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[[folder: Giving your names to a government agent? This won't backfire in any way later!]]* Why do EZIC think it's a good idea to give the names of their revolutionaries to an officer of the Arstotzkan government? It seems a bit stupid to just hope the inspector sympathises with their cause and is willing to betray his country to help them out. I suppose they're giving him money, which would help ''if they told him about it before asking him to break the law''. That's not how bribery works. Hell, if they just bothered to get proper documentation, it wouldn't even be necessary to have to ask an immigrations officer to illegally let them through.[[WhatAnIdiot These guys are the worst conspirators ever.]]

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Why do EZIC think it's a good idea to give the names of their revolutionaries to an officer of the Arstotzkan government? It seems a bit stupid to just hope the inspector sympathises with their cause and is willing to betray his country to help them out. I suppose they're giving him money, which would help ''if they told him about it before asking him to break the law''. That's not how bribery works. Hell, if they just bothered to get proper documentation, it wouldn't even be necessary to have to ask an immigrations officer to illegally let them through.[[WhatAnIdiot These guys are the worst conspirators ever.]]

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* Why do EZIC think it's a good idea to give the names of their revolutionaries to an officer of the Arstotzkan government? It seems a bit stupid to just hope the inspector sympathises with their cause and is willing to betray his country to help them out. I suppose they're giving him money, which would help ''if they told him about it before asking him to break the law''. That's not how bribery works. Hell, if they just bothered to get proper documentation, it wouldn't even be necessary to have to ask an immigrations officer to illegally let them through.[[WhatAnIdiot These guys are the worst conspirators ever.]]

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* [[folder: Giving your names to a government agent? This won't backfire in any way later!]]* Why do EZIC think it's a good idea to give the names of their revolutionaries to an officer of the Arstotzkan government? It seems a bit stupid to just hope the inspector sympathises with their cause and is willing to betray his country to help them out. I suppose they're giving him money, which would help ''if they told him about it before asking him to break the law''. That's not how bribery works. Hell, if they just bothered to get proper documentation, it wouldn't even be necessary to have to ask an immigrations officer to illegally let them through.[[WhatAnIdiot These guys are the worst conspirators ever.]]



** In the Soviet Union, there existed a permit system called "Propiska" which kept track of people's movements and applications for residency. Supporters of Propiska said that it allowed them to track criminals and suspects more easily and prevented overcrowding of lower-class dwellings while opponents said that Propiska violated freedom of movement and promoted segregation by excluding people from certain areas. Perhaps the reason why [=EZIC=] agents don't bring Entry Permits is because they don't want to be identified and tracked down by the Ministry of Information.

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** In the Soviet Union, there existed a permit system called "Propiska" which kept track of people's movements and applications for residency. Supporters of Propiska said that it allowed them to track criminals and suspects more easily and prevented overcrowding of lower-class dwellings while opponents said that Propiska violated freedom of movement and promoted segregation by excluding people from certain areas. Perhaps the reason why [=EZIC=] agents don't bring Entry Permits is because they don't want to be identified and tracked down by the Ministry of Information.[[/folder]]
[[folder: Why even recruit the inspector in the first place?]]



** This is the case, developer did state that he initially planned to have citations come after a week, but found that the imminent citation worked better, helping the player to recognize when they were slipping up.

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** This is the case, developer did state that he initially planned to have citations come after a week, but found that the imminent citation worked better, helping the player to recognize when they were slipping up.[[/folder]]
[[folder: No detaining EZIC members? ...Why not?]]



** As for those "minor infractions", you're arresting people for forged documents, not documents with incorrect information. It's not as big a deal as terrorism, but it's not exactly a small deal, either.

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** As for those "minor infractions", you're arresting people for forged documents, not documents with incorrect information. It's not as big a deal as terrorism, but it's not exactly a small deal, either.[[/folder]]
[[folder: Lotta formality over a blatant fake.]]



** Because that stamp of denial tells Jorji this (or at least, this is what I like to think is the meaning): "You're wasting my time with this piece of shit fake passport, holding up the line, costing me time and money to deal with your bullshit. FUCK. OFF."

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** Because that stamp of denial tells Jorji this (or at least, this is what I like to think is the meaning): "You're wasting my time with this piece of shit fake passport, holding up the line, costing me time and money to deal with your bullshit. FUCK. OFF.""[[/folder]]
[[folder: Just "forget" your passport, genius.]]



** He wants proof that he cannot enter, if he gets a slip saying he didn't have papers then his boss will just tell him to get them. If he shows up with papers, and then they are stamped as wrong he has proof he can't enter with the papers he has and will get out of his contract.

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** He wants proof that he cannot enter, if he gets a slip saying he didn't have papers then his boss will just tell him to get them. If he shows up with papers, and then they are stamped as wrong he has proof he can't enter with the papers he has and will get out of his contract.[[/folder]]
[[folder: Trained soldiers are no match for a mighty...border inspector?]]



** Sergiu, at least, mentions that he fought in the war, and his aim is "not like before", suggesting he may be a ShellShockedVeteran. You don't get to talk to the other guards, but it may be the same case for them.

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** Sergiu, at least, mentions that he fought in the war, and his aim is "not like before", suggesting he may be a ShellShockedVeteran. You don't get to talk to the other guards, but it may be the same case for them.[[/folder]]
[[folder: Transit through Arstotzka...''why?'']]



** Arstotzka has large coastal area which means a number of docks for travel by boat which can a lot faster then travel by land even if it is on the same continent.

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** Arstotzka has large coastal area which means a number of docks for travel by boat which can a lot faster then travel by land even if it is on the same continent.[[/folder]]
[[folder: Arstozkan Credit, best currency in the world! (?)]]



** If you're traveling to a new country, it's generally a good idea to get that country's currency to use before you get there, regardless of whether or not you plan on bribing someone. As far as the coinage, why would someone bribe you with coins? Just because you never see Arstotzkan coins doesn't mean they don't exist.
* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire. Or maybe they're trying to present a better self-image of openness. (High Walls + Barbed Wire = Oppression)

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** If you're traveling to a new country, it's generally a good idea to get that country's currency to use before you get there, regardless of whether or not you plan on bribing someone. As far as the coinage, why would someone bribe you with coins? Just because you never see Arstotzkan coins doesn't mean they don't exist.
exist.[[/folder]]
[[folder: Buil...er, ''raise'' the wall and make Kolechia pay for it!]]
* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire. Or maybe they're trying to present a better self-image of openness. (High Walls + Barbed Wire = Oppression)Oppression)[[/folder]]
[[folder: Kolechian border control as the plot demands?]]



** Alternatively the immigrating Kolechians are either in extremely good standing with the Kolchian Government (and possibly spies, given what Arstotzka has been doing to them) or their permits are forgeries. Really really good forgeries (which is possible, given that Jorji will have one at some point).

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** Alternatively the immigrating Kolechians are either in extremely good standing with the Kolchian Government (and possibly spies, given what Arstotzka has been doing to them) or their permits are forgeries. Really really good forgeries (which is possible, given that Jorji will have one at some point). [[/folder]]
[[folder: A glorious Inspector of Arstotzka has no need for trivial things like "food" and "heat".]]



** Every member of the family has a different threshold of suffering they can take before getting sick and eventually dying. The son, for example, will get sick after only a single day of hunger, while the uncle can go for a full three days. It is possible that the inspector is simply the most resilient of his family.

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** Every member of the family has a different threshold of suffering they can take before getting sick and eventually dying. The son, for example, will get sick after only a single day of hunger, while the uncle can go for a full three days. It is possible that the inspector is simply the most resilient of his family.[[/folder]]
[[folder: Those Obristanis sure have some harsh immigration laws...]]



** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, it's possible that he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan. Either that or every person wanting to enter Obristan has to have a Passport with no exceptions whatsoever, ''even if the entrant is 10 years or less''.

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** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, it's possible that he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan. Either that or every person wanting to enter Obristan has to have a Passport with no exceptions whatsoever, ''even if the entrant is 10 years or less''.[[/folder]]
[[folder: "They hadn't started issuing ID supplements then, genius."]]



** Crappy forgeries, of course. Whoever made it didn't think it through.

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** Crappy forgeries, of course. Whoever made it didn't think it through.[[/folder]]
[[folder: Lazy journalists]]



** It doesnt matter wether they get i or not, they get a good Story. So they probably just dont care.

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** It doesnt matter wether they get i or not, they get a good Story. So they probably just dont care.[[/folder]]
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*** This could be the reason. But they know (assuming the first journalist was denied) that the guard is not letting someone get in without proper papers, especially when they make a point of not having proper papers. Work harder to get the papers, get good forgeries, lie about your purpose when you apply for papers, whatever.. But trying to get in through a press pass is idiocy on the second attempt

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*** This could be the reason. But they know (assuming the first journalist was denied) that the guard is not letting someone get in without proper papers, especially when they make a point of not having proper papers. Work harder to get the papers, get good forgeries, lie about your purpose when you apply for papers, whatever.. But trying to get in through a press pass is idiocy on the second attemptattempt
** It doesnt matter wether they get i or not, they get a good Story. So they probably just dont care.
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** Arstotzka has large coastal area which means a number of docks for travel by boat which can a lot faster then travel by land.

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** Arstotzka has large coastal area which means a number of docks for travel by boat which can a lot faster then travel by land.land even if it is on the same continent.
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** Arstotzka has large coastal area which means a number of docks for travel by boat which can a lot faster then travel by land.
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** It's also possible that the map we see isn't of the whole world, but only a continent, or part of a continent.
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** Sergiu, at least, mentions that he fought in the war, and his aim is "not like before", suggesting he may be a ShellShockedVeteran. You don't get to talk to the other guards, but it may be the same case for them.
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** Every member of the family has a different threshold of suffering they can take before getting sick and eventually dying. The son, for example, will get sick after only a single day of hunger, while the uncle can go for a full three days. It is possible that the inspector is simply the most resilient of his family.
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** If you're traveling to a new country, it's generally a good idea to get that country's currency to use before you get there, regardless of whether or not you plan on bribing someone. As far as the coinage, why would someone bribe you with coins? Just because you never see Arstotzkan coins doesn't mean they don't exist.
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** Credits are only used for bribes, if I remember correctly. They probably exchanged their currency for Arstotzkan credits well before they ever make it to you, to be 'sure' they can get through.
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** Alternatively the immigrating Kolechians are either in extremely good standing with the Kolchian Government (and possibly spies, given what Arstotzka has been doing to them) or their permits are forgeries. Really really good forgeries (which is possible, given that Jorji will have one at some point).
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** GameplayAndStorySegregation. You could imagine it that in real life the inspector's actions are reviewd weekly and any discrepancies are then deducted from his paycheck. However, this would be incredibly frustrating in the game, so it's abstracted that you get the citations immediately.

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** GameplayAndStorySegregation. You could imagine it that in real life the inspector's actions are reviewd reviewed weekly and any discrepancies are then deducted from his paycheck. However, this would be incredibly frustrating in the game, so it's abstracted that you get the citations immediately.
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** Someone in the Kolechian system might not like that she'll end up with an Arstotzkan soldier, if they have such intel. It could also be that there aren't enough women in Kolechia, and someone thinks that a young, presumably pretty, woman shouldn't leave the country.
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** They are foreign journalists trying to enter a faux-Soviet bloc nation. Perhaps they tried getting legit documents and were denied.

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** They are foreign journalists trying to enter a faux-Soviet bloc nation. Perhaps they tried getting legit documents and were denied.denied.
*** This could be the reason. But they know (assuming the first journalist was denied) that the guard is not letting someone get in without proper papers, especially when they make a point of not having proper papers. Work harder to get the papers, get good forgeries, lie about your purpose when you apply for papers, whatever.. But trying to get in through a press pass is idiocy on the second attempt
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* Why don't the journalists go through the trouble of getting the proper documents? Especially the second who tries to enter should know by that point that he or she will be denied.

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* Why don't the journalists go through the trouble of getting the proper documents? Especially the second who tries to enter should know by that point that he or she will be denied.
** They are foreign journalists trying to enter a faux-Soviet bloc nation. Perhaps they tried getting legit documents and were
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** Crappy forgeries, of course. Whoever made it didn't think it through.

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** Crappy forgeries, of course. Whoever made it didn't think it through.through.
* Why don't the journalists go through the trouble of getting the proper documents? Especially the second who tries to enter should know by that point that he or she will be denied.
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* Why do expired documents show up which are dated to before documents of that type were even issued? For example, ID supplements were not a part of the customs process until December 5th, 1982, but you'll run into ID supplements that expired on November 28th 1982 and the like.

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* Why do expired documents show up which are dated to before documents of that type were even issued? For example, ID supplements were not a part of the customs process until December 5th, 1982, but you'll run into ID supplements that expired on November 28th 1982 and the like.like.
** Crappy forgeries, of course. Whoever made it didn't think it through.
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** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, it's possible that he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan. Either that or every person wanting to enter Obristan has to have a Passport with no exceptions whatsoever, ''even if the entrant is 10 years or less''.

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** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, it's possible that he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan. Either that or every person wanting to enter Obristan has to have a Passport with no exceptions whatsoever, ''even if the entrant is 10 years or less''.less''.
* Why do expired documents show up which are dated to before documents of that type were even issued? For example, ID supplements were not a part of the customs process until December 5th, 1982, but you'll run into ID supplements that expired on November 28th 1982 and the like.
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** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, it's possible that he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan. Either that or every person wanting to enter Obristan has to have a Passport without exception, ''even if the entrant is 10 years or less''.

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** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, it's possible that he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan. Either that or every person wanting to enter Obristan has to have a Passport without exception, with no exceptions whatsoever, ''even if the entrant is 10 years or less''.
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** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan.

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** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, it's possible that he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan.Obristan. Either that or every person wanting to enter Obristan has to have a Passport without exception, ''even if the entrant is 10 years or less''.

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** In the Soviet Union, there existed a permit system called "Propiska" which kept track of people's movements and applications for residency. Supporters of Propiska said that it allowed them to track criminals and suspects more easily and prevented overcrowding of lower-class dwellings while opponents said that Propiska violated freedom of movement and promoted segregation by excluding people from certain areas. Perhaps the reason why [=EZIC=] agents don't bring Entry Permits is because they don't want to be identified and tracked down by the Ministry of Information.


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* The Inspector's family is five members (himself, wife, son, mother-in-law, and uncle) with four Passports. When the niece is adopted, the size increases to six and there are five Passports. The reason why there are only five Passports is because the son is too young to bear a Passport. Yet, you need ''SIX Passports'' for everyone to escape to Obristan. ''Why does Obristan Immigration require underage minors to carry Passports???''

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* The Inspector's family is five members (himself, wife, son, mother-in-law, and uncle) with four Passports. When the niece is adopted, the size increases to six and there are five Passports. The reason why there are only five Passports is because the son is too young to bear a Passport. Yet, you need ''SIX Passports'' for everyone to escape to Obristan. ''Why does Obristan Immigration require underage minors to carry Passports???''Passports???''
** Obristan probably has lower standards for legal age. If you consider this with the fact that the son recently had his birthday, he barely reached the required age for carrying a passport in Obristan.
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* The Inspector's family is five members (himself, wife, son, mother-in-law, and uncle) with four Passports. When the niece is adopted, the size increases to six. The reason why there are only four Passports is because the son and niece are too young to bear Passports. Yet, you need ''SIX Passports'' for everyone to escape to Obristan. ''Why does Obristan Immigration require underage minors to carry Passports???''

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* The Inspector's family is five members (himself, wife, son, mother-in-law, and uncle) with four Passports. When the niece is adopted, the size increases to six. six and there are five Passports. The reason why there are only four five Passports is because the son and niece are is too young to bear Passports.a Passport. Yet, you need ''SIX Passports'' for everyone to escape to Obristan. ''Why does Obristan Immigration require underage minors to carry Passports???''
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* When the Inspector tries to save money by not paying for food and heat, only his family will suffer. How is he unaffected by the lack of food and heat?

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* When the Inspector tries to save money by not paying for food and heat, only his family will suffer. How is he unaffected by the lack of food and heat?heat?
* The Inspector's family is five members (himself, wife, son, mother-in-law, and uncle) with four Passports. When the niece is adopted, the size increases to six. The reason why there are only four Passports is because the son and niece are too young to bear Passports. Yet, you need ''SIX Passports'' for everyone to escape to Obristan. ''Why does Obristan Immigration require underage minors to carry Passports???''
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* Elisa's callous treatment by the Kolechian Government is hypocritical when you consider the fact that some of the generic entrants that you process are ''Kolechian Emigrants''. If they could get the necessary paperwork for leaving Kolechia, why couldn't Elisa get them as well? Is it just bad luck or some other messed-up reason?

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* Elisa's callous treatment by the Kolechian Government is hypocritical when you consider the fact that some of the generic entrants that you process are ''Kolechian Emigrants''. If they could get the necessary paperwork for leaving Kolechia, why couldn't Elisa get them as well? Is it just bad luck or some other messed-up reason?reason?
* When the Inspector tries to save money by not paying for food and heat, only his family will suffer. How is he unaffected by the lack of food and heat?
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* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire. Or maybe they're trying to present a better self-image of openness. (High Walls + Barbed Wire = Oppression)

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* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire. Or maybe they're trying to present a better self-image of openness. (High Walls + Barbed Wire = Oppression)Oppression)
* Elisa's callous treatment by the Kolechian Government is hypocritical when you consider the fact that some of the generic entrants that you process are ''Kolechian Emigrants''. If they could get the necessary paperwork for leaving Kolechia, why couldn't Elisa get them as well? Is it just bad luck or some other messed-up reason?
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* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire. Or maybe they're trying to present a better self-image of openness (Barbed Wire = Oppression).

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* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire. Or maybe they're trying to present a better self-image of openness (Barbed openness. (High Walls + Barbed Wire = Oppression).Oppression)
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* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire.

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* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire. Or maybe they're trying to present a better self-image of openness (Barbed Wire = Oppression).
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* The use of Arstotzkan Credits by foreigners raises some interesting questions. Are all the nations part of a Currency Union with Arstotzka as the strongest economy? Or are Credits the only valid currency when you're inside Arstotzka? On a side note, where's the coinage?

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* The use of Arstotzkan Credits by foreigners raises some interesting questions. Are all the nations part of a Currency Union with Arstotzka as the strongest economy? Or are Credits the only valid currency when you're inside Arstotzka? On a side note, where's the coinage?coinage?
* You'd think that the first time a terrorist jumps over the low wall that the Arstotzkan government would be sensible enough to raise it or at least add barbed wire to deter future attempts. But no. The corruption is so bad that they can't even afford to install barbed wire.

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