History Headscratchers / MetalGearSolid

17th May '17 3:46:41 AM Wildcard
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* Why limit Solid Snake's equipment to what he can obtain on-site? The manual to the previous game explains this is normal operating procedure for Fox-Hound to maintain plausible deniability: They commonly handle operations that the United States government cannot be shown to be officially involved in, and high-end military equipment could be traced back to U.S. military if it fell to enemy hands. This makes sense. However, there is no reason to apply this policy for Shadow Moses. First, this is government forces working to suppress criminal activity on their own soil. There is absolutely zero need to hide their involvement. Second, it would be impossible to maintain anonymity because the place is full of people who can recognize Snake by appearance!

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* Why limit Solid Snake's equipment to what he can obtain on-site? The manual to the previous game explains this is normal operating procedure for Fox-Hound to maintain plausible deniability: They commonly handle operations that the United States government cannot be shown to be officially involved in, and high-end military equipment could be traced back to U.S. military if it fell to enemy hands. This makes sense. However, there is no reason to apply this policy for Shadow Moses. First, this is government forces working to suppress criminal activity on their own soil. There is absolutely zero need to hide their involvement. Second, it would be impossible to maintain anonymity because the place is full of people who can recognize Snake by appearance!appearance!
**I think the manual mentioned that it was the fact that most of the equipment could not fit in that small submarine torpedo that snake was launched out of in the opening. Also, what they need to keep secret here isn't that Foxhound has gone rouge but that Metal Gear Rex and the genome army exists. Though it is easy to miss the codec calls mention it a couple of times in the game. Like "Metal Gear is one of the most secret black projects!" and "Publicly the president has been very vocal in his opposition to genetic experiments, we don't want the existence of the genome army to go public." Basically it is less the government has to do illegal stuff in this case, but that the whole situation is an embarrassment to them.
2nd May '17 8:44:35 PM Lynxxon
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** Unlikely and unfortunately for Snake, since he and Meryl (canonically) spent six months being in a relationship before it withered down due to Snake's inability to live happily with himself as a civilian; Immediately afterwards, Snake and Otacon founded Philanthropy and got wrapped up taking down various Metal Gears worldwide for two years, [[MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty and then the business in 2007...]]

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** Unlikely and unfortunately for Snake, since he and Meryl (canonically) spent six months being in a relationship with one another before it withered down down, due to Snake's inability to live happily with himself as a civilian; Immediately Sometime afterwards, Snake and Otacon founded Philanthropy and got wrapped busy up taking down various Metal Gears worldwide for two years, [[MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty and then the business in 2007...]]
2nd May '17 8:29:45 PM Lynxxon
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* What was the purpose of the two cell's Maryl and The Darpa Chief were being held in before Fox Hound took control? There is an office right next to it but they are designed like prison cells. This was supposed to be a civilian base. So why did they have it?

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** Unlikely and unfortunately for Snake, since he and Meryl (canonically) spent six months being in a relationship before it withered down due to Snake's inability to live happily with himself as a civilian; Immediately afterwards, Snake and Otacon founded Philanthropy and got wrapped up taking down various Metal Gears worldwide for two years, [[MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty and then the business in 2007...]]
* What was the purpose of the two cell's Maryl Meryl and The Darpa Chief were being held in before Fox Hound took control? There is an office right next to it but they are designed like prison cells. This was supposed to be a civilian base. So why did they have it?
11th Apr '17 6:15:38 PM Brandon
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** There was originally going to be a boss battle between Snake and Octopus, but technical limitations prevented that. My guess is Octopus was originally going to be the first boss battle (not, Revolver Ocelot), and in-game Octopus would have lured Snake somewhere on the base before ambushing him, similar to Blind the Thief in ''The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past''.
6th Apr '17 11:57:54 PM timotaka
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* Why limit Solid Snake's equipment to what he can obtain on-site? The manual to the previous game explains this is normal operating procedure for Fox-Hound to maintain plausible deniability: They commonly handle operations that the U.S. cannot be shown to be officially involved in, and high-end military equipment could be traced back to U.S. military if it fell to enemy hands. This makes sense. However, there is no reason to apply this policy for Shadow Moses. First, this is government forces working to suppress criminal activity on their own soil. There is absolutely zero need to hide their involvement. Second, it would be impossible to maintain anonymity because the place is full of people who can recognize Snake by appearance!

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* Why limit Solid Snake's equipment to what he can obtain on-site? The manual to the previous game explains this is normal operating procedure for Fox-Hound to maintain plausible deniability: They commonly handle operations that the U.S. United States government cannot be shown to be officially involved in, and high-end military equipment could be traced back to U.S. military if it fell to enemy hands. This makes sense. However, there is no reason to apply this policy for Shadow Moses. First, this is government forces working to suppress criminal activity on their own soil. There is absolutely zero need to hide their involvement. Second, it would be impossible to maintain anonymity because the place is full of people who can recognize Snake by appearance!
6th Apr '17 11:57:10 PM timotaka
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** Prior to the mission, she programmed FOXDIE to activate at a random time for Snake in order to maximally torture him in retaliation for his history with Gray Fox. This, ironically, ended up saving his life, since "random" ended up turning into "years and years later on".

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** Prior to the mission, she programmed FOXDIE to activate at a random time for Snake in order to maximally torture him in retaliation for his history with Gray Fox. This, ironically, ended up saving his life, since "random" ended up turning into "years and years later on".on".
* Why limit Solid Snake's equipment to what he can obtain on-site? The manual to the previous game explains this is normal operating procedure for Fox-Hound to maintain plausible deniability: They commonly handle operations that the U.S. cannot be shown to be officially involved in, and high-end military equipment could be traced back to U.S. military if it fell to enemy hands. This makes sense. However, there is no reason to apply this policy for Shadow Moses. First, this is government forces working to suppress criminal activity on their own soil. There is absolutely zero need to hide their involvement. Second, it would be impossible to maintain anonymity because the place is full of people who can recognize Snake by appearance!
20th Mar '17 6:49:10 AM Raxis
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* Hello, just finished the game a couple hours ago, and am I the only one SERIOUSLY bothered by the vague answer Naomi gives Snake when he asks her how long he has left to live? Clearly he's fine and doesn't die until MGS4 (and that's because of old age mutating the Foxdie virus), so what happened? Did Naomi not program the virus to kill Snake? I'm seriously confused! Also, the virus killed Baker and Decoy Octopus right away when they were exposed to it but took way longer to kill Liquid, so what the heck is going on?!

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* Hello, just finished the game a couple hours ago, and am I the only one SERIOUSLY bothered by the vague answer Naomi gives Snake when he asks her how long he has left to live? Clearly he's fine and doesn't die until MGS4 (and that's because of old age mutating the Foxdie virus), so what happened? Did Naomi not program the virus to kill Snake? I'm seriously confused! Also, the virus killed Baker and Decoy Octopus right away when they were exposed to it but took way longer to kill Liquid, so what the heck is going on?!on?!
** Prior to the mission, she programmed FOXDIE to activate at a random time for Snake in order to maximally torture him in retaliation for his history with Gray Fox. This, ironically, ended up saving his life, since "random" ended up turning into "years and years later on".
16th Feb '17 4:24:59 AM PandaXclone2
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*** Well not completely; they still [[spoiler:had Metal Gear Rex's testing data. As it's revealed in [=MGS2=], Ocelot sells this data to the highest bidders and gains a lot of money out of it, which could then have been used to do pretty much any other project they wanted. Assuming Snake died, Liquid still could've gotten his money via this method and possibly use some of it to fix the Genome Soldiers like he wanted.]]

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*** Well not completely; they still [[spoiler:had Metal Gear Rex's testing data. As it's revealed in [=MGS2=], Ocelot sells this data to the highest bidders and gains a lot of money out of it, which could could've then have been used to do pretty much any other project they he wanted. Assuming Snake died, Liquid still could've gotten his money via this method and possibly use some of it to fix the Genome Soldiers like he wanted.]]
16th Feb '17 4:23:39 AM PandaXclone2
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*** Well not completely; they still [[spoiler:had Metal Gear Rex's testing data. As it's revealed in [=MGS2=], Ocelot sells this data to the highest bidders and gains a lot of money out of it, which could then have been used to do pretty much any other project they wanted. Assuming Snake died, Liquid still could've gotten his money via this method and possibly use some of it to fix the Genome Soldiers like he wanted.]]
1st Jan '17 5:31:56 PM Etagirl
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** It's a purely ballistic projectile. The idea is Rex does the calculations to hit its target by firing in an arc. ''Nothing'' that doesn't have its own continuous propulsion actually flies "straight." It's like shooting an arrow into the air -- if you do the math, you can hit what you want even without directly aiming it.

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** It's a purely ballistic projectile. The idea is Rex does the calculations to hit its target by firing in an arc. ''Nothing'' that doesn't have its own continuous propulsion actually flies "straight." It's like shooting an arrow into the air -- if you do the math, you can hit what you want even without directly aiming it.it.

*Hello, just finished the game a couple hours ago, and am I the only one SERIOUSLY bothered by the vague answer Naomi gives Snake when he asks her how long he has left to live? Clearly he's fine and doesn't die until MGS4 (and that's because of old age mutating the Foxdie virus), so what happened? Did Naomi not program the virus to kill Snake? I'm seriously confused! Also, the virus killed Baker and Decoy Octopus right away when they were exposed to it but took way longer to kill Liquid, so what the heck is going on?!
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