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** While unseen from the Drop ship’s vantage point, logically there would be steps from the beach to the Amazon's homes. Otherwise how would Amazon's get from the cliffs to the beach. Pragmatically speaking it would be one of the first things they would build for convenience.

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** While unseen from the Drop ship’s vantage point, logically there would be steps from the beach to the Amazon's homes. Otherwise how would Amazon's get from the cliffs to the beach. beach. Pragmatically speaking it would be one of the first things they would build for convenience.
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* What happened to Helen after being dropped off at Themyscira...or should I say, how did she get out of that tiny beach with the imposing cliffs on all sides?

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* What happened to Helen after being dropped off at Themyscira...or should I say, how did she get out of that tiny beach with the imposing cliffs on all sides?sides?
** While unseen from the Drop ship’s vantage point, logically there would be steps from the beach to the Amazon's homes. Otherwise how would Amazon's get from the cliffs to the beach. Pragmatically speaking it would be one of the first things they would build for convenience.
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** However it has been established that while Sara has no fear on bedding woman with shared sexual attraction there has to be an attraction there for it to happen. Simply put Helen didn't do it for her. Which makes sense; Helen had no interest in her either. Sara while more than happy to bed willing partners is not constantly on the prowl.
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*** It's also possible he found the situation so geniunely hilarious he lost his concentration for a few seconds.

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*** It's also possible he found the situation so geniunely hilarious he lost his concentration for a few seconds.seconds.
* What happened to Helen after being dropped off at Themyscira...or should I say, how did she get out of that tiny beach with the imposing cliffs on all sides?
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*** Or basically being [[EvilIsPetty true to his nature.]] If it was a situation he did a stupid act that left him vulnerable just for laughs then yes he [[IdiotBall grabbed the ball with both hands.]] But at the time he was up against two humans, against Dahrk and his powers. Besides him was his [[PintSizedPowerhouse daughter who could take on three Legends head on.]] So with those advantages in his corner, he allowed himself to [[{{Sadist}} fall into the familiar patterns of playing with his prey.]]

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*** Or basically being [[EvilIsPetty true to his nature.]] If it was a situation he did a stupid act that left him vulnerable just for laughs then yes he [[IdiotBall grabbed the ball with both hands.]] But at the time he was up against two humans, against Dahrk and his powers. Besides him was his [[PintSizedPowerhouse daughter who could take on three Legends head on.]] So with those advantages in his corner, he allowed himself to [[{{Sadist}} fall into the familiar patterns of playing with his prey.]]]]
*** It's also possible he found the situation so geniunely hilarious he lost his concentration for a few seconds.
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** The episode established that if that man was too pre-occupied with another task, he wouldn’t focus so much on Helen (I.e Stein spending most of the episode getting his boyhood crush Creator/HedyLaMarr back into the acting business). Likewise, Sara may have been too focused on her duties as the captain to follow through with any attraction she had to Helen (which is pretty in-character after establishing herself as the captain the previous season).
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*** Or basically being [[EvilIsPetty true to his nature.]] If it was a situation he did a stupid act that left him vulnerable just for laughs then yes he [[IdiotBall grabbed the ball with both hands.]] But at the time he was up against two humans, against Dahrk and his powers. Besides him was his [[PintSizedPowerhouse daughter who could take on three Legends head on.]] So with those advantages in his corner, he allowed himself to [[TheSadist fall into the familiar patterns of playing with his prey.]]

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*** Or basically being [[EvilIsPetty true to his nature.]] If it was a situation he did a stupid act that left him vulnerable just for laughs then yes he [[IdiotBall grabbed the ball with both hands.]] But at the time he was up against two humans, against Dahrk and his powers. Besides him was his [[PintSizedPowerhouse daughter who could take on three Legends head on.]] So with those advantages in his corner, he allowed himself to [[TheSadist [[{{Sadist}} fall into the familiar patterns of playing with his prey.]]

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*** Its more than an implication. Every male gets swayed by her. Falling over, fighting, instantly infatuated. She even comments on this being her ''curse''. Confirming that the attraction affects males in her vicinity but not females. Sara's wasn’t affected because while Helen is attractive there was nothing about Helen that grabbed her interest. That was why she was not attracted to her. Even if was mundane there is no reason for Sara to voice interest just because Helen was pretty, there has to be something there to spark interest. There wasn’t so no interest.



*** Or basically being true to his nature.

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*** Or basically being [[EvilIsPetty true to his nature.]] If it was a situation he did a stupid act that left him vulnerable just for laughs then yes he [[IdiotBall grabbed the ball with both hands.]] But at the time he was up against two humans, against Dahrk and his powers. Besides him was his [[PintSizedPowerhouse daughter who could take on three Legends head on.]] So with those advantages in his corner, he allowed himself to [[TheSadist fall into the familiar patterns of playing with his prey.]]
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*** Actually it does. As stated in show men falling in love with her was a result of her curse. It didn't affect women. Meaning that Sara finding her attractive wold be based on preference. Helen while pretty didn't attract her. As mentioned before just because Sara's Bi not every pretty face is going to spark interest.
*** The only word we get on whether her attraction is a literal curse or not is Helen's own, and she would likely call it such even if it wasn't supernatural. The episode never actually goes into whether it's just abnormal beauty or if there are genuine supernatural forces at play. If it's a curse that only works on men then Sara's preference would be wholly irrelevant, but if it's not explicitly gender-specific then it's a plot hole. (That being said, the implication seems to be that it's the former, and women just aren't effected by default. Although this make it strange that the guys end up being blamed for their actions while seduced.)

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*** Actually it does. As stated in show the show, men falling in love with her was a result of her curse. It didn't affect effect women. Meaning that Sara finding her attractive wold would be based on preference. Helen while pretty didn't attract her. As mentioned before just because Sara's Bi not every pretty face is going immune to spark interest.
*** The only word we get on whether her attraction is a literal curse or not is
the effects of Helen's own, and she would likely call it such even if it wasn't supernatural. charms by default.
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The episode never actually goes into whether it's just abnormal beauty or if there are genuine supernatural forces at play. play though. If it's a curse that only works on men then Sara's preference would should be wholly irrelevant, irrelevant as to why she wasn't effected, but if it's mundane and thus not explicitly gender-specific then it's a plot hole. hole as to why she wasn't effected when personal preference hasn't protected anyone else. (That being said, the implication seems to be that it's the former, and women just aren't effected by default. Although this make it strange that the guys end up being blamed for their actions while seduced.former.)
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***The only word we get on whether her attraction is a literal curse or not is Helen's own, and she would likely call it such even if it wasn't supernatural. The episode never actually goes into whether it's just abnormal beauty or if there are genuine supernatural forces at play. If it's a curse that only works on men then Sara's preference would be wholly irrelevant, but if it's not explicitly gender-specific then it's a plot hole. (That being said, the implication seems to be that it's the former, and women just aren't effected by default. Although this make it strange that the guys end up being blamed for their actions while seduced.)
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*** Darhk had to ability to kill all of Team Arrow numerous times during Season 4 and didn't take it. In the very last episode of this very series, he had the perfect opportunity to end all of the Legends and he didn't take it, instead he just kept on toying with them. Damien Darhk is the epitome of BondVillainStupidity.

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*** Darhk had to ability the opportunity to kill all of Team Arrow numerous times during Season 4 and didn't take it. In the very last previous episode of this very series, he had the perfect opportunity to end all of the Legends and he didn't take it, instead he just kept on toying with them. Damien Darhk is the epitome of BondVillainStupidity.
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*** Darhk had to ability to kill all of Team Arrow numerous times during Season 4 and didn't take it. In the very last episode of this very series, he had the perfect opportunity to end all of the Legends and he didn't take it, instead he just kept on toying with them. Damien Darhk is the epitome of BondVillainStupidity.

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*** Darhk had to ability to kill all of Team Arrow numerous times during Season 4 and didn't take it. In the very last episode of this very series, he had the perfect opportunity to end all of the Legends and he didn't take it, instead he just kept on toying with them. Damien Darhk is the epitome of BondVillainStupidity.BondVillainStupidity.
*** Or basically being true to his nature.
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*** Actually it does. As stated in show men falling in love with her was a result of her curse. It didn't affect women. Meaning that Sara finding her attractive wold be based on preference. Helen while pretty didn't attract her. As mentioned before just because Sara's Bi not every pretty face is going to spark interest.
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*** It's definitely still holding the IdiotBall. He's sadistic with a bad sense of humor sure, but he's not stupid. Stein is half of Firestorm, separated from Jefferson or not. They are by far the Legends' heaviest hitter and he had the opportunity to permanently remove that fighter. Instead he chose to play a game of cat and mouse under circumstances where he had little reason to believe it would work out. He had no idea where the rest of the legends were, for all he knew it was entirely plausible for them to be waiting around a literal corner and he just threw them their greatest weapon. Even for a sadist like him, it was a bond-villain level of stupid to not just kill Stein right there.

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*** It's definitely still holding the IdiotBall. He's sadistic with a bad sense of humor sure, but he's not stupid. Stein is half of Firestorm, separated from Jefferson or not. They are by far the Legends' heaviest hitter and he had the opportunity to permanently remove that fighter. Instead he chose to play a game of cat and mouse under circumstances where he had little reason to believe it would work out. He had no idea where the rest of the legends were, for all he knew it was entirely plausible for them to be waiting around a literal corner and he just threw them their greatest weapon. Even for a sadist like him, it was a bond-villain level of stupid to not just kill Stein right there.there.
*** Darhk had to ability to kill all of Team Arrow numerous times during Season 4 and didn't take it. In the very last episode of this very series, he had the perfect opportunity to end all of the Legends and he didn't take it, instead he just kept on toying with them. Damien Darhk is the epitome of BondVillainStupidity.
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*** The argument that she was probably just not Sara's type doesn't hold much water when you consider the fact that every man who fell under her spell would realistically also have a type. Men seem to fall for her unfailingly regardless of their preferences, so why would Sara's make a difference when theirs didn't?

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** It really doesn’t come off that strange. She doesn’t give Zari, Amaya or Sharpe looks. While we do see her give a lady here and there appreciative looks she doesn’t do it as much as fans of the show thinks she does. It's not strange just basic human nature. Just because someone is attracted to women does not mean they’re going to flirt or comment on every women they see. It's which lady they have a connection with or a certain attractive feature that they like. Helen of Troy had nothing that Sara was interested in so had no interest in her. Just because you like chocolate doesn’t mean you eat every piece you see.

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** *** It really doesn’t come off as that strange. She strange, she doesn’t give Zari, Amaya or Sharpe looks. While we do see her give a lady ladies here and there appreciative looks looks, she doesn’t do it as much as fans of the show thinks think she does. It's not strange strange, just basic human nature. Just because someone is attracted to women does not mean they’re going to flirt or comment on every women woman they see. It's which the lady they have a connection with - or a certain attractive feature - that they like. Helen of Troy had nothing that Sara was interested in in, so she had no interest in her. Just because you like chocolate doesn’t mean you eat every piece you see.



*** Thats because he didn't hold the strongest fighter in his grasp. He held a human being in his grasp with no combat skills, a human who gave him a good laugh who he got to [[{{Sadist}} hunt down and kill in his own sweet time.]] [[EvilIsPetty Vicious , cruel and all in chracter.]] Its not an idiot ball when its a [[BeYourself character trait that has been evident in all his appearences.]]

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*** Thats That's because he didn't hold the strongest fighter in his grasp. He held a human being in his grasp grasp, with no combat skills, a skills. A human who gave him a good laugh who laugh, whom he got to [[{{Sadist}} hunt down and kill in his own sweet time.]] [[EvilIsPetty Vicious , cruel and all in chracter.character.]] Its It's not an holding the idiot ball when its it's a [[BeYourself character trait that which has been evident in all his appearences.]]appearances.
*** It's definitely still holding the IdiotBall. He's sadistic with a bad sense of humor sure, but he's not stupid. Stein is half of Firestorm, separated from Jefferson or not. They are by far the Legends' heaviest hitter and he had the opportunity to permanently remove that fighter. Instead he chose to play a game of cat and mouse under circumstances where he had little reason to believe it would work out. He had no idea where the rest of the legends were, for all he knew it was entirely plausible for them to be waiting around a literal corner and he just threw them their greatest weapon. Even for a sadist like him, it was a bond-villain level of stupid to not just kill Stein right there.
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*** It really doesn’t come off that strange. She doesn’t give Zari, Amaya or Sharpe looks. While we do see her give a lady here and there appreciative looks she doesn’t do it as much as fans of the show thinks she does. It's not strange just basic human nature. Just because someone is attracted to women does not mean they’re going to flirt or comment on every women they see. It's which lady they have a connection with or a certain attractive feature that they like. Helen of Troy had nothing that Sara was interested in so had no interest in her. Just because you like chocolate doesn’t mean you eat every piece you see.

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*** ** It really doesn’t come off that strange. She doesn’t give Zari, Amaya or Sharpe looks. While we do see her give a lady here and there appreciative looks she doesn’t do it as much as fans of the show thinks she does. It's not strange just basic human nature. Just because someone is attracted to women does not mean they’re going to flirt or comment on every women they see. It's which lady they have a connection with or a certain attractive feature that they like. Helen of Troy had nothing that Sara was interested in so had no interest in her. Just because you like chocolate doesn’t mean you eat every piece you see.
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*** It really doesnt come off that strange. She doesnt give Zari, Amaya or Sharpe looks. While we do see her give a lady here and there appreciative looks she doesnt do as much as fans of the show thinks she does. It's not strange just basic human nature. Just because someone is attracted to women does not mean their going to flirt or comment on every women they see. It's which lady the have a connection with or a certain attractive feature that they like. Helen of Troy had nothing that Sara was interested in so had no interest in her. Just because you like chocolate doesnt mean you eat every peice you see.

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*** It really doesnt doesn’t come off that strange. She doesnt doesn’t give Zari, Amaya or Sharpe looks. While we do see her give a lady here and there appreciative looks she doesnt doesn’t do it as much as fans of the show thinks she does. It's not strange just basic human nature. Just because someone is attracted to women does not mean their they’re going to flirt or comment on every women they see. It's which lady the they have a connection with or a certain attractive feature that they like. Helen of Troy had nothing that Sara was interested in so had no interest in her. Just because you like chocolate doesnt doesn’t mean you eat every peice piece you see.
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*** It really doesnt come off that strange. She doesnt give Zari, Amaya or Sharpe looks. While we do see her give a lady here and there appreciative looks she doesnt do as much as fans of the show thinks she does. It's not strange just basic human nature. Just because someone is attracted to women does not mean their going to flirt or comment on every women they see. It's which lady the have a connection with or a certain attractive feature that they like. Helen of Troy had nothing that Sara was interested in so had no interest in her. Just because you like chocolate doesnt mean you eat every peice you see.
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*** Thats because he didnt hold the strongest fighter in his grasp. He held a human being in his grasp with no combat skills, a human who gave him a good laugh who he got to [[{{Sadist}} hunt down and kill in his own sweet time.]] [[EvilIsPetty Vicious , cruel and all in chracter.]] Its not an idiot ball when its a [[BeYourself character trait that has been evident in all his appearences.]]

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*** Thats because he didnt didn't hold the strongest fighter in his grasp. He held a human being in his grasp with no combat skills, a human who gave him a good laugh who he got to [[{{Sadist}} hunt down and kill in his own sweet time.]] [[EvilIsPetty Vicious , cruel and all in chracter.]] Its not an idiot ball when its a [[BeYourself character trait that has been evident in all his appearences.]]
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*** Thats because he didnt hold the strongest fighter in his grasp. He held a human being in his grasp with no combat skills, a human who gave him a good laugh who he got to [[Sadist hunt down and kill in his own sweet time.]] [[EvilIsPetty Vicious , cruel and all in chracter.]] Its not an idiot ball when its a character trait that has been evident in all his appearences.

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*** Thats because he didnt hold the strongest fighter in his grasp. He held a human being in his grasp with no combat skills, a human who gave him a good laugh who he got to [[Sadist [[{{Sadist}} hunt down and kill in his own sweet time.]] [[EvilIsPetty Vicious , cruel and all in chracter.]] Its not an idiot ball when its a [[BeYourself character trait that has been evident in all his appearences.]]
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*** Still comes off as him just holding the IdiotBall. He had half of the Legends' strongest fighter at his mercy and just lets him walk away when all it would give him was a cheap laugh. He knows that he and his daughter will probably end up having to fight the whole team of Legends by themselves, one would think if he's come to appreciate living more that he would be more careful not to hand his enemies their greatest weapons on a whim. There's being petty and then there's being TooDumbToLive.

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*** Still comes off as him just holding the IdiotBall. He had half of the Legends' strongest fighter at his mercy and just lets him walk away when all it would give him was a cheap laugh. He knows that he and his daughter will probably end up having to fight the whole team of Legends by themselves, one would think if he's come to appreciate living more that he would be more careful not to hand his enemies their greatest weapons on a whim. There's being petty and then there's being TooDumbToLive.TooDumbToLive.
*** Thats because he didnt hold the strongest fighter in his grasp. He held a human being in his grasp with no combat skills, a human who gave him a good laugh who he got to [[Sadist hunt down and kill in his own sweet time.]] [[EvilIsPetty Vicious , cruel and all in chracter.]] Its not an idiot ball when its a character trait that has been evident in all his appearences.
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*** Still comes off as him just holding the IdiotBall. He had half of the Legends' strongest fighter at his mercy and just lets him walk away when all it would give him was a cheap laugh. He knows that he and his daughter will probably end up having to fight the whole team of Legends by themselves. There's being petty and then there's being TooDumbToLive.

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*** Still comes off as him just holding the IdiotBall. He had half of the Legends' strongest fighter at his mercy and just lets him walk away when all it would give him was a cheap laugh. He knows that he and his daughter will probably end up having to fight the whole team of Legends by themselves.themselves, one would think if he's come to appreciate living more that he would be more careful not to hand his enemies their greatest weapons on a whim. There's being petty and then there's being TooDumbToLive.
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** From a meta perspective, it's possible the that writers intentionally made her not effect women because they were going to drop her off on Themyscira at the end. If her charms had worked on women as well, [[FridgeLogic she'd cause a civil war on Wonder Woman's home island.]]



** Because Darhk is a powerful mage with a [[EvilIsPetty sadistic streak and an evil sense of humour.]] He was one before he died. Moreso ever since coming back and mentioning to Sara he has learned to appreciate living more. Basically Darhk was being in character.

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** Because Darhk is a powerful mage with a [[EvilIsPetty sadistic streak and an evil sense of humour.]] He was one before he died. Moreso ever since coming back and mentioning to Sara he has learned to appreciate living more. Basically Darhk was being in character.character.
***Still comes off as him just holding the IdiotBall. He had half of the Legends' strongest fighter at his mercy and just lets him walk away when all it would give him was a cheap laugh. He knows that he and his daughter will probably end up having to fight the whole team of Legends by themselves. There's being petty and then there's being TooDumbToLive.
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** Because Darhk is a powerful mage with a [[EvilIsPetty sadistic streak and an evil sense of humour.]] He was one before he died. Moreso ever since coming back and mentioning to Sara he has learned to appreciate more. Basically Darhk was being in character.

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** Because Darhk is a powerful mage with a [[EvilIsPetty sadistic streak and an evil sense of humour.]] He was one before he died. Moreso ever since coming back and mentioning to Sara he has learned to appreciate living more. Basically Darhk was being in character.
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* Darhk has Stein immobilized through magic within arm's reach. He finds out that he and Jefferson switched bodies, laughs about it and... undoes the spell and lets them run away. Why?

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* Darhk has Stein immobilized through magic within arm's reach. He finds out that he and Jefferson switched bodies, laughs about it and... undoes the spell and lets them run away. Why?Why?
** Because Darhk is a powerful mage with a [[EvilIsPetty sadistic streak and an evil sense of humour.]] He was one before he died. Moreso ever since coming back and mentioning to Sara he has learned to appreciate more. Basically Darhk was being in character.
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**It still comes off as strange since she's just as prone to throwing appreciative glances at attractive women as the guys are. One could even argue she tends to do it more than they do, and she also sleeps around with more women than any other Legend, male or otherwise. There could be the possible excuse that Helen has a genuinely supernatural power which explicitly only works on men, but one would've thought the writers would have figured out a way to mention that tidbit if she did.
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* Darhk has Stein immobilized through magic and in arm's reach. Then he finds out that he and Jefferson switched bodies, laughs about it and... undoes the spell and let's them run away? Why?

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* Darhk has Stein immobilized through magic and in within arm's reach. Then he He finds out that he and Jefferson switched bodies, laughs about it and... undoes the spell and let's lets them run away? away. Why?
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** Then again seeing that her ability only seemed to affect men. It is possible her power only works on men as per history. Not only that, just because Helen's a pretty women doesn't mean that Sara would instantly be attracted to her. Being attracted to women does not mean attracted to every women with a pretty face.

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** Then again seeing that her ability only seemed to affect men. It is possible her power only works on men as per history. Not only that, just because Helen's a pretty women doesn't mean that Sara would instantly be attracted to her. Being attracted to women does not mean attracted to every women with a pretty face.face.
* Darhk has Stein immobilized through magic and in arm's reach. Then he finds out that he and Jefferson switched bodies, laughs about it and... undoes the spell and let's them run away? Why?
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* Sara is bisexual. Why wasn't she affected by Helen?
** Then again seeing that her ability only seemed to affect men. It is possible her power only works on men as per history. Not only that, just because Helen's a pretty women doesn't mean that Sara would instantly be attracted to her. Being attracted to women does not mean attracted to every women with a pretty face.

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