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* If Dwarf Bulborbs are actually just Breadbug mimics, then why do the larger bulborbs protect and defend them? Are they like cuckoos, which eat the Bulborbs's actual young and take their place? How come they aren't eaten themselves by the big bulborbs?
* Why in the name of God do Olimar and Louie's spacesuits have an "auto-sleep" function? What the hell kind of purpose is that supposed to serve? If it weren't for that, they wouldn't have needed rescuing so much!
** My guess? Poorly implemented stasis. It saves energy so they can get through dangerous situations, like a monster's digestive system, without starving to death, etc. In practice... it doesn't turn out so well, as is the habit of Hocotatian technology.
** They are an interstellar counterpart to truck drivers. Truck drivers are notorious for ignoring their mandatory break periods and driving while severely sleep-deprived.
** The auto-sleep function could have a few practical uses, like making sure they get the proper amount of rest (as suggested above) or as a way of conserving energy and resources on particularly long trips through space when you have an auto-pilot or someone else to drive while you sleep. A better example of FridgeLogic with the auto-sleep isn't the fact that it exists at all, but the fact that it can be activated by another person/creature or, as Charlie mentions, extreme stress, both situations where suddenly passing out is a very bad thing. That's a feature that only the person wearing the suit should be able to activate, or if it absolutely must have an automatic trigger, it should be something like the wearer starting to show signs of severe sleep deprivation.
* Koppaites breathe oxygen. Hocotatians breathe something else and are killed by oxygen. When Louie is in the Drake, his helmet is off. Why is he not dead?
** May creep into FridgeHorror, especially after the implications of the final boss of the second game: just how Hocotatian is he anymore...?
** Koppaites can tolerate oxygen, but is it ever stated they ''need'' it?
** Oxygen is harmful to Koppaites too. A talking segment before you start the day has Alph warning Charlie not to take off his helmet while on PNF-404 because its oxygen levels are higher than that of Koppai.
* Why can't Winged Pikmin just fly away during the night? I mean, if you leave them behind, they stay LOW ON GROUND LEVEL instead of flying just above the creatures. Yeah, it's to make them not to so cheap as to be invincible during the night, but still...
** Because there are still flying enemies, presumably airborne predators that we don’t see, or they get tired (given how it’s night and they’re plants) and hence still take cover in the onion.
* Why in the name of God do Olimar and Louie's spacesuits have an "auto-sleep" function? What the hell kind of purpose is that supposed to serve? If it weren't for that, they wouldn't have needed rescuing so much!
** My guess? Poorly implemented stasis. It saves energy so they can get through dangerous situations, like a monster's digestive system, without starving to death, etc. In practice... it doesn't turn out so well, as is the habit of Hocotatian technology.
** They are an interstellar counterpart to truck drivers. Truck drivers are notorious for ignoring their mandatory break periods and driving while severely sleep-deprived.
** The auto-sleep function could have a few practical uses, like making sure they get the proper amount of rest (as suggested above) or as a way of conserving energy and resources on particularly long trips through space when you have an auto-pilot or someone else to drive while you sleep. A better example of FridgeLogic with the auto-sleep isn't the fact that it exists at all, but the fact that it can be activated by another person/creature or, as Charlie mentions, extreme stress, both situations where suddenly passing out is a very bad thing. That's a feature that only the person wearing the suit should be able to activate, or if it absolutely must have an automatic trigger, it should be something like the wearer starting to show signs of severe sleep deprivation.
* Koppaites breathe oxygen. Hocotatians breathe something else and are killed by oxygen. When Louie is in the Drake, his helmet is off. Why is he not dead?
** May creep into FridgeHorror, especially after the implications of the final boss of the second game: just how Hocotatian is he anymore...?
** Koppaites can tolerate oxygen, but is it ever stated they ''need'' it?
** Oxygen is harmful to Koppaites too. A talking segment before you start the day has Alph warning Charlie not to take off his helmet while on PNF-404 because its oxygen levels are higher than that of Koppai.
* Why can't Winged Pikmin just fly away during the night? I mean, if you leave them behind, they stay LOW ON GROUND LEVEL instead of flying just above the creatures. Yeah, it's to make them not to so cheap as to be invincible during the night, but still...
** Because there are still flying enemies, presumably airborne predators that we don’t see, or they get tired (given how it’s night and they’re plants) and hence still take cover in the onion.
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* I have concerns about Louie's grandma/auntie. Did she mistreat Louie or something? It's said that she always made Louie play outside with bugs when he was little, making me assume she didn't actually spend time with him herself. There's also the fact that she always made Louie finish everything on his plate, even if he was too full, making him the BigEater he is today. Eventually all you get is letters from Louie's grandma/auntie sending preserved bug foods. Not preserved bugs. ''Bug food''. Did she even feed him real food she made him finish eating? Sure, it [[HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood sounds funny]], but still, it makes me wonder...
** Maybe it's actually cooked bugs.
** It's not necessarily "mistreating" him. Making him play outside could just be her getting him to play outside so he could get exercise and fresh air, and making him clean his plate goes along with the old idea of parents not wanting their kids to waste food. As for the "bug food"... it could be that he just likes eating it, and she's sending it because he likes it.
** Maybe it's actually cooked bugs.
** It's not necessarily "mistreating" him. Making him play outside could just be her getting him to play outside so he could get exercise and fresh air, and making him clean his plate goes along with the old idea of parents not wanting their kids to waste food. As for the "bug food"... it could be that he just likes eating it, and she's sending it because he likes it.
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* In the ending to ''Pikmin 2'', what happened to the Purple and White Pikmin? Their only home up to this point was the ship, but it had taken off to Hocotate. And, seeing as the Distant Planet's atmosphere is deadly to Olimar, Hocotate's atmosphere might be deadly to the Pikmin unless they -- or at least the cave-grown types -- have some unstated resistance to it. What really raises the question is the "first" ending when you only pay off the debt and do not get all the treasures: the ship returns to Hocotate, goes back to the planet, but the Purples and Whites are still inside the ship. Does this mean that for both endings, Olimar brought two types of Pikmin to his homeworld twice?
** If you watch the 17/5/2013 footage for Pikmin 3, what looks like a new type of Onion is hanging from a plant, the player has to grab it with the Pikmin, they can store multiple types of Pikmin at once, rather then just one type.. Whether these Onions evolved from the ones in previous games or are a completely new type of Onion isn't known but I suspect they adapt themselves to whatever Pikmin type gets inside it. Thus, White and Purple Pikmin likely were able to hole up inside these new Onions. Since Blue, Red and Yellow Onions aren't able/willing to store Purple and White Pikmin the only alternative is that they were eaten. The new Onion type is literally the only way to store these types of Pikmin.
** Also, at one point you can see Grey Pellets being carried by Rock Pikmin, meaning they really were being eaten by the Medusal Slurker. It's likely that these new Onions generate a number of Pikmin based on the colour of the Pellet instead of whichever Onion the pellet enters. The real question then is "what happens if they carry a dead enemy back to the Onion?"
** If you watch the 17/5/2013 footage for Pikmin 3, what looks like a new type of Onion is hanging from a plant, the player has to grab it with the Pikmin, they can store multiple types of Pikmin at once, rather then just one type.. Whether these Onions evolved from the ones in previous games or are a completely new type of Onion isn't known but I suspect they adapt themselves to whatever Pikmin type gets inside it. Thus, White and Purple Pikmin likely were able to hole up inside these new Onions. Since Blue, Red and Yellow Onions aren't able/willing to store Purple and White Pikmin the only alternative is that they were eaten. The new Onion type is literally the only way to store these types of Pikmin.
** Also, at one point you can see Grey Pellets being carried by Rock Pikmin, meaning they really were being eaten by the Medusal Slurker. It's likely that these new Onions generate a number of Pikmin based on the colour of the Pellet instead of whichever Onion the pellet enters. The real question then is "what happens if they carry a dead enemy back to the Onion?"
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* In the promotional media for Pikmin 1, the Smokey Progg was often refered to as the 'God/Lord of Pikmin' (forget which exactly). My question... ''Why''? I mean, I could understand the Mamuta sense they flower Pikmin willingly, but other than the fact that it's theoryed to be a malformed Mamuta larva and can uproot Pikmin with a roar, there's nothing in-game that really suggest it has any special connection to the Pikmin.
** According to the wiki for Pikmin, it's the Mamuta itself that is referred to as the "God of Pikmin" by the Prima guide. God in this case being more along the lines of Protector. Considering that it plants pikmin and nothing seems to bother them when they are still in the ground. It also refers to Smoky Progg as the Lord. Why the latter is referred to as a Lord could be due to its roar resembling how a king would tell it's subjects to rise (in this case out of the ground).
** According to the wiki for Pikmin, it's the Mamuta itself that is referred to as the "God of Pikmin" by the Prima guide. God in this case being more along the lines of Protector. Considering that it plants pikmin and nothing seems to bother them when they are still in the ground. It also refers to Smoky Progg as the Lord. Why the latter is referred to as a Lord could be due to its roar resembling how a king would tell it's subjects to rise (in this case out of the ground).
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* Why is Olimar so willing to return to the Pikmin homeworld in Pikmin 2? He went through all of the first game horrified by the deaths he was causing by being there. Sure, he kept at it for the sake of survival, but it doesn't make much sense for him to actively go back there and cause ''even more'' death, all for the sake of his company. Surely an experienced space pilot of Olimar's resolve and intelligence could find another job? And even if he is so determined to keep Hocotate Freight afloat, why doesn't he show any signs of sadness or regret over what he continues to do to the planet's creatures in any of Pikmin 2?
** Olimar might have actually wanted to help President. Remember the black hole loan sharks?
** Olimar's ship got repossessed to help pay off the debt. He could be going back just so he can make enough money to buy his ship back. That's even his motivation for being on the planet ''again'' in Pikmin 3.
* Why do enemies give Pokos in ''Pikmin 2'', if not just for something that happens when you take them to the ship? If the Hocotatians would pay 15 Pokos for an Emperor Bulblax to put in their living room, they've got problems.
** One can sell them for food. With Louie's recipes, they could be edible.
** There's also the possiblity that scientist/biologiest would want to study these strange creatures from a realitively new planet never heard of before. Olimar ''does'' mention in a few of his notes on the creatures in Pikmin 2 that several scientist have been studying and dissecting the creatures on the planet.
** Olimar might have actually wanted to help President. Remember the black hole loan sharks?
** Olimar's ship got repossessed to help pay off the debt. He could be going back just so he can make enough money to buy his ship back. That's even his motivation for being on the planet ''again'' in Pikmin 3.
* Why do enemies give Pokos in ''Pikmin 2'', if not just for something that happens when you take them to the ship? If the Hocotatians would pay 15 Pokos for an Emperor Bulblax to put in their living room, they've got problems.
** One can sell them for food. With Louie's recipes, they could be edible.
** There's also the possiblity that scientist/biologiest would want to study these strange creatures from a realitively new planet never heard of before. Olimar ''does'' mention in a few of his notes on the creatures in Pikmin 2 that several scientist have been studying and dissecting the creatures on the planet.
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* So, when Alph and Brittany are discussin Hocotatian feeding habits(they're vegetarian, as it turns out), it suddenly bugged me: why are they only going after fruit, then? There are massive sources of meat in this planet, what's the objection they have to eating bulborb or snagret?
** Could be they're too [[{{Squick}} squicked out]] at the ideal to consider it. Afterall, so far the only one whose considered eatting the planets creatures is [[CloudCuckooLander Louie]], and he has noted that a lot of the creatures have some nasty side effects if you eat the wrong ones. Besides, the fruit seeds give a more sustainable food scource due to being able to cultivate them as opposed to the rather dangerious task of hunting the creatures on the planet.
** It's possible that Koppaites are herbivores (specifically, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugivore frugivores]]), and so don't go after meat due to not being able to get sustenence from it (similar to how humans can't eat dirt, even though earthworms can.)
** It's explained in-game that the Koppaians actually look for seeds to bring back to Koppai. You weren't thinking that they were hoping to feed an entire planet just with the food the three could find if it's barely enough to feed ''them'', right? Meat is much less practical. It kinda begs the question of why ''they'' don't eat the creatures, then. Though that's probably because the Pikmin won't let them have what they can feed to the Onion instead.
** It's also explained in-game that Koppaites only gain nutrition from a vitamin known as "Piktamin U". This is also why the Koppaites couldn't get help from the Hocotations - vegetables contain very little Piktamin U. Judging by how meat is never shown to be an option, it likely has little-to-none as well.
* In the end, why is the onion in Pikmin 3 so different from the onions in Pikmin 1 and 2? They have this weird technological look, and they merge into only one(OOC, obviously because a landing point for one ship and 5 onions would be hella big), but that was never explained or touched on.
** Most common theory is that the Onions in Pikmin 3 are Onions at a later stage in their evolution cycle. Could also be a different species of Onion all together though, like how their are many different types of Bulborbs.
* Something I always wondered and was hoping Pikmin 3 would answer, but... Would White Pikmin be immune to Puffstool spores? Their primary ability is the fact that they're immune to toxins, and some spores could be considered toxic so...
** Could be they're too [[{{Squick}} squicked out]] at the ideal to consider it. Afterall, so far the only one whose considered eatting the planets creatures is [[CloudCuckooLander Louie]], and he has noted that a lot of the creatures have some nasty side effects if you eat the wrong ones. Besides, the fruit seeds give a more sustainable food scource due to being able to cultivate them as opposed to the rather dangerious task of hunting the creatures on the planet.
** It's possible that Koppaites are herbivores (specifically, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugivore frugivores]]), and so don't go after meat due to not being able to get sustenence from it (similar to how humans can't eat dirt, even though earthworms can.)
** It's explained in-game that the Koppaians actually look for seeds to bring back to Koppai. You weren't thinking that they were hoping to feed an entire planet just with the food the three could find if it's barely enough to feed ''them'', right? Meat is much less practical. It kinda begs the question of why ''they'' don't eat the creatures, then. Though that's probably because the Pikmin won't let them have what they can feed to the Onion instead.
** It's also explained in-game that Koppaites only gain nutrition from a vitamin known as "Piktamin U". This is also why the Koppaites couldn't get help from the Hocotations - vegetables contain very little Piktamin U. Judging by how meat is never shown to be an option, it likely has little-to-none as well.
* In the end, why is the onion in Pikmin 3 so different from the onions in Pikmin 1 and 2? They have this weird technological look, and they merge into only one(OOC, obviously because a landing point for one ship and 5 onions would be hella big), but that was never explained or touched on.
** Most common theory is that the Onions in Pikmin 3 are Onions at a later stage in their evolution cycle. Could also be a different species of Onion all together though, like how their are many different types of Bulborbs.
* Something I always wondered and was hoping Pikmin 3 would answer, but... Would White Pikmin be immune to Puffstool spores? Their primary ability is the fact that they're immune to toxins, and some spores could be considered toxic so...
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* So, when Alph and Brittany are discussin Hocotatian feeding habits(they're vegetarian, as it turns out), it suddenly bugged me: why are they only going after fruit, then? There are massive sources of meat in this planet, what's the objection they have to eating bulborb or snagret?
** Could be they're too [[{{Squick}} squicked out]] at the ideal to consider it. Afterall, so far the only one whose considered eatting the planets creatures is [[CloudCuckooLander Louie]], and he has noted that a lot of the creatures have some nasty side effects if you eat the wrong ones. Besides, the fruit seeds give a more sustainable food scource due to being able to cultivate them as opposed to the rather dangerious task of hunting the creatures on the planet.
** It's possible that Koppaites are herbivores (specifically, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugivore frugivores]]), and so don't go after meat due to not being able to get sustenence from it (similar to how humans can't eat dirt, even though earthworms can.)
** It's explained in-game that the Koppaians actually look for seeds to bring back to Koppai. You weren't thinking that they were hoping to feed an entire planet just with the food the three could find if it's barely enough to feed ''them'', right? Meat is much less practical. It kinda begs the question of why ''they'' don't eat the creatures, then. Though that's probably because the Pikmin won't let them have what they can feed to the Onion instead.
** It's also explained in-game that Koppaites only gain nutrition from a vitamin known as "Piktamin U". This is also why the Koppaites couldn't get help from the Hocotations - vegetables contain very little Piktamin U. Judging by how meat is never shown to be an option, it likely has little-to-none as well.
* In the end, why is the onion in Pikmin 3 so different from the onions in Pikmin 1 and 2? They have this weird technological look, and they merge into only one(OOC, obviously because a landing point for one ship and 5 onions would be hella big), but that was never explained or touched on.
** Most common theory is that the Onions in Pikmin 3 are Onions at a later stage in their evolution cycle. Could also be a different species of Onion all together though, like how their are many different types of Bulborbs.
* Something I always wondered and was hoping Pikmin 3 would answer, but...Would White Pikmin be immune to Puffstool spores? Their primary ability is the fact that they're immune to toxins, and some spores could be considered toxic so...
** Could be they're too [[{{Squick}} squicked out]] at the ideal to consider it. Afterall, so far the only one whose considered eatting the planets creatures is [[CloudCuckooLander Louie]], and he has noted that a lot of the creatures have some nasty side effects if you eat the wrong ones. Besides, the fruit seeds give a more sustainable food scource due to being able to cultivate them as opposed to the rather dangerious task of hunting the creatures on the planet.
** It's possible that Koppaites are herbivores (specifically, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugivore frugivores]]), and so don't go after meat due to not being able to get sustenence from it (similar to how humans can't eat dirt, even though earthworms can.)
** It's explained in-game that the Koppaians actually look for seeds to bring back to Koppai. You weren't thinking that they were hoping to feed an entire planet just with the food the three could find if it's barely enough to feed ''them'', right? Meat is much less practical. It kinda begs the question of why ''they'' don't eat the creatures, then. Though that's probably because the Pikmin won't let them have what they can feed to the Onion instead.
** It's also explained in-game that Koppaites only gain nutrition from a vitamin known as "Piktamin U". This is also why the Koppaites couldn't get help from the Hocotations - vegetables contain very little Piktamin U. Judging by how meat is never shown to be an option, it likely has little-to-none as well.
* In the end, why is the onion in Pikmin 3 so different from the onions in Pikmin 1 and 2? They have this weird technological look, and they merge into only one(OOC, obviously because a landing point for one ship and 5 onions would be hella big), but that was never explained or touched on.
** Most common theory is that the Onions in Pikmin 3 are Onions at a later stage in their evolution cycle. Could also be a different species of Onion all together though, like how their are many different types of Bulborbs.
* Something I always wondered and was hoping Pikmin 3 would answer, but...
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* In Pikmin 1, Olimar after retrieving the geiger counter mentions that it keeps making clicks and noises. Incase you don't know, a geiger counter measures radiation levels. Does that mean the '''ENTIRE''' planet is contaminated with radiation?
** If you take some [=WMGs=] seriously, yes.
** Geiger counters are sensitive enough to keep clicking away even in areas with virtually no notable amounts of radiation. It's just as likely to be picking up harmless levels of background radiation.
** If you take some [=WMGs=] seriously, yes.
** Geiger counters are sensitive enough to keep clicking away even in areas with virtually no notable amounts of radiation. It's just as likely to be picking up harmless levels of background radiation.
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* In [[spoiler: the final level of Pikmin 3, they say that you can't go up the geyser with Olimar. Why? It was perfectly safe for the Koppai trio to go up. Better yet, why not just have Winged Pikmin carry him up?]]
** Well, they do mention that the Pikmin seemed confused about where to go [[spoiler: when they start carrying Olimar back, and have to be guided by one of the captains back to the Onion and ship.]] It could be that [[spoiler: the Plasma Wraith]] can mess with their natural ability to know where their onion is in some fashion. As for why the Winged Pikmin [[spoiler: can't just fly up and over the geyser... Maybe it's a deal where they can only fly so far off the ground, even though they've managed to fly higher in game before?]] Other than that, only other thing I can think of is "[[MST3KMantra gameplay reasons]]".
* Okay. So in one of the many character conversations Alph, Brittney, and Charlie have, they make mention of how they actually ''can'' breathe oxygen, but PNF-404's oxygen levels are way higher than what a Koppaite can normally handle. Later on [[spoiler: when the crew brings Louie aboard their ship, whose a Hocotatien, which oxygen is highly poisonous too]], he's seen there without his helmet on. This brings the question, if the Koppai crew is breathing oxygen in their ship, albeit lower levels of it than what's on PNF-404, [[spoiler: how come Louie doesn't end up dying during the time it takes for the Koppai crew to track down Olimar and gather all the fruit?]]
** Most likely they "can" breathe oxygen in the same sense that humans "can" breathe carbon dioxide; they can tolerate a certain amount, but they don't actually use it in their life processes, so there's no reason to put any in their ship's artificial atmosphere.
** Alternatively, it was an oversight and the destructive behavior witnessed later can be traced back to oxygen poisoning.
* In Pikmin 2, why is the treasure "The Key" so light? Even if it's hollow and made of plastic, a treasure about the size of a 10 Pellet should at least take more then one Pikmin to carry.
** It was made incredibly light so that it would be at least possible to complete the challenge stages (where the goal is to collect the key to get the hole to the next level or geyser to complete it) even if you're down to a single Pikmin. As for an in-universe reason... The Key is a strange object that can somehow interacts with other dimensions and it resembles the keys from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' that unlock alternate exits. So it's possible it might not even be "real" in a sense.
** Well, they do mention that the Pikmin seemed confused about where to go [[spoiler: when they start carrying Olimar back, and have to be guided by one of the captains back to the Onion and ship.]] It could be that [[spoiler: the Plasma Wraith]] can mess with their natural ability to know where their onion is in some fashion. As for why the Winged Pikmin [[spoiler: can't just fly up and over the geyser... Maybe it's a deal where they can only fly so far off the ground, even though they've managed to fly higher in game before?]] Other than that, only other thing I can think of is "[[MST3KMantra gameplay reasons]]".
* Okay. So in one of the many character conversations Alph, Brittney, and Charlie have, they make mention of how they actually ''can'' breathe oxygen, but PNF-404's oxygen levels are way higher than what a Koppaite can normally handle. Later on [[spoiler: when the crew brings Louie aboard their ship, whose a Hocotatien, which oxygen is highly poisonous too]], he's seen there without his helmet on. This brings the question, if the Koppai crew is breathing oxygen in their ship, albeit lower levels of it than what's on PNF-404, [[spoiler: how come Louie doesn't end up dying during the time it takes for the Koppai crew to track down Olimar and gather all the fruit?]]
** Most likely they "can" breathe oxygen in the same sense that humans "can" breathe carbon dioxide; they can tolerate a certain amount, but they don't actually use it in their life processes, so there's no reason to put any in their ship's artificial atmosphere.
** Alternatively, it was an oversight and the destructive behavior witnessed later can be traced back to oxygen poisoning.
* In Pikmin 2, why is the treasure "The Key" so light? Even if it's hollow and made of plastic, a treasure about the size of a 10 Pellet should at least take more then one Pikmin to carry.
** It was made incredibly light so that it would be at least possible to complete the challenge stages (where the goal is to collect the key to get the hole to the next level or geyser to complete it) even if you're down to a single Pikmin. As for an in-universe reason... The Key is a strange object that can somehow interacts with other dimensions and it resembles the keys from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioWorld'' that unlock alternate exits. So it's possible it might not even be "real" in a sense.
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* You know that snowman that you see when you get to the latter portion of the Valley of Repose in Pikmin 2? The one you have to get passed a bunch of enemies to get to? Yeah, ''who made that?''
** Well, ''Pikmin 2'' was created before the developers decided to go with the HumanitysWake trope for the setting, so it's likely it was intended to have been made by the humans who were still around at that point. As for the similar structure in ''Pikmin 3'', could be a case of their being new intelligent life on the planet of some sorts. What they are, and how big they are, is something that may never be explained.
** Could just be humans. Most likely evolution has made "humans" into something we no longer recognize but sizable amounts of human culture has remained intact anyway.
** Well, ''Pikmin 2'' was created before the developers decided to go with the HumanitysWake trope for the setting, so it's likely it was intended to have been made by the humans who were still around at that point. As for the similar structure in ''Pikmin 3'', could be a case of their being new intelligent life on the planet of some sorts. What they are, and how big they are, is something that may never be explained.
** Could just be humans. Most likely evolution has made "humans" into something we no longer recognize but sizable amounts of human culture has remained intact anyway.
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* How did Louie get to the Twilight River? The Hocotate Ship is found in the Garden of Hope, having been heavily damaged and presumably rendered broken by the Mireclops, but you find Louie on a completely separate ''land mass'' than that, with nothing but ocean in between. How'd he get over there if the ship is firmly planted in one spot? The only possible way I can think of is that, like in Pikmin 2, the ship hit something and he fell out, ''then'' it landed in the Garden of Hope where the Mireclops got a hold of it, but that's never really hinted at, so...?
** Louie seems to be pretty good at getting places on PNF-404 without any Pikmin to help him -- him getting to the bottom of the Dream Den in Pikmin 2, for example. And looking at the map, the Twilight River is roughly between the Garden of Hope (Where he crashed) and the Formidable Oak (Where Olimar was taken). So my guess? After crashing, he set off from the Garden toward the Oak to find Olimar, only to wash downstream and end up where he's found in-game.
* If the Pikmin 2 ship [[spoiler: becomes golden after the debt is repaid, why is it normal in Pikmin 3? Also, it had a personality. Is it dead? Does no one care?]]
** Louie seems to be pretty good at getting places on PNF-404 without any Pikmin to help him -- him getting to the bottom of the Dream Den in Pikmin 2, for example. And looking at the map, the Twilight River is roughly between the Garden of Hope (Where he crashed) and the Formidable Oak (Where Olimar was taken). So my guess? After crashing, he set off from the Garden toward the Oak to find Olimar, only to wash downstream and end up where he's found in-game.
* If the Pikmin 2 ship [[spoiler: becomes golden after the debt is repaid, why is it normal in Pikmin 3? Also, it had a personality. Is it dead? Does no one care?]]
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** Louie seems to be pretty good at getting places on PNF-404 without any Pikmin to help him -- him getting to the bottom of the Dream Den in Pikmin 2, for example. And looking at the map, the Twilight River is roughly between the Garden of Hope (Where he crashed) and the Formidable Oak (Where Olimar was taken). So my guess? After crashing, he set off from the Garden toward the Oak to find Olimar, only to wash downstream and end up where he's found in-game.
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* How do the data files in Pikmin 3 work? Is it like an SD card? Why would Olimar save each note or journal entry separately and how did they get to some of these places? He also left one as a note "to the survivors" when he found Charlie's crash site. Why did he put it in water?
** While I'm not sure about the first part, Olimar likely put it in the water so that only the Koppaites would be able to reach it -- I can't recall there being any enemies in the area of that message that could enter water, so it would have been a safe place to leave it.
** While I'm not sure about the first part, Olimar likely put it in the water so that only the Koppaites would be able to reach it -- I can't recall there being any enemies in the area of that message that could enter water, so it would have been a safe place to leave it.
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* In ''4'', why didn't the Rescue Corps just cut their losses and leave once it became clear that Louie wanted to stay on PNF-404? He was already being hostile towards them in their attempts at saving him, so they could have just saved the people he converted and then left him alone.
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* In ''4'', why didn't the Rescue Corps just cut their losses and leave once it became clear that Louie wanted to stay on PNF-404? He was already being hostile towards them in their attempts at saving him, so they could have just saved the people he converted and then left him alone.
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* How are the fruits on PNF-404 still recognizable? It's been long enough that animals and insects have evolved into bizarre forms, and even the plants are not immune to this (the Pikmin themselves). Meanwhile, there are things like apples and watermelons that are no different than what we could get today. How?
