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** Drax probably left out the whole "hey, I'm gonna gas the whole planet!" part of his scheme to them. And it's not like Bond villains typically shy away from YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness.



* Drax probably left out the whole "hey, I'm gonna gas the whole planet!" part of his scheme to them. And it's not like Bond villains typically shy away from YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness.

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* Drax probably left out the whole "hey, I'm gonna gas the whole planet!" part of his scheme to them. And it's not like Bond villains typically shy away from YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness.
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* Drax probably left out the whole "hey, I'm gonna gas the whole planet!" part of his scheme to them. And it's not like Bond villains typically shy away from YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness.
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** It's a lot more fun living out your god complex from a space station orbiting the planet with everyone down below looking up at you every time they look into the sky than in a cave somewhere.
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* Is Jaws supposed to be a good guy just because he found a woman and decided to turn against his master only when he realized it was in his own self-interest? I mean, this is a guy who was morally ok with biting a woman to death just a few days earlier. Clearly not a decent human being.

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* Is Jaws supposed to be a good guy just because he found a woman and decided to turn against his master only when he realized it was in his own self-interest? I mean, this is a guy who was morally ok with biting a woman to death just a few days earlier. Clearly not a decent human being.being.
** He was a good guy when he decided to help James Bond save his girlfriend and the rest of the world. It's called a HeelFaceTurn- he doesn't ''have'' to be a decent human being, but that doesn't mean he isn't doing the right thing.
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** As for the possibility that the space station's size would be noticed from the ground as unusually large and bright, its important to remember that angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the further away something is from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. For another example of this phenomenon, consider why the sun and the moon look about the same size in the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[labelnote:Answer]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away than the moon, of course.[[/labelnote]]

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** As for the possibility that the space station's size would be noticed from the ground as unusually large and bright, its important to remember that angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the further away something is from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. For another example of this phenomenon, consider why the sun and the moon look about the same size in the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[labelnote:Answer]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away than the moon, of course.[[/labelnote]][[/labelnote]]
* Is Jaws supposed to be a good guy just because he found a woman and decided to turn against his master only when he realized it was in his own self-interest? I mean, this is a guy who was morally ok with biting a woman to death just a few days earlier. Clearly not a decent human being.
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*** Why does rotation matter? The earth rotates near the equator at 1,000 mph, much faster than commercial jet craft, so airplanes must move along with the rotation of the earth or else nothing would be able to fly Eastwards over half the planet. Plus, they are in the atmosphere, which clearly rotates with the earth because the wind isn't flying past us at 1,000 mph.
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* In the book there's really no need for Drax to [[spoiler:develop the Moonraker and launch his nuclear warhead on London]] when he can just drive it there. M even [[LampshadeHanging lampahades]] this in the last chapter.

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** Because even an amateur, looking through a telescope, would quickly realize that the station was ''much'' too big to be an ordinary satellite, and would talk to ''someone'', even if that someone was just the local police, or something in the local paper: "Hey, everyone check out the cool new thing in orbit!"
*** You're forgetting that angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the further away something is from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. For another example of this phenomenon, ask yourself why the sun and the moon look about the same size in the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[labelnote:Answer]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away than the moon, of course.[[/labelnote]]

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** Because even an amateur, looking through a telescope, would quickly realize As for the possibility that the station was ''much'' too big to be an ordinary satellite, and space station's size would talk to ''someone'', even if that someone was just be noticed from the local police, or something in the local paper: "Hey, everyone check out the cool new thing in orbit!"
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ground as unusually large and bright, its important to remember that angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the further away something is from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. For another example of this phenomenon, ask yourself consider why the sun and the moon look about the same size in the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[labelnote:Answer]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away than the moon, of course.[[/labelnote]]
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*** As for 'why no lasers elsewhere in the series', we ''do'' see them. The laser Goldfinger uses to almost execute Bond. The miniature laser in Bond's watch that can cut steel. Lasers of various sizes and shapes, but much more powerful than real-life ones per unit size, are in multiple Bond movies. People just don't use laser rifles on the ground because bullets work just as well down here and are way cheaper.
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Apparent is reundant - its \'angular diameter\' or \'apparent size\', not both.


*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the further away something is from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. For another example of this phenomenon, ask yourself why the sun and the moon look about the same size in the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[labelnote:Answer]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away than the moon, of course.[[/labelnote]]

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*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the further away something is from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. For another example of this phenomenon, ask yourself why the sun and the moon look about the same size in the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[labelnote:Answer]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away than the moon, of course.[[/labelnote]]
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*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the further away something is from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. For another example of this phenomenon, ask yourself why the sun and the moon look about the same size in the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[note]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away than the moon, of course.[[/note]

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*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the further away something is from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. For another example of this phenomenon, ask yourself why the sun and the moon look about the same size in the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[note]]Because [[labelnote:Answer]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away than the moon, of course.[[/note][[/labelnote]]
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*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the higher up the thing is orbiting the smaller it will look, even if its actual size is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. The modern ISS, for example, orbits at only 230 miles of altitude. If Drax's station was in geosync that means it would be ''100 times further away''. Which means that unless it was ''more'' than 100x as big as the ISS it would still present a smaller apparent dot to an observer on the groundm not a larger one.

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*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the higher up the thing further away something is orbiting from you the smaller it will look, even if its actual size when viewed up close is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. The modern ISS, for example, orbits at only 230 miles For another example of altitude. If Drax's station was this phenomenon, ask yourself why the sun and the moon look about the same size in geosync that means it would be ''100 the sky when the sun has approximately 400 times the diameter of the moon. [[note]]Because the sun is also approximately 400 times further away''. Which means that unless it was ''more'' away than 100x as big as the ISS it would still present a smaller apparent dot to an observer on the groundm not a larger one.moon, of course.[[/note]
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*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the higher up the thing is orbiting the smaller it will look, even if its actual size is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. The modern ISS, for example, orbits at only 230 miles of altitude. If Drax's station was in geosync, that means its ''100 times further away'', which means that unless its ''more'' than 100x as big as the ISS it will present a smaller apparent dot to an observer on the ground, not a larger one.

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*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the higher up the thing is orbiting the smaller it will look, even if its actual size is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. The modern ISS, for example, orbits at only 230 miles of altitude. If Drax's station was in geosync, geosync that means its it would be ''100 times further away'', which away''. Which means that unless its it was ''more'' than 100x as big as the ISS it will would still present a smaller apparent dot to an observer on the ground, groundm not a larger one.
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** Because even an amateur, looking through a telescope, would quickly realize that the station was ''much'' too big to be an ordinary satellite, and would talk to ''someone'', even if that someone was just the local police, or something in the local paper: "Hey, everyone check out the cool new thing in orbit!"

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** Because even an amateur, looking through a telescope, would quickly realize that the station was ''much'' too big to be an ordinary satellite, and would talk to ''someone'', even if that someone was just the local police, or something in the local paper: "Hey, everyone check out the cool new thing in orbit!"orbit!"
*** You're forgetting that apparent angular diameter is directly proportional to the size of the object in question '''and''' inversely proportional to the distance between the object and the observer. Or, in plain English, the higher up the thing is orbiting the smaller it will look, even if its actual size is pretty huge. Since we're never told exactly at what altitude Drax's station is orbiting at, we can't make ''any'' assumptions about how it would look from the ground... or, for that matter, whether it would be visible to the naked eye at all. The modern ISS, for example, orbits at only 230 miles of altitude. If Drax's station was in geosync, that means its ''100 times further away'', which means that unless its ''more'' than 100x as big as the ISS it will present a smaller apparent dot to an observer on the ground, not a larger one.
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** You answered your own question. In order to spot something that size with the naked eye, you already have to know when and where to look. Even if somebody does happen to spot it by chance while out stargazing, and even if they are enough of an amateur astronomer that they could go 'Wait a minute, that's not on the right schedule to be the Skylab/Sputnik/etc.', why should they immediately leap to the conclusion its a supervillain's unknown orbital space lair? They'd just go 'Oh, it must be another classified spy satellite. I wonder if its ours, or the Russians'?'

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** You answered your own question. In order to spot something that size with the naked eye, you already have to know when and where to look. Even if somebody does happen to spot it by chance while out stargazing, and even if they are enough of an amateur astronomer that they could go 'Wait a minute, that's not on the right schedule to be the Skylab/Sputnik/etc.', why should they immediately leap to the conclusion its a supervillain's unknown orbital space lair? They'd just go 'Oh, it must be another classified spy satellite. I wonder if its ours, or the Russians'?'Russians'?'
** Because even an amateur, looking through a telescope, would quickly realize that the station was ''much'' too big to be an ordinary satellite, and would talk to ''someone'', even if that someone was just the local police, or something in the local paper: "Hey, everyone check out the cool new thing in orbit!"
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** You answered your own question. In order to spot something that size with the naked eye, you already have to when and where to look. Even if somebody does happen to spot it by chance while out stargazing, and even if they are enough of an amateur astronomer that they could go 'Wait a minute, that's not on the right schedule to be the Skylab/Sputnik/etc.', why should they immediately leap to the conclusion its a supervillain's unknown orbital space lair? They'd just go 'Oh, it must be another classified spy satellite. I wonder if its ours, or the Russians'?'

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** You answered your own question. In order to spot something that size with the naked eye, you already have to know when and where to look. Even if somebody does happen to spot it by chance while out stargazing, and even if they are enough of an amateur astronomer that they could go 'Wait a minute, that's not on the right schedule to be the Skylab/Sputnik/etc.', why should they immediately leap to the conclusion its a supervillain's unknown orbital space lair? They'd just go 'Oh, it must be another classified spy satellite. I wonder if its ours, or the Russians'?'
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* Okay, I'll buy that Drax has a sophisticated radar jamming system that can hide his space station, without anyone ''noticing'' that someone is jamming them. But what about people just plain ''seeing'' it? The modern ISS is much smaller than Drax's station, and is visible to the naked eye (it's the 3rd brightest object in the sky, after the sun and moon). Admittedly you have to know where and when to look, and it only looks like a really bright star, but it's there. Any commercial telescope can see the station for what it is. Even back in the 70's, there were thousands of dedicated amateur stargazers and astronomers constantly watching the sky, never mind NASA and the military. How could the station have possibly been built without being almost immediately noticed?

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* Okay, I'll buy that Drax has a sophisticated radar jamming system that can hide his space station, without anyone ''noticing'' that someone is jamming them. But what about people just plain ''seeing'' it? The modern ISS is much smaller than Drax's station, and is visible to the naked eye (it's the 3rd brightest object in the sky, after the sun and moon). Admittedly you have to know where and when to look, and it only looks like a really bright star, but it's there. Any commercial telescope can see the station for what it is. Even back in the 70's, there were thousands of dedicated amateur stargazers and astronomers constantly watching the sky, never mind NASA and the military. How could the station have possibly been built without being almost immediately noticed?noticed?
** You answered your own question. In order to spot something that size with the naked eye, you already have to when and where to look. Even if somebody does happen to spot it by chance while out stargazing, and even if they are enough of an amateur astronomer that they could go 'Wait a minute, that's not on the right schedule to be the Skylab/Sputnik/etc.', why should they immediately leap to the conclusion its a supervillain's unknown orbital space lair? They'd just go 'Oh, it must be another classified spy satellite. I wonder if its ours, or the Russians'?'
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**** If you're going to ''end human civilization'', do you ''care'' about your unpaid credit card bills? Drax can spend himself bankrupt ten times over if he wants to; its not like his creditors are ever going to collect, and once everybody but the Ark contingent is dead he has the entire wealth of the planet to loot.
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** Possibly any guards who didn't meet Drax's genetic standards would've been sterilized. They're spy-movie mooks; he could've insisted they get cyanide tooth-implants and then secretly thrown in a vasectomy while they were anesthetized.

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** Possibly any guards who didn't meet Drax's genetic standards would've been sterilized. They're spy-movie mooks; he could've insisted they get cyanide tooth-implants and then secretly thrown in a vasectomy while they were anesthetized.anesthetized.

* Okay, I'll buy that Drax has a sophisticated radar jamming system that can hide his space station, without anyone ''noticing'' that someone is jamming them. But what about people just plain ''seeing'' it? The modern ISS is much smaller than Drax's station, and is visible to the naked eye (it's the 3rd brightest object in the sky, after the sun and moon). Admittedly you have to know where and when to look, and it only looks like a really bright star, but it's there. Any commercial telescope can see the station for what it is. Even back in the 70's, there were thousands of dedicated amateur stargazers and astronomers constantly watching the sky, never mind NASA and the military. How could the station have possibly been built without being almost immediately noticed?
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* Drax's evil scheme could have been pulled off without the use of spaceships. Firstly, it would have been much cheaper to build his Ark underground, environmentally sealed, then to build a space station in orbit. Secondly, Drax could have used aircraft to deliver the toxin. Why? Because he runs an '''''aero'''''''space'' company, and he had a radar jamming system for his space station. And even if it couldn't be fitted on a plane, stealth wasn't a complete unknown back then. Putting stuff into space is insanely expensive, up to $10,000 to put ''one kilogram'' into orbit, which is why you didn't take your last holiday at Utopia Planetia, Mars. But I guess this was all discarded in favour of footage of space shuttles docking, undocking, and performing course corrections.

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* Drax's evil scheme could have been pulled off without the use of spaceships. Firstly, it would have been much cheaper to build his Ark underground, environmentally sealed, then than to build a space station in orbit. Secondly, Drax could have used aircraft to deliver the toxin. Why? Because he runs an '''''aero'''''''space'' company, and he had a radar jamming system for his space station. And even if it couldn't be fitted on a plane, stealth wasn't a complete unknown back then. Putting stuff into space is insanely expensive, up to $10,000 to put ''one kilogram'' into orbit, which is why you didn't take your last holiday at Utopia Planetia, Mars. But I guess this was all discarded in favour of footage of space shuttles docking, undocking, and performing course corrections.
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* Where did Drax's guards in the space station fit into the whole "Kill everyone on Earth then repopulate the planet" scheme? Did they get a survival bonus or something?

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* Where did Drax's guards in the space station fit into the whole "Kill everyone on Earth then repopulate the planet" scheme? Did they get a survival bonus or something?something?
** Possibly any guards who didn't meet Drax's genetic standards would've been sterilized. They're spy-movie mooks; he could've insisted they get cyanide tooth-implants and then secretly thrown in a vasectomy while they were anesthetized.
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** Sorry but no. If you travel from San Jose to London, you will fly over the Yukon, because the shortest distance between the two cities is to fly close to the Arctic Circle. Flying directly west to east adds between 1,000 and 2,000 miles to the trip - and the Earth is rotating away from you the whole time - which it also is doing if you travel north by northeast rather than east by northeast, but the closer you are to the poles, the less there is a change of distance as the Earth rotates.

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** Sorry but no. If you travel from San Jose to London, you will fly over the Yukon, because the shortest distance between the two cities is to fly close to the Arctic Circle. Flying directly west to east adds between 1,000 and 2,000 miles to the trip - and the Earth is rotating away from you the whole time - which it also is doing if you travel north by northeast rather than east by northeast, but the closer you are to the poles, the less there is a change of distance as the Earth rotates.rotates.

* Where did Drax's guards in the space station fit into the whole "Kill everyone on Earth then repopulate the planet" scheme? Did they get a survival bonus or something?
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** Sorry but no. If you travel from San Jose to London, you will fly over the Yukon, because the shortest distance between the two cities is to fly over the Arctic Circle. Flying directly west to east adds between 1,000 and 2,000 miles to the trip - and the Earth is rotating away from you the whole time.

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** Sorry but no. If you travel from San Jose to London, you will fly over the Yukon, because the shortest distance between the two cities is to fly over close to the Arctic Circle. Flying directly west to east adds between 1,000 and 2,000 miles to the trip - and the Earth is rotating away from you the whole time.time - which it also is doing if you travel north by northeast rather than east by northeast, but the closer you are to the poles, the less there is a change of distance as the Earth rotates.
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* At the beginning of the movie the Moonraker shuttle is being flown from the U.S. to England. After the Moonraker is hijacked, the jet carrying it crashes in the Yukon. Problem: the Yukon is the westernmost part of Canada, just east of Alaska. How exactly did a plane traveling from the U.S. to England end up there? Even assuming the flight started in California where the Moonraker was built, there's no reason for it to ever be over the Yukon.

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* At the beginning of the movie the Moonraker shuttle is being flown from the U.S. to England. After the Moonraker is hijacked, the jet carrying it crashes in the Yukon. Problem: the Yukon is the westernmost part of Canada, just east of Alaska. How exactly did a plane traveling from the U.S. to England end up there? Even assuming the flight started in California where the Moonraker was built, there's no reason for it to ever be over the Yukon.Yukon.
** Sorry but no. If you travel from San Jose to London, you will fly over the Yukon, because the shortest distance between the two cities is to fly over the Arctic Circle. Flying directly west to east adds between 1,000 and 2,000 miles to the trip - and the Earth is rotating away from you the whole time.
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*** Drax would have needed people on the ground to enable the shuttles to safely land again, presumably that was these people's job.
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*** You still couldn't use them as if you were on the space station they'd puncture the hull, and send you flying if you were in space with a thruster pack. And I thought bullets had to be sealed to fire in space.
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** Yep pretty much, it sounds bad I know but remember they were cool with killing everyone on Earth.

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