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12th Sep '16 6:14:32 AM Zaptech
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** I don't think she actually used it to climb the tower, considering she was MUCH faster when she and Weiss used a similar trick on thta Nevermore back in Volume 1. Which is confusing on its own

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** I don't think she actually used it to climb the tower, considering she was MUCH faster when she and Weiss used a similar trick on thta Nevermore back in Volume 1. Which is confusing on its ownown.
*** Ruby did use it to climb the tower, because she's physically ''shown'' using it to run up the side of the tower. The tower is much, ''much'' taller than the cliff, which is why it took her longer to get up there.
11th Sep '16 3:55:41 PM mirumoto
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**I don't think she actually used it to climb the tower, considering she was MUCH faster when she and Weiss used a similar trick on thta Nevermore back in Volume 1. Which is confusing on its own
28th Aug '16 2:13:57 AM AJSthe2nd
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** That's also a distinct possibility. Ruby is good for her age but never really seemed like she was THAT good to warrant being let in early as in class skill and power ranking she was mid tier at best. But she might have been let in specifically so that she'd fly under Salem's radar because guys like Pyrrha Yang and Weiss were higher profile than her. And so that her desire to not look special because of getting in early would cause her to keep her head down. Where as if Ruby had finished Signal and entered Beacon at 17, she'd undoubtably be the strongest in her grade and possibly even developed a hotshot attitude like Yang as a result, which would paint a massive target on her back.
27th Aug '16 1:49:43 PM Rosencrantz
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** If we want to go into darker reasons, just go full cynic. Pyrrha was nothing more or less than a distraction to keep Salem's minions' eyes off of Ruby. Prodigy gets in two years early? Invite a world renowned fighter to attend your school and overshadow whatever the prodigy is capable of in the public's eyes. Prodigy has a special power you need to keep safe? Hold a meeting with the world renowned fighter in a room of a tower you know has been infiltrated by your enemy, and tell her about the maidens, and declare that she is to be the next fall maiden. That's a secret, yes, but it's one that Qrow told Ozpin had already gotten out - the infiltrator is the one responsible for Amber's condition, after all. If Pyrrha receives half the Fall Maiden's power, that's wonderful. She's a good girl with a sound head on her shoulders. But Pyrrha's expendable in the grand scheme of things, and the world has survived its share of evil maidens. But if she dies, and the enemy gets blindsided by Ruby, having focused all their energy monitoring the most obvious choice for a guardian, than it has been well worth it.
25th Aug '16 12:25:53 AM Zaptech
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** Of course Cinder never broke anyone's Aura with one hit, as she never used an attack that was singularly as powerful as the one Adam used. Neo's attacks were nowhere near as powerful as the Paladin's blows, as evidenced by the fact that none of them hit Yang hard enough to launch her back like the Paladin did. The worst hit prior to getting slammed into the ceiling was a kick that knocked her directly to the floor. The Paladin punched her a dozen feet through a pillar, and she was left reeling after that hit even more than any of the blows Neo landed before slamming her into the ceiling. And if Aura is allowing pain and heat in, then it's still allowing some form of energy to affect the individual, meaning that energy ''is'' bleeding through the barrier.

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** Of course Cinder never broke anyone's Aura with one hit, as she never used an attack that was singularly as powerful as the one Adam used. Neo's attacks were nowhere near as powerful as the Paladin's blows, as evidenced by the fact that none of them hit Yang hard enough to launch her back like the Paladin did. The worst hit prior to getting slammed into the ceiling was a kick that knocked her directly to the floor. The Paladin punched her a dozen feet through a pillar, and she was left reeling after that hit even more than any of the blows Neo landed before slamming her into the ceiling. And if Aura is allowing pain and heat in, then it's still allowing some form of energy to affect the individual, meaning that energy ''is'' bleeding through the barrier.\\
The key thing to remember here is that the whole reason Yang is so tough is because she actively absorbs energy from every hit, and gets stronger the longer the fight goes on. Neo got around that by CherryTapping Yang so she couldn't power up, until hitting her with a single extremely strong blow that put her out of the fight. Adam simply takes that to the logical extreme: instead of tap-tap-tapping away at her, he just hits her with a single blow. Either that hit was strong enough to completely drain Yang's remaining Aura, and the leftover energy cut her arm off, or event he miniscule amount of energy that got through - what would be mere heat or pain for most impacts - was enough to chop off her arm.



** The argument that Aura "stops any hit" as long as 15% of it remains is nonsense, at least from a physics standpoint. If Yang's Aura currently can block ''x'' Nt of force and Adam hits her with ''y'' Nt, where ''y'' > ''x'', the remaining Nt of force (let's just call that variable ''x'') is not just going to vanish into the aether because her Aura was at an arbitrary level. That would violate conservation of energy. ''x'' Nt are still going to be transferred to her through the blade, as the blade is still in contact with her flesh, and there's no longer an Aura to absorb the incoming energy.

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** The argument that Aura "stops any hit" as long as 15% of it remains is nonsense, at least from a physics standpoint. If Yang's Aura currently can block ''x'' Nt of force and Adam hits her with ''y'' Nt, where ''y'' > ''x'', the remaining Nt of force (let's just call that variable ''x'') is not just going to vanish into the aether because her Aura was at an arbitrary level.level before getting hit. That would violate conservation of energy. ''x'' Nt are still going to be transferred to her through the blade, as the blade is still in contact with her flesh, and there's no longer an Aura to absorb the incoming energy.
25th Aug '16 12:18:58 AM Zaptech
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** Of course Cinder never broke anyone's Aura with one hit, as she never used an attack that was singularly as powerful as the one Adam used. Neo's attacks were nowhere near as powerful as the Paladin's blows, as evidenced by the fact that none of them hit Yang hard enough to launch her back like the Paladin did. The worst hit prior to getting slammed into the ceiling was a kick that knocked her directly to the floor. The Paladin punched her a dozen feet through a pillar, and she was left reeling after that hit even more than any of the blows Neo landed before slamming her into the ceiling. And if Aura is allowing pain and heat in, then it's still allowing some form of energy to affect the individual, meaning that energy ''is'' bleeding through the barrier.


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** The argument that Aura "stops any hit" as long as 15% of it remains is nonsense, at least from a physics standpoint. If Yang's Aura currently can block ''x'' Nt of force and Adam hits her with ''y'' Nt, where ''y'' > ''x'', the remaining Nt of force (let's just call that variable ''x'') is not just going to vanish into the aether because her Aura was at an arbitrary level. That would violate conservation of energy. ''x'' Nt are still going to be transferred to her through the blade, as the blade is still in contact with her flesh, and there's no longer an Aura to absorb the incoming energy.
18th Aug '16 1:36:33 PM AJSthe2nd
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** Adam can't pierce aura. That was a wrong impression they gave when wanting him to look as dangerous and badass as possible to mark him as a major threat for future volumes. Adam just hit Yang really hard, and her aura wasn't at 100 percent because of fighting Grimm on the way, and thanks to her aura being almost wiped out in her fight with Mercury the day prior, as they explained in a stream later on. Yang just showed up at the worst possible time in the worst condition when he had a moonslice ready to go, to make him look tougher than he really is. Adam's strong, but he can't instant pierce full auras or anything like that.
18th Aug '16 9:24:02 AM mirumoto
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**And Adam moved fast enough that we only saw where he was after he swung; plus, Cinder wasn't able to break anyone's Aura with one hit, let alone hurt them with their Aura still up. Neo hit Yang about a dozen times, and they seemed to be rather powerful hits, since Yan was sent reeling after each one even though she was fine after getting thrown through a 10 foot wide pillar. And Weiss was hit twice by the Knight, meaning the first could have dropped her Aura down to below 15% while the punch allowed for bleedthrough. Also, according to one of the livestreams, Aura doesn't let damage through, but it does let sensations like pain and heat in.
14th Aug '16 11:05:53 AM Zaptech
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** No. We saw what Cinder could do with the Maiden powers. Ozpin was moving at speeds so fast he was leaving afterimages. Pyrrha could barely touch Cinder. Cinder destroyed both of them. She would have casually flattened Adam if he went up against her. And Yang has ''not'' withstood the nastiest hits in the show. Neo was able to bring her down with only a couple of well-placed hits. And no, Aura does not stop every hit. Some force does bleed through, otherwise Weiss would not have been scarred by the Knight's punch, Yang wouldn't have been knocked out from a single hit by Neo throwing her into the roof of the train car, and characters wouldn't be grunting in pain when they get hit by other attacks. Adam's attack hits extremely hard, to the point that even the miniscule kinetic energy that gets through Aura can still chop off a limb.


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**Why? The powers can ''only'' be transferred to a young woman, and presumably that applies even with an Aura transfer. Also keep in mind that they're running in uncharted territory here, and they have no actual idea what will happen when the Aura is transferred. They'll want to stack the deck as favorably as possible toward it going to their intended recipient.
12th Aug '16 11:10:21 AM mirumoto
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** That brings up more issues though. If he's powerful enough to drop Yang in one hit after absorbing few enough hits to not 'max out' his power (assuming that he only glows when he's absorbed a lot of energy), then he shouldn't be able to break Yang's aura in one hit. That would make him significantly stronger than Cinder with all of her Maiden powers. Yang's been shown to take some of the nastiest hits in the show and just keep going. Also, Aura his been stated and demonstrated to stop ANY hit as long as you have 15% or more left when the hit lands. In order for either of the injuries to make sense, we would have needed to see two hits from Adam: one to break their Auras, and one to hurt them.

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** That brings up more issues though. If he's powerful enough to drop Yang in one hit after absorbing few enough hits to not 'max out' his power (assuming that he only glows when he's absorbed a lot of energy), then he shouldn't be able to break Yang's aura in one hit. That that would make him significantly stronger than Cinder with all of her Maiden powers. Yang's been shown to take some of the nastiest hits in the show and just keep going. Also, Aura his been stated and demonstrated to stop ANY hit as long as you have 15% or more left when the hit lands. In order for either of the injuries to make sense, we would have needed to see two hits from Adam: one to break their Auras, and one to hurt them.
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