History Headscratchers / MetalGearSolid

20th Mar '17 6:49:10 AM Raxis
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* Hello, just finished the game a couple hours ago, and am I the only one SERIOUSLY bothered by the vague answer Naomi gives Snake when he asks her how long he has left to live? Clearly he's fine and doesn't die until MGS4 (and that's because of old age mutating the Foxdie virus), so what happened? Did Naomi not program the virus to kill Snake? I'm seriously confused! Also, the virus killed Baker and Decoy Octopus right away when they were exposed to it but took way longer to kill Liquid, so what the heck is going on?!

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* Hello, just finished the game a couple hours ago, and am I the only one SERIOUSLY bothered by the vague answer Naomi gives Snake when he asks her how long he has left to live? Clearly he's fine and doesn't die until MGS4 (and that's because of old age mutating the Foxdie virus), so what happened? Did Naomi not program the virus to kill Snake? I'm seriously confused! Also, the virus killed Baker and Decoy Octopus right away when they were exposed to it but took way longer to kill Liquid, so what the heck is going on?!on?!
** Prior to the mission, she programmed FOXDIE to activate at a random time for Snake in order to maximally torture him in retaliation for his history with Gray Fox. This, ironically, ended up saving his life, since "random" ended up turning into "years and years later on".
16th Feb '17 4:24:59 AM PandaXclone2
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*** Well not completely; they still [[spoiler:had Metal Gear Rex's testing data. As it's revealed in [=MGS2=], Ocelot sells this data to the highest bidders and gains a lot of money out of it, which could then have been used to do pretty much any other project they wanted. Assuming Snake died, Liquid still could've gotten his money via this method and possibly use some of it to fix the Genome Soldiers like he wanted.]]

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*** Well not completely; they still [[spoiler:had Metal Gear Rex's testing data. As it's revealed in [=MGS2=], Ocelot sells this data to the highest bidders and gains a lot of money out of it, which could could've then have been used to do pretty much any other project they he wanted. Assuming Snake died, Liquid still could've gotten his money via this method and possibly use some of it to fix the Genome Soldiers like he wanted.]]
16th Feb '17 4:23:39 AM PandaXclone2
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*** Well not completely; they still [[spoiler:had Metal Gear Rex's testing data. As it's revealed in [=MGS2=], Ocelot sells this data to the highest bidders and gains a lot of money out of it, which could then have been used to do pretty much any other project they wanted. Assuming Snake died, Liquid still could've gotten his money via this method and possibly use some of it to fix the Genome Soldiers like he wanted.]]
1st Jan '17 5:31:56 PM Etagirl
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** It's a purely ballistic projectile. The idea is Rex does the calculations to hit its target by firing in an arc. ''Nothing'' that doesn't have its own continuous propulsion actually flies "straight." It's like shooting an arrow into the air -- if you do the math, you can hit what you want even without directly aiming it.

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** It's a purely ballistic projectile. The idea is Rex does the calculations to hit its target by firing in an arc. ''Nothing'' that doesn't have its own continuous propulsion actually flies "straight." It's like shooting an arrow into the air -- if you do the math, you can hit what you want even without directly aiming it.it.

*Hello, just finished the game a couple hours ago, and am I the only one SERIOUSLY bothered by the vague answer Naomi gives Snake when he asks her how long he has left to live? Clearly he's fine and doesn't die until MGS4 (and that's because of old age mutating the Foxdie virus), so what happened? Did Naomi not program the virus to kill Snake? I'm seriously confused! Also, the virus killed Baker and Decoy Octopus right away when they were exposed to it but took way longer to kill Liquid, so what the heck is going on?!
29th May '16 10:27:53 AM nombretomado
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*** Not only that, but there were more limitations on AI back on the PS1 on 1998 due to hardware and software. But yeah, in-story, they are supposed to be better than real soldiers, even if it doesn't seem like it in gameplay.

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*** Not only that, but there were more limitations on AI back on the PS1 [=PS1=] on 1998 due to hardware and software. But yeah, in-story, they are supposed to be better than real soldiers, even if it doesn't seem like it in gameplay.
28th May '16 4:48:57 PM nombretomado
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'''Remember''': ''Metal Gear Solid'' is not the name of the series. This page is for {{Headscratchers}} concerning the first title ''Metal Gear Solid'' for the PlayStation and UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube. Put {{Headscratchers}} for the entire series on the [[Headscratchers/MetalGear Metal Gear Headscratchers page]], or, if your Headscratcher is about something that only happened in one game, try one of the following pages:

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'''Remember''': ''Metal Gear Solid'' is not the name of the series. This page is for {{Headscratchers}} concerning the first title ''Metal Gear Solid'' for the PlayStation UsefulNotes/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube. Put {{Headscratchers}} for the entire series on the [[Headscratchers/MetalGear Metal Gear Headscratchers page]], or, if your Headscratcher is about something that only happened in one game, try one of the following pages:
8th Apr '16 2:50:52 PM Dragon101
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** The line I get is, "You are a very methodical man. The type that likes to kick his tires before he leaves". I always assumed it was because I went out of my way to collect any rations, ammo or equipment that I needed in every area and make sure I am fully healed whenever possible- "kick his tires" = "check everything is working and prepared".
*** Also get "You are a highly skilled warrior, well suited to this stealth mission", which means I neither die nor get caught or set off an alarm; and "You are extremely careful of traps. You are either very cautious...or you are a coward", which means I know where the traps are because I played this game so many times I can remember exactly what Mantis says from memory and I know where all the traps are and thus don't get killed by them.
29th Mar '16 7:54:32 AM MrDeath
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* How is REX's launch system supposed to work? I understand its supposed to be undetectable with no exhaust flame, but how is the warhead supposed to bleed off speed and guide itself from the electromagnetic launch? Say REX launches towards the other side of the world; that warhead is going to go straight as an arrow for a long while at high speed since its electromagnetically launched. It can't bleed off speed or guide itself without slowing down somehow, rendering it visible to detection. Unlike an ICBM, which launches upwards, REX sits at ground level and its railgun has limited elevation. What targets can it realistically hit?

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\n** He's a master of disguise. That's his whole thing. What do you think would have been difficult for him to do in convincing Snake that he was someone Snake was totally unfamiliar with, hadn't ever met and knew next to nothing about?

* How is REX's launch system supposed to work? I understand its supposed to be undetectable with no exhaust flame, but how is the warhead supposed to bleed off speed and guide itself from the electromagnetic launch? Say REX launches towards the other side of the world; that warhead is going to go straight as an arrow for a long while at high speed since its electromagnetically launched. It can't bleed off speed or guide itself without slowing down somehow, rendering it visible to detection. Unlike an ICBM, which launches upwards, REX sits at ground level and its railgun has limited elevation. What targets can it realistically hit?hit?
** It's a purely ballistic projectile. The idea is Rex does the calculations to hit its target by firing in an arc. ''Nothing'' that doesn't have its own continuous propulsion actually flies "straight." It's like shooting an arrow into the air -- if you do the math, you can hit what you want even without directly aiming it.
28th Mar '16 10:26:17 PM Antediluvial
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* Let's say [[spoiler: Decoy Octopus]] hadn't died from the virus. How would he have been able to keep up the charade as [[spoiler: Donald Anderson]] after Snake "rescues" him?

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* Let's say [[spoiler: Decoy Octopus]] hadn't died from the virus. How would he have been able to keep up the charade as [[spoiler: Donald Anderson]] after Snake "rescues" him?him?

*How is REX's launch system supposed to work? I understand its supposed to be undetectable with no exhaust flame, but how is the warhead supposed to bleed off speed and guide itself from the electromagnetic launch? Say REX launches towards the other side of the world; that warhead is going to go straight as an arrow for a long while at high speed since its electromagnetically launched. It can't bleed off speed or guide itself without slowing down somehow, rendering it visible to detection. Unlike an ICBM, which launches upwards, REX sits at ground level and its railgun has limited elevation. What targets can it realistically hit?
21st Feb '16 7:08:12 PM Biophonic
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**How is there a gaping plot hole? Sahelanthropus was being controlled by Psycho Mantis with Liquid inside it and it was already active during MGS5. Now compare that to MGS1 where Rex was inactive at the time and neither Liquid nor Mantis had any idea how to activate Rex until Solid Snake Inserted the activation card key which both Liquid and Mantis had no idea how the key worked at the time. Also if Liquid entered Rex while it was inactive while Mantis was using his powers to help pilot it, it would be comparable to a passenger guiding a driver inside a car only for them to realize they had no keys in the car ignition to be able to drive. Mantis couldn't use that ability since Rex would still be inactive.
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