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**** People involved with organized crime have been killed for this very reason, and for much, much less.
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**** People involved with organized crime have been killed for this very reason, and for much, much less. less.
**** Such as? Examples, please.
**** Such as? Examples, please.
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*** And? What difference does that make at all? They're not complete psychopaths who blindly murder anyone who could potentially finger them. If they were, they would have killed each other, Marvin (intentionally), and Marcellus Wallace.
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**** People involved with organized crime have been killed for this very reason, and for much, much less.
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*** They're Hollywood gangsters, as opposed to real ones.
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** Following the logic that Jules or Vincent should have killed Jimmy, shouldn't they have just shot Marvin instead of bringing him back to Marcellus? Of course, they didn't, because they're not freaking sociopaths who unnecessarily murder people who are part of their organization. Or hey, following that logic, maybe Jules or Vincent should have killed ''their partner!'' Because after all, ''they're'' witnesses to ''four'' murders! Or hey, maybe they should just ''kill Marcellus Wallace'' because he ordered the hit and could potentially give them away to the police for both those murders and plenty of others!\\
Do you see the idiotic train of thought you seem to be following here? If Jules or Vincent acted like complete psychos who killed anyone who might potentially rat them out, they'd have killed half the cast, including each other. But they didn't, precisely because ''they aren't complete psychopaths who kill anyone who can be a potential witness.''
Do you see the idiotic train of thought you seem to be following here? If Jules or Vincent acted like complete psychos who killed anyone who might potentially rat them out, they'd have killed half the cast, including each other. But they didn't, precisely because ''they aren't complete psychopaths who kill anyone who can be a potential witness.''
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*** That's not an answer. Your response to the argument that they shouldn't be compounding the problems they're in by killing ''more'' people is basically "well, organized criminals kill witnesses!" No shit. But they don't fucking kill ''members of their own organization''. Seriously, you're suggesting that Jules should put a bullet into ''his friend'' who is part of his organization, whom he ''trusts'' simply because he ''might'' squeal, despite not having any ''reason'' to do so? And ''you're'' the one who is saying the movie isn't being logical? How is "I should kill my friend, partner, and fellow criminal who has no reason to talk about what happened on the extreme off-chance that he might talk to the police" in any goddamn way ''logical''?
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** There's an armed man, most likely associated with organized crime, lying dead inside Butch's house. It stands to reason that anyone investigating would conclude that gunning down said armed man was likely in self-defense. Nonetheless, the police would probably like to talk to Butch, but seeing how Butch is going to be out of the country by the time anyone checks out the smell coming from his apartment, its not going to help.
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** He's going to lie his ass off, I imagine. Dunno exactly what he's going to say, though.
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** He's going to lie his ass off, I imagine. Dunno exactly what he's going to say, though.though.
** Its possible - in fact, even probable - that Bonnie is aware that Jimmy is connected to criminals. In that case, if she shows up at home and finds the sheets are missing and they've got a large amount of money suddenly showing up in their bank account, she'll likely brush it off; maybe be a little upset, but willing to get over it. Its one thing to know your husband is involved in some shady dealings that invariably result in a high income. Its another thing to walk in on him disposing a body. Regardless, Bonnie's going to be a lot less upset at losing sheets and making a hefty, unexpected chunk of change.
** Its possible - in fact, even probable - that Bonnie is aware that Jimmy is connected to criminals. In that case, if she shows up at home and finds the sheets are missing and they've got a large amount of money suddenly showing up in their bank account, she'll likely brush it off; maybe be a little upset, but willing to get over it. Its one thing to know your husband is involved in some shady dealings that invariably result in a high income. Its another thing to walk in on him disposing a body. Regardless, Bonnie's going to be a lot less upset at losing sheets and making a hefty, unexpected chunk of change.
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** I hesitate to add to this whole mess, but what would Jules and Vincent have possibly gotten out of killing Jimmy except ''another'' body to dispose of? The momentary satisfaction of killing someone annoying them? Yeah, that's really going to help them when they're covered in blood trying to get rid of two bodies. And afterwards, Jimmy's been well compensated for his convenience (enough money to buy an expensive oak bedroom set -- not bad) and knows the score, and doesn't want his wife to find out anything, so there's no point in killing him.
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** I hesitate to add to this whole mess, but what would Jules and Vincent have possibly gotten out of killing Jimmy except ''another'' body to dispose of? The momentary satisfaction of killing someone annoying them? Yeah, that's really going to help them when they're covered in blood trying to get rid of two bodies. And afterwards, Jimmy's been well compensated for his convenience inconvenience (enough money to buy an expensive oak bedroom set -- not bad) and knows the score, and doesn't want his wife to find out anything, so there's no point in killing him.
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** I hesitate to add to this whole mess, but what would Jules and Vincent have possibly gotten out of killing Jimmy except ''another'' body to dispose of? The momentary satisfaction of killing someone annoying them? Yeah, that's really going to help them when they're covered in blood trying to get rid of two bodies. And afterwards, Jimmy's been well compensated for his convenience (enough money to buy an expensive oak bedroom set -- not bad) and knows the score, and doesn't want his wife to find out anything, so there's no point in killing him.
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* It's a minor thing, but... how is Jimmy going to explain the disappeared sheets (which are clearly of sentimental value) to Bonnie? And related to that, the fact that they now have enough to buy money to buy some really expensive oak furniture?
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* It's a minor thing, but... how is Jimmy going to explain the disappeared sheets (which are clearly of sentimental value) to Bonnie? And related to that, the fact that they now have enough to buy money to buy some really expensive oak furniture?furniture?
** He's going to lie his ass off, I imagine. Dunno exactly what he's going to say, though.
** He's going to lie his ass off, I imagine. Dunno exactly what he's going to say, though.
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** The entire scene makes zero sense. Heroin overdose causes ''respiratory'' failure, not heart failure (at least not directly). Not to mention the whole "through the sternum" thing (as opposed to between ribs).
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** The entire scene makes zero sense. Heroin overdose causes ''respiratory'' failure, not heart failure (at least not directly). Not to mention the whole "through the sternum" thing (as opposed to between ribs).ribs).
* It's a minor thing, but... how is Jimmy going to explain the disappeared sheets (which are clearly of sentimental value) to Bonnie? And related to that, the fact that they now have enough to buy money to buy some really expensive oak furniture?
* It's a minor thing, but... how is Jimmy going to explain the disappeared sheets (which are clearly of sentimental value) to Bonnie? And related to that, the fact that they now have enough to buy money to buy some really expensive oak furniture?
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** Not to mention that for all we know, Vincent and Jules wiped the cabinets and threw away the burger wrapper after leaving.
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* Mia OD'ed on heroin and was injected in the heart w/ a needle whose tip had not been sterilized beforehand. Wouldn't she have required hospitalization afterward?
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** [[RealityIsUnrealistic Fingerprints aren't recovered from most crime scenes.]]
* Mia OD'ed on heroin and was injected in the heart w/ a needle whose tip had not been sterilized beforehand. Wouldn't she have required hospitalizationafterward?afterward?
** The entire scene makes zero sense. Heroin overdose causes ''respiratory'' failure, not heart failure (at least not directly). Not to mention the whole "through the sternum" thing (as opposed to between ribs).
* Mia OD'ed on heroin and was injected in the heart w/ a needle whose tip had not been sterilized beforehand. Wouldn't she have required hospitalization
** The entire scene makes zero sense. Heroin overdose causes ''respiratory'' failure, not heart failure (at least not directly). Not to mention the whole "through the sternum" thing (as opposed to between ribs).
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*** Because its personal and he wants to be in on it. Butch pissed Marcellus off, and he's pissed off enough that he's willing to go after the man personally if he's still in his territory.
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*** Jimmy's wife ''doesn't know'', which is sorta the whole point of the sequence. Jimmy isn't going to squeal because he isn't going to benefit from it. You know what happens if he has an "attack of conscience"? (It's conscience, not conscious; an "attack of conscious" would mean he's waking up from being unconscious...so we can add word-usage/spelling failure to your grammatical and formatting failure). As I've pointed out before, he's Jules's ''friend and partner'', i.e., they trust each other.\\\
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*** Jimmy's wife ''doesn't know'', which is sorta the whole point of the sequence. Jimmy isn't going to squeal because he isn't going to benefit from it. You know what happens if he has an "attack of conscience"? (It's conscience, not conscious; an "attack of conscious" would mean he's waking up from being unconscious...so we can add word-usage/spelling failure to your grammatical and formatting failure).failure) He gets a bullet in the face from someone ''else'' that Marcellus has in his employ. ''And'' he gets divorced. He doesn't want to get divorced. As I've pointed out before, he's Jules's ''friend and partner'', i.e., they trust each other.\\\
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Marcellus and his crew are organized crime. Organized crime, generally speaking, does ''not'' just randomly kill everyone that sees them, and they ''especially'' don't kill people who are friends and are ''doing them a huge favor by letting them hide out in their home''. You don't get people to help you in the future if you develop a reputation for killing people who help you. Organized crime is about reputation and respect, and you lose ''both'' really fast if you act the way you're suggesting.\\\
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Marcellus and his crew are organized crime. Organized crime, generally speaking, does ''not'' just randomly kill everyone that sees them, and they ''especially'' don't kill people who are friends and are ''doing them a huge favor by letting them hide out in their home''. You don't get people to help you in the future if you develop a reputation for killing people who help you. Organized crime is about reputation and respect, and you lose ''both'' really fast if you act the way you're suggesting.\\\
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You kill people who have ''wronged'' you, but you reward the people who ''help'' you. You think ''any'' crime boss is going to stay in power for very long if word gets around that they kill anyone who ''helps'' them? That's the sort of reputation that leads to a bullet in the face pretty damn fast.\\\
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*** Dude, can you maybe not try breaking the formatting when you respond? You namecalled first, smartarse.\\\
...Did you not watch the movie or something? Killing Marvin was an ''accident''. "Organized crime" doesn't mean that everything they do is superbly planned. It just means that there's a criminal organization. Now you're just twisting terms around to their literal, instead of intended, meaning.
***You kill people who have ''wronged'' you, but you reward the people who ''help'' you. You think ''any'' crime boss is going to stay in power for very long if word gets around that they kill anyone who ''helps'' them? That's the sort of reputation that leads to a bullet in the face pretty damn fast.\\\
...Did you not watch the movie or something? Killing Marvin was an ''accident''. "Organized crime" doesn't mean that everything they do is superbly planned. It just means that there's a criminal organization. Now you're just twisting terms around to their literal, instead of intended, meaning.
***You kill people who have ''wronged'' you, but you reward the people who ''help'' you. You think ''any'' crime boss is going to stay in power for very long if word gets around that they kill anyone who ''helps'' them? That's the sort of reputation that leads to a bullet in the face pretty damn fast.
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Jimmy's hardly a loose end. He was Jules's partner, remember, not some random joker they ran into. He knows the score, and he's not going to rat out his former partner. As for whether or not Marcellus can "afford" it? He's clearly got a well-funded and organized organization, I'm sure he can "afford" a lot.\\\
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*** Jimmy's wife ''doesn't know'', which is sorta the whole point of the sequence. Jimmy isn't going to squeal because he isn't going to benefit from it. You know what happens if he has an "attack of conscience"? (It's conscience, not conscious; an "attack of conscious" would mean he's waking up from being unconscious...so we can add word-usage/spelling failure to your grammatical and formatting failure). As I've pointed out before, he's Jules's ''friend and partner'', i.e., they trust each other.\\\
So your solution to one negligent discharge is to start shooting ''more'' people. After all the work they went to to cover up one death (of someone who "won't be missed"), you want them to shoot someone who has a wife and family, who ''will'' notice they're missing. ''Brilliant''.
***Jimmy's hardly a loose end. He was Jules's partner, remember, not some random joker they ran into. He knows the score, and he's not going to rat out his former partner. As for whether or not Marcellus can "afford" it? He's clearly got a well-funded and organized organization, I'm sure he can "afford" a lot.\\\
So your solution to one negligent discharge is to start shooting ''more'' people. After all the work they went to to cover up one death (of someone who "won't be missed"), you want them to shoot someone who has a wife and family, who ''will'' notice they're missing. ''Brilliant''.
***Jimmy's hardly a loose end. He was Jules's partner, remember, not some random joker they ran into. He knows the score, and he's not going to rat out his former partner. As for whether or not Marcellus can "afford" it? He's clearly got a well-funded and organized organization, I'm sure he can "afford" a lot.
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* Why take the chance on that based on his response (a serious overreaction) to Marvin's being brought to his house?
You're basically suggesting they "avoid" the death penalty by killing even ''more'' people, and thus creating even ''more'' evidence that they'll have to get rid of somehow. Where, precisely, does it end? Believe it or not, murder doesn't necessarily solve a problem that started with murder.\\\
You're basically suggesting they "avoid" the death penalty by killing even ''more'' people, and thus creating even ''more'' evidence that they'll have to get rid of somehow. Where, precisely, does it end? Believe it or not, murder doesn't necessarily solve a problem that started with murder.\\\
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**You're basically suggesting they "avoid" the death penalty by killing even ''more'' people, and thus creating even ''more'' evidence that they'll have to get rid of somehow. Where, precisely, does it end? Believe it or not, murder doesn't necessarily solve a problem that started with murder.\\\
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* Thanks for the grammar lesson, junior. And whether you create a further problem depends largely on how you dispose of the witnesses, doesn't it? So tell me, crime expert, if organized criminals don't kill witnesses, why does the government bother w/ a Witness Protection Program or even pre-trial security. After all, using your stellar logic, they are in no danger, right?
I didn't write the film,I just see where the logic process was avoided to maybe..."enhance the narrative?"
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** Witness Protection Programs and pre-trial security are for people who have ''already agreed to testify''. As in, people who have already proven that they're willing to sell out the organization; not people who are currently helping the organization out and want things to be kept quiet. That doesn't apply at all here because neither Jimmy or the person selling illegal drugs are planning to testify, because testifying means that Jimmy gets divorced and that Mr. Drug Dealer is gonna lose business. They're not ''witnesses'', they're ''accomplices'' at this point. Maybe you shouldn't talk about someone else's logic when yours fails so utterly.\\\
[[IndianaJones And don't call me Junior.]] Seriously, though, it's condescending, and not something you should be doing if you're going to fail at basic grammar and rhetoric.\\\
Oh, and you missed another space after a comma. Fixed it for ya. Oh, and the [=\\=] tags after a line break.\\\
"I didn't write the film," all I'll say is thank the gods for that.
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Thanks for the grammar lesson, junior. And whether you create a further problem depends largely on how you dispose of the witnesses, doesn't it? So tell me, crime expert, if organized criminals don't kill witnesses, why does the government bother w/ a Witness Protection Program or even pre-trial security. After all, using your stellar logic, they are in no danger, right?
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* Thanks for the grammar lesson, junior. And whether you create a further problem depends largely on how you dispose of the witnesses, doesn't it? So tell me, crime expert, if organized criminals don't kill witnesses, why does the government bother w/ a Witness Protection Program or even pre-trial security. After all, using your stellar logic, they are in no danger, right?
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* Why didn't Vincent and Jules wear gloves when they were in the apartment? Vincent opened several cabinets and was fiddling w/ items on the counter in the kitchen and Jules' fingerprints were on the wrapper of the burger?burger.
* Mia OD'ed on heroin and was injected in the heart w/ a needle whose tip had not been sterilized beforehand. Wouldn't she have required hospitalization afterward?
* Mia OD'ed on heroin and was injected in the heart w/ a needle whose tip had not been sterilized beforehand. Wouldn't she have required hospitalization afterward?
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** Really? I don't? So...Jimmy being Jules partner but being "surprised for more than a few minutes about his criminal partner bringing a dead body by his home is rational? Or loudly complaining about his wife coming home to a murderer he doesn't even KNOW (Vincent Vega) was realistic? Really? What world do you live in, sport?\\
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** Really? I don't? So...Jimmy being Jules Jules' partner but being "surprised for more than a few minutes about his criminal partner bringing a dead body by his home is rational? (he knows Jules is a killer,so there should be few surprises in being friends w/ a known killer) Or loudly complaining about his wife coming home to a murderer he doesn't even KNOW (Vincent Vega) was realistic? Really? What world do you live in, sport?\\
** Are you unable to respond to questions w/o name-calling? Did you learn that from Toastmasters? They are apparently NOT "organized criminals" as unnecessarily killing Marvin w/ a weapon used in a triple homicide was frankly idiotic and the subsequent events w/ Butch make their lack of "organization" even more apparent.
* Sigh...you kill people for myriad reasons when you are a criminal most of which make little sense outside the criminal enterprises in which you are employed. By not killing Jimmy,all of the people involved would have to depend on Jimmy, and by extension his wife, never getting caught for another crime and using what they know for leverage to lighten their potential sentences. Or having an attack of conscious and reporting Marvin's death. It happens all of the time w/ non-organized criminals. Most organized criminals use more caution when handling firearms and murders or they aren't w/ the organized crime group for long. Guess how they are removed from the groups?
Why take the chance on that based on his response to Marvin's being brought to his house?
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Thanks for the grammar lesson, junior. And whether you create a further problem depends largely on how you dispose of the witnesses, doesn't it? So tell me, crime expert, if organized criminals don't kill witnesses, why does the government bother w/ a Witness Protection Program or even pre-trial security. After all, using your stellar logic, they are in no danger, right?
I didn't write the film,I just see where the logic process was avoided to maybe..."enhance the narrative?"
I didn't write the film,I just see where the logic process was avoided to maybe..."enhance the narrative?"
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*** He says he's going to call in some people for it. Considering his orders to find Butch, that he wants people looking everywhere, he's probably got a lot of people on the payroll. He and Vincent were staking out Butch's place, it's been speculated, because they probably thought it was the ''least'' likely place for Butch to be since it's the obvious spot to look for him. You've ''got'' to cover the place on the extremely unlikely chance he goes back there, but since it's so unlikely, Marcellus and Vincent probably saw it as a day off to sit around and eat donuts while everyone else looked for Butch.
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*** He says he's going to call in some people for it. Considering his orders to find Butch, that he wants people looking everywhere, he's probably got a lot of people on the payroll. He and Vincent were staking out Butch's place, it's been speculated, because they probably thought it was the ''least'' likely place for Butch to be since it's the obvious spot to look for him. You've ''got'' to cover the place on the extremely unlikely chance he goes back there, but since it's so unlikely, Marcellus and Vincent probably saw it as a day off to sit around and eat donuts while everyone else looked for Butch.Butch.
** Why would a criminal boss be on the scene of a potential hit? Why wouldn't he simply wait for Butch to brought to him..or until proof that Butch was dead was provided?
* Why didn't Vincent and Jules wear gloves when they were in the apartment? Vincent opened several cabinets and was fiddling w/ items on the counter in the kitchen and Jules' fingerprints were on the wrapper of the burger?
** Why would a criminal boss be on the scene of a potential hit? Why wouldn't he simply wait for Butch to brought to him..or until proof that Butch was dead was provided?
* Why didn't Vincent and Jules wear gloves when they were in the apartment? Vincent opened several cabinets and was fiddling w/ items on the counter in the kitchen and Jules' fingerprints were on the wrapper of the burger?
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** Don't be a condescending asshole, please. Marcellus and his crew are organized crime. Organized crime, generally speaking, does ''not'' just randomly kill everyone that sees them, and they ''especially'' don't kill people who are friends and are ''doing them a huge favor by letting them hide out in their home''. You don't get people to help you in the future if you develop a reputation for killing people who help you. Organized crime is about reputation and respect, and you lose ''both'' really fast if you act the way you're suggesting.\\\
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** Don't be a condescending asshole, please. please, especially when you start off with such an incoherent sentence as that. I honestly can't make sense of it because, well, it's incoherent.\\\
Marcellus and his crew are organized crime. Organized crime, generally speaking, does ''not'' just randomly kill everyone that sees them, and they ''especially'' don't kill people who are friends and are ''doing them a huge favor by letting them hide out in their home''. You don't get people to help you in the future if you develop a reputation for killing people who help you. Organized crime is about reputation and respect, and you lose ''both'' really fast if you act the way you're suggesting.\\\
Marcellus and his crew are organized crime. Organized crime, generally speaking, does ''not'' just randomly kill everyone that sees them, and they ''especially'' don't kill people who are friends and are ''doing them a huge favor by letting them hide out in their home''. You don't get people to help you in the future if you develop a reputation for killing people who help you. Organized crime is about reputation and respect, and you lose ''both'' really fast if you act the way you're suggesting.\\\
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* Were Marvin and his friends hiding in an abandoned building? Wouldn't the yelling,screaming and multiple non-suppressed gunshots have attracted unwanted attention?
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* Were Marvin and his friends hiding in an abandoned building? Wouldn't the yelling,screaming yelling, screaming and multiple non-suppressed gunshots have attracted unwanted attention?attention?
** The scene only takes a few minutes, and gunshots [[RealityIsUnrealistic aren't necessarily recognized as such]], especially by people with little experience with guns. The first shots may have been dismissed by neighbors as a car backfiring, or a TV on too loud (remember, it's 7 am when this happens; the neighbors may still be asleep). When they finally gun Brett down, and Jules is being all contemplative about the "divine intervention," then people might've started making calls. You'll note that while Jules is pondering the meaning of life, Vincent is getting increasingly agitated and saying they should get out of there before the cops come.
** The scene only takes a few minutes, and gunshots [[RealityIsUnrealistic aren't necessarily recognized as such]], especially by people with little experience with guns. The first shots may have been dismissed by neighbors as a car backfiring, or a TV on too loud (remember, it's 7 am when this happens; the neighbors may still be asleep). When they finally gun Brett down, and Jules is being all contemplative about the "divine intervention," then people might've started making calls. You'll note that while Jules is pondering the meaning of life, Vincent is getting increasingly agitated and saying they should get out of there before the cops come.
** Butch ain't exactly a master criminal, and he has zero resources. He can't exactly call on the Wolf to solve his problem, and he just wanted to be out of there fast. Remember his gameplan was to be in Mexico somewhere by the end of the day.
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** Umm..then who was going to go "medieval" on the rapist's ass?ass?
*** He says he's going to call in some people for it. Considering his orders to find Butch, that he wants people looking everywhere, he's probably got a lot of people on the payroll. He and Vincent were staking out Butch's place, it's been speculated, because they probably thought it was the ''least'' likely place for Butch to be since it's the obvious spot to look for him. You've ''got'' to cover the place on the extremely unlikely chance he goes back there, but since it's so unlikely, Marcellus and Vincent probably saw it as a day off to sit around and eat donuts while everyone else looked for Butch.
*** He says he's going to call in some people for it. Considering his orders to find Butch, that he wants people looking everywhere, he's probably got a lot of people on the payroll. He and Vincent were staking out Butch's place, it's been speculated, because they probably thought it was the ''least'' likely place for Butch to be since it's the obvious spot to look for him. You've ''got'' to cover the place on the extremely unlikely chance he goes back there, but since it's so unlikely, Marcellus and Vincent probably saw it as a day off to sit around and eat donuts while everyone else looked for Butch.
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** Really? I don't? So...Jimmy being Jules partner but being "surprised for more than a few minutes about his criminal partner bringing a dead body by his home is rational? Or loudly complaining about his wife coming home to a murderer he doesn't even KNOW (Vincent Vega) was realistic? Really? What world do you live in,sport?
Also,California has a death penalty,which they aren't reluctant to hand out to killers. Given that Marvin's death links them to three additional deaths,it's not hard to imagine that Jimmy would be a loose end that they nor Marcellus could afford to have.
Also,California has a death penalty,which they aren't reluctant to hand out to killers. Given that Marvin's death links them to three additional deaths,it's not hard to imagine that Jimmy would be a loose end that they nor Marcellus could afford to have.
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** Really? I don't? So...Jimmy being Jules partner but being "surprised for more than a few minutes about his criminal partner bringing a dead body by his home is rational? Or loudly complaining about his wife coming home to a murderer he doesn't even KNOW (Vincent Vega) was realistic? Really? What world do you live in,sport?
Also,Californiain, sport?\\
Also, California has a deathpenalty,which penalty, which they aren't reluctant to hand out to killers. Given that Marvin's death links them to three additional deaths,it's deaths, it's not hard to imagine that Jimmy would be a loose end that they nor Marcellus could afford to have.
** Don't be a condescending asshole, please. Marcellus and his crew are organized crime. Organized crime, generally speaking, does ''not'' just randomly kill everyone that sees them, and they ''especially'' don't kill people who are friends and are ''doing them a huge favor by letting them hide out in their home''. You don't get people to help you in the future if you develop a reputation for killing people who help you. Organized crime is about reputation and respect, and you lose ''both'' really fast if you act the way you're suggesting.\\\
You kill people who have ''wronged'' you, but you reward the people who ''help'' you. You think ''any'' crime boss is going to stay in power for very long if word gets around that they kill anyone who ''helps'' them? That's the sort of reputation that leads to a bullet in the face pretty damn fast.\\\
Jimmy's hardly a loose end. He was Jules's partner, remember, not some random joker they ran into. He knows the score, and he's not going to rat out his former partner. As for whether or not Marcellus can "afford" it? He's clearly got a well-funded and organized organization, I'm sure he can "afford" a lot.\\\
You're basically suggesting they "avoid" the death penalty by killing even ''more'' people, and thus creating even ''more'' evidence that they'll have to get rid of somehow. Where, precisely, does it end? Believe it or not, murder doesn't necessarily solve a problem that started with murder.\\\
Oh, and spaces come after commas, "sport". Learn a bit of formatting.
Also,California
Also, California has a death
** Don't be a condescending asshole, please. Marcellus and his crew are organized crime. Organized crime, generally speaking, does ''not'' just randomly kill everyone that sees them, and they ''especially'' don't kill people who are friends and are ''doing them a huge favor by letting them hide out in their home''. You don't get people to help you in the future if you develop a reputation for killing people who help you. Organized crime is about reputation and respect, and you lose ''both'' really fast if you act the way you're suggesting.\\\
You kill people who have ''wronged'' you, but you reward the people who ''help'' you. You think ''any'' crime boss is going to stay in power for very long if word gets around that they kill anyone who ''helps'' them? That's the sort of reputation that leads to a bullet in the face pretty damn fast.\\\
Jimmy's hardly a loose end. He was Jules's partner, remember, not some random joker they ran into. He knows the score, and he's not going to rat out his former partner. As for whether or not Marcellus can "afford" it? He's clearly got a well-funded and organized organization, I'm sure he can "afford" a lot.\\\
You're basically suggesting they "avoid" the death penalty by killing even ''more'' people, and thus creating even ''more'' evidence that they'll have to get rid of somehow. Where, precisely, does it end? Believe it or not, murder doesn't necessarily solve a problem that started with murder.\\\
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** He was getting food for the stakeout with Vincent at Butch's place. It's not clear how large his organization is, because Jules and Vincent do pretty much everything for him in the movie and Jules just quit.
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** He was getting food for the stakeout with Vincent at Butch's place. It's not clear how large his organization is, because Jules and Vincent do pretty much everything for him in the movie and Jules just quit.quit.
** Umm..then who was going to go "medieval" on the rapist's ass?
** Umm..then who was going to go "medieval" on the rapist's ass?
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* When he encountered Butch why was Marcellus, a supposedly experienced criminal and a gang boss, walking across the street with both of his hands full of food and drinks? Was there no parking at the restaurant he got it from? Didn't he have people to get his takeout for him?
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* When he encountered Butch why was Marcellus, a supposedly experienced criminal and a gang boss, walking across the street with both of his hands full of food and drinks? Was there no parking at the restaurant he got it from? Didn't he have people to get his takeout for him?him?
** He was getting food for the stakeout with Vincent at Butch's place. It's not clear how large his organization is, because Jules and Vincent do pretty much everything for him in the movie and Jules just quit.
** He was getting food for the stakeout with Vincent at Butch's place. It's not clear how large his organization is, because Jules and Vincent do pretty much everything for him in the movie and Jules just quit.
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** Really? I don't? So...Jimmy being Jules partner but being "surprised for more than a few minutes about his criminal partner bringing a dead body by his home is rational? Or loudly complaining about his wife coming home to a murderer he doesn't even KNOW (Vincent Vega) was realistic? Really? What world do you live in,sport?
Also,California has a death penalty,which they aren't reluctant to hand out to killers. Given that Marvin's death links them to three additional deaths,it's not hard to imagine that Jimmy would be a loose end that they nor Marcellus could afford to have.
Also,California has a death penalty,which they aren't reluctant to hand out to killers. Given that Marvin's death links them to three additional deaths,it's not hard to imagine that Jimmy would be a loose end that they nor Marcellus could afford to have.
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** He's the rapists' sex slave.
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** He's the rapists' sex slave.slave.
* Were Marvin and his friends hiding in an abandoned building? Wouldn't the yelling,screaming and multiple non-suppressed gunshots have attracted unwanted attention?
* Wouldn't killing someone in his apartment and then not disposing of the body brought Butch even more problems than he had already?
* When he encountered Butch why was Marcellus, a supposedly experienced criminal and a gang boss, walking across the street with both of his hands full of food and drinks? Was there no parking at the restaurant he got it from? Didn't he have people to get his takeout for him?
* Were Marvin and his friends hiding in an abandoned building? Wouldn't the yelling,screaming and multiple non-suppressed gunshots have attracted unwanted attention?
* Wouldn't killing someone in his apartment and then not disposing of the body brought Butch even more problems than he had already?
* When he encountered Butch why was Marcellus, a supposedly experienced criminal and a gang boss, walking across the street with both of his hands full of food and drinks? Was there no parking at the restaurant he got it from? Didn't he have people to get his takeout for him?
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You really, ''really'' don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about here.
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You really, ''really'' don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about here.here.
* What precisely was the Gimp there for? Why was he being kept in a box? Is there an interview or commentary that explains his presence?
* What precisely was the Gimp there for? Why was he being kept in a box? Is there an interview or commentary that explains his presence?
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This and the fact that they left witnesses alive to potentially fatal situations (The drug dealers during Marcellus' wife's OD and,of course the guy whose house the brought Marvin to) has always bugged me.
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This and the fact that they left witnesses alive to potentially fatal situations (The drug dealers during Marcellus' wife's OD and,of course the guy whose house the brought Marvin to) has always bugged me.me.
** ...Seriously? Just because they're hitmen doesn't at ''all'' mean they should act anything at all like you're suggesting. In fact, that would be a profoundly stupid way of doing business. They're not psychotic murderers, they're hitmen, i.e., they kill who they're paid to kill, not anyone they just happen to run across.\\\
And as for Jimmy, Tarantino's character? He was a '''friend and partner of Jules'''. That's why they're at his house in the first place. He's ''doing them a favor'', and a huge one. They're civilized people, not stupid thugs.\\\
You really, ''really'' don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about here.
** ...Seriously? Just because they're hitmen doesn't at ''all'' mean they should act anything at all like you're suggesting. In fact, that would be a profoundly stupid way of doing business. They're not psychotic murderers, they're hitmen, i.e., they kill who they're paid to kill, not anyone they just happen to run across.\\\
And as for Jimmy, Tarantino's character? He was a '''friend and partner of Jules'''. That's why they're at his house in the first place. He's ''doing them a favor'', and a huge one. They're civilized people, not stupid thugs.\\\
You really, ''really'' don't have a clue what the hell you're talking about here.
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** The matter wasn't as simple as "get the splatter and the corspe out of the car, poof, [[InstantWinCondition problem solved]]". They needed a safe place to stash the corpse, for instance, and they knew Marsellus would know a guy who would have such a place. They also needed an ''expert'' in getting this kind of thing done ''effectively''. When you're risking several major felony charges, not least of which is murder, you don't want to take any chances being your own "cleaner" any more than you would want to be your own legal counsel/defense over those same charges.
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** The matter wasn't as simple as "get the splatter and the corspe out of the car, poof, [[InstantWinCondition problem solved]]". They needed a safe place to stash the corpse, for instance, and they knew Marsellus would know a guy who would have such a place. They also needed an ''expert'' in getting this kind of thing done ''effectively''. When you're risking several major felony charges, not least of which is murder, you don't want to take any chances being your own "cleaner" any more than you would want to be your own legal counsel/defense over those same charges.charges.
* It's shown at several points throughout the film that Vincent and Julius are both efficient,cold-blooded killers. This always made me wonder why various characters would ARGUE with them for more than few minutes.With the exception of the last two characters in the film,all of the people that they meet know that they are killers (in one case, they stop by a character's house WITH A BODY IN THEIR CAR and the character actually whines that his "wife will be home at any minute."
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This and the fact that they left witnesses alive to potentially fatal situations (The drug dealers during Marcellus' wife's OD and,of course the guy whose house the brought Marvin to) has always bugged me.
* It's shown at several points throughout the film that Vincent and Julius are both efficient,cold-blooded killers. This always made me wonder why various characters would ARGUE with them for more than few minutes.With the exception of the last two characters in the film,all of the people that they meet know that they are killers (in one case, they stop by a character's house WITH A BODY IN THEIR CAR and the character actually whines that his "wife will be home at any minute."
Seriously?
This and the fact that they left witnesses alive to potentially fatal situations (The drug dealers during Marcellus' wife's OD and,of course the guy whose house the brought Marvin to) has always bugged me.
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** "Where are the police?" Well... [[FateWorseThanDeath banging]] [[BadAss Marcellus]] [[BlackBaldLeaderGuy Wallace]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny like]] [[MemeticMutation a bitch]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint in a basement]].
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** "Where are the police?" Well... [[FateWorseThanDeath banging]] [[BadAss Marcellus]] [[BlackBaldLeaderGuy [[BaldBlackLeaderGuy Wallace]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny like]] [[MemeticMutation a bitch]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint in a basement]].
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** "Where are the police?" Well... [[FateWorseThanDeath banging]] [[BadAss Marcellus]] [[BlackBaldLeaderGuy Wallace]] [[CrowningMomentOfFunny like]] [[MemeticMutation a bitch]] [[CompletelyMissingThePoint in a basement]].
