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* So, where ''is'' Adam? Eve just gets annoyed when Daniel asks but it seems like a reasonable question. Some versions of the story of the Garden Of Eden claim that Eve took the first bite of the Forbidden Fruit, so did Adam possibly get a lighter sentence and has already moved on to Heaven?
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* What exactly did Daniel do to deserve Purgatory? He seems like just a normal person, and his wife went to Heaven instead. He even asks Samael in the opening cutscene, only to receive a non-answer. It just seems odd that the games are so vague about such a pivotal plot point.
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** First off, Belial is half angel, half demon. Secondly, he calls himself the "Friend of Time", which means that he can travel through time. He says that he can do so in the Studio Level.



** Daniel didn't know that the generals would just respawn in Hell. His superious probably knew, but moving demons from Hell to Purgatory is described as a painfully slow procedure; in other words, killing the generals was a delaying tactic to buy Heaven's armies more time. As for the TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot absense of a BossRush... let's just say TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot.

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** Daniel didn't know that the generals would just respawn in Hell. His superious superior probably knew, but moving demons from Hell to Purgatory is described as a painfully slow procedure; in other words, killing the generals was a delaying tactic to buy Heaven's armies more time. As for the TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot absense absence of a BossRush... let's just say TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot.
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** Just because said demon never leaves, doesn't mean they're not getting a steady stream of people coming ''in.'' They picked it up from all the damned souls who ''would'' know about pop culture.
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*** So what happens if you commit suicide in hell?



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** They forgot that Painkiller is not SeriousSam.

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** They forgot that Painkiller is not SeriousSam.
VideoGame/SeriousSam.
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** Many of the gameplay elements ''are'' borrowed from other old-school shooters, making for an experience that is comparable to the FPS games of old.
*** As far as the speed goes, the main character moves slowly under normal circumstances. But if you utilize strafe jumping and bunnyhopping (the way you would in VideoGame/QuakeIIIArena), you can move at almost vehicular speeds.
*** Weapons have alternate fire modes, a la VideoGame/UnrealTournament.
*** Hidden secrets are tucked away in the maps, much like VideoGame/{{Doom}} and VideoGame/{{Quake}} 1 and 2.
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*** But they're relatively important parts of ACTUAL old-school shooters. One of the prime things that separates Quake Deathmatch from a modern shooter like CallOfDuty is its high speed, high mobility style. I could play Doom and Duke3D for ages- they had big, interesting levels to explore and secrets to uncover, but Painkiller was monotonous.

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*** But they're relatively important parts of ACTUAL old-school shooters. One of the prime things that separates Quake Deathmatch from a modern shooter like CallOfDuty ''VideoGame/CallOfDuty'' is its high speed, high mobility style. I could play Doom and Duke3D for ages- they had big, interesting levels to explore and secrets to uncover, but Painkiller was monotonous.
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*** Painkiller is far closer to Serious Sam than the truly old-school shooters, and with far more enemy types to boot.
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*** But they're relatively important parts of ACTUAL old-school shooters. One of the prime things that separates Quake Deathmatch from a modern shooter like CallOfDuty is its high speed, high mobility style. I could play Doom and Duke3D for ages- they had big, interesting levels to explore and secrets to uncover, but Painkiller was monotonous.
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** The fundamental gameplay elements are very old-school, however. You can carry more than two guns at a time, cycling through a whole arsenal. Health and other pick-ups like old-school games. And the actual combat - running, dodging, lots of circle-strafing and just unloading everything you've got on the enemies. The overall visceral experience you get "in the moment" is very old-school. Level design and character speed are relatively minor parts of the definition.
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*Why do people describe this as a return to old-school FPS gameplay? As far back as Wolfenstein 3D you had big, labyrinthine levels, key hunts, and most all, speed. Painkiller has simple levels, enemies that just spawn in waves, and a relatively low-speed character.
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** Daniel didn't know that the generals would just respawn in Hell. His superious probably knew, but moving demons from Hell to Purgatory is described as a painfully slow procedure; in other words, killing the generals was a delaying tactic to buy Heaven's armies more time. As for the TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot absense of a BossRush... let's just say TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot.
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* So, if demons who are killed in purgatory just revive back in Hell, then what's the point of Daniel killing the 4 generals anyway if they'll just come back in Hell? Were you supposed to meet them again in a Boss Rush before fighting Lucifer? Is Alastor the only actual "demon" among the 4 generals?
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** Perma-death for demons. Humans who die anywhere in the afterlife, purgatory or hell, get possessed by the demon who killed them.

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** They forgot that Painkiller is not SeriousSam.




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*** Game title comes from PCF Brainstorm, and later that weapon got ist name, but haveing character named just like game and some weapons sound ridiculous.
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* If you die in purgatory you go to hell. What happens if you die in hell? Back to purgatory? permanent death?

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