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** Speaking as an actor, a lot of the time, they simply aren't real modern-built bows. This is especially the case in versions that try to be at least somewhat historically accurate. There'll often be at least two bows built, one that looks more as though it could actually be capable of firing an arrow that's used for closeups and the like, and the other for wide-shots that will essentially amount to a slightly more sophisticated version of a child's toy. It still hurts if you're doing this for take after take but it's not nearly as painful as doing so with an actual working bow. An actor will be given archery lessons so that they know how to make it look right when they use the bow while filming but (for various reasons) very rarely will any of the actual bows they use in the film be capable of propelling an arrow more than a couple of feet at best, even when drawn and loosed at full strength as it were.
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* Robin Hood doesn't make much of a case for his robberies, preferring to say he and Little John "simply borrow a bit from those who can afford it". But no, really, as he has no intention of paying it back, he's not borrowing anything. He should have addressed John's concern that they're potentially "bad guys" by reminding him that the money they take originally belonged to the poor in the first place, and was only taken because nobility (and the prince) raised taxes to an impossible degree in King Richard's absence.
** He doesn't need to make a case; it's clear to everybody in England that taxes are too high and the money should be returned to the poor. We the audience can tell that too, just from watching the movie.
* Little John's objection to robbing the Royal coach is "there's a law against robbing royalty!" Well of course there is! There's a law against robbing ''anyone''! Sure, most of the law enforcement probably doesn't give a hoot if peasants are robbed, though they'd probably still detain the bandit if he were caught in the act. But Robin and Little John don't rob peasants. They rob nobility, and the law would certainly be concerned about that! But John draws the line at the prince? The line should have been something about how likely they are to be killed as the prince is heavily guarded, but no, he objects because it's ''against the law''...you know, like everything else he and Robin have been up to.
* This flew right over my head as a child, but has now become impossible to ignore -— what the heck is a monk like Friar Tuck doing taking care of a church?
** In some areas, that is what monks did. Likewise, he might not have been a monk, rather, he might have been a preacher more so.
** He is a friar-that's different from a monk. They traveled and preached, filling in for parish priests or assisting them when necessary.
* The song "The Phony King of England" refers to "Robin's wily pack", i.e. the Merry Men. And yet the only Merry Man the movie has seems to be Little John, with Alan-A-Dale and Friar Tuck as part-timers. I'm not sure you can call these three a "wily pack."
** Perhaps they're counting Skippy in the group as well?
** He could be informally including the group listening in. Most of them joined in the fight at the archery contest, after all.
* Did Prince John choke Sir Hiss by tying his throat in a knot? Hiss sounds like he's choking, but apparently has no trouble breathing while inside the basket.
** It might have been that the initial tightening choked him, but after that the knot loosened enough for him to breathe. Ever notice that tying a good knot with a really smooth material can be tricky because it'll slide open right away? Kind of like that.
* Robin's goal in going to the tournament was to get the prize of a kiss from Marian. Yet the disguise he wore was a stork, meaning the false bill covered his entire snout and mouth. How was he planning to kiss her?
** You said it yourself: a kiss ''from'' Maid Marian. Not the right to ''kiss'' Maid Marian ''yourself''. Especially given her high status, it wouldn't be the right to kiss her on the mouth — but the right to be kissed by her on the cheek.
* Where the heck were Marian and Klucky between the "Phony King" song and the final scene? They just vanish in the middle of it then appear at the very end of the film. Where were they?
** Well, if I remember right, Robin rescued Marian and they were seen dancing while the other ones were in prison. In terms of Klucky, Little John did pull her out of the way of the arrows, so she was rescued. In terms of why we don't see them in either of those scenes is because they were most likely in hiding.
** We last see them in Sherwood Forest. I always thought the implication was that they stayed there, in Robin's camp, while he and Little John conducted the jailbreak.
* Who pulls the carriages? Prince John rides in a carriage. The very last scene is Robin and Marian riding away in a carriage with a "Just Married" sign. Are horses just not anthropomorphic in this world?
** Larger creatures seem to pull the carriages. Prince John's carriage is pulled by some of his elephant soldiers. Little John pulls the cart during the escape from the castle. What's going on with the carriage at the end of the film is left ambiguous, though.
** When Robin is about to be executed and we get shots of the horrified crowd, an anthropomorphic donkey is present among them. It can be assumed that horses are as well. To add ''even more'' confusion, if one reads the comic book series, the characters ride non-anthropomorphic horses.
* A minor one, but Alan-A-Dale has realistic bird legs. Which is fine, but when he sits down and crosses his legs, the [[BodyHorror ankles bend in the opposite direction to become "knees."]] It's an easy thing to miss, but hard to ignore once you've seen it.
** It's a similar animation cheat as FeatherFingers and ToothyBird. Maybe, in-universe, he has extremely flexible legs?
* Lady Kluck mentions that Marian is King Richard's niece. But Marian is a fox, and Richard and John (and presumably the rest of their family) are lions. So... is Marian adopted? Is she his niece by marriage? How did that happen?
** She may be adopted, or she might just have some lion blood in her. There's no reason to assume different species of anthropomorphic animals can't interbreed in this universe (after all, some of the 1970's comics shows ''Robin Hood'' to actually take place in the Middle Ages of the Donald Duck universe, where different species can and do interbreed).
** She could be his niece by marriage. Note that there's never any mention of Marian being ''John's'' niece, only Richard's. I think it's the only way it makes any sort of sense.
* During the film's ending, as the newly married Robin and Marian part to their honeymoon, Skippy climbs to their carriage alongside Little John, as according to him, he will keep an eye on things when Robin has children, but is Mother Rabbit even aware that her eldest son is leaving her to accompany the town's hero? [[AdultFear She could get really worried]].
** Maybe Robin offered Mother Rabbit offscreen to take Skippy under his care to babysit his future children? Aside that, it's implied that while the Sheriff of Nottingham is now in custody, the Rabbit family is still poor. By allowing her son to go with Robin, Mother Rabbit probably has one less mouth to feed.
* Robin disguising as the blind beggar for the second time when he finds out Tuck will be hanged. Wouldn’t the Sheriff be as equally suspicious of this geriatric as Trigger? What with Prince John exposing Robin at the tournament, coupled with the Sheriff being perceptive enough to smell a rat when Prince John called off the execution, you'd think they'd be wise to Robin's masquerades.
** Maybe that's exactly what Robin is playing at? You wouldn't expect Robin to pull a new disguise after the old one failed, and maybe Prince John is reasoning the same way.
** Really, of the three villains, Sir Hiss is the only one who could be called at all competent in terms of not underestimating Robin. It's heavily implied that the only reason Prince John and the Sheriff get the drop on Robin at the tournament in terms of seeing through his disguise is because the tournament itself is a trap set for the precise purpose of catching him - Prince John only becomes suspicious after seeing Stork-Robin be the only one to get a direct bullseye, indicating that he'd already assumed that whichever competing archer ended up winning would be Robin Hood. And let's be honest, Robin wasn't exactly being what you'd call subtle despite his disguise... And as for the Sheriff smelling a rat when PJ called off the execution...well, ''anyone'' would be suspicious if someone who has apparently made it their mission to kill someone is suddenly calling them "buddy" and ordering their release immediately after having captured them and ordered their death. Robin's disguises work at every other point - the Sheriff clearly doesn't recognise him the first time he uses the blind beggar outfit - so the tournament was likely more a case of them actively expecting Robin (and Little John) to show up and try something.
!!TV series
* Robin Hood doesn't make much of a case for his robberies, preferring to say he and Little John "simply borrow a bit from those who can afford it". But no, really, as he has no intention of paying it back, he's not borrowing anything. He should have addressed John's concern that they're potentially "bad guys" by reminding him that the money they take originally belonged to the poor in the first place, and was only taken because nobility (and the prince) raised taxes to an impossible degree in King Richard's absence.
** He doesn't need to make a case; it's clear to everybody in England that taxes are too high and the money should be returned to the poor. We the audience can tell that too, just from watching the movie.
* Little John's objection to robbing the Royal coach is "there's a law against robbing royalty!" Well of course there is! There's a law against robbing ''anyone''! Sure, most of the law enforcement probably doesn't give a hoot if peasants are robbed, though they'd probably still detain the bandit if he were caught in the act. But Robin and Little John don't rob peasants. They rob nobility, and the law would certainly be concerned about that! But John draws the line at the prince? The line should have been something about how likely they are to be killed as the prince is heavily guarded, but no, he objects because it's ''against the law''...you know, like everything else he and Robin have been up to.
* This flew right over my head as a child, but has now become impossible to ignore -— what the heck is a monk like Friar Tuck doing taking care of a church?
** In some areas, that is what monks did. Likewise, he might not have been a monk, rather, he might have been a preacher more so.
** He is a friar-that's different from a monk. They traveled and preached, filling in for parish priests or assisting them when necessary.
* The song "The Phony King of England" refers to "Robin's wily pack", i.e. the Merry Men. And yet the only Merry Man the movie has seems to be Little John, with Alan-A-Dale and Friar Tuck as part-timers. I'm not sure you can call these three a "wily pack."
** Perhaps they're counting Skippy in the group as well?
** He could be informally including the group listening in. Most of them joined in the fight at the archery contest, after all.
* Did Prince John choke Sir Hiss by tying his throat in a knot? Hiss sounds like he's choking, but apparently has no trouble breathing while inside the basket.
** It might have been that the initial tightening choked him, but after that the knot loosened enough for him to breathe. Ever notice that tying a good knot with a really smooth material can be tricky because it'll slide open right away? Kind of like that.
* Robin's goal in going to the tournament was to get the prize of a kiss from Marian. Yet the disguise he wore was a stork, meaning the false bill covered his entire snout and mouth. How was he planning to kiss her?
** You said it yourself: a kiss ''from'' Maid Marian. Not the right to ''kiss'' Maid Marian ''yourself''. Especially given her high status, it wouldn't be the right to kiss her on the mouth — but the right to be kissed by her on the cheek.
* Where the heck were Marian and Klucky between the "Phony King" song and the final scene? They just vanish in the middle of it then appear at the very end of the film. Where were they?
** Well, if I remember right, Robin rescued Marian and they were seen dancing while the other ones were in prison. In terms of Klucky, Little John did pull her out of the way of the arrows, so she was rescued. In terms of why we don't see them in either of those scenes is because they were most likely in hiding.
** We last see them in Sherwood Forest. I always thought the implication was that they stayed there, in Robin's camp, while he and Little John conducted the jailbreak.
* Who pulls the carriages? Prince John rides in a carriage. The very last scene is Robin and Marian riding away in a carriage with a "Just Married" sign. Are horses just not anthropomorphic in this world?
** Larger creatures seem to pull the carriages. Prince John's carriage is pulled by some of his elephant soldiers. Little John pulls the cart during the escape from the castle. What's going on with the carriage at the end of the film is left ambiguous, though.
** When Robin is about to be executed and we get shots of the horrified crowd, an anthropomorphic donkey is present among them. It can be assumed that horses are as well. To add ''even more'' confusion, if one reads the comic book series, the characters ride non-anthropomorphic horses.
* A minor one, but Alan-A-Dale has realistic bird legs. Which is fine, but when he sits down and crosses his legs, the [[BodyHorror ankles bend in the opposite direction to become "knees."]] It's an easy thing to miss, but hard to ignore once you've seen it.
** It's a similar animation cheat as FeatherFingers and ToothyBird. Maybe, in-universe, he has extremely flexible legs?
* Lady Kluck mentions that Marian is King Richard's niece. But Marian is a fox, and Richard and John (and presumably the rest of their family) are lions. So... is Marian adopted? Is she his niece by marriage? How did that happen?
** She may be adopted, or she might just have some lion blood in her. There's no reason to assume different species of anthropomorphic animals can't interbreed in this universe (after all, some of the 1970's comics shows ''Robin Hood'' to actually take place in the Middle Ages of the Donald Duck universe, where different species can and do interbreed).
** She could be his niece by marriage. Note that there's never any mention of Marian being ''John's'' niece, only Richard's. I think it's the only way it makes any sort of sense.
* During the film's ending, as the newly married Robin and Marian part to their honeymoon, Skippy climbs to their carriage alongside Little John, as according to him, he will keep an eye on things when Robin has children, but is Mother Rabbit even aware that her eldest son is leaving her to accompany the town's hero? [[AdultFear She could get really worried]].
** Maybe Robin offered Mother Rabbit offscreen to take Skippy under his care to babysit his future children? Aside that, it's implied that while the Sheriff of Nottingham is now in custody, the Rabbit family is still poor. By allowing her son to go with Robin, Mother Rabbit probably has one less mouth to feed.
* Robin disguising as the blind beggar for the second time when he finds out Tuck will be hanged. Wouldn’t the Sheriff be as equally suspicious of this geriatric as Trigger? What with Prince John exposing Robin at the tournament, coupled with the Sheriff being perceptive enough to smell a rat when Prince John called off the execution, you'd think they'd be wise to Robin's masquerades.
** Maybe that's exactly what Robin is playing at? You wouldn't expect Robin to pull a new disguise after the old one failed, and maybe Prince John is reasoning the same way.
** Really, of the three villains, Sir Hiss is the only one who could be called at all competent in terms of not underestimating Robin. It's heavily implied that the only reason Prince John and the Sheriff get the drop on Robin at the tournament in terms of seeing through his disguise is because the tournament itself is a trap set for the precise purpose of catching him - Prince John only becomes suspicious after seeing Stork-Robin be the only one to get a direct bullseye, indicating that he'd already assumed that whichever competing archer ended up winning would be Robin Hood. And let's be honest, Robin wasn't exactly being what you'd call subtle despite his disguise... And as for the Sheriff smelling a rat when PJ called off the execution...well, ''anyone'' would be suspicious if someone who has apparently made it their mission to kill someone is suddenly calling them "buddy" and ordering their release immediately after having captured them and ordered their death. Robin's disguises work at every other point - the Sheriff clearly doesn't recognise him the first time he uses the blind beggar outfit - so the tournament was likely more a case of them actively expecting Robin (and Little John) to show up and try something.
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** He doesn't need to make a case; it's clear to everybody in England that taxes are too high and the money should be returned to the poor. We the audience can tell that too, just from watching the movie.
* Little John's objection to robbing the Royal coach is "there's a law against robbing royalty!" Well of course there is! There's a law against robbing ''anyone''! Sure, most of the law enforcement probably doesn't give a hoot if peasants are robbed, though they'd probably still detain the bandit if he were caught in the act. But Robin and Little John don't rob peasants. They rob nobility, and the law would certainly be concerned about that! But John draws the line at the prince? The line should have been something about how likely they are to be killed as the prince is heavily guarded, but no, he objects because it's ''against the law''...you know, like everything else he and Robin have been up to.
* This flew right over my head as a child, but has now become impossible to ignore -— what the heck is a monk like Friar Tuck doing taking care of a church?
** In some areas, that is what monks did. Likewise, he might not have been a monk, rather, he might have been a preacher more so.
** He is a friar-that's different from a monk. They traveled and preached, filling in for parish priests or assisting them when necessary.
* The song "The Phony King of England" refers to "Robin's wily pack", i.e. the Merry Men. And yet the only Merry Man the movie has seems to be Little John, with Alan-A-Dale and Friar Tuck as part-timers. I'm not sure you can call these three a "wily pack."
** Perhaps they're counting Skippy in the group as well?
** He could be informally including the group listening in. Most of them joined in the fight at the archery contest, after all.
* Did Prince John choke Sir Hiss by tying his throat in a knot? Hiss sounds like he's choking, but apparently has no trouble breathing while inside the basket.
** It might have been that the initial tightening choked him, but after that the knot loosened enough for him to breathe. Ever notice that tying a good knot with a really smooth material can be tricky because it'll slide open right away? Kind of like that.
* Robin's goal in going to the tournament was to get the prize of a kiss from Marian. Yet the disguise he wore was a stork, meaning the false bill covered his entire snout and mouth. How was he planning to kiss her?
** You said it yourself: a kiss ''from'' Maid Marian. Not the right to ''kiss'' Maid Marian ''yourself''. Especially given her high status, it wouldn't be the right to kiss her on the mouth — but the right to be kissed by her on the cheek.
* Where the heck were Marian and Klucky between the "Phony King" song and the final scene? They just vanish in the middle of it then appear at the very end of the film. Where were they?
** Well, if I remember right, Robin rescued Marian and they were seen dancing while the other ones were in prison. In terms of Klucky, Little John did pull her out of the way of the arrows, so she was rescued. In terms of why we don't see them in either of those scenes is because they were most likely in hiding.
** We last see them in Sherwood Forest. I always thought the implication was that they stayed there, in Robin's camp, while he and Little John conducted the jailbreak.
* Who pulls the carriages? Prince John rides in a carriage. The very last scene is Robin and Marian riding away in a carriage with a "Just Married" sign. Are horses just not anthropomorphic in this world?
** Larger creatures seem to pull the carriages. Prince John's carriage is pulled by some of his elephant soldiers. Little John pulls the cart during the escape from the castle. What's going on with the carriage at the end of the film is left ambiguous, though.
** When Robin is about to be executed and we get shots of the horrified crowd, an anthropomorphic donkey is present among them. It can be assumed that horses are as well. To add ''even more'' confusion, if one reads the comic book series, the characters ride non-anthropomorphic horses.
* A minor one, but Alan-A-Dale has realistic bird legs. Which is fine, but when he sits down and crosses his legs, the [[BodyHorror ankles bend in the opposite direction to become "knees."]] It's an easy thing to miss, but hard to ignore once you've seen it.
** It's a similar animation cheat as FeatherFingers and ToothyBird. Maybe, in-universe, he has extremely flexible legs?
* Lady Kluck mentions that Marian is King Richard's niece. But Marian is a fox, and Richard and John (and presumably the rest of their family) are lions. So... is Marian adopted? Is she his niece by marriage? How did that happen?
** She may be adopted, or she might just have some lion blood in her. There's no reason to assume different species of anthropomorphic animals can't interbreed in this universe (after all, some of the 1970's comics shows ''Robin Hood'' to actually take place in the Middle Ages of the Donald Duck universe, where different species can and do interbreed).
** She could be his niece by marriage. Note that there's never any mention of Marian being ''John's'' niece, only Richard's. I think it's the only way it makes any sort of sense.
* During the film's ending, as the newly married Robin and Marian part to their honeymoon, Skippy climbs to their carriage alongside Little John, as according to him, he will keep an eye on things when Robin has children, but is Mother Rabbit even aware that her eldest son is leaving her to accompany the town's hero? [[AdultFear She could get really worried]].
** Maybe Robin offered Mother Rabbit offscreen to take Skippy under his care to babysit his future children? Aside that, it's implied that while the Sheriff of Nottingham is now in custody, the Rabbit family is still poor. By allowing her son to go with Robin, Mother Rabbit probably has one less mouth to feed.
* Robin disguising as the blind beggar for the second time when he finds out Tuck will be hanged. Wouldn’t the Sheriff be as equally suspicious of this geriatric as Trigger? What with Prince John exposing Robin at the tournament, coupled with the Sheriff being perceptive enough to smell a rat when Prince John called off the execution, you'd think they'd be wise to Robin's masquerades.
** Maybe that's exactly what Robin is playing at? You wouldn't expect Robin to pull a new disguise after the old one failed, and maybe Prince John is reasoning the same way.
** Really, of the three villains, Sir Hiss is the only one who could be called at all competent in terms of not underestimating Robin. It's heavily implied that the only reason Prince John and the Sheriff get the drop on Robin at the tournament in terms of seeing through his disguise is because the tournament itself is a trap set for the precise purpose of catching him - Prince John only becomes suspicious after seeing Stork-Robin be the only one to get a direct bullseye, indicating that he'd already assumed that whichever competing archer ended up winning would be Robin Hood. And let's be honest, Robin wasn't exactly being what you'd call subtle despite his disguise... And as for the Sheriff smelling a rat when PJ called off the execution...well, ''anyone'' would be suspicious if someone who has apparently made it their mission to kill someone is suddenly calling them "buddy" and ordering their release immediately after having captured them and ordered their death. Robin's disguises work at every other point - the Sheriff clearly doesn't recognise him the first time he uses the blind beggar outfit - so the tournament was likely more a case of them actively expecting Robin (and Little John) to show up and try something.
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** Maybe they died in an offscreen battle. At least one of them had a loved one still in Nottingham - maybe all the business with John seeing his wife and son convinced them to reunite with what families they had. The most likely out-of-universe reason is that they were CanonForeigners - after they're gone, the only CanonForeigner left in the gang is Roy and he leaves two episodes later. It's the same as the fact you never see specific villagers again after their DayInTheLimelight. Occasionally it's written that they have to leave but a lot just end up disappearing. The writers seemed to want to focus on the core Robin (& gang) vs Sheriff (& Guy) storyline that Robin Hood is most famous for. Doing that meant losing a lot of the dead weight. Besides, they were never exactly hugely important enough to be missed...
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** Maybe they died in an offscreen battle. At least one of them had a loved one still in Nottingham - maybe all the business with John seeing his wife and son convinced them to reunite with what families they had. The most likely out-of-universe reason is that they were CanonForeigners - after they're gone, the only CanonForeigner left in the gang is Roy and he leaves two episodes later. It's the same as the fact you never see specific villagers again after their DayInTheLimelight. Occasionally it's written that they have to leave but a lot just end up disappearing. The writers seemed to want to focus on the core Robin (& gang) vs Sheriff (& Guy) storyline that Robin Hood is most famous for. Doing that meant losing a lot of the dead weight. Besides, they were never exactly hugely important enough to be missed...missed...
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* An irritating one, especially if you are an archer, but why is nobody ever shown to be wearing either a shooting glove or a tab when pulling back on their bows in any live action portrayal of Robin Hood? Those bow strings hurt if you are repeatedly pulling back on them with no finger protection, no matter how experienced an archer you are, so are all these actors immune to pain or something?
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** Really, of the three villains, Sir Hiss is the only one who could be called at all competent in terms of not underestimating Robin. It's heavily implied that the only reason Prince John and the Sheriff get the drop on Robin at the tournament in terms of seeing through his disguise is because the tournament itself is a trap set for the precise purpose of catching him - Prince John only becomes suspicious after seeing Stork-Robin be the only one to get a direct bullseye, indicating that he'd already assumed that whichever competing archer ended up winning would be Robin Hood. And let's be honest, Robin wasn't exactly being what you'd call subtle despite his disguise... And as for the Sheriff smelling a rat when PJ called off the execution...well, ''anyone'' would be suspicious if someone who has apparently made it their mission to kill someone is suddenly calling them "buddy" and ordering their release immediately after having captured them and ordered their death. Robin's disguises work at every other point - the Sheriff clearly doesn't recognise him the first time he uses the blind beggar outfit - so the tournament was likely more a case of them actively expecting Robin (and Little John) to show up and try something.
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** He doesn't need to make a case; it's clear to everybody in England that taxes are too high and the money should be returned to the poor. We the audience can tell that too, just from watching the movie.
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* This flew right over my head as a child, but has now become impossible to ignore — -— what the heck is a monk like Friar Tuck doing taking care of a church?
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** Maybe that's exactly what Robin is playing at? You wouldn't expect Robin to pull a new disguise after the old one failed, and maybe Prince John is reasoning the same way.
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* Robin disguising as the blind beggar for the second time when he finds out Tuck will be hanged. Wouldn’t the Sheriff be as equally suspicious of this geriatric as Trigger? What with Prince John exposing Robin at the tournament, coupled with the Sheriff being perceptive enough to smell a rat when Prince John called off the execution, you'd think they'd be wise to Robin's masquerades.
