldn't have been too strange to see some type of machinery or something...
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* I'm rather curious as to who took care of Ratchet after the Lombax/Tachyon war. Before ''A Crack in Time'', anyone would have figured his father had looked after him. But now that we know Kaden was one of Tachyon's last victims, it begs the question of who raised Ratchet all these years. I can only guess that maybe that question will be answered in the next (final?) trilogy.

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* I'm rather curious as to who took care of Ratchet after the Lombax/Tachyon war. Before ''A Crack in Time'', anyone would have figured his father had looked after him. But now that we know Kaden was one of Tachyon's last victims, it begs the question of who raised Ratchet all these years. I can only guess that maybe that question will be answered in the next (final?) trilogy.trilogy.
** Perhaps Ratchet fended for himself on Veldin, or he was adopted until he grew up and started his own garage.
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** It's possible that he only met the grunts, and had not yet gotten the chance to summon the real BigBads of the Cragmite race. Creepy, crazy, semi mindless minions can be ignored, but who is to say that actual Cragmite leaders might have made Tachyon look like a saint compared to them?



* I know it can be chalked up to release order, but the fact that Ratchet's character seems to reset for Size Matters after Deadlocked (which is probably where [[NotSoDifferent a lot of it came from]]) drives me up the wall-- particularly since it's just that one game, and he's back to normal again, once Tools of Destruction starts up. Maybe it's intentional, since he was acting pretty much the same as the first game, and there were an awful lot of throwbacks to it, but that doesn't really change much.

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* I know it can be chalked up to release order, but the fact that Ratchet's character seems to reset for Size Matters after Deadlocked (which is probably where [[NotSoDifferent a lot of it came from]]) drives me up the wall-- particularly since it's just that one game, and he's back to normal again, once Tools of Destruction starts up. Maybe it's intentional, since he was acting pretty much the same as the first game, and there were an awful lot of throwbacks to it, but that doesn't really change much.much.
* I'm rather curious as to who took care of Ratchet after the Lombax/Tachyon war. Before ''A Crack in Time'', anyone would have figured his father had looked after him. But now that we know Kaden was one of Tachyon's last victims, it begs the question of who raised Ratchet all these years. I can only guess that maybe that question will be answered in the next (final?) trilogy.
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* Why does Gadgetron continue to develop new RYNOs if every one since the first is considered illegal and banned in several galaxies?

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* Why does Gadgetron continue to develop new RYNOs [=RYNOs=] if every one since the first is considered illegal and banned in several galaxies?



* The newly announced All4One game looks like it won't carry on from the story set up by the SequelHook at the end of ACIT. This just looks like it will be a side story.

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* The newly announced All4One ''All 4 One'' game looks like it won't carry on from the story set up by the SequelHook at the end of ACIT.''[=ACIT=]''. This just looks like it will be a side story.
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*** I think the first troper was commenting on the WhatTheHellHero aspect of the ending-- Drek had already destroyed a bunch of planets to form the new one for the Blarg, but there was nothing to be done about that. All Ratchet and Clank had to do was get rid of Drek and his plan to pollute the new planet would have been a bust, but they destroyed the planet instead, leaving the Blarg with no homeworld at all... and (presumably) nobody to lead them. Kind of makes you feel sorry for them...
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** That's because the hypershot functioned as both a swingshot and a dynamo. After ''Up Your Arsenal'', it only functioned as a swingshot, which is probably why they called it a swingshot instead of a hypershot, despite the appearance. Maybe the swingshot just upgraded its image or something-- the omniwrench changes from game to game, too, without anyone commenting on it, so it may be something like that.

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** That's because the hypershot functioned as both a swingshot and a dynamo. After ''Up Your Arsenal'', it only functioned as a swingshot, which is probably why they called it a swingshot instead of a hypershot, despite the appearance. Maybe the swingshot Gadgetron just upgraded its image or something-- the omniwrench changes from game to game, too, without anyone commenting on it, so it may be something like that.
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** That's because the hypershot functioned as both a swingshot and a dynamo. After ''Up Your Arsenal'', it only functioned as a swingshot, which is probably why they called it a swingshot instead of a hypershot, despite the appearance. Maybe the swingshot just upgraded its image or something-- the omniwrench changes from game to game, too, without anyone commenting on it, so it may be something like that.

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