Headscratchers for RWBY.
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- If the story's conflict is centered around people fighting monsters, why are all the antagonists human?
- Because a plot's only as clever as its antagonist and humans (or humanoids) are smart and can plan, while monsters can only really barge in thence to be expelled hence (and tend to be(come) humanoid when they're intelligent). Notice that plenty of shows with similar premises do the same thing (Bleach's "Soul Society" arc was considered the best in its run and came after it dropped the Monster of the Week format and brought the protagonists into conflict with other hunters of said monsters). It's probably best to consider the Grimm part of the setting, rather than necessarily the foundation of the plot (and an explanation for the Crazy Awesome weapons, of course) - not that it's unlikely they will be later.
- At least Bleach established the monsters as a threat before moving the show's focus away from them. Here, the Grimm don't feel like a threat at all: Every skirmish shown has been initiated by people either entering their territory or going out of their way to make them mad. If they're malicious, then show them wrecking a village or something, don't force us to take your word for it.
- Well, Volume 2 episode 9, has the group travel to the remains of a city that was destroyed by Grimm, and Episode 11 has an army of Grimm breaking into the City, and we learn that the Grimm won't die from natural causes and they gain intelligence the longer they live. So I think all that would explain why the Grimm are considered such a threat.
- First production diary for Volume 2 states that the nature of the Grimm and what they are really capable of will be explored further.
- Course, explaining doesn't mean anything if you fail to display it.
Ruby and Yang Names?
- Why, if they are siblings, do Ruby and Yang have different surnames? (Rose & Long, respectively)
- It's possible that one of them changed their last name, or they may even be step-sisters (they are lacking much family resemblance, though that doesn't prove anything definitive)
- The current prevailing theory seems to be that Ruby is adopted. The jury is still out on Yang though.
- Word of God has stated that they're not related by blood.
- Word of God refutes that statement: they are blood-related.
- Word of God has also Jossed the theory that one of them is adopted.
- They could be half-sisters as well. Heck, maybe this world doesn't really have family names. Have we seen anyone with the same surname yet?
- Heck, I know someone who has a different surname than his sister even though they have the same mother and father. He was born before their parents were married so he has their mother's maiden name, while his sister was born after their parents were married and has their father's surname.
- In the Yellow trailer, Yang says that she has "several names", so maybe Xiao Long isn't even her real last name.
- Or is it possible Yang and Ruby's parents were separated somehow? Ruby stayed with (Summer Rose?) her mother and Yang with their father with the Xiao Long name?
- And Monty has finally revealed the definite answer on the subject: they are half-sisters with a common father. So that's one mystery cleared up.
- Why do they use a shortened version of the already shortened version of the Opening song? They showed what looked like a full opening (sequence not the actual song) at the end of episode 1. But from then they use a shortened version of that sequence.
- While it is an entertaining opening sequence, it's over a minute long. Doesn't that seem a bit tedious?
- The first episode was also double the length of episodes two and three, it's for pacing.
- It's possible that they'll use the full opening for the midseason and season finales.
- This has been proved false.
- Because the first episode is opening for the entire season while the other episodes are opening for just that episode. It's the same reason why they stick it at the end of the episode rather than the start.
- Does the Yellow trailer take place before the show or after some point in the show? She was looking for Blake when talking to Junior, but didn't react oddly to seeing her in episode 3, which suggests the second option. However, she also didn't seem to recognise Roman, who was talking to Junior when she arrived, which would suggest the former.
- Monty has confirmed that the person Yang was looking for wasn't Blake, so there's that. As for the other thing, the trailer probably takes place during an off screen moment during the show. Either that or, if it was before the show, she just wasn't paying Roman any attention since she was more focused on Junior.
- Monty has also confirmed that the trailers are prologues, or at the very least, that's what he calls them.
- They may, however, be partially or wholly non canon, as the red trailer was called "A weapon resumé" and the others seem quite scattered.
- It's been implied that the Black trailer is canon, a similar event is mentioned by Weiss to have infuriated her father in the past and it is implied to be when Blake left the White Fang.
- In "Welcome to Beacon" Weiss actually refers to blowing up a night club so its most likely canon and she was looking for Blake in between "The Stray" and "Black and White".
- "Painting the Town" confirms that the Yellow trailer is canon (at least mostly — certain elements don't fit with the show's sequence of events), but I had always wondered why and when she'd be looking for Blake. Thanks for clearing that up.
- "Burning the Candle" reveals that Yang is a mild obsession with finding her birth mother, so it is very likely that that is who was in the picture Yang was looking for. From that, Weiss's comment, and the fact that Yang references having been there before (and the Mooks reaction to her), we can assume the Yellow Trailer is definitely canon. The fact that Junior references renting some of his Mooks to Roman Torchwick, which we saw in the first episode, suggests that it did take place prior to the series.
- Before. In the show, Junior tells Yang that he hasn't seen Torchwick for months - not since the "last time" she walked into the club, when he was making a deal to hire his mooks. In the yellow trailer... Torchwick is talking to Junior when Yang walks in. It's only been a few months of school so far. More importantly, at the very beginning of the series, Torchwick already has junior's mooks working for him - the guys with bowler hats and red sunglasses.
- A common complaint so far is the episodes' short length. "The Shining Beacon" and "The First Step" are both split into two parts, but together, they are roughly the same length as the first episode. Why not simply release these and future episodes together instead of splitting them up? Yeah, it would make the season's run a bit shorter, but that's not exactly a bad thing, considering the DVD comes out right at the end of every season anyway.
- The same could be said for its sister series Red vs. Blue. The average RvB episode is around six minutes. This is nothing new.
- Except, as noted elsewhere, this is not RvB. RWBY is a character-driven story, while RvB is a plot-driven story (though seasons 6-8 and were certainly character-driven). Plus, RvB episodes essentially are just separated by joke punchlines, thus there is usually sufficient payoff during such a short runtime on each episode. By contrast, RWBY is about actual plot progression, and, as the titles imply, progress more and have more sufficient payoff when two parts are combined (like in the first episode) than in 4 minutes (as seen in "The First Step Pt 2"). It's generally understood that the episodes are released this way to give Monty and the rest of the staff more time to brush them up, but if that's the case, why not simply push back the release date of the next season and release the chapters in 12 minute increments?
- Because they want to release it weekly and if they pushed back the release date people would complain.
- Then they should have the second season release later in the year than the first and release the 12 minute episodes weekly.
- In all honesty I don't know why they do it the way they do. Maybe they just want the episodes to be short. Maybe they're used to short episodes and weekly releases and are unwilling to change. Maybe they don't know if they're doing another season and are just trying to bang these out as fast at they can. If you want an answer I'd ask Monty on twitter/email them.
- How did they not know they were going to get a second season? The show was majorly hyped since the first trailer.
- That's just one situation of what could have happened. I'm attempting to provide an answer to the question. And the answer to that is I don't know, neither does ANYBODY except for the crew, so if you want the question answered (and that's what this section is for) then the best bet is to try and ask them.
- My assumption: they have budget for X content - within probably ten to twenty minutes. They were probably expected to cut it down to Y episodes from the Rooster Teeth bosses (say what you will about that choice, but I'm sure that directive came from Burnie and Matt in the form of "release episodes once a week for this many weeks"). They looked at their script and wrote what, at least to them, seemed to be obvious break points. When they turned script into episodes, this resulted in fairly variable episode length - likely in part due to lack of experience by the writers and likely in part due to the fact that dialogue takes considerably more script space than action (eg: Episodes 7 and 8 would've had a better spacing if the episode ended on Yang's So Proud of You moment rather than when Ruby is falling from the sky). Episode 1 they intentionally made extra long because they wanted to make a good introduction and get to the point where the opening sequence was presented. The Episode names likely came after as Monty grouped common themes together. Maybe this complaint will get addressed next season and they will plan for fewer, more complete episodes less frequently, maybe it won't. Keep in mind that the many, many users who are not sponsors are paying Rooster Teeth per viewing via ads and if there's twice as many episodes, that's likely twice as many ads which affects the budget formula. Certainly, experience will help them figure out better ways to not have such imbalanced episode lengths.
- It's because "Each episode is a Music Video" According to one of the Behind the scenes Videos for season 2.
Thank you! I'm Sorry!
- Why did Pyrrha shout "I'm sorry!" after she saved Jaune? Especially considering he yelled "Thank you!". Why did she have to be sorry about? She should've said something like "No problem!" or something.
- She might have been trying to provide a platform for him to land on rather than pinning him to the tree, hence the "I'm sorry!"
- A platform? It's a spear. If she had aimed lower, he would've landed on his balls. That would've been funny, but still.
- Or she had to resort to throwing her spear because she didn't land close enough to save him in a more dignified way
- It's possible the 'spear people to surfaces' thing is going to be a Running Gag, and Pyrrha apologizing every time she does it would be part of the joke, whether it makes sense to apologize or not.
- The "thank you" may even be part of the running gag. The first time, when Pyrrha pins Jaune to a locker, you can see Weiss mouth something that might have been "thank you".
- The simple answer is that she's just overly polite. Those types of people do exist.
- So Pyrrha's a Canadian?
- Given that Vol 2's intro shows her aura generating maple leaves...I think that yes, she is.
- Running Gag? Catchphrase, more likely.
- She threw a spear at him that impaled him to the tree, like a butterfly. Yes, it did saved his life, but it was still painful and humiliating. And Pyrrha is just a nice enough person to care.
- Plus, he's dangling there until she can find him, his clothes have a hole in them, and that was a dangerous thing to do.
- Maybe because that was the second time she speared him to a surface like that? Maybe as a Call Back to the previous episode?
- Possibly because she likes him and is nervous and does illogical things when it comes to him and thus said "I'm sorry".
- Is this a serious question? Because she just pinned him to a tree, that's why.
- And because this is the second time we've seen it. The first incident occurred in Vol. 1, Episode 4, when Weiss requested help from Pyrrha to get her, or more specifically, Jaune, out of that current situation.
- Was Blake really in the launch sequence in episode 4? Kerry tweeted that she was, but at least half of the people who've seen the tweet think it's a joke. Ruby believes Blake is in the initiation in episode 5, which does imply that Blake was there, but then why would they omit such an important character? They can't have just forgotten something so important. Simply put, what happened to Blake?
- When Ozpin and Glynda explained the task, Ozpin said they'd have to select a relic, return to the cliff and guard it. Guard it from what? Perhaps Ozpin has split the students into two groups - one to collect the relics and one to give that group a reason to "guard" them? Perhaps Blake is the one they'll have to protect the relics from.
- Actually, Ozpin just had a bit of mushy diction on that line: he doesn't mention guarding at all. The line is really "We will regard that item, as well as your standing, and grade you appropriately." It's an understandable mistake to make, though: the words at the beginning were pretty rushed.
- Perhaps it was an oversight or the scene had to be cut for some reason.
- She was launched. She met Yang and teamed with her in episode 6.
- I just assumed she was launched from a different area, or maybe even at a different time (like, Ruby and Co were just the first batch, and the second batch was behind them, who stepped up once they were launched)
- Word of God says she was launched, but she just landed on her feet. They kept it offscreen because, you know, Blake is a cat faunus.
"Right foot forward."
- While coaching herself, Weiss thinks she should keep her right foot forward... but moves her left foot forward instead. This unless her legs are facing at odd angles. Two viable explanations for this: either it's an honest mistake by the actress playing Weiss (in which case, WTF? Why didn't they fix that with a re-shoot?) or it's a sign that Weiss may not know her left from her right. I know people like this. As ridiculous as I think it is (and I do mean I have openly ridiculed them to their face about it), it's a real thing.
- It could have been that she was just nervous and not using the proper words in her mind.
- She's left-handed. It's possible that the instructions she was taught were for right-handers, and she just flips all the positions.
- Most likely of all is that she meant 'right' as in 'correct', not the side.
Left handed sword draw
- Anyone else find it weird that Weiss keeps her sword on the same side as her dominant hand? Just try drawing a (imaginary) sword the same way and unless you are planning a reverse grip you are either twisting your arm and hand in unnatural angles or losing time as you re-adjust. She draws it too quickly in the white trailer to really see how she does it.
- Word of God tweets that it's because Myrtenaster doubles as a pistol. Though still somewhat illogical because of exactly how it stay on her belt, there's also old artwork◊ of Weiss with an early design of Myrtenaster (or at least, its shape). This Myrtenaster seems to have a second handle that would make the draw sensible.
- Drawing a sword from the same side isn't difficult. It's faster and doesn't interfere with your other arm (which, for most cultures, would be carrying and using a shield). The only advantage to cross drawing is it is easier for someone without training because it's one long motion rather than two very short ones. The Roman Legion is the best example of this because they used both. Anyone that expected to draw their sword when someone was literally trying to stab them, wore it on the right (pretty much every Legionnaire). Anyone that would have more than ample time to draw their sword before an enemy got near them wore it on the left (most notably Centurions).
- And if there's any doubt whatsoever on what that troper just stated, this guy shows you in this video that it's in fact, possible to draw a sword, even a long one, from the same side as whatever hand you use, and goes to state the obvious reasons you'd want to do that, such as not having to lower your shield and expose yourself to attack, and not having to risk cutting your reins or your horse's neck if riding one.
- As a left handed person, I actually find the motions easier to preform a left-side draw, and would really only want a weapon on my right side if I was practicing Iajutsu, in which case the drawing motion would be included in a strike. Of course, it used to bother me, thinking it would take longer, but having messed around with rulers and bits of pipe, it's actually really only unintuitive, rather than hard or awkward.
- As another left-handed person, I actually use my right hand for sword-fighting. Everything I picked up, I learned from right-handed people. This includes using guns, as well, even though I'm a better shot with my left hand, I use my right. Keeps shell casings from smacking me in the face, too. Some people are naturally ambidextrous, some people teach themselves to be ambidextrous, some people just imitate others, and learn to do things right-handed without actually thinking about it. It's a weird world, isn't it?
- I'm personally going to use a cop-out, though still valid, reason. Monty Oum wanted it that way. He has admitted that a) he is left handed and b) Weiss' fighting style is based off of his own experience with fencing. He himself probably draws left handed on a left sided sword and just applied what he knew to Weiss.
- As a left-handed fencer, I find that very odd. No fencing coach would teach a first position (the position that resembles drawing a sword) simulating a draw from the dominant hip. But then again, Weiss often stands with her non-dominant side forward, so I'm just going to call it rule of cool. Fencing very rarely involves shooting ice at people, after all.
- It doesn't? Clearly you must be doing it wrong. Try thinking more coldly.
Nora's malfunctioning Hammer Space
- In Episode 4, at the lineup, various camera angles catch sight of Nora... and the apparent weapon she wears on her back (an oblong object that resembles a gun on closeup). When Nora says "See, I told you", its handle rises over her shoulder. The next couple of times you see Nora (including her closeup as she grins as Ren), it's mysteriously missing. Then weapon returns the last time you see her as she is getting launched. When she appears falling near Ren in Episode 5, it is visible again. She does not have it with her in Episode 6 when she "boops" Ren.
- It's probably just an animation glitch. The episodes are sort of still in "beta" when they're first released.
The King Taijitu Grimm
- Is the King Taijitu-type Grim two separate snakes, or one snake with a head on each end? We never see either's whole body and its name is the Eastern word for Yin-Yang, with one head white and one black.
- The diagram in Professor Port's class shows only one head, so it may just be some sort of symbiotic relationship or the snakes are merely intertwined. Hell, maybe Ren just found a pair mating.
- In the cast and crew livestream (10/24) it's mentioned that they are in fact one creature. Miles or Kerry (can't remember off the top of my head) notes that it's barely visible, and expressed some regret over the vagueness in the final product.
Ruby joining Beacon two years early
- Ozpin, the Headmaster of Beacon Academy, invites Ruby to come to Beacon, despite knowing that Ruby said she still had two years of training left at Signal Academy. While her abilities are impressive, it still doesn't make sense to initiate someone at a lower "academy" level two years early.
- Could be easily explained by "Ruby is special", just like every tale of a farmboy hero literally ever.
- The strange comment about Silver Eyes and his unusual focus on her suggest that this wasn't just picking a prodigy and advancing her two years. More on WMG
- Beacon is a combat school, presumably Ruby's performance was good enough for Ozpin to bump her up. Like the headmaster of an engineering college accepting a middle school student who built a working robot in their backyard.
- Ozpin knows that something big is going to happen soon (even though everyone else thinks it's a time of peace), and Qrow is one of his closest allies. Simply put, he needs Qrow's protege in the field ASAP, and doesn't think she'll have time to complete her schooling at Signal.
- Where did it go between the first and second halves of The Badge and the Burden? Is it a stonking great error or did the whole class wait for her to go and get changed during the fadeout. It seems unlikely that Beacon has a uniform for classes but not for fighting in. Maybe it's a technical issue and the uniform models aren't yet optimized for the versatility required in fight scenes.
- Perhaps it wasn't merely an inconsistency when the four girls suddenly appeared for one shot in their normal clothes. Maybe it was to express that they can change outfits at whim.
- The four with their battle clothes on was an error as by the time the episode was uploaded on Rooster Teeth YouTube channel, they were in their school uniforms.
- Beacon's school uniform code is pretty lax either way, and the "Normal" clothes everyone wears seems to be what they're used to fighting in. It makes sense that they wouldn't want their students to have to learn how to fight in a special uniform alongside learning more important things.
- Weiss didn't have her sword on her in class, so she would have to have gone to her room/locker to get it. Perhaps she just felt like changing in that time as well?
- How is it supposed to work? If you try to shoulder it to fire or even fire from the hip, you risk cutting yourself because the axe blades just get in the way.
- Maybe they fold in?
- I'm more concerned with what happens if you fire it when you're trying to swing it. If you use it as an axe, the barrel is pointed towards you. I suppose it's possible that, if the blades do somehow fold, it's mechanically made impossible to fire while in axe mode.
- Port seemed to be swinging it in such a way that the barrel wasn't pointed at him. Still though, it's not the only weapon that sometimes does that. My guess is that some mechanism stops the things firing actual bullets in melee mode, and then aura protects the users from the blast itself.
- It's based off the Blunder Ax from the later 1600's. ◊
- How come not even once in the episode to formally introduce him did anyone even so much as call him out for his actions. The shit he did was beyond uncalled for. For fuck sake! Not even Glinda bothered to criticize him for his attitude towards Jaune after their battle. I can't be the only person who finds him more despicable than any villain to have been introduced so far am I?
- Bullying Jerkasses in Fiction always get away with their crap in fictional schools, so it's not that surprising. Ever seen I Am Number 4? Same lack of logic.
- Depends on how things goes. While in real life, bullying is not tolerated but if teachers/instructors stepped in at the very start, the bullied will never find self confidence in themselves, and things will only get worse from there. The very least they will do is give the bullied, nurture some self confidence into them so that they can at least stand up to the bullies, and watch from the sidelines to prevent things from going too violent.
- But apparently this has been developing for weeks. And considering the newsworthy protests by Faunus's, shouldn't the school be concerned that a student of theirs is furthering this discrimination? We can't really confirm about Ozpin at the moment, but he doesn't seem like the kind of person to turn a blind eye to that.
- Furthermore, the episode prior to this one had Professor Port calling Weiss out on her attitude, but the teachers turn a blind eye to the team of racist jackasses? What the hell?
- Well, it Weiss's case, she did directly confront a teacher.
- A theory spawned on the wikia forums is that Team CRDL and Velvet are in cohort of Ozpin's plan to draw self confidence in Jaune. Whether this is the truth, or not, we will only find out in the next episodes or two.
- Doesn't seem to be working.
- It may not be so much that everyone is turning a blind eye but more that there is an unwritten rule to let the students fight their own fight unless they specifically ask for help. It would also explain why neither Team JNPR or Team RWBY actually help out Jaune even when they are obviously concerned for him.
- That would make sense if Ozpin's speech during Episode 3 applies here.
- I'm sure Velvet appreciates that.
- Maybe the school doesn't help students unless they are willing to ask for it. That way people either learn to last on their own, quit, or show that they can trust their teammates enough to look to them for support.
- Yeah, she appreciates it enough to never talk to or notice Jaune in the slightest.
- It's likely the drama will be milked for all it's worth before Jaune finally grows a pair and knocks Cardin down a few dozen pegs. We may not even get resolution on this before season 1 ends.
- Bullying happens and often times schools don't care enough to intervene. Just watch the documentary Bully.
- Nope, Juane takes a stand when Cardin tries to go after Pyrrha and ends up saving him from an Ursa. Takes a special kind of jackass to continue bullying and blackmailing someone who saved your life, and while Cardin is probably still a jackass, he's not that special.
- Beacon is not really a "school" as we would understand the idea. It's an academy to train monster hunters. In a coldly cynical sense, does someone who can't handle some schoolyard bullying really belong there? Velvet won't stand up to some punks, but is fully expected to slay Grimm for a living? The school is run by a man who thinks initiation should be a life or death scenario. Even if he knew, would Ozpin care?
- Something I just found a bit interesting after digging through a history textbook and an online forum: Cardin's last name, "Winchester" can be connect to the actual Winchester rifle, a rifle common used by settlers in the American western frontier from way back when to more or less kill Native Americans, hence his racist tendency against faunus. However, something interesting relating to Jaune. It's common knowledge that Jaune is based on Juan D'Arc; however, her trail was overseen by a man named Henry Beaufort, otherwise known as the Cardinal of Winchester
- So, apparently Jaune forged documents in order to get into Beacon because he wants to uphold his family's legacy...but then sleeps in class, doesn't study, and refuses help from more experienced people on his team who could help him get stronger, as a team should. And he wonders why he's doing poorly?
- The former two are related to the latter. Because he's not accepting help, he's doing everything on his own, and is too tired to properly study.
- I guess my main question is why should we feel sorry for him because of these circumstances?
- Indeed. Jaune's being written as an Extreme Doormat Idiot Hero. These two tropes do not mix well. Nevermind his inconsistency. He blows Pyrrha off quite handily, showing the first bit of spine since leading JNPR in that scorpion kill. You almost think he's gonna be alright. And then Cardin Batmans into the scene, causing Jaune to instantly revert into Butt Monkey coward mode. This scene set the tone for Jaune's character, and I find myself losing interest in Team JNPR as a result. If Jaune doesn't grow a pair soon, his team is basically screwed for the foreseeable future.
- I don't want to be rude, but I think you're being too harsh on him. People like this exist all the time in real life, and he's merely a reflection of those people. Is it right that he acts this way? No. But likely his Character Development will involve him growing a spine and becoming humble enough to accept help. Indeed, most of this already happened - he stands up to Cardin, then saves him, and finally resolves to accept Pyrrha's offer to help train him, within the same episode, no less.
- Well Jaune just forged papers to enroll in an elite combat academy. One that has plenty of live fire exercises in its curriculum. If he had not partnered with someone like Pyrrha he most likely would have died in that forest, especially if Jaune wound up partnered with a Jerkass like Cardin. Even if he had subsequently survived and found himself in a team, if Jaune did not improve quickly he would have been a weak link that could have cost lives in a mission. Its the equivalent of a Sunday soldier hunkering down together with a platoon of marines. He can't keep up and might cost unnecessary casualties when his team mates try to protect him. Refusing help to improve under those circumstances due to pride is downright irresponsible, even more so since he might have stolen the place in Beacon from someone who should have gotten there on his or her own merits.
- Well, a kid whose highest knowledge of math is the multiplication table finds himself in the advanced calculus class. He's pretty much screwed on his own. Jaune might have been more willing to accept help back in the forest, but he's team leader now so he probably feels he shouldn't be relying too much on his teammates.
- Cue "There's no 'I' in 'team'" speech.
- Juane admits he acted too macho and accepts Pyrrha's help.
- If someone believes that he should be at a certain skill level even if he isn't then it becomes hard to force himself to work hard. In Jaune's case, if his family tradition of being warriors, and perhaps other people telling him he has natural talent based on his lineage, has convinced him that he should be a master warrior, then he will have a hard time applying himself due to the feeling that he shouldn't have to work hard to learn skills that, in his mind, should come naturally to him. Unfortunately, then he feels pathetic and like he needs to prove himself for not having those skills because, after all, he should have learned them with ease.
- He might also have no example of a warrior BEFORE they were awesome. He's only seen/heard his family's stories of great warriors, not the embarrassing goofs they were before Sifu trained them.
- He also seems to view Pyrrha's offer to train him as shades of both pity and insult. That he's a bad fighter and won't get better on his own. Granted these are both kinda true, but he feels like if he doesn't do it himself, then he's not really accomplishing anything.
- The entire chapter of Jaunedice describes Jaune's flaws perfectly. His seemingly unconcerned attitude about Cardin's bullying plus his outburst and pitiful attitude toward his friend and his own person respectively are all signs of a traumatic childhood. This is an ambiguous topic that varies depending on how much a viewer cares or understands Jaune's situation, sometimes both. For some people who think bullying is a lame topic for entertainment, this situation is a waste of time and is hardly fully understood. But for people who have gone through what Jaune has gone, they can relate more than others can imagine and as a result, his character becomes all the more complex and depressing. Sleeping in class are things that are also normal in people, and even so, this topic doesn't really makes much of a difference given the fact Jaune might simply be bad in that particular class. What truly matters to Jaune is his strength as a fighter and basing on the hints he gave during the entire chapter, it's most likely that Jaune has been treated as a loser his entire childhood and any related comment to being not good enough can cause him to remember those traumatic memories and cause him to snap.
That box of Rapier Wasps...
- Cardin planned to use those Rapier Wasps Jaune caught for him on Pyrrha; but when Jaune decided to say no to Cardin's plan (and when that huge Ursa attacked), where did that box go? Did it remain in Forever Fall Forest?
- Glynda found it with CRDL's things when they went back to Beacon, and it got them into trouble
- Or maybe the Ursa stepped on it. We could pretty much guess or make up anything we wanted. Since it's past it's plot significance, we won't get a serious confirmation on the matter.
- Beyond the concept of a walking cane doubling as a rocket launcher-thingy that will quickly fly by all save for those who are incapable of Willing Suspension of Disbelief without trouble, the see-through sights of the weapon popping up from the bottom end is kinda funny since a walking cane would have to touch the ground repeatedly to be used at all and naturally probably render such sights less than see-through. In the first episode where Roman uses it, he interestingly does never seem to use it as an actual walking cane that touches the ground, but his first display of his weapon is right after he uses the cane's bottom end to crush his lit cigar he dropped onto the ground which brings the whole Fridge Logic up again.
- Considering all the crazy weapons that should logically fall apart the moment they're used in this world, it's not too unlikely to assume that the scope is made out of some special material that resists scratches and dirt.
- I was wondering about the existence of such materials as I wrote up this headscratcher!
- Maybe the same material than the solar roadways scam.
- It's not a scope or anything. He doesn't need it to be clean and scratch-free, he just needs to see the crosshairs. Also, it's possible that the sight is recessed slightly into the launcher, just enough that it never actually touches the ground.
- If he didn't actually need to see anything with the sights (for example, because it's covered in mud), I don't think he'd really need the crosshairs at all then since that would be pretty much only slightly better than eyeballing it (which in its own way would justify why it doesn't really matter about its condition). But I doubt making it slightly go into the launcher when not in use would entirely avoid how he crushed a cigar with it.
- It could just be piece of thin plastic or metal shaped like crosshairs with nothing in it.
- I thought of that the possibility myself as well, but the crosshairs are not attached to anything by its sides which would imply that it's painted/drawn/etc. to a transparent material.
- Maybe it's a hologram.
- A crosshair that low to the barrel, that small, that far away would be useless the way Roman uses it anyway. It might be worthwhile if you squinted down the shaft like a rifle, but you can't fire it from that position because the trigger's where the stock would be. The crosshairs are more just a covering for the bore, as well as providing a point on the top of the barrel to help with very rough aiming. And besides, it's a firework launcher. It's not like you have to worry about aiming when you have that big a blast radius.
- In a series with a sniper rifle/scythe that unfolds from a 1ft x 1ft box, is the viability of a set of crosshairs really that big a sticking point?
- I believe, given the fact it seems he never USES the sight looking attachment, that its function is mostly to just keep dirt out of the barrel if and when he uses it as a cane. It popping up is also a easy to see sign that the gun part is armed, at least for the one holding it.
- Faunus are supposedly half-human, half-animal, right? But the only animals we've seen so far are Grimm. So, at one point in history, did humans and Grimm...erm...comingle?
- Nowhere is it said that Faunus are the result of humans and animals breeding. They're probably a genetic offshoot or mutation of humans, or some sort of magically created race. Assuming they're literally half animal is a big leap in logic.
- Nowhere is it said that they're a genetic offshoot or mutation of humans or magically created either, so assuming that, when we've yet to establish this world even HAS the ability to magically create a race, or that humans in this story could offshoot into several different types of animals in such a short time, is probably a bigger leap.
- Maybe. Considering Blake's wistful look towards the Ursa statue, she might feel a kinship with them. Maybe they used to be less monstrous, or even just normal animals. On the other hand, it's probably just that they haven't shown normal animals onscreen to conserve their extremely limited animation budget.
- ...I'm not that concerned with whether or not the Grimm were peaceful at one point. I'm more concerned with the implied notion that HUMANS WERE MATING WITH ANIMALS.
- Weird and wrong as it is, especially to our modern sensibilities, the idea of humans coupling with animals was not an uncommon theme in mythology, and it usually resulted in powerful monsters. I wouldn't be surprised if that was hinted at, though that doesn't seem like the route the RWBY crew would want to state for certain.
- Or the Faunus might be a species completely unrelated to the Grimm or possibly descendants of some highly sapient species of Grimm. We have no idea.
- Again, the issue is not their relation to Grimm, it is their relation to animals in general.
- We've naught but speculation as to where humans themselves come from much less the Faunus. The only line to explain human origins is that they came from Dust...
- "~Black the beast descends from shadows ~"
- This could easily be an in-universe theory. People who look down on Faunus could justify it by claiming they are descended from animals or Grimm. Without any proof as to the Faunus actual origins, which we'll almost certainly never get, it's impossible to say for certain.
- Grimm aren't animals. Pyrrah says so in The Emerald Forest, "Everyone has [a soul], even animals. ... The monsters we fight lack a soul; they are creatures of Grimm." The Faunus we've seen have cat ears, rabbit ears, etc, which no Grimm has. For all we know, some Dust exploded and caused a rabbit an a human to fuse producing the ancestor of a faunus.
- Long story short: Word of God said regular human and Faunus can have half-Faunus children. So they're still primates and at most mutants.
- So... why exactly are Faunus discriminated against? They don't have any weird cultural practices to blow out of proportion, they don't have any amazing power advantages over humans besides night vision for humans to be paranoid/terrified over. They don't even have any accent differences, to the point that they're pretty much exactly like humans in every way. And their only physical difference is, to be perfectly blunt, fucking adorable. These are essentially normal people who are born with adorable animal features. Apparently in every single case. We have not been shown a single faunus, even among the white fang, that terrorist group full of hateful, wronged, desperate and downtrodden faunus, whose animal trait was not something cute like cat/bunny ears or a tail. The closest I could see were horns and antlers, and really, that's still no huge deal. The douchebaggery that is faunus discrimination doesn't seem to have any plausible primitive/instinctual impetus to it. It just strikes me as douchebaggery for the sake of douchebaggery. What kind of brain damage do you have to have to think that people with bunny ears or a monkey tail shouldn't be allowed to vote or hold public office or own property or be treated like a human being?
- You do know that much of human history is full of irrational bigotry? The fact that they're different at all is enough of a reason to be a douchebag for many.
- For "many", yes, not an entire society. In order for bigotry and hatred to be rampant and widespread throughout humanity, there have to be reasons. Bad reasons, yes, incorrect reasons, but the reasons have to exist. LGBT people are discriminated against because (among other things) seeing two men kissing, or a man in a dress, or an exceptionally masculine-looking woman, causes instinctual discomfort in many people, and the further back in history and the more ignorant we are, the more people took these gut reactions of discomfort and acted on them in immature, monstrous and unfair ways. But seeing a person who looks exactly like you except with a tail or funny ears or antlers doesn't cause that kind of discomfort. And the world of RWBY is implied to be roughly at the same level of cultural enlightenment as the modern developed world. There's no way if faunus existed in our world they'd be discriminated against the way black or gay people are (which makes the fact that apparently in the Rwbyverse, faunus are discriminated against way more than the extremely rare colored people that show up frankly absurd). Okay, if people thought they were the devil's work or something, maybe, but in places where that kind of thinking doesn't hold sway at worst they'd get tons of unwanted attention and be oversexualized in the media to hell and back. My point is that we've seen exactly two people be discriminatory towards Faunus. Weiss, who hates them because the white fang played a heavy part in her childhood being utter shit and she has difficulty seeing past that, and Cardin, who's a grade-A jerkass to absolutely everyone. We're all completely in the dark as to what form the bigotry takes because we've honestly never really seen it in its raw form from any character. Sure, we know the impact, like how they're used for underpaid/slave labor and denied service in certain shops, but we're never given the logic behind it in any character who isn't just a generic asshole or traumatized by terrorism. So the implied message is that "the majority of people are just assholes to everyone different for no reason", and that's way too naive and simplistic of a stance to take on bigotry.
- It's not naïve at all. Faunus look different and therefore they're bad. That's the belief. There are numerous cases in the animal kingdom and in history of animals rejecting others because of different colorization or mutations. Evolutionary speaking, animals, and by extension people, tend to identify with those that look what we think they're supposed to look like, ie like us because those people usually would be considered kin and therefore safe. You can't generalize that people won't fear or dislike someone for having ears or horns. I've known people who were bullied for being albino or being a ginger. That's what bigotry is. Hating people who are different and thinking you're better than them. The Faunus's main protest slogan is "We're not animals!" People see those characteristics and assume that they're no different than a cat because they have cat ears and maybe eat a lot of tuna, and honestly there is no good reason for hating someone different. Saying stuff like that is victim blaming or bigotry sympathizing.
- I never said there was a good reason for hating someone different. But not all differences are hated. We're all different, but lots of us are different in "cool" ways. and I'm arguing that a society like RWBY's, which seems to have no issues with the few non-white characters that appear and which seems to be at least at or beyond our level of progress regarding homosexuality according to Word of God, should probably be far beyond the stage of tiny, adorable animal features being grounds for slave labor and hate crimes. And my main complaint is that they don't explain why faunus are hated, because even if the reason is wrong, which it is, the reason still has to exist. And I'm not bigotry sympathizing. Forget that bigots are people, and you forget that people can be bigots. If we don't understand why bigotry happens, then we'll never see the same things in ourselves that haven't been brought to society's attention yet.
- It is quite possible for society to decry one form of bigotry while encouraging another. Plantation-era slaves fought for race equality, yet many of them wouldn't dream of allowing women the vote. The idea that all oppressed people will recognize each other as oppressed and sympathize with each other is a modern one.
- Given that there was an entire war specifically against the Faunus that centered on keeping them in what effectively amounted to a reservation (named "Menagerie," yet), it seems likely that Faunus fill a similar role in the setting as Native Americans in the real world. If people can declare other people to be "subhuman" in the real world based on simply the color of pigments in their skin, or even just their nationality, it seems reasonable that animal features could serve a similar purpose in that world. It's really a great way to invoke Fantastic Racism and serve as a Take That to the real world variety without getting so specific that it doesn't apply broadly. Faunus racism can evoke real-world racism, but it can also evoke LGBT people and any other discriminated-against class. Blake deciding to "pass" for normal rather than taking pride in her heritage is a great example of this.
Weiss and Velvet
- In Episode 15, Weiss reveals she has a distrust and overall hatred of White Fang and Faunus in general, not even willing to acknowledge a difference between ones who are with the extremist organization and ones that aren't. However, in Episode 11, Velvet, a Faunus, was being harassed by Cardin and Team CRDL right in her line of sight. She seemed to be preoccupied with her nails, but she couldn't have not seen it happening AND blocked out all of her friends condemning Cardin's bullying and sympathizing with the hardships of being a Faunus. It's possible that her silence may have been an indirect way of hiding her intolerance while at the same time not showing her being against the bullying, but she's been established before and since then as a very outspoken individual on whatever discussion she chooses, even going on a tirade about White Fang the MOMENT their name came up at the crime scene in Episode 15. Why hold her tongue when during Velvet's bullying, but go full on racist a short time later?
- She's not but just racist seems to hate Faunus who work with the White Fang. She always said "White Fang" or "the Faunus of White Fang", never just Faunus. So, while she still mistrusts Faunus, she's not going to tongue-lash unless she thinks they're crooks like those connected with White Fang (After all if you recall White Fang a peaceful faunus which even to someone who lost family member to White Fang are hurting those guys so is willing to keep her hatred till otherwise.)
- No, she very clearly hates all Faunus. She blames White Fang, but she pretty much considers all Faunus just as bad. She even knew Sun (the monkey guy) wasn't a member and he still called him a filthy degenerate, so clearly it's not just affiliation to White Fang that she hates, she just hates them, period.
- He was a criminal. He rode illegally on that ship, there were police who wanted to arrest him so her dislike of him is justified.
- And I quote: "Those Faunus only know how to lie, cheat and steal." Plus her description of Sun to Penny is of a "filthy Faunus". And even if her hate is centered on White Fang, projecting that anger and mistrust onto ones that aren't in that group is also a form of racism.
- First of all, again filthy faunus, what part of being a criminal, or me mentioning the crook aspect aren't you getting? (Not to mention knowing if they're looking for a human or not might be useful) secondly, that comment to Faunus white fang during Blake and Weiss argument aforementioned organization, that killed family members, employee and her father abusing her due to the actions of said organization. All her hatred is to white fang. I will concede her mistrust to faunus due to her past experiences with White Fang making her believe that any Faunus could be a member of White Fang or join up with White Fang if given the chance might have undertones of this. But I thinks its more of a distrust to all faunus (Especially criminal) joining that group...
- And what part of "projecting that anger and mistrust onto ones that aren't in that group is also a form of racism" do YOU not understand?
- Just to nitpick, I just watched that scene, and the line quoted here was taken from a conversation about the White Fang; when she says "those Faunus" it's entirely possible that she's referring to those specific Faunus who are part of White Fang rather than all Faunus. In fact, the entire argument between Weiss and Blake wasn't really about Faunus in general. Weiss was mad because Blake was defending White Fang, a group that's been harassing and attacking Weiss' family for years, and trying to pass them off as not that bad. In fact, as far as I can remember (and I admittedly might have missed something), Weiss never shows any blatant hatred to Faunus who aren't a part of White Fang. The only exception is the monkey guy, and it's pretty clear that he was actually breaking the law. It's totally true that Weiss has a skewed view of the Faunus, but it's not like she's actively campaigning for them to be banned from Vale or anything.
- I agree that Weiss in her mind was likely arguing against the White Fang, but Blake was arguing in defense of Faunus as a whole. It's why neither one is willing to accept the other's viewpoint. Weiss thinks standing up for a terrorist group is absurd while Blake believes Weiss is insulting the entire Faunus race.
- Let's not get too into that, since Weiss's feelings on the matter are a pretty touchy subject in the fanbase. In Episode 11, she simply had no reason to get involved whichever way you look at it. Nothing was said about Velvet herself, just how nasty Cardin was being. Whatever Weiss thinks about faunus, it wouldn't be worth the argument to try to justify Cardin. This is especially true since, as Jaune said, he's a jerk to everyone, human or faunus, and that includes a friend of most of her teammates (Jaune himself) who she has no reason to show outright hostility towards.
- Another nitpick, she didn't say, "Those Faunus only know how to lie, cheat, and steal", she said, "The Faunus of the White Fang". As previously stated, she almost always said "the Faunus of the White Fang" when saying bad things about them, the only exceptions being when she referred to Sun (and that was because he broke the law), and when she said, "You want to know why I despise the White Fang? Why I don't particularly trust the Faunus?" It seems she doesn't hate Faunus in general, she just doesn't trust them as much as she does humans. It's the White Fang she actually hates.
- Does she have 4 of them? I'm pretty sure I can see human ears on her as well.
- Yes. The other Faunus have also been shown to also have both a pair of human ears and a pair of animal ears.
- Does anyone here know of a mammal with four ears or should we list Blake, Velvet and the rest under Artistic License – Biology?
- Meet Yoda the cat with four ears. http://www.infinitecat.com/cat-tales/may-the-four-ears-b-with-u.html
- Should we really be worrying too hard about the biology of half animal people in a world where ground up crystals can make things freeze solid.
- How can you NOT worry?!
- I suspect that while their "human" ears process sounds the same ours do (language, pitch, rhythm, etc.) their "animal" ears are probably more instinctual, providing a kind of sonar sense (to certain degrees depending on the animal type: cat, rabbit, mouse, bat, etc.)
- Maybe the Faunus ears are non functional? When Blake takes off the bow, there's no ear canal for her kitty ears. Could just be an animation limitation, or it could be that her ears are just decorative.
- More interesting to note that neither Adam nor Sun possess Faunus ears (Adam has horns while Sun... just has nothing).
- Sun has a monkey tail. There's also a silhouetted faunus in Jaunedice who doesn't have any visible animal traits, yet raises his hand when Oobleck asks whether anyone has been discriminated against because of their faunus heritage. Presumably faunus traits can manifest elsewhere on the body than just the head.
- The Double ears thing is do to the limitations of the Poser Program at the moment. You cant remove the human ears for now sadly.
- Aside that you can (many of the regular Poser humanoid figures have morphs to make the ears invisible), this wouldn't matter anyway because the characters in RWBY are built in other software and rigged and animated in Poser. If you don't want a character to have ears, you simply model them without ears.
- Technical limitations aside, I'm pretty sure Blake and other Faunus with animal ears are supposed to also have human ears. If they didn't, that'd be a pretty big (and creepy) tip-off both to the audience and the other characters that they aren't human.
- How is a bow able to hide her Neko ears, anyhow?
- By being an opaque object which is the right shape to cover them without looking unusual enough to draw attention to it?
- ...Huh? I thought it was saying she hid her ears IN her bow, which really isn't physically possible.
- The loops on the bow are clearly large enough for her to tuck her ears into (given it appears to be a ribbon when she removes it, she presumably ties it specifically to wrap around them).
Team selection strategies
- Ozpin talks about how important it is to be paired with people they can work together with well. Yet teams are chosen by entirely arbitrary means. First people get paired up according to who made eye contact first, then those pairs are paired into four-person teams according to who brought back matching chess pieces without anyone being told that that was a team selection criteria. Nobody gets to choose who to be teamed with, and it's all left up to random chance. No transfers allowed. Is this really an effective team assignment strategy? Also, how do they choose team names if they can't get the members' initials to spell anything?
- Well, obviously the entire team would be expelled. Where do you think the teams that got the other pieces in the initiation went?
- Use their last name initials. If that doesn't work either, then you're ''really' screwed.
- Lol... and on topic, I wonder if Ozpin only used the relics as an excuse to team the candidates he had observed to work together best and CRDL simply got roped into it.
- But then how did he know which pieces they'd pick?
- Ozpid had already watch the opening in episode 1 so he knew what the teams would be regardless of criteria and decided to have fun with it.
- Would Ozpin just go, "Nathan, Quentin, Laura, and Xavier, you shall be Team NQLX. Glynda, contact Webster's and get them to make 'naquilox' a word."
- Eh, most schools select dorm mates entirely at random. Granted they allow for transfers, I'm sure if there was some unresolvable interpersonal issues within a team Ozpin or Glinda would allow a transfer. It may be their way of training you that sometimes in battle you don't get to choose your allies and need to learn work with what you have. The Ruby Juniper squad is lucky they work together so well.
- It's possible fate is a very powerful force of nature that exists in this setting, and it's a big determinate of how teams come to be. Still, I'd like to see a Team BAMF show up at some point.
- I think the idea is that they need to be able to work well with anyone. In a full-scale conflict you won't necessarily get to choose who you work with either, so you need to be able to cooperate with whoever you end up with. He's simply preparing them for that. This may also be the rationale behind thrusting Ruby and Jaune into leadership positions — both to force them to grow into the role, and to prepare them and their teammates for the fact that in a real conflict, sometimes the person most qualified to be a leader isn't going to get that opportunity, and sometimes a person who isn't exactly leader material will be forced into being one.
- It could just be a form of psychological testing plus training. The stated criteria on the first part was "the person you meet eyes with first." Seems like if you were being picky about your new partner, you'd size them up from hiding first without them knowing you were there. You know, like a Hunter. As for the pieces, it might be a bit more complex than it looks at first. If these weren't a bunch of Cloudcuckoolanders, they might have subconciously chosen the pieces that fit more towards their usual fighting styles. (And in fact, thinking about it, they DID.) RWBY picked the white knight. They've shown that they are in fact extremely good people who typically fight with a lot of movement and striking from angles people don't expect, such as from above and below. JNPR on the other hand, has two sword and shield people and a hammer wielder. They typically strike straight from the front and use overwhelming force to win. They chose the white rook.
- Like the above poster pointed out it's an opportunity to scope out who you would like to partner with. Which is what Blake, Nora, and Pyrrha used it for. Nora and Pyrrha knowing exactly who they wanted their partners to be and Blake waiting in the shadows to see what Yang was capable of before stepping out and killing the final Grimm note
Ruby and Weiss's Landing strategies
- In Players and Pieces (Episode 8), both Ruby and Weiss fall from a Nevermore. Both have to be saved by Jaune. Come on, ladies, you both have landing strategies that you displayed 3 episodes ago when you were launched off a cliff in The First Step (Part 2, Epsiode 5)! Ruby in particular intended on jumping, so why didn't she use Crescent Rose to slow herself down? Weiss's glyphs should have been the first thing she did after falling. Did they just forget they could fly?
- Probably a combination of Rule of Funny and not being prepared for the fall. Besides, it was a relatively short fall compared to being launched into the forest in the first place. Maybe they just figured they'd be fine, considering their Auras. After all, Jaune survived Weiss landing on him, so clearly they weren't in too much danger.
- This is rather confirmed by the fact that Ruby was only falling because she willingly jumped. Her fall was entirely on her own terms until Jaune hit her.
- Ruby's landing strategy is to fire her rifle in the direction she is traveling so that the recoil pushes her in the opposite direction slowing her speed, in this case her sister was in the way, Ruby's landing strategy would have involved shooting her sister in the head.
- She doesn't have to fire precisely retrograde to slow down for landing, she can bleed horizontal velocity over a longer time than vertical velocity so it would be more advantageous to fire in an inverse normal angle. From that height, her sister and the rest of the ruby juniper squad is a small target, and slight differences in angle result in the reaction mass going significantly further away from your landing destination than the velocity would diverge from desired angle. In short, she could have easily missed her sister with the bullets she's firing to slow down, considering how easily she can hit targets she wants to, and still land near her sister.
- Also, she appears to fire directly at her sister in order to charge at the Death Stalker just a few minutes later, soooo...
Ruby's acceptance into Beacon
- Why exactly did Ozpin immediately push Ruby up two years to get into Beacon? Other than her possible familial connection to Qrow (which would make her a subject of nepotism) and the fact that we wouldn't have a story without it, it seems rather forced. All she did was take out a few thugs and chase down a thief. Is that something exceptional to Hunters-In-Training? If so, it's never established as such, and Ruby's yet to prove herself anything other than a sorta-competent leader.
- She didn't just stop them, she completely wiped the floor with them. There's also the fact that despite skipping two years of training (which makes a difference), she's perfectly capable of keeping up with the other students at Beacon.
- And...? Fighting is something she was trained to do, even before going to Beacon. And again, beating up a few guys was never established as something all that extraordinary. It'd make more sense if she had already graduated and was applying to Beacon anyway.
- While it's true that fighting is what all the students at an academy like Signal are trained to do, the implication is that Ruby is far more skilled than would be expected of someone her age and training. It's not about the strength of the enemy she took down, but the techniques and moves she used to do it.
- It's obvious that Ozpin sees potential in Ruby and finding out about her relation to Qrow seemed to back up his suspicions. He probably felt Ruby's talents would be wasted languishing in a "lower" academy for another two years.
- But aren't there any other ways of testing her potential besides something that any student could do?
- Strong sense of justice, pretty good in action (certainly seems to be better than what we see of Cardin) and two years before she normally would have been qualified to do it. Setting aside what might or might not be a hint about her eyes being special or something, there doesn't seem to be a reason not to make an exception for her.
- It wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be like Naruto or Soul Eater where the students the story focuses on are extraordinarily talented. Cardin may very well be a good indicator of the abilities of the average Beacon student, meaning Ruby is unusually skilled even before entering Beacon.
- I'm thinking that this would well fall into WMG territory since Ozpin seems to be hiding many things. Hopefully we'll find out in later seasons.
- "You... have silver eyes."
- Ozpin does say that she's the best scythe user he's seen next to the best scythe user he knows.
- Season 2 seems to have answered that, it isn't mandatory to go through any kind of prep school to get into Beacon. If you can handle the entrance exam you're in. It's just that most people need to spend years training.
Volumes vs Seasons
- If each volume comes out at the same rate (and length) as an RvB season, why make the distinction between volumes and seasons when they're basically the same?
- Stylistic choice. It's to make it seem more like a series of books than a television show.
- But then why say that every two volumes makes up a season?
- Could be a matter of content production rate versus the length of the story. A "season" is a larger narrative arc, while a volume is a production measurement.
- A "volume" can be used to describe a single collection of videos on a DVD which is itself part of a larger group (grandfathered in from tapes and derived from the same terminology in print publication). That's probably the context it's being used in here (given the DVD is being sold as volume one).
Team CRDL's admittance.
- How did those assholes get into Beacon? Beacon is supposed to be a top-tier Hunter training academy, possibly the best in the world, but they're depicted as a bunch of stupid, cowardly, incompetent thugs. Yeah, they'll do better than an average person, but the only average people that get into Beacon is through falsified records.
- Bullies are present in every institution, no matter how prestigious. Also, CRDL aren't portrayed as stupid, they're portrayed as lazy. Which makes quite a bit of sense, really: a lot of people in top-tier institutions have high natural talent and are used to coasting through life with little effort. And finally, we really have no idea how competent they are in a fight (they did run from that Ursa, but to be completely fair that was a big Ursa and it caught them off-guard). They did, after all, make it through that initiation test in the forest with little apparent trouble.
- Plus, if you admittance is refused due to who you are, Weiss wouldn't have made it in, Yang wouldn't have made it in, Blake wouldn't have made it in, Nora wouldn't have made it in. Come to think of it, a lot of people wouldn't have made it in. But they aren't judging character, they're judging skills. Like it was already said: They made it through initiation. If you survive, you become a hunter. If you die, well you're dead so we don't really care!
- Ozpin's speech in Episode 3 directly references the above statement: they are there to help the students, but ultimately, the successes/failures/everything else were up to them, not the school. So therefore, they have no real reason to refuse anyone who passes the requirements, regardless of actual skill, personality, or other factors. Even those who who got in with falsified records, because either solution (death or proving their skills) solves the problem either way.
- Volume two shows CRDL fight, and they are actually pretty skilled. Certainly enough to justify them getting into Beacon at any rate.
Pyrrha's attraction to Jaune
- Why would you think Pyrrha, a famous, smart and talented girl (and not to mention nice) be attached to Jaune, who's a bumbling nobody (even after Jaune reveals that he faked his transcriptions to Beacon)? I'm guessing either:
- Weakness Turns Her On (maybe that's too much, though)
- She knows that Jaune comes from a line of great Hunters and, even if he doesn't live up to his ancestors' name, she's nice enough to help, so as to unlock his true potential.
- He's handsome.
- Like some guy above posted, she's secretly hired to be his bodyguard (the one hired her may even be Jaune's parents).
- I doubt it.
- Undying Loyalty.
- She likes natural blondes and just went off from there?
- She's a famous athlete, and maybe most people she meets only see her as just that. As a result, she never really met anyone who would treat her as an equal. Then comes along Jaune, who has no idea who she is other than the fact that she appears on cereal boxes, and he talks and treats her like an equal.
- While I like how this sounds, Jaune also notes that those who appear in the cereal box are either famous athletes or cartoon characters. So it is likely that Jaune knows, at least superficially, that Pyrrha is a famous athlete. Regardless, he still talks to her like an equal.
- According to some of the other nerdlings, First, she's team mom and he needs the most help. Second she's a hardcore humble superstar and he has NO idea who she is so she can "relax" because he's a not a "fan" lastly do to her celebrity standing people either want her for the status, the money and/or she has a fear of actually talking to people. He is an awkward person who is easy to actually approach.
- In addition to (possible) Weakness Turns Her On, she could really not care that Jaune is incompetent (least at first, the Ursa Major is starting to move him away from that), quite simply. Thus, his hesitant, nice, bumbling personality is seen as very likable - plus, there was once a Fridge on RWBY's page that humans give off very faint electromagnetic attractions... so literally, opposites attract (and it's no coincidence that Pyrrha's Semblance IS polarity).
- I'm thinking it might have something to do with Jaune's Aura. She might have sensed something in it or about him that drew her to him, but that might be a bit too mystical.
- In addition to all of that, what makes anyone attracted to anyone else? The heart wants what the heart wants, even if it doesn't have a reason why.
- I've always thought that maybe Pyrrha found Jaune endearing, and might also have never had any real friends — just people who knew her as a celebrity — so him not immediately knowing who she is and trying to exploit her fame and skills may have endeared him to her further. In fact, he kind of brushes her off from the beginning. She might be so used to people fawning over her that she actually likes that. Another theory I have is that he reminds her of someone she lost, perhaps a brother or a close friend/boyfriend.
- With the revelation of how Pyrrha uses her Semblance to win battles, it raises many interesting possibilities regarding her character and personality, including her attraction to Jaune. It's still not clear of using Semblance in tournament battles is allowed (though it would make sense that it isn't, since those are suppose to be tests of skill), but if Pyrrha did use her Semblance to win in such a way, it would make sense why she is so humble and down to earth despite being such a famous and accomplished athlete. She doesn't act proud because she knows she's cheating, and thus, doesn't deserve the praise. This might also explain her view of Jaune, since he also cheated to get into Beacon, and he doesn't quit or give up despite lacking anything resembling her skills or powers. He's both her mirror image and her polar opposite, and that's what she's attracted to.
- There is no reason whatsoever to think that using your Semblance in a tournament is considered cheating. First of all, using your Semblance is a skill. Second of all, if contestants couldn't use their Semblance, that would leave many contestants unable to use their primary fighting method — for example, Weiss wouldn't be able to use her glyphs. It would unduly handicap certain fighters and fighting styles, making it less fair than allowing Semblances would. It makes more sense to think that everyone is allowed to use their Semblance and thus fight to the best of their respective ability. Third of all, if it were cheating, I imagine the people running the tournaments would thus have measures in place to detect when someone is using their Semblance.
- Answered in S 2 E 7: He didn't know her before meeting her and treated her more like a person than a celebrity/hero.
Do not. Touch. The hair.
- A relatively minor thing, but why didn't Yang flip out as usual when her hair got all messed up in the food fight?
- The last two times were because she'd lost strands of hair, literally. There in the cafeteria fight, it was merely messed-up and splattered, which could easily be washed - perhaps the latter isn't a big deal to her, for that reason or another.
- In the first episode of volume 2, Ruby makes references to Lincoln, Nixon, and MLKJ. Is there a particular reason for this? It just seems weird to be making allusions to real-world historical figures.
- I think the joke was that her speech was a mishmash of other famous speeches. The Order of the Stick did something similar.
- RT has said about RvB in the past that if it comes down to continuity or making a good joke, continuity is going out the window. While RWBY is a different show with different themes, this is not surprising. Plus, it somewhat resets the mood and imagine she's using similar well known quotes from their world instead but we wouldn't get those references so we get substituted references.
- Considering their world has a "Spruce Willis", I like to think they have their own versions of Lincoln, Nixon, MLKJ, the associated quotes, and Watergate.
Nightmare Fuel page
- I can't remember if there was one for this show or not, and if there was, what happened to it?
- There isn't one as of yet. What would you add?
- Don't know what OP would add, but from the second season alone:
- Tukson's past catching up to him in the form of assassins.
- The deconstruction of being aware of an evil plot.
- The fact that the two assassins that Tukson faced and their similarly murderous leader have infiltrated a public school.
- OP here, I would add that, plus the implications Ozpin made when he was suspicious of Blake.
- and now it's gone. with no trace of what it had, not even in the YMMV page.
- Seriously, why did someone take it down? There are plenty of scary things about RWBY, after all.
- Like what? Any part that the Grim pop up? Weiss getting a scar from a Dark Souls boss fight? The vague circumstances of the Black Trailer? The hyped-but-terrible voice acting in that trailer? A frowny face somewhere in a corner? If we add a Nightmare Fuel page, I could trust tropers to go completely hugbox with it just like MLP. Nightmare Fuel and Tear Jerker have turned into the new Troper Tales, and that REALLY isn't a good thing.
- There are examples listed above that were in the page, among other things. And that doesn't even include the recent revelations about the Grimm, or the fact that just about every faction, good or bad, is fine with using child soldiers. Thus there are examples of nightmare fuel. Thus there should be a page. Deleting it over an assumption of how tropers would act is not ok, especially given that they didn't act that way at all in the weeks the page existed, and haven't done that at all in months with the tearjerker page, the other target for your argument. I fail to see any valid reason for its conspicuous absence.
Cinder held back a few years
- Ok, isn't Cinder a little old to be a student? And on another note, Ruby already fought Cinder, shouldn't she (and Glynda for that matter) recognize her?
- No one said she's actually a student; she's likely just pretending to be one, posing as visitors for the tournament, and plenty of people can be Older Than They Look + Younger Than They Look. Also, the three of them fought at range, at a distance of 20-or-more feet - if Cinder was far back enough, the lighting might not be enough to see her from down there (shadowed animation aside).
- Plus the incident was literally before the first semester of Beacon began, and she's only reappeared now after months, during the start of the second. Despite that, the pause 'stare' between Ruby and Cinder suggests there was a 'have I seen her before?' process; it just didn't take yet.
- Plus when Cinder use her power her eyes glow yellow instead of orange which probably helps a bit in Ruby not realizing who it is.
- Glynda and Ruby likely couldn't see Cinder's face any better than we could during that initial fight.
- The most recent (August 2014) Q&A livestream addresses this - apparently Cinder is older than the main cast, but not by a huge amount. They don't say how old she is, but early twenties seems to be the oldest she could be. The gang also note that some people can very easily pass for much younger than they are, with Lindsay citing 27-year-old-but-perpetually-baby-faced Michael as a prime example.
- Cinder's Semblance is to disguise herself. You can see her use it right after the infiltration to get back to the dance. She could probably do it at any age.
- A major reason most people already guessed Penny's secret before The Reveal was because it was hinted that she wasn't normal. But aside from her personality (which could have other explanations), the hints are given by a character who shouldn't find anything too unusual. Ruby's reaction to Penny's combat style suggests that it is strange and that she can't understand how she does it. Yet we've already seen two other characters demonstrate abilities that look very similar (Glynda and Pyrrha, though we didn't see the latter's used quite like this until Volume 2.) Why didn't she just assume Penny was manipulating her weapons with her Semblance?
Then in Episode 3 of Volume 2, Ruby is as shocked as everybody else nearby when Penny stops the truck with her bare hands. We already know — and so should Ruby — that proper application of Aura could allow a person to do that, as demonstrated for us by Ren's fight with the King Taijitu. It was clear from these reactions that she would be revealed as non-human, but the reactions don't really make a lot of sense from somebody who exists within that world. They're not exactly impossible abilities for the people there.
- In Ren's case, he used his Aura as a shield, and further as a force-wave; it didn't give him extra strength. So even using Aura, it's doubtful anyone could stopping a speeding truck with their bare hands (cold, at that). Thus even in this world, it's not something your average person could do, and thus is extraordinary.
- Plus all the magic we've seen so far has involved some sort of focus and fancy mage-y gestures. If episode 16 was anything to go by, Penny has the ability to anchor herself or weighs a tonne (she could pull down an aircraft which was travelling under its own power and stopped the truck rather than being pushed; the energy had to go somewhere). Even if that's possibly, there's also the fact Ruby might have been shocked that Penny was able to do it, rather than that it was unusual (remember that team RWBY took out a Grimm which can threaten entire fleets of aircraft; even if you're extraordinary, it's going to be a shock to meet someone on the same level).
- Perhaps Aura can be seen or sensed by other Aura users, in ways that don't necessarily show up on screen. What Ruby saw wasn't a person stopping a truck, but a person stopping a truck without exuding any Aura at all. No pretty lights. No chiming. Just the action itself...which should have required Aura, but did not. It would have looked uncanny.
- Except that Penny explains that she is The World's First Synthetic Person Capable of Generating an Aura, so her powers are aura based. Besides she knows Penny is planning to enter the tournament and has already seen her fighting. It should be obvious that she's at least as powerful as any Beacon student. The likely explanation is that Monty needed her to scratch her hands to reveal the metal interior and that's the best they could come up with.
- Given that Penny is at least partly made of metal, the implication is that her Super Strength isn't entirely based off Aura.
- So, if Yang gets stronger the more she gets hit, why does she even bother blocking or dodging? Just let the attacks hit, pump herself up, and then slap down her opponent. Go Shaw on everybody!
- It's probably like a Limit Break in Final Fantasy. She can't take a beating indefinitely and if a strong enough attack gets through, she'll be too dead to counterattack.
- It's also probably the fact that Yang's a Blood Knight; 99% of those want (or even need) to extend the fights so that they last longer, and thus the person has more fun. Sometimes they even get a kick out of doing so while at not-full-power, even if it's not practical, or even if the fight has pressing needs to be ended as soon as possible.
- Don't forget that Nora technically beat her during the food fight by hitting her so hard that she was actually removed from the battlefield.
- There's Strength, there's Defense and there's Health. Her attacks get stronger and it looks like the same is true for her counter defense but her health continues to plummet - don't want to get too worn down early that you can't fight back later. Think MMO Tank with increasing DPS as it soaks damage - there will still be bosses that can kill it.
- Hey, Huskar in Dota 2 isn't invincible. Rightclick as all get out, yes, but still beatable. It's the same concept.
- There's also how Neo beat her; just don't let Yang hit you back and wear her out.
- Problem with that. Yang herself has been shown to take impacts that would outright cripple if not maim an ordinary human being. Such acts involve being slammed into a road support by a mech before getting punched through it, falling from a massive height, and she's taken multiple kicks after taking on a group of mooks to the end. Her level of strength seems fairly consistent until that fight. You would think a few kicks and a train ceiling were hardly her achilles heel.
- If Semblances are hereditary (per Word of God) why doesn't Jaune know what his is?
- it's possible he doesn't know what his family's semblance is. It doesn't exactly seem like something people broadcast. Besides genetics can be tricky.
- Another possibility is that he knows, but he doesn't want to say what it is (perhaps he wants to learn how to fight without one, which would make for an interesting contrast with Pyrrha; especially if he assumes she doesn't use hers). Then again, he didn't know what aura was until Pyrrha told him, so maybe his family's semblance was never explained to him (maybe the Arc family hasn't produced a warrior in a while?).
- Semblance being hereditary was something Monty and the writers were kind of "ehhhhh" about, and that it was "a definite maybe" or something to that effect, so I wouldn't count on it being 100% certain at all times. They hadn't really thought to hard about it until the question was asked. If Jaune's is hereditary, he probably doesn't know what it is because, since he was never formally educated about Aura, he wouldn't know what his ancestors Semblance was if it bit him.
Crossovers with the other Rooster Teeth series
- Taking into account Executive Meddling from Microsoft so they can know their merchandise is being properly represented, are there any other reasons why we're not likely to see this?
- Most likely the lack of setting appropriate characters from other RT series. The cops from RT Shorts were used in one episode.
- Yeah, the setting differences between RWBY and other Rooster Teeth series makes it rather difficult to include charatcers between them. I can't exactly see a Red vs. Blue and RWBY crossover simply because the differences in setting are so huge; RWBY's fantasy, and Rv B is more science fiction. We do see some crossovers: like the troper above me said (on a related note, why aren't those cops used more, I love seeing them), but a crossover between their two biggest series is pretty much out.
- In the series proper, I would expect that any team who put in enough effort to generate possibly 7 seasons worth of story before digging into one would not be willing to shove aside that story for the sake of doing a crossover. There's little reason to merge them from a story perspective. However, I would not be surprised if a PSA or two in the future had a bit of a crossover just like we had the animated recap.
Jaune's cross dressing as humiliation.
- ...Why? If Beacon is Queer-accepting as Monty claims, then Jaune's cross dressing shouldn't be funny: it should be considered as common and normal and accepted because Transgender and Transsexual people would do it all the time. So why is everyone laughing at a guy in a dress?
- Because if a guy walks into a room full of 17-year oldsnote in a dress that doesn't fit him properly, it will incite laughter because he looks odd (crossdressing for laughs isn't the same thing as crossdressing because you're trans*; the dress was noticeably unflattering, the wrong shape for his body and probably deliberately sonote ). Much in the same way he'd probably get the same response if he was wearing Professor Port's usual outfit, what they think of people who wear it every day for other reasons doesn't come into it. Furthermore it wasn't humiliation; Jaune clearly found it as funny as everyone else.
- Because it's still a reflection of the more evolved side of modern society which is still in transition period and still hasn't come to grips with all aspects of removing the lines on social stigmas. Also, transgender people make up less than 1% of the population so maybe two people in that entire room - not necessarily enough to make something like that seem common or normal
- They aren't laughing at "a guy" in a dress, they are laughing at Jaune, a goofball and known flirt with women, in a dress. Any actually trans individual would dress like that on a day to day basis, and would not elicit the same reaction, not because everyone is wonderfully accepting, but because it's not something unusual for them to see.
- Doylist answer: Monty wanted Beacon to not have any of those ugly real life prejudices, but didn't take into account story events that rely on said prejudices to make sense.
Velvet's Student Status?
- All right so at the end of Episode 8, Team RWBY has a conversation with Velvet where she refers to them as "you first years". This is extremely suggestive of Velvet putting herself in a different category, meaning that she is not a first year student. That being the case, it seems odd that she would be in Oobleck's history class with them. Furthermore, it makes Cardin's bullying of her ludicrously unlikely. Is the series implying that she is that much of a doormat that she would put up with nonsense like that from someone who is, in every way, her junior? Even if I accept that she is, presumably the rest of her team are not first years either, so what were they doing during Cardin's extremely public bout of racism?
- It's not actually unusual for younger students to bully older ones (even teachers can be bullied in some cases); especially when you consider Cardin's a good head taller than her (her team might just not have been around, or they might not have been able to intervene before she ran off). As for Oobleck's class; since Beacon appears to be more like a university than a school, it's possible students of different years can attend the same classes/lectures. It's also possible she wanted to speak to Oobleck about Cardin.
- Plus not to mention, racism over Faunus is still fairly common, as Ozpin sadly comments on - for bullies like Cardin, this would be just the sort of justification he'd need. In Velvet's case, obviously her team wasn't around during the incident - and perhaps she told them not to get CRDL back.
- At a normal high school, yes, these things make sense. But Beacon is supposed to be a school for training badasses. I would imagine that part of the process of learning to be a badass is learning how not to be a doormat. If Cardin and Velvet were both first year students, that scene would have made a lot of sense. But now that we know Velvet has had badass training that Cardin has not had, it makes a lot less sense.
- Velvet has been stated by Monty to be a "mage" type fighter, which probably means direct combat isn't her strength. Cardin, on the other hand, is a pure bruiser, close-range is his specialty. It's entirely possible that Velvet wouldn't be able to beat Cardin in a one-on-one fight. Plus, Cardin had his team with him then, and she didn't.
- Coco held Velvet back from "wasting" her weapon on a bunch of Mook and Elite Mook level Grimm. While this can be looked at as an entirely meta thing—the "build up" being the suspense built up from waiting to see its use—one could also theorize that as the "mage" type member of an obviously powerful upper class team, anything other than her basic hand-to-hand moves might have been too dangerous to use on other students. She might not like the bullying, but that doesn't mean she couldn't have done something about it... something that could get her expelled or arrested.
- Bullying happens at police academies, military boots camps, police stations, military bases, legal offices and all sorts of other places you'd expect most people to be "badasses"note .
- In re Velvet being in the same class as first-years, it's not uncommon for real-world high schools to have electives that can be taken in different years, and it's even more so how colleges are set up. Perhaps the class was full in Velvet's first year, or she had other priorities at the time.
- It's mentioned that Pyrrha creates the illusion of untouchability by using her semblancenote to ward away opponents' weapons. If this is the case, how was Mercury the first person to notice their weapon being moved against their will? For that matter, what if she fights someone whose weapon isn't made of metal?
- To answer your second question: Pyrrha is not reliant on her semblance. Nobody who wasn't very experienced in regular combat would have be able to dodge or chain attacks together like she does. Her Semblance is not the core of her fighting ability, but it gives her an edge- and reputations like hers would intimidate even someone who wasn't susceptible to polarity. That's why morale is so important on the battlefield.
- As for the first part, clearly Pyrrha has only used her Semblance in small bursts - in the midst of combat, the little movements of her diverting weapons/armor would be imperceptible to most. In Mercury's case though, because his entire fighting style is delivered via kicks, he must be intimately familiar with the motions and how they feel... So when Pyrrha manipulated his last kick, he could feel the difference, and deduced it as such.
- Watch those fights again. The kick Mercury detects the semblence is the first time Pyrrha uses it between them. If you look at the CRDL curb stomp, she uses her semblence only a few times (and not even every time she gets hit) - 2:02 when she's in the air and she uses it to deflect Cardin's attack so she can shift momentum against him and his teammate and 2:25 (maybe) when she's getting charged and takes two blows on the shield. It's unlikely the latter could've been detected but the former could easily look like her skill rather than her semblence. Really, Pyrrha's just got that much martial skill.
- Furthermore, he was trying to figure out her semblance the whole time. He may have even already guessed at it, the fight provided confirmation.
- So far, aside from a noted exception in Ozpin, every character has had a name associated with a color... Except for Glynda. Looking into her name, I cannot find any etymological association between her name and a color.
- So far, Glynda's name has two connections (taken from RWBY wiki). 1) A reference to Glinda the Good Witch of the South (obviously), and 2) 'Glynda' comes from the Welsh words 'glan' (holy, fair) and 'da' (good).
- How do the Schnee's workers/slaves mine Dust without the protection of unlocked Auras? note And if their Auras are unlocked, how does the family avoid being overthrown by their substantial, rebellious, superhumanly resilient workforce? (One can only throw so many bodies at a killer robot before the robot is destroyed...)
- Protective equipment.
- I assume it's similar to real-life sweatshops. While people who are well-off consider the conditions terrible, it's still better than the people working there being unemployed. Since there's prejudice against faunus, it's difficult for them to get a job, so they're willing to work in harsher conditions for less money. You can throw as many bodies at starvation as you want. It won't go away.
- On a more technical note, while it is shown that Dust is highly volatile (being sensitive enough for Ruby to detonate with a sneeze), it's stated that Dust requires Aura to trigger it. Think of it as being a mix of oxygen and hydrogen: together the most volatile chemicals on planet earth, but separate them and they're relatively inert. As for Ruby detonating it, she did inhale the Dust, which could have resulted in it mixing with her Aura.
- Isn't hydrogen extremely volatile on its own and utterly harmless (water) when mixed with oxygen?
- You can't have fire without oxygen. And water isn't a mixture, bonding the hydrogen and oxygen into water is a chemical process. Burning the hydrogen *will* creat water though.
- Why is the Schnee family name pronounced English-style? "Weiss" is one thing, but "shnee" sounds really silly (as opposed to German "shnay"). To a German-speaker, this makes the name a downright Bilingual Minus. And in-story, you'd think a rich family, and Weiss in particular, would be hoity-toity about the proper foreign pronunciation of their name — modulo Translation Convention, of course.
- This one's been answered under Gratuitous German on the main page. Put simply though, all normal pronunciation/naming/etc guidelines from our world don't have to apply in RWBY.
- Fair enough. What I mean by "modulo Translation Convention" is that what we see/hear as a German name would normally correspond to some foreign country that does exist in-story, but if that's not the intention, okay. But that doesn't so much answer the question as move it. Why does Monty prefer this silly pronunciation?
- I would assume that Monty is not very familiar with German pronunciation rules, and just chose the name because it sounded neat. He decided to go with how an English-speaker would instinctively pronounce it. As far as the average native English-speaker (the intended audience) is concerned, the pronunciation doesn't sound odd.
- Who are you to question someone's preference?
- Ignoring the preference aspect, Monty himself had Weiss use fencing because he himself had studied fencing - so really, I'm assuming he did his research into the name, and it's pronunciation. And he simply choose the way it sounds now
- Monty's official explanation is "Germany doesn't exist in Remnant. The German language does not exist in Remnant. Weiss's name is therefore not German, so it is not pronounced in the German manner."
- I can't remember where I heard it (I believe from this website), but I believe the exact quote Monty said about Weiss' name and why it isn't pronounced in the German method; "Because, it's an interpretive world, Germany doesn't exist, and fuck you." I'm fairly certain that's the exact quote (I'm definitely sure that the last 3 words were part of it), so I think he was getting pretty annoyed about being asked that constantly.
- So... we have Taiyang Xiao Long, Raven Branwell, Qrow Branwell and Summer Rose. Didn't Ruby, or at least someone explicitly say Qrow was Summer's sister? If so, why does his surname Raven's? More over... If Yang had always thought Summer Rose was her mother, why didn't she question the naming discrepancy? And if there was no discrepancy... Why the different names? I just can't wrap my head around this, or maybe I just don't want to. Can someone please explain this in terms I can understand?
- I don't recall anyone explicitly saying that Qrow and Summer were related, beyond Ruby referring to him as "Uncle." But Aunt and Uncle are also often used in reference to close family friends. As for why Summer didn't share Taiyang's last name, we don't know if they were ever married. Even if they were, people don't always change their surnames to match their spouses'. As for why Ruby and Yang don't share a last name...I don't know. Maybe her parents decided that "Ruby Rose" sounded better than "Ruby Xiao Long."
- As far as not having similar last names, Monty (and Burning the Candle) have already explained this: they're half-sisters. Taiyang probably kept their names separate out of respect for the two women.
- Besides, Qrow is Ruby's sister's uncle. It wouldn't be too hard for her to decide "Okay, this guy is my uncle despite not actually being related to me." When she was younger, she probably didn't even understand the distinction.
- Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the assumption that Yang's mother's identity had not yet been revealed. And, despite the fact that Raven looks nearly identical to Yang, their relationship is still a mystery. And wasn't Qrow's last name being Branwen also just speculation?
- While Raven Branwen was a speculated name (before its confirmation during the final episode's stinger), Qrow's surname, like Yang's father's name, was originally confirmed by Monty Oum himself. This information came long before the confirmation of Taiyang Xiao Long in the show (and both on the same day), so while some have speculated that the Monty Oum who appeared here at tropes and over at the RWBY wiki was a fake, this has proven to be a pretty stupid assumption. Due to Taiyang, it's a safe bet that these leaks were made by the real Monty.
How Many Is Too Many?
- In "Field Trip", it's explained that team CFVY was delayed in their return to the school due to there being "...so many..." Grimm at their mission location. Come finale time, and CFVY cuts down a few dozen Grimm in 15 seconds or so. This, of course, begs the question of just how many Grimm there would have to be to represent a credible threat to the team. So: is it an absurd case of discrepancy between stated power and demonstrated power, or are there just hundreds of thousands of Grimm strolling around every populated area?
- Considering the fact that, before they harnessed Dust, mankind struggled just to survive at all... and even after they harnessed it, there's still 'only' four big points of civilization on the entire planet, with many attempts at expansion being overrun easily... it's quite possible there's millions of Grimm swarming around, if not more. And even the weakest can cause serious damage to humans/faunus if they can land a hit
- There is a big difference between a mission that lasts for days, especially one where there are far more targets than initially planned, and a single battle.
- Don't forget they had Glynda there, who can use her Semblance to seal the breach quickly. Things would have gone very differently without her. Compare Attack on Titan, where it's repeatedly made clear that the reason they lost Wall Maria wasn't because one or two or ten or even a hundred titans were too many, but simply because there was no end to them. Due to Glynda, there was an end to the Grimm inside Vale.
Velvet's Weapon and why was it not used?
- What is Velvet's weapon and why was it so important to NOT use it during team CFVY's last mission, the mission that ended a week late because there were "so many". Coco made it sound like it's something that shouldn't be wasted but in the event that they need to protect people they should be using all their resources to do so, and it sounded like they were up against A LOT of Grimm. Though that mission probably didn't involve protecting people, just killing Grimm.
- Considering how easily they can handle most Grimm, and how much apparent effort Velvet put into building her weapon, Coco was probably saying 'make it's first appearance count'. Being an Action Fashionista, it's kinda like her, and she certainly didn't seem to treat a full-scale invasion of (mostly Mook-level) Grimm as a big deal in the first place.
- The "Design Velvet's Outfit" contest also mentioned that she was mostly a support mage, so her acting offensively is probably a last resort (in which case the scene is basically Coco telling her to calm down). Maybe her weapon is something along the lines of "one powerful attack every so often", like Black Mage's Hadouken?
- The reason is actually quite mundane - and completely meta. She doesn't use it simply to tease the audience, and the comment about building it up is about building *hype*. They are apparently saving that one for an eve more bad ass scene later on.
Shadowy Council of Vagueness Reasoning
- So at the end of season 2, some council places Ironwood in charge of the Vytal festival's security instead of Ozpin, as a response to the events of the finale. Uh...what the hell? Did they not notice Beacon's forces saving the day? Team RWBY and Oobleck deflecting the brunt of a terrorist attack, Glynda sealing the breach, team CFVY mopping up the Grimm...The huntsmen performed admirably and did way more than the Atlasian military. In fact, I'd be concerned with how dozens of heavy military robots fell into the hands of the White Fang.
- Ozpin failed. He overruled Ironwood's suggestions toward addressing the Torchwick/White Fang threat and insisted on doing things his way. And the end result was that Beacon's defenses were breached and Grimm were allowed into the city, causing an unknown (to us) amount of damage. That the Beacon hunters were able to do damage control on the situation is merely the silver lining on the cloud of Ozpin's actions allowing a threat to the city going unstopped until it was almost too late. In fact, if the council is aware of Ozpin's choice to send a group of underaged students to tackle a serious terrorist threat, resulting in catastrophe precisely because they were too weak to handle the enemy, it's more surprising they haven't fired him already.
- Woah, hang on there, like the OP points out if Ozpin failed what exactly can be said about Ironwood? A major terrorist org was able to obtain dozens of mech suits from right under his nose. Mitigated somewhat for that tech being slated for eventual commercial use but it hadn't even been demo'd by the time Roman got his hands on it. The Atlasian military's lack of internal security directly lead the WF being much better armed then they were. And Ozpin's objections were mostly perfectly sensible. You should be worried when a neighboring power decides to park war ships and a battalion next to one of your major metropolis areas even if they're your allies. Maybe this is just an example of politicians trying to look like they're holding guilty parties responsible and that they're on top of the issue but their reasoning seems off here.
- Ironwood is not personally responsible for every piece of hardware produced by/for the Altasian military. He's a general, armory security is well below his pay grade. While it is not a great sign of his competence that the mechs were stolen, that is far more likely to be caused by corruption/incompetence by one of his subordinates than any personal errors on his part. The solution is he just looks into who screwed up and replaces them. Or, more likely, he has someone else do the checking because generals delegate, that's what they do. And all this is assuming the Paladins were stolen from Ironwood's command and not the manufacturers or a part of the Atlasian military not under his command. As for Ozpin, his objections would have some merit if he had a viable alternative. But he doesn't. His "plan" was to send a single team of students who were outclassed by the mission they were expected to complete in addition to addressing the threat. And he sent them because he knew they would find a way to get involved anyhow. So, to sum up, the only thing he did to address a looming terrorist threat was to approve a group of students going on a mission outside their skill level. Add the implicit lack of control over his subordinates this situation indicates, and it becomes obvious that Ozpin doesn't really deserve his authority if this is how he uses it.
- It doesn't matter if Ironwood is personally responsible for each project's security. Weapon development on this scale is not beneath his paygrade. He is ultimately (in this case one would assume to those shadowy council people) responsible for what happens in his military and losing the RWBY equivalent of a drone is something he should be reprimanded for. And while this troper agrees Ozpin sending a rookie team was a mistake, judging from Torchwick's response and decision to just start the operation early, Ironwood's plan would have been a massive failure. He intended to send every available hand after the White Fang base with no knowledge of where it was. It's likely his armada would have been spotted and Torchwick would have done the same thing he did against team RWBY. Except now instead of hundreds of mechanized soldiers there to protect the streets or a huntress team to hold off the tide until help arrived, Grimm would have had free access into the city.
Ruby and Yang birth timelines
- Ruby is two years younger than Yang. Yang's mom left Taiyang shortly after Yang was born. Unless there's a few extra months between the girls' births that we don't know about, that means that Taiyang moved on from his first wife leaving him, resettled with Summer Rose, and fathered Ruby in 15 months. That seems a little unrealistic, unless Taiyang and Summer had started seeing each other while Tai was still married.
- At the moment, we don't know if they were married at all (any of them) - plus love can (and has) happened in such short amounts of time, even less in more extreme cases
- More importantly, why do they have different last names if they share a father?
- Monty answered that one; they're half-sisters, and their father kept their last names separate out of respect for both women.
- That's not how it works.
- Why not? Parents can choose to name their children whatever they want. Taiyang and Raven decided to name their daughter Yang Xiao Long. Taiyang and Summer decided to name theirs Ruby Rose. It's just personal preference, and Remnant places a great deal of emphasis on individuality.
- You can't choose your child's last name. The idea that they weren't married when Ruby was born is more likely here. And that shows just how much Taiyang cared for Yang's mother.
- In real life, you can choose a child's last name as well as their first name. There's nothing to suggest that it's different here.
- Haven't you ever seen Joe Dirt? His parents' last name wasn't Dirt. They named him that in insult. Not every country has the same practices when it comes to naming their children. It's probably not legal to give them any old surname, but you can certainly choose any surname that is in your family history. For conf, click here: http://canigivemybaby.com/a-different-last-name/
"Huntsmen and Huntresses"?
- Minor gripe, but it's really confusing. Why does everyone only use the terms "Huntsman" and "Huntress", and whenever being gender neutral say "Huntsman/men and/or huntress/es" when there's a blatantly obvious gender neutral word to use: Hunter?
- It probably has something to do with the series being heavily influence by fairy tales. The Huntsman was a major character in the original Snow White, and the term is likely adopted as a formal title in deference to that. As that is certainly not a gender-neutral title, It only makes sense for Huntress to be the title used when referring to a female character.
- It really isn't that unusual with titles like that for people to be very specific about using the exact title rather than trying to use general ones, even when referring to groups.
- It's possible that the term "hunter" will later be used to describe... a hunter. Basically, Huntsmen and Huntresses hunt Grimm. A hunter would hunt animals for food and pelts (you can't eat Grimm and their bodies fade away when they are killed).
Weiss's tragic "childhood"
- Weiss's speech towards the end of "The Stray" that reveals her status as a Tragic Bigot implies that the White Fang has been terrorizing her family since she was a child. And yet in the very next episode it's revealed that the White Fang has only been violent for the past five years. Which would mean the earliest this could have started happening was when she was twelve. But she says that this has been happening for as long as she can remember. Is this a plothole?
- I don't know about 'implying' violent actions; just that the White Fang was causing a lot of trouble for the Schnee company note , especially to the head of the company, Weiss's father - and as a result, he almost always came home in foul moods, and is implied to have been abusive due to this. So as a result, while the 'difficult childhood' came directly from her father, she blamed the White Fang for it's cause, and the violent turn just gave her more fuel to use.
- But she mentioned that in the same breath as family friends dying and board members being executed. The violence seemed to be the biggest part of what she was saying.
- Well if this is NOT some writing misstep, maybe this is a foreshadowing of some plot thread that had the White Fang implicated for violence even before Adam took over, in fact it may turn out to be involved with the reason their previous leader stepped down... In any case, Cinder is most likely behind it...
- She might just be conflating the White Fang with the Faunus Rights Revolutionaries or possibly other violent Faunus groups. It also wouldn't be that unrealistic for there to have been violent actions taken by some splinter faction White Fang members while the leadership was advocating peaceful solutions. At a minimum, there was probably more behind the shift in the White Fang than has been seen in the story, so far.
- There don't need to be violent Faunus actions to get Mr. Schnee angry. An inconvenient nonviolent protest would probably grind his gears and make him come home angry too. Weiss could associate the White Fang with this from them being the biggest troublemakers and the ones connected to the the other points of her argument, them killing her family members.
- Like others I never fond this particularly mysterious. The White Fang began its terrorist operations when Weiss would have been 11-12, the age when children start to become politically aware. Before then, assuming Papa Schnee was abusive, she would have been rationalizing his actions and already hearing about how lazy and useless Faunus were from her father. Personally, I doubt Weiss has worked out just why she really hates the White Fang. After all, it's not like a mining company with deep military connections note and a history of shady business practices is going to be short enemies. Even a completely ethical company would still have to fear kidnapping for ransom.
Pyrhaa hiding her semblance.
- Pyrhaa wants to make sure that no one can figure out that her semblance is magnetism, so she uses it in a way that no one can figure out she's using it(Debatable). But this has started to itch at this trooper: Why does Pyrhaa want to make sure that nobody knows her semblance. The use of semblance isn't prohibited, seeing as how Hunters would need them to do better in combat. So, what is it? Does Pyrhaa secretly think that she deserves all that praise?
- Pyrhaa might not actually be as tough as she seems without that kind of advantage because as useful as magnetism is, there are plenty of ways around it, such as building weapons from demagnetized steel. It's different from Ruby or Yang, whose powers are more versatile and still work regardless of enemy materials. If her secret were revealed, she'd likely get trounced more often simply because people would plan ahead.
- Except there are NUMEROUS ways around Ruby and Yang's Semblances, which were shown (Still think that having Ruby get captured was total BS by the way).
- As far as Ruby being captured, remember that she just fell down an extremely large distance - that alone drained her Aura to protect her. Then when the mooks came, she was fresh out as a result... thus she couldn't augment her punch's power beyond her own muscles, said mook likely used his Aura to block, and she couldn't lessen anything that hit in retaliation. It was fairly realistic that way, her being captured
- It's not like she hasn't blatantly used her semblance, like in the food fight. People not knowing just what you can do is a tactical advantage, and she probably wants to keep it that. So it's one thing to move aside an enemy's blow, it's another to do so in a manner that they don't realize you're doing it.
- Yes, but one needs to remember that the purpose of a Huntress is to fight Grimm. Pyrhaa's semblance would be useless against them in the manner that she uses it. By keeping her semblance a secret, she makes it so that she can never gain any experience against an opponent with non-magnetic attributes. Against the bigger, older, and wiser Grimm, she'd be destined to fail.
- She doesn't need to hide her semblance from Grimm. There, she can just bring along her own supply of metal and railgun them with that. As demonstrated in the Food Fight, she has no qualms against using her Semblance in huge, flashy ways. However, she probably has it such that she gives off the notion that she can only do big, flashy moves, and so her human opponents aren't paying attention to her doing the light, barely noticeable stuff.
- The whole point of becoming a hunter is fighting Grimm day to day. What's the point in using her semblance in a discrete manner for years of practice if she's gonna need to ditch that style as soon as she graduates?
- Because Grimm aren't the only threats out there. Or have you forgotten Torchwick and the White Fang? Remember, Glynda, a Huntress, moved in to deal with Torchwick in the first episode and ended up having to Wizard Duel Cinder. By the logic that's being applied, Glynda should have stayed the hell out because the threat wasn't some Animalistic Abomination.
- Good point, but the Grimm are still recognized as the bigger threat (Once again, debatable), so Pyrhaa is still ignoring the tigers in favor of fighting the ants (Metaphorically speaking, the White Fang are regarded as ants compared to the Grimm. That's why there hasn't been word of Hunters outside of Team RWBY and Penny fighting them.)
- Who said anything about the WF? Pyrhaa's claim to fame is as a tournament fighter, not law enforcement or grimm hunting (think along the lines of the differences between an Olympic target shooter, a police sharpshooter and a military sniper; all three do the same thing but work under different conditions). With that in mind, it makes sense she would train to use her powers on the only two classes of metal objects she can be sure are around in such duels; her own gear, and her opponents'. Given she's the efficient sort, she probably prefers to use this approach with Grimm as well (being able to throw a tonne of metal at Grimm's all well and good, but how can she rely on that when she can't be sure there's a tonne of metal to throw?) and thus sticks to using her weapons, enhanced with her semblance.
- A tournament fighter who goes to schools where you learn to become hunters that hunt Grimm. And the White Fang were mentioned literally two points above. This all loops back to the original question: Does Pyrhaa think she deserves the fame? What we've established is that she is using her powers in a discrete manner so that she can be widely known for her combat abilities against humans. Thing is, that's NOT how we should measure a Huntress or Huntsman, we should measure them by their combat ability against Grimm.
- Of course she fights differently in a tournament than against Grimm. In one case she is fighting a thinking, human sized opponent, in the other she is fighting a much larger than her, animalistic monster. There's probably half a dozen or more different ways anyone would change up their fighting style. While fighting an intelligent enemy, there's a distinct advantage to them not knowing your abilities. It keeps them from planning to counter you, keeps them guessing what your power is. And she does deserve all the praise she gets for winning tournaments since she, you know, won them. Unless there's some rule against using your Semblance subtly, which seems unlikely.
- I see your point, but as Grimm age they become smarter and more powerful. As Oobleck said, "Not all Grimm are mindless, or rather, not all Grimm are still mindless." So eventually, the Grimm could gain a thought process much like the Human opponents she fights, maybe even better. But yes, I can understand what you're saying, somewhat.
- Why does Pyrrha hold back her Semblance against human opponents? There are several reasons why that could be; if it were known, she'd likely be accused of being unfair (despite, as stated, Semblances being fair), and at worst would have people shun her (hardly any better than the isolation praise she currently 'enjoys'). Also, she could want to be fair - with her power, she could easily win every battle by making sure they can't hit her at all... but why do so? What does she gain, except more fame and/or accusations (and thus more isolation that she hates). In addition, if she focused on using her Semblance that way, her skills wouldn't develop... and against the Grimm, who aren't nearly as metallic, this would come back to bite her hard. So I guess she's chooses not to rely on it exclusively, to prevent such from occurring.
- The story is that Jaune forged his documents in order to attend Beacon. Even Glynda is hip enough to notice that there is an obvious gap between Jaune's skill level and the skill level of everyone at the school. Ozpin is not an idiot so why is it that Jaune is still at the school for so long? I would imagine it would because Ozpin already knew Jaune forged his documents and is helping Jaune advance and prove himself by being a leader/tapping his potential, but there are multiple times Jaune should have been killed, one of which being a sparring match. It begs the question as to why he isn't kicked out yet
- Given Remnant's a Death World anyway, perhaps the risk of being killed in a school environment (he wasn't really at risk of dying while sparing; it was explicitly ended because his aura was low enough to call it in Cardin's favour) is the same or better than what he'd get himself into trying to be a hero anyway?
- Judging by Ozpin's talk with Blake, the important thing when it comes to getting into Beacon is passing the entrance exam. Jaune survived initiation and has yet to die, he has more or less earned his place already.
- I imagine that kicking him out, while the 'proper' response, wouldn't be acceptable to Ozpin - after all, as stated, Remnant is a Death World. So to insure he gets the best training possible, Ozpin makes sure he remains at Beacon, knowing that there are other recruits who have the heart to help him survive/learn until he's fully ready.
- Ozpin is one of those mysterious leader types, The Chessmaster, who Has His Reasons for everything he does. Remember, at the same time he let Jaune in, he promoted Ruby two years ahead to get in as well. It's doubtful Ozpin was fooled for one moment by the forged papers. The only answer is that he must have seen some hidden potential in Jaune that even Jaune didn't see himself, and gambled that the other students could help unlock it. As Peter Port said, Ozpin doesn't make mistakes in choosing team leaders.
Lack of Alternate Languages.
- Okay, so Monty practically tried to hammer it into our heads how Weiss's name isn't pronounce the way it is in German because Remnant's only language is English. But if that's the case how come Weiss, Schnee, and Jaune are all words that are excepted into the color name tradition. Weiss is German for White, Jaune is French for yellow. How can these name's only connection to a color is another language's meaning if Remnant has only one?
- He never said anything about English being Remnant's only language. Only that the setting was "interpretive".
- That means that the setting serves to explain. Though they did fail to count to four, so that wouldn't surprise me. Let's try this instead: How can Weiss Schnee be German for White Snow if there is no German?
- Why does it need to be German In-Universe?
Kings or Queens?
- It's been mentioned plenty of times there are four kingdoms, but I have never heard anything about a monarch (king/queen). Is there one? We hear about corporations, schools, and the military, but nothing about a ruler. Maybe someone heard something...
- It could be a constitutional monarchy like most modern kingdoms. There's a king and/or queen, but they're not really relevant to most day to day running of the country. On the other hand, it could just be that they haven't shown up yet. The council Ozpin reports to appears to be in charge of Vale, but they could just be an advisory council to the monarch, who saw no need to bother themselves with personally chastising him.
- You've seen World of Remnant: Kingdoms, right?
- They only mentioned council(s) in the short. I know what a constitutional monarchy is, but the point I'm saying is that there is no monarch. Kingdoms/monarchies usually have a person as the king/queen, even if he/she does not hold any political power. Having a government called a kingdom and having no king/queen is like saying there's democracy but no voting is allowed. You can't just have a kingdom to have a kingdom (without a king). There's a reason they're called 'kingdoms'. Even if the king is just voted into his office, which has been done in the real world before (it's just not common). It just bothers me that there's never been any mention of a king or queen. It seems like the creators just call it a 'kingdom' because kingdoms seem 'cool' as opposed to democracies.
- A constitutional monarchy means that there's a hereditary monarchy, but it's heavily limited by the constitution, making it largely irrelevant most of the time. England is a constitutional monarchy, as are most other real world monarchies.
- I already said I know what a constitutional monarchy is. I don't think you know what I'm asking. I'm asking if Vale is a kingdom, why has there been no mention of a king or queen? Any mention at all. Ever. I'm not asking about the kind of government. I'm just saying it seems like an oversight on the creators' part: that a kingdom doesn't have a king. I'm not saying he/she has power or anything. I'm saying the mere absence of a king is strange because it is called a 'kingdom'. We all know England (and Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland) is a constitutional monarchy, And we see a monarch: the queen. Think of it this way: if you knew Great Britain and the United Kingdom was a monarchy, and you never saw the king or queen AND never heard any mention of him or her AT ALL, would you not find that weird in the slightest? Or if you knew America was a democracy and NO ONE voted, would you not find that weird?
- Given the nature of Remnant, it's possible that early settlements were monarchies (small groups of warriors lead by a chieftain who managed to keep an area relatively safe), and Kingdom stuck as a name for any sufficiently large settlement regardless of who was in charge via semantic drift.
- Most shows taking place in England don't mention the Queen or any of the other royals, even if the show directly involves the government. They're just not relevant in a constitutional monarchy. Admittedly those are real-life people so mentioning them causes some difficulties, but the point is that it's perfectly possible to have kings and queens without them being important enough to the ruling of a country to actually show up on screen.
One Military Force
- There is only one military in the entire world of Remnant. If the military ever decide to turn on the kingdoms and take over, it seems like they would have no worthy opposition since the military shown in the series look as if their technology is more advance than the police force's.
- The second episode of the second volume made it quite clear that every Kingdom has its own military. Ironwood just decided to bring his own along with him.