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*** Perhaps that's because the moment Madoka becomes a witch and kills everything, she now no longer has anything that can kill her. Since she also violates the first and second laws of thermodynamics and keeps emitting despair, she would basically be an eternal star that could fuel Kyubey's civilization past heat death. Admittedly, this is becoming WMG, but it would make the ultimate AndIMustScream DownerEnding.
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**[[spoiler:Here are the answers. 1)You forgot the second half of her wish : it's not the "I want to meet Madoka again" that causes the time loop, it's "as someone who can protect her instead of being protected" that resets time every time Madoka is killed/turns into a witch. And 2)we're talking about magic here. QB himself said that magic has the power to bypass logic. The irregularity could have been pretty much anything ; he narrowed it down to time travel after getting to know her more.]]
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** [[spoiler:By the fourth timeline, we see that it isn't totally immediate. She returns to the day she gets ''discharged from the hospital'', and presumably only returns to school a couple days later. The fourth time around, we manage to see Homura holding a dead Kyuubey corpse, with the implication that she killed the Kyuubey that Madoka would have contracted with in the past timelines, thus staving off the contract.
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** [[spoiler:By the fourth timeline, we see that it isn't totally immediate. She returns to the day she gets ''discharged from the hospital'', and presumably only returns to school a couple days later. The fourth time around, we manage to see Homura holding a dead Kyuubey corpse, with the implication that she killed the Kyuubey that Madoka would have contracted with in the past timelines, thus staving off the contract.]]
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** [[spoiler:By the fourth timeline, we see that it isn't totally immediate. She returns to the day she gets ''discharged from the hospital'', and presumably only returns to school a couple days later. The fourth time around, we manage to see Homura holding a dead Kyuubey corpse, with the implication that she killed the Kyuubey that Madoka would have contracted with in the past timelines, thus staving off the contract.
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* Another question: the first time Homura [[spoiler:looped back, it was to her first day at school. By that point, Madoka already was in a contract, just like in the original timeline. The rest of the loops we see hint at this always being the case, so how come the Madoka of the latest timeline ''hasn't'' gone into a contract, or even met Mami yet, by the time Homura is transferred?]]
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* So, who knows how many loops ago, Homura began her contract on the wish that she could redo her meeting with Madoka. Question 1: why does the wish kick in every time she reaches the same point in the new timeline? The wish didn't state "redo AND save" so the first reset should've been enough to fulfill it. Two: the Kyubey from our "true" timeline takes a very long time to realize that Homura comes from an alternate timeline. Where ''did'' he think she came from, when he's the one who creates Puella Magi in the first place? Didn't he think it was weird when all of a sudden there's this magical girl he's never even met and she's trying to kill him? As far as we know, he's the only one assigned to Earth, and his line about "completing his quota and leaving" makes it even more likely that he's alone here.
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* So, who knows how many loops ago, Homura [[spoiler:Homura began her contract on the wish that she could redo her meeting with Madoka. Question 1: why does the wish kick in every time she reaches the same point in the new timeline? The wish didn't state "redo AND save" so the first reset should've been enough to fulfill it. Two: the Kyubey from our "true" timeline takes a very long time to realize that Homura comes from an alternate timeline. Where ''did'' he think she came from, when he's the one who creates Puella Magi in the first place? Didn't he think it was weird when all of a sudden there's this magical girl he's never even met and she's trying to kill him? As far as we know, he's the only one assigned to Earth, and his line about "completing his quota and leaving" makes it even more likely that he's alone here.]]
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* So, who knows how many loops ago, Homura began her contract on the wish that she could redo her meeting with Madoka. Question 1: why does the wish kick in every time she reaches the same point in the new timeline? The wish didn't state "redo AND save" so the first reset should've been enough to fulfill it. Two: the Kyubey from our "true" timeline takes a very long time to realize that Homura comes from an alternate timeline. Where ''did'' he think she came from, when he's the one who creates Puella Magi in the first place? Didn't he think it was weird when all of a sudden there's this magical girl he's never even met and she's trying to kill him? As far as we know, he's the only one assigned to Earth, and his line about "completing his quota and leaving" makes it even more likely that he's alone here.
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** Well,[[spoiler: Mami is [[FriendlySniper an ally who used guns for quite a long time.]]]]
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** So by Episode 10, we know that once Madoka becomes a witch, she can destroy the entire world, along with all human on it, in 10 days. As QB came to Earth to harvest energy to prevent the heat death of the universe, rooting out the source doesn't sounds like a good idea in the long term. While it does mention that he has met his quota, you would think something like saving the universe to be a more long-term plan.
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*** And I guess it's not like the force of magic that creates their costumes let's them decide where to put the Soul Gem. If Kyubey could decide that you'd think he'd at least put it somewhere where they can't be so easily hit, [[spoiler: thus depriving him of the energy they make when they eventually turn into witches. Same goes for the aforementioned suicide.]]
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** Well, most of the Puella Magi don't know that the Soul Gem [[spoiler: is a SoulJar.]]
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*Who thought it would be a good idea to put a Puella Magi's Soul Gem in a place where it could be so easily destroyed? As we saw in episode 10 [[spoiler: in the alternate timeline, Kyouko's soul gem was shattered in one simple shot by Mami, who's gem in turn was sniped by Madoka]].
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** Kyubey does seem to understand the notion of morality. He does seem to have principles like "don't lie" or "don't outright force or mind control" and a basic notion of fairness. It's quite possible that he wants to act in an ethical manner. They're just alien ethics. In fact, he more than once voices frustration about how bizarre human ethical standards are. Remember that, for example, asking interest or bribing officials are considered taboo in some parts of the world, while in many other places, they are considered perfectly natural aspects of business. Something similar may be going on here.
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** But even if we take for granted that harvesting angst energy will work and our PunyEarthling knowledge just isn't enough to understand why, why are they going after single individuals and giving them a choice? Given that they have absolutely no understanding of or respect for free will, emotion, or the sanctity of life, wouldn't it be more efficient to make factory farms instead?
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** I, for one, think he's full of ''shit.''
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** There are a couple of things to be considered here:
*** 1) Kyubey's explanation to Madoka was an extremely simplified one. In fact, he even makes a few small mistakes, since energy and entropy are closely related, but not the same thing. It's quite possible that he/they know more about the universe than we do and he just tried to give an explanation that she would understand.
*** 2) From a narrative perspective, this is a CosmicHorrorStory. One of the key points is that the antagonists are not just evil, but too alien to comprehend. Madoka obviously didn't get one iota of his explanation and only cares that they are being sacrificed for something that would in no way, shape or form ever impact them. Remember, Kyubey is worrying about something that will happen along the lines of 10^50 years from now. This may be a big deal for them, but the human race wouldn't care less.
*** 3) Combining points 1) and 2), we have no clue just what exactly Kyubey is going for. Perhaps the collected energy is not subject to decay and can be stored to fuel one island of civilization inside a dead universe. Perhaps they are testing whether the energy can be farmed on a more controlled basis. Perhaps we're already on the brink of heat death and we just don't know it. All that matters for story purposes is that the reasons are outside of human comprehension. What makes Lovecraftian gods so scary is that they are not just evil (because something like Satan's evil, we can still comprehend), but we don't even know why they do what they are doing or whether they can even reason at all. The writers here are going for the same effect.
*** 1) Kyubey's explanation to Madoka was an extremely simplified one. In fact, he even makes a few small mistakes, since energy and entropy are closely related, but not the same thing. It's quite possible that he/they know more about the universe than we do and he just tried to give an explanation that she would understand.
*** 2) From a narrative perspective, this is a CosmicHorrorStory. One of the key points is that the antagonists are not just evil, but too alien to comprehend. Madoka obviously didn't get one iota of his explanation and only cares that they are being sacrificed for something that would in no way, shape or form ever impact them. Remember, Kyubey is worrying about something that will happen along the lines of 10^50 years from now. This may be a big deal for them, but the human race wouldn't care less.
*** 3) Combining points 1) and 2), we have no clue just what exactly Kyubey is going for. Perhaps the collected energy is not subject to decay and can be stored to fuel one island of civilization inside a dead universe. Perhaps they are testing whether the energy can be farmed on a more controlled basis. Perhaps we're already on the brink of heat death and we just don't know it. All that matters for story purposes is that the reasons are outside of human comprehension. What makes Lovecraftian gods so scary is that they are not just evil (because something like Satan's evil, we can still comprehend), but we don't even know why they do what they are doing or whether they can even reason at all. The writers here are going for the same effect.
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** The scene where Sayaka makes her wish also does not involve her actually saying it. This seems to imply that you have to be able to picture the wish in your mind. "Curing all cancer" or "World peace" is probably too abstract of a concept to picture. Most people would like for cancer to be cured, but don't really have a strong emotional involvement in it, unless you have a loved one suffering from it... but then the true wish would once again come down to saving that loved one. Not to mention that Sayaka asks earlier whether someone else can be the recipient of the wish, which also seems to imply that the wish can only have one recipient. Whether this is a subconscious limitation or an actual limitation of the wish remains to be seen.
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**** That's not an emotional enough reaction for Kyubey's notice. Wishing for something that clever would be the opposite of what Kyubey would seek out. He'd seek out girls that would want to cure their own/their loved ones ailments without thinking of a bigger picture solution.
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**Still, we're talking about [[spoiler:the ENTIRE FREAKING UNIVERSE HERE, with TRILLIONS OF STARS. Also, doesn't it take work and therefore energy to contain energy in the first place? Therefore, storing the energy of magical girls would simply cancel the benefit for reducing entropy. And the fact that he can seemingly create mass and energy out of nowhere, why do we have a problem with entropy again?]]
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* As of episode 9 we now know Kyubey's real goals (if he's actually being entirely truthful this time). However even if what he is saying is true. I really doubt that [[spoiler: the energy generated by the emotions of magical girls, will actually help save the universe .Due to the fact that the energy the whole universe is spending by entropy is much more higher than whatever energy they could generate and regain by using the girl’s emotions.]] For instance I doubt a witch could regenerate the used energy of a star uses in an hour. Much less the whole universe.
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* As of episode 9 we now know kyubey real goals. However even if what he is saying is true. I really doubt that [[spoiler: the energy generated by the emotions of magical girls, will actually help save the universe .Due to the fact that the energy the whole universe is spending by entropy is much more higher than whatever energy they could generate and regain by using the girl’s emotions.]] For instance I doubt a wich witch could regenerate the used energy of a star uses in an hour. Much less the whole universe.
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** Probably because the fact that they're girls going through puberty. How many of you at that age would think, let's cure cancer and actually wish it.
** Probably because the fact that they're girls going through puberty. How many of you at that age would think, let's cure cancer and actually wish it.
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** Probably because the fact that they're girls going through puberty. How many of you at that age would think,let's "Let's cure cancer cancer," and actually wish it. it?
** Probably because the fact that they're girls going through puberty. How many of you at that age would think,
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** But on a more serious note, we're not sure what the conversion rate between normal energy and [[spoiler: magical girl/witch]] energy is. Maybe one ''can'' effectively replace a star with enough emotion. And we know Kyuubey has enough contracts that there is active fighting for territory amongst the Puella Magi, not to mention that [[spoiler: each of them effectively has two "modes" to create energy from.]]
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* Putting aside the AwfulTruth, why doesn't anyone consider wishing for something like, "I wish that no living creature would ever get cancer again"? They talk about money and power and luxury and saving individual lives, but never anything big, which seems like a bit of a waste of a wish that can literally do anything. If you're going to gamble your life[[spoiler:and/or soul]], it seems like you should try to get as much out of the deal as possible.
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** [[MemeticMutation IT'S MAGIC. I AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT.]]
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** But on a more serious note, we're not sure what the conversion rate between normal energy and [[spoiler: magical girl/witch]] energy is. Maybe one ''can'' effectively replace a star with enough emotion. And we know Kyuubey has enough contracts that there is active fighting for territory amongst the Puella Magi, not to mention that [[spoiler: each of them effectively has two "modes" to create energy from.]]
** But on a more serious note, we're not sure what the conversion rate between normal energy and [[spoiler: magical girl/witch]] energy is. Maybe one ''can'' effectively replace a star with enough emotion. And we know Kyuubey has enough contracts that there is active fighting for territory amongst the Puella Magi, not to mention that [[spoiler: each of them effectively has two "modes" to create energy from.]]
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** [[MemeticMutation IT'S MAGIC. I AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT.]]
** [[MemeticMutation IT'S MAGIC. I AIN'T GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT.]]
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