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** In light of recent revelations from ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX Kingdom Hearts Union Cross]]'', [[spoiler: if Lauriam, Marluxia's original, was one of the Dandelions, and thus had a Keyblade, something that should carry over to his Nobody self, if Roxas is any indication, as well as implied with Xemnas, why does he need to manipulate Sora to even be able to use the Keyblade's power?]]
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** In light of recent revelations from ''[[VideoGame/KingdomHeartsX Kingdom Hearts Union Cross]]'', [[spoiler: if Lauriam, Marluxia's original, was one of the Dandelions, and thus had a Keyblade, something that should carry over to his Nobody self, if Roxas is any indication, as well as implied with Xemnas, why does he need to manipulate Sora to even be able to use the Keyblade's power?]]
*** Same troper here, giving only a guess as to the above: [[spoiler: Terranort stabbing himself with his Keyblade, in his vain attempt to subdue Terra within him, lost his memories for a time, and subsequently, lost the ability to use his Keyblade. Something similar must have happened to Lauriam prior to becoming Marluxia that he lost and never regained the use of his Keyblade. Subsequently, he was drawn to it possibly because of lingering memories of having one, sensing his old Dandelion comrade Ventus within Sora, merely seeing Roxas, or a combination.]]
*** Same troper here, giving only a guess as to the above: [[spoiler: Terranort stabbing himself with his Keyblade, in his vain attempt to subdue Terra within him, lost his memories for a time, and subsequently, lost the ability to use his Keyblade. Something similar must have happened to Lauriam prior to becoming Marluxia that he lost and never regained the use of his Keyblade. Subsequently, he was drawn to it possibly because of lingering memories of having one, sensing his old Dandelion comrade Ventus within Sora, merely seeing Roxas, or a combination.]]
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** Also, isn't it canon that Radiant Gardens was destroyed because of the six Apprentice's actions? And considering that also took Lea and Isa down with it, I thought that Axel and Saix's whole 'take over the Organization' scheme was code for 'get revenge for our world and ourselves'. And even if it wasn't, the point remains... Even was directly responsible for Lea getting his heart ripped out. I think after that, Axel murdering Vexen was more than justified. So yes, it's awesome because amazing method, and KickTheSonOfABitch. Plus, in DDD [[spoiler: there's no sign of a grudge between Lea and Ienzo, implying that Axel's murders were a simple case of eye for an eye, and while not exactly friends, they're both dropping the matter. Although if Even makes an appearance in Kingdom Hearts 3, he may feel differently on the matter.]]
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** The same reason why Roxas is voiced by JesseMcCartney: [[MST3KMantra Why not?]]
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** The same reason why Roxas is voiced by JesseMcCartney: Music/JesseMcCartney: [[MST3KMantra Why not?]]
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** That wasn't a Castle Oblivion's Keyhole, he was locking the door behind him. Also, in the Ultimania for the first game, it's explained Sora and Mickey sealing the Door to Darkness not only restored the lost worlds but locked all of the keyholes to each worlds' hearts.
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** That wasn't a Castle Oblivion's Keyhole, he was locking the door behind him. Also, in the Ultimania for the first game, it's explained It's also presumed Sora and Mickey sealing the Door to Darkness not only restored the lost worlds but locked all of the keyholes to each worlds' hearts.hearts, seeing as in KH2, the worlds' walls were restored and special passageways were created for Sora and co. to travel between them, and that Sora never actually seals any Keyhole to a world's heart in the game.
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** That wasn't a Castle Oblivion's Keyhole, he was locking the door behind him. Also, in the Ultimania for the first game, it's explained Sora and Mickey sealing the Door to Darkness not only restored the lost worlds but locked all of the keyholes to each worlds' hearts.
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* Why did Sora need to lock the Keyhole for Castle Oblivion? Didn't Aqua already do it as part of the instructions of turning Land of Departure into Castle Oblivion?
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* Is the "Everything is ruled by Cards of your memory" thing a result of Castle Oblivion or was it merely something created by Namine's powers?
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** Jiminy did write summaries; [[GameplayAndStoryIntegration They're the current journal writings throughout the game]]. They were probably erased after Namine restored their previous memories and wiped out everything that happened in Castle Oblivion. The "Thank Namine" was a future reminder and not a part of the Castle Oblivion memories, which might explain why that message remained.
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** [[spoiler:Xemnas lied/Nomura Retconned, Nobodies can grow their own hearts and feelings, presumably this is what happened with Organization XIII.]]
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** [[spoiler:Xemnas lied/Nomura Retconned, lied. Nobodies can grow their own hearts and feelings, presumably this is what happened with Organization XIII.]]XIII. It was actually heavily implied throughout the games prior to DDD. See Axel's "Hey wait a minute, I'm actually enjoying this!" line]]
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** [[spoiler:Xemnas lied, Nobodies can grow their own hearts and feelings, presumably this is what happened with Organization XIII.]]
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*** This. How often do we use the word "hate" when we don't actually mean it?
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** Possibly because Namine was introduced in such an early game, and [[spoiler: Xion]] was not? Or maybe because she doesn't really pose that much of a threat to any ship--she does insert herself into Sora's memories, but by the end she's erased from those memories. Outside of this game, Namine does pose somewhat of a threat to the Axel/Roxas ship in KH2, but doesn't seem to get nearly as much ship-tease as [[spoiler: Xion]] did in Days.
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** Possibly because Namine was introduced in such an early game, and [[spoiler: Xion]] was not? Or maybe because she doesn't really pose that much of a threat to any ship--she does insert herself into Sora's memories, but by the end she's erased from those memories. Outside of this game, Namine does pose somewhat of a threat to the Axel/Roxas ship in KH2, [=KH2=], but doesn't seem to get nearly as much ship-tease as [[spoiler: Xion]] did in Days.
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** Possibly because Namine was introduced in such an early game, and Xion was not? Or maybe because she doesn't really pose that much of a threat to any ship--she does insert herself into Sora's memories, but by the end she's erased from those memories. Outside of this game, Namine does pose somewhat of a threat to the Axel/Roxas ship in KH2, but doesn't seem to get nearly as much ship-tease as Xion did in Days.
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** Possibly because Namine was introduced in such an early game, and Xion [[spoiler: Xion]] was not? Or maybe because she doesn't really pose that much of a threat to any ship--she does insert herself into Sora's memories, but by the end she's erased from those memories. Outside of this game, Namine does pose somewhat of a threat to the Axel/Roxas ship in KH2, but doesn't seem to get nearly as much ship-tease as Xion [[spoiler: Xion]] did in Days.
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** Possibly because Namine was introduced in such an early game, and Xion was not? Or maybe because she doesn't really pose that much of a threat to any ship--she does insert herself into Sora's memories, but by the end she's erased from those memories. Outside of this game, Namine does pose somewhat of a threat to the Axel/Roxas ship in KH2, but doesn't seem to get nearly as much ship-tease as Xion did in Days.
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***Even worse he was originally going to be a [[UnfortunateImplications she.]]
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*** Agreed. And besides, no one wants to miss an opportunity to compare Axel with [[FullmetalAlchemist Roy Mustang]].
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*** Agreed. And besides, no one wants to miss an opportunity to compare Axel with [[FullmetalAlchemist [[Manga/FullmetalAlchemist Roy Mustang]].
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** Naminé's a special case. DiZ said so himself in VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII
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** The same reason why Roxas is voiced by Jesse McCartney: [[MST3KMantra Why not?]]
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* If Naminé is as much of a MarySue (deconstruction) as [[spoiler: Xion]], then why don't the shippers hate her as much?
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** The same reason why Roxas is voiced by Jesse McCartney: [[MST3KMantra Why not?]]
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** Repliku and [[spoiler:Xion]] are two completely different things. For Repliku, he was made by Vexen to fuck with Riku, then when he learned about Sora and Namine's control over him, he decided to use him to fuck with Sora instead, so he used Sora's own memories and threw them in so that it would be more than just an image, but a clone that though it was the real Riku. Then Namine smashed Vexen's handiwork after Sora's last fight with him, and then Riku killed him after Axel spurred Repliku on to kill him and Zexion. All this happened in the span of a week, if Sora's sealing happened the day Roxas went into his first coma. As for [[spoiler: Xion, she was a cross between a Nobody, a Replica, and whatever the hell Roxas and Namine were, made to channel the powers of a Keyblade and act as something to double Roxas' workload and collect more hearts. Originally, it was supposed to be the base form seen in the final boss fight for ''Days'', only guised with the Organization's cloak so as not to reveal it as a puppet to anyone Xemnas didn't trust. When Xion started interacting with Roxas, Sora's influence took over her and made her take the form of Kairi's memory, creating what was basically a gender-swapped Roxas. It, which was now "she", began absorbing far too many memories through her experiences fighting Riku, and eventually, she learned what she was, went insane, and wished for suicide. When Roxas killed her, she fragmented in two ways. One part went back to Sora for memory reconstruction, the other went to Roxas in the form of Ven's heart. All this happened in the span of nearly a year.]] So as you can see, Repliku can't be reformed because he was a simple Replica, while [[spoiler: Xion was memories confined in the ''form'' of a Replica.]]
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**[[spoiler:Xemnas lied, Nobodies can grow their own hearts and feelings, presumably this is what happened with Organization XIII.]]
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** In-universe: Naminé tampered with it. Out-of-universe: DiscOneNuke.
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*** Agreed. And besides, no one wants to miss an opportunity to compare Axel with [[FullmetalAlchemist Roy Mustang]].
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*** As is the question of whether or not Sora even remembered (due to the effects of Naminé and CO) that attaching the charm to his Keyblade would result in a different form of the Keyblade. Of course, he might have still remembered early on (which would loop back into the original question), but the farther he progressed, the worse his memory of the events of the first game became.
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** Repliku... theoretically he could but his entire life was trying to be Riku. What purpose would it be to bring him back if his only goal in his existence can never be accomplished.
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** After you play Days, there's quite a bit of KickTheSonOfABitch associated with it. Vexen was, after all, in charge of the Replica Program, and when you see its results in Days, you can tell how much he deserved it.
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** After you play Days, Well, there's quite a bit of KickTheSonOfABitch associated with it. Vexen was, after all, in charge of the Replica Program, we see him sell out the Riku Replica in ''Reverse/Rebirth'', and when you see its the rest of the program's results in Days, ''Days'', you can tell how much he deserved it.
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** Axel is a MagnificentBastard in this game, meaning that nothing he does is good, but it's so ''cool'' regardless.
