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** Because by that logic, she already turned sixteen as a tree. She hadn't become the prophesied child, so one can conclude that either it's going by physical age or it's not supposed to be her anyway. Either way, becoming immortal closes any lingering possibility.
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*It's mentioned that Talos continued to run through the junkyard as different parts of it flew off. Bianca could have been thrown into literally any part of the junkyard. I don't think there's any mystery about them failing to find her corpse -- they looked inside the pieces they could find, but she could have been thrown farther away into a junk heap or underneath a stray piece.
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* This has been bugging me for years. What happened to Bianca's body? It's like she vanished. Percy and the others spent hours searching through the statue of Talos and didn't find a trace of her. Where did her body go?
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* Would Kronos's takeover of Olympus and Earth have been that bad? Last time he was in charge, humanity experienced some kind of golden age.
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*** On the flipside, much ado is made in that book about Thalia's 16th birthday approaching, which Thalia states to be the same birthday she remembers from before turning into a tree (December 22nd). So either Thalia aged a whole number of human-years in tree form, or the anniversary of your birth maintains its significance, even if your aging has been slowed.

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*** On the flipside, much ado is made in that book about Thalia's 16th birthday approaching, which Thalia states to be the same birthday she remembers from before turning into a tree (December 22nd). So either Thalia aged a whole number of human-years in tree form, form (which would've been quite a remarkable coincidence, and yet is never remarked upon), or the anniversary of your birth maintains its significance, even if your aging has been slowed.
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*** On the flipside, much ado is made in that book about Thalia's 16th birthday approaching, which Thalia states to be the same birthday she remembers from before turning into a tree (December 22nd). So either Thalia aged a whole number of human-years in tree form, or the anniversary of your birth maintains its significance, even if your aging has been slowed.
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** It may be that since a sailing ship has much fewer moving parts than a submarine, theoretically he ''could'' control a submarine, but it would involve a lot more effort.


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** So, her English is actually more seventeenth than sixteenth century, and even then, it's still fairly up to date (she'd be fairly incomprehensible to Percy and the other demigods were she speaking Shakespearean English or even fully seventeenth-century English). That being said, very likely it's an intentional choice; probably she enjoyed the English spoken at that time, and kept using it even after it "fell out of fashion." Since she probably doesn't interact too much with people outside the Hunters and Artemis (with whom she could speak just about any language she likes), she hasn't felt the need to update her language.
** Additionally, supplementary material tells us that Olympus actually was in England until about the eighteenth century (Arthur and Merlin were both demigods, and I think Guinevere was too), so she most likely did have a lot of quests in medieval and early modern England.
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* How did the pirates get off of Circe's island? It's mentioned in Heroes of Olympus that Reyna and Hylla were on Circe's island during Sea of Monsters (I think Hylla was even mentioned by name) and were captured by the pirates only for Hylla to out-pirate them so Blackbeard put them ashore. Here's the root of the question: Percy and Annabeth stole Blackbeard's ship and Ployphemus sank it. Percy doesn't describe any other sailing ships the pirates would know how to use docked at the island, except maybe dugout canoes, but those aren't big enough.
** Maybe Blackbeard was able to get Ares to loan him a ship of zombies like Clarisse did?
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Sorry, y'all. I keep forgetting that she's a past-tense gal now..... *breaks down sobbing*


* The explanation given in ''The Titan's Curse'' for Zoë's archaic dialect is that she was alive since the time of ancient Greek civilization, and had trouble keeping up with updates in language. But how does that explain why she very specifically spoke in ''Shakespearean English'' with the gang? She lived through far more stages of the English language's development; why does she find this particular one easier than the rest? Did she have a lot of quests in medieval England? How long does it take for her to get used to the changes? Can the language majors please educate me on this one?

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* The explanation given in ''The Titan's Curse'' for Zoë's archaic dialect is that she was alive since the time of ancient Greek civilization, and had trouble keeping up with updates in language. But how does that explain why she very specifically spoke in ''Shakespearean English'' with the gang? She lived through far more stages of the English language's development; why does did she find this particular one easier than the rest? Did she have a lot of quests in medieval England? How long does did it take for her to get used to the changes? Can the language majors please educate me on this one?
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* The explanation given in ''The Titan's Curse'' for Zoë's archaic dialect is that she was alive since the time of ancient Greek civilization, and had trouble keeping up with updates in language. But how does that explain why she very specifically spoke in ''Shakespearean English'' with the gang? She lived through far more stages of the English language's development; why does she find this particular one easier than the rest? Did she have a lot of quests in medieval England? How long does it take for her to get used to the changes? Can the language majors please educate me on this one?
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** To stop fluids belonging to the guy in charge of the whole ocean, it would have to be a pretty strong condom.
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** Because this is a series about Greek mythology. If a completely new god were to be introduced, it wouldn't be Greek mythology anymore. It would be a purely Riordan creation. It would go against the entire premise of the series. All in all, no new gods being introduced is an AcceptableBreaksFromReality.
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** Because of her time as a tree. Being inside the tree already slowed her physical growth by 3–4 years. If the prophecy were counting actual age, then Thalia already turned 16 a couple of years ago. Ergo, either it's counting actual age (so she's already in the clear) or it's counting biological age (so she's in the clear once she joins the Hunters.) Joining the Hunters thus allowed her to dodge both possibilities instead of just one of them.
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** If I remember correctly, at one point in the Heros of Olympus, a Titan mentions "the twins mother" and says the nicer ones always take longer to come back, and most of the Titanesses were portrayed as nice or wanting to stay uninvolved in Riordan's Greek Mythology book.
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** It's explicitly mentioned that godly DNA does not work the same way human DNA does, so, unless you share the same godly parent, no other biological relation counts. Silena and Beckendorf were actually used as the example to explain this in the fifth book.
** They are not remotely half-siblings. They don't share any biological parents.

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** "The Trials of Apollo" also has Apollo mention that one of his sons has two dads.

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** "The Trials of Apollo" also has Apollo mention that one of his sons children has two dads.



** In general, it seems that pregnancies amongst goddesses last as long as the goddesses want them to. Apollo, for example, barely understands the pregnancy concept at all in his series.

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*** They seem to have gotten that tidbit from the fact that Sally was apparently only pregnant with Percy for three months. So, even if that fact means anything (which I wouldn't automatically assume it does - it could easily just be a case of WritersCannotDoMath), it's irrelevant to this conversation because it's referring to mortal pregnancies with demigods, not goddess pregnancies.
** In general, it seems that pregnancies amongst goddesses last as long as the goddesses want them to. Apollo, for example, barely understands the pregnancy concept at all in his series.series.
** This is the same series where Athena forms children purely from brainpower and then births them from her head. Of course the goddesses can magically have multiple children at once.
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** Also, RuleOfCool. Even if it's not necessarily accurate to the myths, you can't write a series about the children of the gods and ''not'' give each demigod a cool, unique power.
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* Why did Zeus pick ''Tantalus'' of all his sons when he started doubting Chiron? This is the guy who served up his own ''kid'' for a stew, and whom Zeus and the others unanimously , justly and personally punished brutally for it. To that extent, how come he and Dionysus are all chummy? As the god who chews out demigods for being jerks towards others, you would think he would detest one prime example where it really was the demigod at fault.

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* Why did Zeus pick ''Tantalus'' of all his sons when he started doubting Chiron? This is the guy who served up his own ''kid'' for a stew, and whom Zeus and the others unanimously , unanimously, justly and personally punished brutally for it. To that extent, how come he and Dionysus are all chummy? As the god who chews out demigods for being jerks towards others, you would think he would detest one prime example where it really was the demigod at fault.



** It's implied in the Last Olympian that the titans are heavily weakened until Kronos regains his form.

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** They did, actually - it's mentioned briefly by Grover. That's part of why the Furies, etc went after Thalia, and she had to make her stand. And as ''The Trials of Apollo'' shows, even Stygian oaths are breakable, there are just very severe (but not entirely fully-defined punishments.

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** They did, actually - it's mentioned briefly by Grover. That's part of why the Furies, etc went after Thalia, and she had to make her stand. And as ''The Trials of Apollo'' shows, even Stygian oaths are breakable, there are just very severe (but not entirely fully-defined fully-defined) punishments.



** Hard to see that happening, given how broken up he was afterwards. Possibly the insanity got worse over time, and when Luke was a kid, it was only occasional flashbacks and episodes, and it got worse over time, especially when she had no one else around.

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** Hard to see that happening, given how broken up he was afterwards. Possibly the insanity got worse over time, and when Luke was a kid, it was only occasional flashbacks and episodes, and it got worse over time, especially when she had no one else around.around to help her focus on the present moment.



** Godly relationships beyond immediate family are seldom touched on. He's also Annabeth's first cousin once removed and both Apollo ''and'' Meg's first cousin - if you spend really any time thinking about godly family relationships, you're gonna need BrainBleach.

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** Godly relationships beyond immediate family are seldom touched on. He's also Annabeth's the first cousin once removed of both Luke and Annabeth, and both Apollo ''and'' Meg's first cousin - if you spend really any time thinking about godly family relationships, you're gonna need BrainBleach.



** Bear in mind it's also implied gods have some measure of foresight (like how it's implied Hermes knew Luke would go evil). So all of the Seven may well have been granted those particular powers for a reason. Plus, we don't know that some of the ancient demigods ''didn't'' have other powers, which the myths elided/glossed over/just plain were forgotten about over the millennia.

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** Bear in mind it's also implied gods have some measure of foresight (like how it's implied Hermes knew Luke would go evil). So all of the Seven may well have been granted those particular powers for a reason. Plus, we don't know that some of the ancient demigods ''didn't'' have other powers, which the myths elided/glossed over/just plain were forgotten about over the millennia. For example, Theseus may well have had Percy's ability to sail ships just by thinking about them (which would explain why he forgot to switch the sail from black to white, come to think of it), but that's not the kind of detail that is going to wow audiences, so most bards would leave that out when retelling the story. Hence, it never gets written down centuries later and so modern-day folks don't know about it.
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** ''Aru Shah'' (which may or may not be canon to the setting) also shows people in the Hindu afterlife's waiting room making the sign of the cross or crawling on their bellies, implying that the afterlife appears to be their own religion's version of it rather than the one the protagonists see.

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** ''Aru Shah'' (which may or may not be canon to the setting) also shows people in the Hindu afterlife's waiting room making the sign of the cross or crawling on their bellies, implying that the afterlife appears to be them as their own religion's version of it rather than the one the protagonists see.
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** ''Aru Shah'' (which may or may not be canon to the setting) also shows people in the Hindu afterlife's waiting room making the sign of the cross or crawling on their bellies, implying that the afterlife appears to be their own religion's version of it rather than the one the protagonists see.

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** Remember how many Godly kids there would have been running around left right and center? And not just major Gods, minor Gods could have given their half-blood offspring powers as well. There was likely a limit placed on handing out powers back then, so half of Greece wouldn't be burnt to the ground. Plus, if the Gods did get to choose to give their children powers, one of the first that come to mind for most people - when thinking of powers - is super strength, (and when Zeus punishes Gods by turning them human they are commonly shown in mythology to retain super strength) human-ish, but still Godly enough to give demigods an edge. If gods aren't paying attention to what powers their offspring get, that's most likely when the demigods will have powers based off of the Gods' normal powers.

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** Remember how many Godly kids there would have been running around left right and center? And not just major Gods, minor Gods could have given their half-blood offspring powers as well. There was likely a limit placed on handing out powers back then, so half of Greece wouldn't be burnt to the ground. Plus, if the Gods did get to choose to give their children powers, one of the first that come to mind for most people - when thinking of powers - is super strength, (and when Zeus punishes Gods by turning them human they are commonly shown in mythology to retain super strength) human-ish, but still Godly enough to give demigods an edge. Heracles/Hercules in particular was renown for his SuperStrength. If gods aren't paying attention to what powers their offspring get, that's most likely when the demigods will have powers based off of the Gods' normal powers.
** Bear in mind it's also implied gods have some measure of foresight (like how it's implied Hermes knew Luke would go evil). So all of the Seven may well have been granted those particular powers for a reason. Plus, we don't know that some of the ancient demigods ''didn't'' have other powers, which the myths elided/glossed over/just plain were forgotten about over the millennia.
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**Remember how many Godly kids there would have been running around left right and center? And not just major Gods, minor Gods could have given their half-blood offspring powers as well. There was likely a limit placed on handing out powers back then, so half of Greece wouldn't be burnt to the ground. Plus, if the Gods did get to choose to give their children powers, one of the first that come to mind for most people - when thinking of powers - is super strength, (and when Zeus punishes Gods by turning them human they are commonly shown in mythology to retain super strength) human-ish, but still Godly enough to give demigods an edge. If gods aren't paying attention to what powers their offspring get, that's most likely when the demigods will have powers based off of the Gods' normal powers.
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***As for this^ I recall it being stated by either Amos or Bast in ''The Kane Chronicles'' that they stay out of Manhattan (and primarily in Brooklyn) because "they have their own gods over there". Plus Kronos' attack on Manhattan in "The Last Olympian" was primarily focussed on Manhattan, with borders. And there have been Percy Jackson and ''Kane Chronicles'' crossovers, as well as crossovers with the Magnus Chase series. So my best guess is that a lot of ancient mythology gods congregated to where western civilization was the strongest (USA/North America/New York) and wordlessly split up the area (Norse, Greek/Roman) along with trying to stay out of each other's way.
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**I mean, if we're going by that logic, Percy is Annabeth's mom's cousin and basically all of the demigods are related. This is Greek mythology we're talking about. There's no room for squeamishness about or dwelling on the implications of incest.

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** Well, first, remember that the explosions were magical Greek fire, not ordinary explosions. Second, celestial bronze can kill a monster (or to be more precise, send them back into the Underworld) semi-permanently. Sure, Kronos got bonked in the head with a hairbrush, but there's no way every non-magical material would phase through Greek monsters or they'd all sink into the concrete and asphalt of Manhattan. For the shotgun scene in question, it's not the shotgun that kills the monster, it just pushes the monster towards a demigod weapon, it is being pierced by that weapon which actually destroys it.

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** Well, first, remember a shotgun blast still packs more force than any mortal can put into a sword swing. And of course an explosion would hurt. An explosion isn't a weapon- it's a massive expulsion of heat, energy and pressure. An explosion which is quite a bit higher on the scale of lethality than a sword, magical or not. As for the hairbrush, it probably didn't really hurt him so mush as shock him and its worth noting he was in a human body at the time anyway. Higher ranked monsters could probably shrug off human weaponry for the most part, though, which is the reason half-bloods carry it. Besides, it's the only weapon we see that can hurt the gods.
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** The SequelSeries actually has a specially made shotgun that fires
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** Celestial
bronze can kill a monster (or to be more precise, send them back into the Underworld) semi-permanently. Sure, Kronos got bonked in the head with a hairbrush, but there's no way every non-magical material would phase through Greek monsters or they'd all sink into the concrete and asphalt of Manhattan. Manhattan.
** Also, in The Titan's Curse, Percy deflected bullets from the skeletons' sidearms with Riptide. Monsters can probably do the same. The guy Percy's mother shot was probably just caught by surprise. Kronos was only just into his mortal body, so when Rachel threw the brush, it unsteadied him. Furthermore, Celestial bronze is implied to make sharper and stronger swords than mortal steel - Percy frequently slashes through rock and metal without it doing it the slightest bit of harm.
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For the shotgun scene in question is question, it's not the shotgun that kills the monster, it just pushes the monster towards a demigod weapon, it is being pierced by that weapon which actually destroys it.
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** Percy’s fatal flaw is said to be personal loyalty, and fatal flaws are said to trace back to one’s godly parent. In mythology, Poseidon torments Odysseus because of what he did to Polyphemus, who is Poseidon’s son; in the second book, Percy even alludes to this when he tells Polyphemus that Poseidon isn’t going to take sides between two of his own children. That would support the notion that “You’re my favorite offspring!” is something he could say to more than one of his children to avoid alienating any of the others, and therefore isn’t really as meaningful as it would seem.
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** Also, if memory serves, all Zoe said at the time was "Beware!", or something of that sort. It was Percy who assumed she was referring to Atlas being able to retaliate in full force when provoked; Zoe herself might've known that rule wasn't a factor to begin with, and her warning was meant as a generic "Atlas is very strong, so be on your guard once he has you in his sights."
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** It's also not as if Persephone owes anything to them in that moment that would make her feel obligated to conjure another pearl. All she wants is for the bolt to be returned to Zeus, which any three of the heroes can accomplish even if a fourth has to stay behind. She's clearly not upset at the prospect of Grover remaining there, in particular.
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* In this series, apparently being a half-blood grants you powers that are relevant to your divine parent -- Thalia can control lightning, Jason can fly, Percy is basically Super-Aquaman... However, the heroes of the original myths never seem to display abilities this exemplary. The closest instance I can think of is Heracles, whose biggest divine inheritance was super-strength. Even if the gods do decide which movesets their children can receive, wouldn't they have been more generous with them in ancient times? Those were the days when people actually believed in gods, monsters, and half-bloods living among them, so there wouldn't have been as much need to be subtle.
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