History Headscratchers / MetalGearSolid

16th Oct '17 5:14:07 PM thatsnumberwang
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** I think you answered your own question to be honest. There was no reason at all not to have that case back then if you bought the game legitimately. Digital downloads weren't just in their infancy, they were non-existent on the PlayStation 1.
16th Oct '17 5:03:38 PM thatsnumberwang
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** That or she was lying. She is an extremely manipulative person.
16th Oct '17 4:56:01 PM thatsnumberwang
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* Baker was heavily involved in the creation of Metal Gear REX, so wouldn't he have known that the card keys would ''start up'' REX, rather than deactivate it? Snake brings this up while interrogating him (after saving him from Ocelot), but Baker doesn't correct him.

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* Baker was heavily involved in the creation of Metal Gear REX, so wouldn't he have known that the card keys would ''start up'' REX, rather than deactivate it? Snake brings this up while interrogating him (after saving him from Ocelot), but Baker doesn't correct him.him.
** Give the guy a break. He is an old man who is exhausted, has just been tortured half to death and has spent God knows how long strapped to a post surrounded by C4.
27th Sep '17 7:37:13 AM Brandon
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** I think the manual mentioned that it was the fact that most of the equipment could not fit in that small submarine torpedo that snake was launched out of in the opening. Also, what they need to keep secret here isn't that Foxhound has gone rouge but that Metal Gear Rex and the genome army exists. Though it is easy to miss the codec calls mention it a couple of times in the game. Like "Metal Gear is one of the most secret black projects!" and "Publicly the president has been very vocal in his opposition to genetic experiments, we don't want the existence of the genome army to go public." Basically it is less the government has to do illegal stuff in this case, but that the whole situation is an embarrassment to them.

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** I think the manual mentioned that it was the fact that most of the equipment could not fit in that small submarine torpedo that snake was launched out of in the opening. Also, what they need to keep secret here isn't that Foxhound has gone rouge but that Metal Gear Rex and the genome army exists. Though it is easy to miss the codec calls mention it a couple of times in the game. Like "Metal Gear is one of the most secret black projects!" and "Publicly the president has been very vocal in his opposition to genetic experiments, we don't want the existence of the genome army to go public." Basically it is less the government has to do illegal stuff in this case, but that the whole situation is an embarrassment to them.them.
* Baker was heavily involved in the creation of Metal Gear REX, so wouldn't he have known that the card keys would ''start up'' REX, rather than deactivate it? Snake brings this up while interrogating him (after saving him from Ocelot), but Baker doesn't correct him.
2nd Sep '17 12:52:20 PM HalcyonDayz
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** How is there a gaping plot hole? Sahelanthropus was being controlled by Psycho Mantis with Liquid inside it and it was already active during MGS5. Now compare that to ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' where Rex was inactive at the time and neither Liquid nor Mantis had any idea how to activate Rex until Solid Snake Inserted the activation card key which both Liquid and Mantis had no idea how the key worked at the time. Also if Liquid entered Rex while it was inactive while Mantis was using his powers to help pilot it, it would be comparable to a passenger guiding a driver inside a car only for them to realize they had no keys in the car ignition to be able to drive. Mantis couldn't use that ability since Rex would still be inactive.

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** How is there a gaping plot hole? Sahelanthropus was being controlled by Psycho Mantis with Liquid inside it and it was already active during MGS5.''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidVGroundZeroes''. Now compare that to ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' where Rex was inactive at the time and neither Liquid nor Mantis had any idea how to activate Rex until Solid Snake Inserted the activation card key which both Liquid and Mantis had no idea how the key worked at the time. Also if Liquid entered Rex while it was inactive while Mantis was using his powers to help pilot it, it would be comparable to a passenger guiding a driver inside a car only for them to realize they had no keys in the car ignition to be able to drive. Mantis couldn't use that ability since Rex would still be inactive.
2nd Sep '17 11:57:03 AM HalcyonDayz
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* Hello, just finished the game a couple hours ago, and am I the only one SERIOUSLY bothered by the vague answer Naomi gives Snake when he asks her how long he has left to live? Clearly he's fine and doesn't die until MGS4 (and that's because of old age mutating the Foxdie virus), so what happened? Did Naomi not program the virus to kill Snake? I'm seriously confused! Also, the virus killed Baker and Decoy Octopus right away when they were exposed to it but took way longer to kill Liquid, so what the heck is going on?!

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* Hello, just finished the game a couple hours ago, and am I the only one SERIOUSLY bothered by the vague answer Naomi gives Snake when he asks her how long he has left to live? Clearly he's fine and doesn't die until MGS4 ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots'' (and that's because of old age mutating the Foxdie virus), so what happened? Did Naomi not program the virus to kill Snake? I'm seriously confused! Also, the virus killed Baker and Decoy Octopus right away when they were exposed to it but took way longer to kill Liquid, so what the heck is going on?!
2nd Sep '17 9:37:30 AM HalcyonDayz
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** How is there a gaping plot hole? Sahelanthropus was being controlled by Psycho Mantis with Liquid inside it and it was already active during MGS5. Now compare that to MGS1 where Rex was inactive at the time and neither Liquid nor Mantis had any idea how to activate Rex until Solid Snake Inserted the activation card key which both Liquid and Mantis had no idea how the key worked at the time. Also if Liquid entered Rex while it was inactive while Mantis was using his powers to help pilot it, it would be comparable to a passenger guiding a driver inside a car only for them to realize they had no keys in the car ignition to be able to drive. Mantis couldn't use that ability since Rex would still be inactive.

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** How is there a gaping plot hole? Sahelanthropus was being controlled by Psycho Mantis with Liquid inside it and it was already active during MGS5. Now compare that to MGS1 ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'' where Rex was inactive at the time and neither Liquid nor Mantis had any idea how to activate Rex until Solid Snake Inserted the activation card key which both Liquid and Mantis had no idea how the key worked at the time. Also if Liquid entered Rex while it was inactive while Mantis was using his powers to help pilot it, it would be comparable to a passenger guiding a driver inside a car only for them to realize they had no keys in the car ignition to be able to drive. Mantis couldn't use that ability since Rex would still be inactive.
17th May '17 3:46:41 AM Wildcard
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* Why limit Solid Snake's equipment to what he can obtain on-site? The manual to the previous game explains this is normal operating procedure for Fox-Hound to maintain plausible deniability: They commonly handle operations that the United States government cannot be shown to be officially involved in, and high-end military equipment could be traced back to U.S. military if it fell to enemy hands. This makes sense. However, there is no reason to apply this policy for Shadow Moses. First, this is government forces working to suppress criminal activity on their own soil. There is absolutely zero need to hide their involvement. Second, it would be impossible to maintain anonymity because the place is full of people who can recognize Snake by appearance!

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* Why limit Solid Snake's equipment to what he can obtain on-site? The manual to the previous game explains this is normal operating procedure for Fox-Hound to maintain plausible deniability: They commonly handle operations that the United States government cannot be shown to be officially involved in, and high-end military equipment could be traced back to U.S. military if it fell to enemy hands. This makes sense. However, there is no reason to apply this policy for Shadow Moses. First, this is government forces working to suppress criminal activity on their own soil. There is absolutely zero need to hide their involvement. Second, it would be impossible to maintain anonymity because the place is full of people who can recognize Snake by appearance!appearance!
**I think the manual mentioned that it was the fact that most of the equipment could not fit in that small submarine torpedo that snake was launched out of in the opening. Also, what they need to keep secret here isn't that Foxhound has gone rouge but that Metal Gear Rex and the genome army exists. Though it is easy to miss the codec calls mention it a couple of times in the game. Like "Metal Gear is one of the most secret black projects!" and "Publicly the president has been very vocal in his opposition to genetic experiments, we don't want the existence of the genome army to go public." Basically it is less the government has to do illegal stuff in this case, but that the whole situation is an embarrassment to them.
2nd May '17 8:44:35 PM Lynxxon
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** Unlikely and unfortunately for Snake, since he and Meryl (canonically) spent six months being in a relationship before it withered down due to Snake's inability to live happily with himself as a civilian; Immediately afterwards, Snake and Otacon founded Philanthropy and got wrapped up taking down various Metal Gears worldwide for two years, [[MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty and then the business in 2007...]]

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** Unlikely and unfortunately for Snake, since he and Meryl (canonically) spent six months being in a relationship with one another before it withered down down, due to Snake's inability to live happily with himself as a civilian; Immediately Sometime afterwards, Snake and Otacon founded Philanthropy and got wrapped busy up taking down various Metal Gears worldwide for two years, [[MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty and then the business in 2007...]]
2nd May '17 8:29:45 PM Lynxxon
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* What was the purpose of the two cell's Maryl and The Darpa Chief were being held in before Fox Hound took control? There is an office right next to it but they are designed like prison cells. This was supposed to be a civilian base. So why did they have it?

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** Unlikely and unfortunately for Snake, since he and Meryl (canonically) spent six months being in a relationship before it withered down due to Snake's inability to live happily with himself as a civilian; Immediately afterwards, Snake and Otacon founded Philanthropy and got wrapped up taking down various Metal Gears worldwide for two years, [[MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty and then the business in 2007...]]
* What was the purpose of the two cell's Maryl Meryl and The Darpa Chief were being held in before Fox Hound took control? There is an office right next to it but they are designed like prison cells. This was supposed to be a civilian base. So why did they have it?
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