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** Just because you can discern that your Drift-partner likes a song doesn't necessarily mean that their preference makes any sense to your own tastes.
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** The Drift is based on memories and shared experiences. The closer your bond, the better you fight. Well, take a bunch of teenagers, house them together in a barracks, then put them through training from hell together. What have you got at the end? A squad of trained soldiers bonded by their shared experience who've all spent years together and made memories. Its probable by the end of the training program every pilot is drift compatible with every other pilot.
*** The original program didn't have this advantage because there was no time. They had to start with people who were drift-compatible and then train them to be pilots. The new program is going the other direction: taking people who show promise as pilot and then training them to be drift-compatible.
*** The original program didn't have this advantage because there was no time. They had to start with people who were drift-compatible and then train them to be pilots. The new program is going the other direction: taking people who show promise as pilot and then training them to be drift-compatible.
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** TransformationIsAFreeAction. It's a pretty standard NecessaryWeasel. If you really need an in-universe explanation, call it shock and surprise, since such a thing has never happened before. As for whether the swarmers would have been better used attacking the jaegers directly, it's doubtful they would have been more than an annoyance. The mega-kaiju, on the other hand, was basically immune to all the jaeger attacks, and got taken out by a completely unanticipated tactic.
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** TransformationIsAFreeAction. It's a pretty standard NecessaryWeasel.[[AcceptableBreaksFromReality Acceptable Break from Reality]]. If you really need an in-universe explanation, call it shock and surprise, since such a thing has never happened before. As for whether the swarmers would have been better used attacking the jaegers directly, it's doubtful they would have been more than an annoyance. The mega-kaiju, on the other hand, was basically immune to all the jaeger attacks, and got taken out by a completely unanticipated tactic.
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** TransformationIsAFreeAction. It's a pretty standard WeaselTrope. If you really need an in-universe explanation, call it shock and surprise, since such a thing has never happened before. As for whether the swarmers would have been better used attacking the jaegers directly, it's doubtful they would have been more than an annoyance. The mega-kaiju, on the other hand, was basically immune to all the jaeger attacks, and got taken out by a completely unanticipated tactic.
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** TransformationIsAFreeAction. It's a pretty standard WeaselTrope.NecessaryWeasel. If you really need an in-universe explanation, call it shock and surprise, since such a thing has never happened before. As for whether the swarmers would have been better used attacking the jaegers directly, it's doubtful they would have been more than an annoyance. The mega-kaiju, on the other hand, was basically immune to all the jaeger attacks, and got taken out by a completely unanticipated tactic.
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*Also about the Trololo song. When it first starts playing the co-pilot asks him about it. But due to the drift, the co-pilot should already know what he's thinking and the reason why he chose that song.
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** Or just a hasty "Send All" rather than picking and choosing. Probably there was a ton of text in the original transmission, but the garbling was such that the only part of the data-dump Gottlieb's recovery attempt could recover was the small portion of it that was in an image-file format instead of document, i.e. the appended map.
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** Or just a hasty "Send All" rather than picking and choosing. Probably there was a ton of text in the original transmission, but the garbling was such that the only part of the data-dump Gottlieb's recovery attempt could recover unpick from the snarl was the small portion of it that was in an image-file format instead of document, i.e. the appended map.
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** Or just a hasty "Send All" rather than picking and choosing. Probably there was a ton of text in the original transmission, but the garbling was such that the only part of the data-dump Gottlieb's recovery attempt could recover was the small portion of it that was in an image-file format instead of document, i.e. the appended map.
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** Also, they don't have as clear a view of what's happening as the film permits its audience to have. Possibly, so far as they could tell, the swarming robo-critters were ''destroying'' the kaiju via dismemberment, rather than reconstructing them as one massive Frankensteined monster. It's not as if the smaller drones had "We Work For Evil Newt" logos stamped on them: the Jaeger pilots might've thought they were some kind of fallback defense built by Japan in secret, or prototype drone tech that Shao had deployed as a last resort.
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** Certainly ''all'' the kaiju can't have been headed for Mt. Fuji, else the ones that attacked sites like California, Sydney, Anchorage or Lima swam thousands of miles in the wrong freaking direction. But it's plausible that a ''significant percentage'' of them did head in that direction, and the hologram only showed the ones that didn't get sidetracked.
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*** That isn't the point, the point is that the movie explicitly claims that ''all'' of the Kaiju were heading towards Mt Fuji, even the ones from the first Breach. This is impossible since, as mentioned above, the first set of Kaiju spread out from the Breach to attack many different locations. The only way this makes sense is if you treat it as a retcon and assume that every single Kaiju battle in the first movie actually happened along the way from the first Breach to Mt Fuji.
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** Director DeKnight did mention it was not his idea. Possible studio-input.
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***Of major note, it's not just any volcano, but a volcano rich in rare earth metals, which most are not. Also this could be just one possible win condition, simple military victory/trampling all resistance would also suffice no doubt.
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*** It's unlikely it was being used to build the drone cores officially, otherwise it wouldn't have been known to be abandoned. You could argue that maybe it was to increase production rates but that's a stretch.
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[[folder: Trololo...really?]]
* Of all humorous songs/memes they could have used to try and add some levity, what possessed them to use one that's almost entirely about saying that you just trolled someone? Especially at such a critical, dramatic moment in the film, with [[spoiler: Precursor-possessed Newton]] still at large and potentially in a position to ruin this last-ditch effort to save the world?
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* Of all humorous songs/memes they could have used to try and add some levity, what possessed them to use one that's almost entirely about saying that you just trolled someone? Especially at such a critical, dramatic moment in the film, with [[spoiler: Precursor-possessed Newton]] still at large and potentially in a position to ruin this last-ditch effort to save the world?
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*** Because it was also being used to build the drone cores. And, probably, in case Obsidian Fury needed repairs.
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** Another question is, why did it take the Kaiju so long to reach Japan? From the first movie we know that they are frightening fast swimmers. It took Leatherback and Otachi a couple of hours to swim from the Breach in the Challenger Deep to Hong Kong.
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** Another question is, The closest to an explanation is a passing mention by Gottlieb that they haven't been able to reach anybody. Which in itself is ridiculous, even if every piece of communications equipment in the Shatterdome was destroyed in the attack, surely somobody in Hong Kong would be able to lend a radio or a phone during those several hours of proparations. And speaking of that, why did it take the Kaiju so long to reach Japan? From the first movie we know that they are frightening fast swimmers. It took Leatherback and Otachi a couple of hours to swim from the Breach in the Challenger Deep to Hong Kong.
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[[folder: Which parts of the kaiju were put together]]
* The Mega-Kaiju's design looks a bit of a mess, given that its component parts are barely identifiable from the overall creature. The tails are clearly Shrikethorn's, and Raijin's head armor can be seen forming the MK's crests and breastplate, but what about the other parts? The front arms are shaped like Shrikethorn's, but discharge attacks like Raijin, and the two pairs of hind legs belong to Hakuja or Shrikethorn? And what happened to Raijin's head?
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* The Mega-Kaiju's design looks a bit of a mess, given that its component parts are barely identifiable from the overall creature. The tails are clearly Shrikethorn's, and Raijin's head armor can be seen forming the MK's crests and breastplate, but what about the other parts? The front arms are shaped like Shrikethorn's, but discharge attacks like Raijin, and the two pairs of hind legs belong to Hakuja or Shrikethorn? And what happened to Raijin's head?
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** If you recall the Kaiju drift scenes in the first film, we saw how a Kaiju is built. Their living tissue is stitched in place by machines like needle and thread. The mini-drones were like the Precursors' factories or a surgeons knife. They cut in very precise places with specially designed tools then reattached what they took off as soon as possible. Since the Kaiju are artificial lifeforms to begin with, it's likely part of their design to be taken apart and put back together (say, to replace a missing limb after an attack).
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*** Why couldn't Obsidian Fury simply destroy it as soon as it was completed?
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** Its the same piece of Kaiju brain he had at the beginning of the first movie, which he had his first drift with. Its even the very same prop, and you can see it looks pretty out of place in this movie, since it dropped the used future aesthetic.
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[[folder:Terraforming]]
* If Newt said in the first film that due to pollution "we practically terraformed the Earth for them", then why were they trying to "terraform" it AGAIN by reacting kaiju blood with Mount Fuji's earth metals?
** Simple: detonating the Ring of Fire would have exterminated most of the indigenous life forms, allowing the Precursors to easily colonize the planet.
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* Also, if the Kaiju's sole purpose was to act as living bombs, then why do they attack cities in the first place? Why didn't Trespasser, the first kaiju, simply seek out a volcano and jump in, triggering the reaction before humans could even invent Jaegers?
** According to Newt in the first movie, waves 1-4 of the kaiju were meant to soften up humanity's defenses (fail). Any kaiju above category 5 was meant to trigger the detonation. '''However''', it was also noted in the first movie that the breach was something of a squeeze point, and that it opened wider over time. Most likely, category 5 kaiju and above wouldn't have fit through when the breach first opened.
** The caveat here, of course, is that this movie states ''all'' previous kaiju were heading towards Mount Fuji, an obvious ret-con in order to quickly coordinate the resistance at the end.
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* If Newt said in the first film that due to pollution "we practically terraformed the Earth for them", then why were they trying to "terraform" it AGAIN by reacting kaiju blood with Mount Fuji's earth metals?
** Simple: detonating the Ring of Fire would have exterminated most of the indigenous life forms, allowing the Precursors to easily colonize the planet.
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[[folder:Living bombs]]
* Also, if the Kaiju's sole purpose was to act as living bombs, then why do they attack cities in the first place? Why didn't Trespasser, the first kaiju, simply seek out a volcano and jump in, triggering the reaction before humans could even invent Jaegers?
** According to Newt in the first movie, waves 1-4 of the kaiju were meant to soften up humanity's defenses (fail). Any kaiju above category 5 was meant to trigger the detonation. '''However''', it was also noted in the first movie that the breach was something of a squeeze point, and that it opened wider over time. Most likely, category 5 kaiju and above wouldn't have fit through when the breach first opened.
** The caveat here, of course, is that this movie states ''all'' previous kaiju were heading towards Mount Fuji, an obvious ret-con in order to quickly coordinate the resistance at the end.
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* How exactly was the Mega Kaiju formed? It's made clear that bisection and mutilation kills a Kaiju, so how exactly do Hakuja, Raijin and Shrikethorn survive being cut into pieces by tiny drones and stitched together into a single creature?
** Also, which parts of which kaiju were used to build the Mega Kaiju? The final result just looks like a much bigger Shrikethorn with Hakuja's tusks and parts of Raijin's head armor on its chest.
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[[folder: Newt's brain girlfriend]]
* How exactly does Newt have a whole and living Kaiju brain in his bedroom? Did he grow it himself? Is it the preserved brain of Mutavore from the first film, or perhaps that of Baby Otachi?
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* How exactly was the Mega Kaiju formed? It's made clear that bisection and mutilation kills a Kaiju, so how exactly do Hakuja, Raijin and Shrikethorn survive being cut into pieces by tiny drones and stitched together into a single creature?
** Also, which parts of which kaiju were used to build the Mega Kaiju? The final result just looks like a much bigger Shrikethorn with Hakuja's tusks and parts of Raijin's head armor on its chest.
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[[folder: Newt's brain girlfriend]]
* How exactly does Newt have a whole and living Kaiju brain in his bedroom? Did he grow it himself? Is it the preserved brain of Mutavore from the first film, or perhaps that of Baby Otachi?
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* The PPDC knew the Kaiju were going to attack Japan and specifically aim for Mount Fuji, yet when the film actually shows the Kaiju landing in Tokyo, the city is functioning as normal and hastily evacuated. Why weren't they warned earlier? Also the idea that one of the most heavily populated cities in the world could completely evacuate in the short time portrayed in the film is outlandish. How could they possibly have moved all the sick and elderly?
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*The PPDC knew the Kaiju were going to attack Japan and specifically aim for Mount Fuji, yet when the film actually shows the Kaiju landing in Tokyo, the city is functioning as normal and hastily evacuated. Why weren't they warned earlier? Also the idea that one of the most heavily populated cities in the world could completely evacuate in the short time portrayed in the film is outlandish. How could they possibly have moved all the sick and elderly?
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*The PPDC knew the Kaiju were going to attack Japan and specifically aim for Mount Fuji, yet when the film actually shows the Kaiju landing in Tokyo, the city is functioning as normal and hastily evacuated. Why weren't they warned earlier? Also the idea that one of the most heavily populated cities in the world could completely evacuate in the short time portrayed in the film is outlandish. How could they possibly have moved all the sick and elderly?
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