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10th Jan '16 2:53:37 PM kalliston
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* Why were the prostitutes at the Moulin Rouge called "Diamond Dogs"? I know it's supposed to be a reference to the song of the same name, but I read that in the past, such as the 19th Century the movie takes place in, calling someone a dog was considered a harsh insult. So in that case, wouldn't that sort of be [[SnarkBait giving the people who don't like prostitution a free pass to make fun of them]]? Zidler [[DidntThinkThisThrough didn't think that through]].

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* Why were the prostitutes at the Moulin Rouge called "Diamond Dogs"? I know it's supposed to be a reference to the song of the same name, but I read that in the past, such as the 19th Century the movie takes place in, calling someone a dog was considered a harsh insult. So in that case, wouldn't that sort of be [[SnarkBait giving the people who don't like prostitution a free pass to make fun of them]]? Zidler [[DidntThinkThisThrough didn't think that through]].through]].
** It's possible it was an AppropriatedAppellation -- calling people dogs, especially women, isn't such a terrific idea now (cf. "bitch" as an insult) or in David Bowie's day, but paired with the glamorous and beautiful associations of the word "diamond", it might have been an insult slung at the women of the Moulin Rouge that stuck, or a self-deprecating moniker referencing both the dance hall's glitzy aesthetic and the women's harsh way of life.
13th Oct '15 3:31:58 PM creativename24
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** Shouldn't Zidler have told the Duke about Satine's consumption? [[FridgeHorror Or was Zidler trying to indirectly murder him using Satine?]]
22nd Jul '15 7:11:03 PM Demetrios
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* Why were the prostitutes at the Moulin Rouge called "Diamond Dogs"? I know it's supposed to be a reference to the song of the same name, but I read that in the past, such as the 19th Century the movie takes place in, calling someone a dog was considered a harsh insult. So in that case, wouldn't that sort of be [[SnarkBait giving the people who don't like prostitution a free pass to make fun of them]]? Ziddler [[DidntThinkThisThrough didn't think that through]].

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* Why were the prostitutes at the Moulin Rouge called "Diamond Dogs"? I know it's supposed to be a reference to the song of the same name, but I read that in the past, such as the 19th Century the movie takes place in, calling someone a dog was considered a harsh insult. So in that case, wouldn't that sort of be [[SnarkBait giving the people who don't like prostitution a free pass to make fun of them]]? Ziddler Zidler [[DidntThinkThisThrough didn't think that through]].
21st Jul '15 1:20:37 PM Demetrios
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** ''Moulin Rouge!'' is not at all realistic. Aside from people randomly breaking into song (and singing stuff that wasn't yet written in 1900), it's quite often almost cartoonish. If one accepts that, Satine not infecting others is not at all a stretch.

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** ''Moulin Rouge!'' is not at all realistic. Aside from people randomly breaking into song (and singing stuff that wasn't yet written in 1900), it's quite often almost cartoonish. If one accepts that, Satine not infecting others is not at all a stretch.stretch.
* Why were the prostitutes at the Moulin Rouge called "Diamond Dogs"? I know it's supposed to be a reference to the song of the same name, but I read that in the past, such as the 19th Century the movie takes place in, calling someone a dog was considered a harsh insult. So in that case, wouldn't that sort of be [[SnarkBait giving the people who don't like prostitution a free pass to make fun of them]]? Ziddler [[DidntThinkThisThrough didn't think that through]].
22nd Nov '14 2:12:54 AM Aquila89
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** Moulin Rouge! is not at all realistic. Aside from people randomly breaking into song (and singing stuff that wasn't yet written in 1900), it's quite often almost cartoonish. If one accepts that, Satine not infecting others is not at all a stretch.

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** Moulin Rouge! ''Moulin Rouge!'' is not at all realistic. Aside from people randomly breaking into song (and singing stuff that wasn't yet written in 1900), it's quite often almost cartoonish. If one accepts that, Satine not infecting others is not at all a stretch.
22nd Nov '14 2:12:33 AM Aquila89
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* Shouldn't everyone in the film have died from consumption due to all their contact with Satine? She had the contagious kind.

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* Shouldn't everyone in the film have died from consumption due to all their contact with Satine? She had the contagious kind.kind.
** Moulin Rouge! is not at all realistic. Aside from people randomly breaking into song (and singing stuff that wasn't yet written in 1900), it's quite often almost cartoonish. If one accepts that, Satine not infecting others is not at all a stretch.
8th Aug '14 4:34:52 PM silentheartsong
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** My impression was that she was afraid Satine was jeopardizing matters with the Duke (thus the future of the Moulin Rouge, thus the income of everyone who worked there) by messing around with Christian on the side. So she likely figured if the truth were exposed, Satine would be forced to dump Christian and everything could get back on track. Also the subtext of the Tango de Roxanne scene and how the Argentinian acts toward Nini suggests she has been a heartbreaker or source of ruin for men in the past. She may also have been jealous of Satine, either for being the star of the club and the show or for getting to have a love with Christian she could never have. On a related note to this, see the theory about her and the Argentinian on the WMG page.

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** My impression was that she was afraid Satine was jeopardizing matters with the Duke (thus the future of the Moulin Rouge, thus the income of everyone who worked there) by messing around with Christian on the side. So she likely figured if the truth were exposed, Satine would be forced to dump Christian and everything could get back on track. Also the subtext of the Tango de Roxanne scene and how the Argentinian acts toward Nini suggests she has been a heartbreaker or source of ruin for men in the past. She may also have been jealous of Satine, either for being the star of the club and the show or for getting to have a love with Christian she could never have. On a related note to this, see the theory about her and the Argentinian on the WMG page.page.
* Shouldn't everyone in the film have died from consumption due to all their contact with Satine? She had the contagious kind.
9th Feb '14 4:43:08 AM Ingonyama
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** My impression was that she was afraid Satine was jeopardizing matters with the Duke (thus the future of the Moulin Rouge, thus the income of everyone who worked there) by messing around with Christian on the side. So she likely figured if the truth were exposed, Satine would be forced to dump Christian and everything could get back on track. Also the subtext of the Tango de Roxanne scene and how the Argentinian acts toward Nini suggests she has been a heartbreaker or source of ruin for men in the past. She may also have been jealous of Satine, either for being the star of the club and the show or for getting to have a love with Christian she could never have.

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** My impression was that she was afraid Satine was jeopardizing matters with the Duke (thus the future of the Moulin Rouge, thus the income of everyone who worked there) by messing around with Christian on the side. So she likely figured if the truth were exposed, Satine would be forced to dump Christian and everything could get back on track. Also the subtext of the Tango de Roxanne scene and how the Argentinian acts toward Nini suggests she has been a heartbreaker or source of ruin for men in the past. She may also have been jealous of Satine, either for being the star of the club and the show or for getting to have a love with Christian she could never have. On a related note to this, see the theory about her and the Argentinian on the WMG page.
9th Feb '14 4:38:49 AM Ingonyama
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** A FreezeFrameBonus when the Duke shows Zidler the deed to the Moulin Rouge which he now owns shows him to be the "Duke of Monroth". This sounds very like a British name, and that is in fact the accent Richard Roxburgh uses.



* Why did Nini Legs-in-the-Air give Christian and Satine away? What did she have to gain?

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* Why did Nini Legs-in-the-Air give Christian and Satine away? What did she have to gain?gain?
** My impression was that she was afraid Satine was jeopardizing matters with the Duke (thus the future of the Moulin Rouge, thus the income of everyone who worked there) by messing around with Christian on the side. So she likely figured if the truth were exposed, Satine would be forced to dump Christian and everything could get back on track. Also the subtext of the Tango de Roxanne scene and how the Argentinian acts toward Nini suggests she has been a heartbreaker or source of ruin for men in the past. She may also have been jealous of Satine, either for being the star of the club and the show or for getting to have a love with Christian she could never have.
2nd Nov '13 3:11:48 PM Badgerwocky
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* The future of the Moulin Rouge hinges on the successful performance of its new show ''Spectacular Spectacular!'' Aside from all the behind-the-scenes issues with Satine, the Duke and Christian, there's a more obvious problem: why did they give the role of the male protagonist in such an important performance to a man who has repeatedly proven himself a risk to its successful completion due to his narcolepsy?

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* The future of the Moulin Rouge hinges on the successful performance of its new show ''Spectacular Spectacular!'' Aside from all the behind-the-scenes issues with Satine, the Duke and Christian, there's a more obvious problem: why did they give the role of the male protagonist in such an important performance to a man who has repeatedly proven himself a risk to its successful completion due to his narcolepsy?narcolepsy?
* Why did Nini Legs-in-the-Air give Christian and Satine away? What did she have to gain?
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