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*** I think relationship meant just working for the man and not being in a romantic relationship.
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** Rewatching the animated sequence recently and looking out for this specific theory, I don't think O-Ren would have seen his face. The potential Bill performed the coup de grace on O-Ren's father and handed Boss Matsumoto his sword while standing right next to the bed, and as such she would have had to recognize him by his shoes if anything, even if he wasn't Bill. We get the benefit of camera angles to see everything happening, but O-Ren is stuck with a few degrees of vision from her hiding spot under the bed.
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** The fact that Bill lets the Bride kill him with hardly a fight and then go on to a happy ending with their daughter shows that Bill agrees he is the bad guy of the film and that Beatrix was right to not want [=BeeBee=] to grow up to be an international assassin. The only question is whether he had the HeelRealization before or after he pulled the trigger and nearly killed her at the wedding rehearsal. It would seem to be after.
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*Was it only me to whom it seemed that Bill pulled the trigger to shoot Beatrix earlier than he himself wanted? [[IncrediblyLamePun The trigger]] was the news about Bill being kid's father.
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*Is there even a way to handle an extremely aggressive snake like Black Mamba the way Elle did? Even if she somehow managed to put it asleep before placing it in the suitcase, she couldn't have known that after biting Budd the snake wouldn't attack ''herself''. Oh, and the snake lying still without any sound in a dark suitcase also doesn't look convincing...
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** There were plenty of dead bodies lying around that she could wipe the blood off the sword on.
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** The real question is not how The Bride got out of the coffin itself (after destroying the lid), but how she dug her way out of all that dirt that collapsed atop her when the lid shattered...
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** Budd told Elle that The Bride was sufficiently subdued so that he could easily finish her off if he or Elle wanted. So Elle either figured a) The Bride would probably die of whatever injuries Budd had to inflict on someone so inherently dangerous to put her in that condition before she got there, or b) killing a Bride who was already on the verge of death would be so anticlimactic, it would be utterly unsatisfying and a huge letdown, so Elle basically said to Budd "fuck it, kill the bitch, but make it painful". At that point, Elle, royally pissed at Budd for robbing her of her grand showdown with The Bride, decides to off him, so that she gets at least ''some'' satisfaction in killing a hated enemy, even if it's one she doesn't respect.
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***I assumed she killed the assassin, possibly with Bill's assistance and she gave him the ring, or its a ring common to swordsmen assassins.
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** It seemed Budd felt somewhat disgusted by the assassin life after the El Paso massacre and probably had his falling out with Bill at least partially due to that event.
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* All this talk about Budd being a douchebag seems true until you remember what he says to The Bride as she's [[spoiler:lying in the coffin]]: "This... is for breaking my brother's heart"; he really does believe that they all deserve to die, but family comes before everything and, as said in the WMG page, he probably did see [[spoiler:Elle killing him]] coming, but couldn't live with the guilt of [[spoiler:killing The Bride]] in such a deceitful way, so allowed it to happen... or maybe this is FridgeBrilliance?
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* All this talk about Budd being a douchebag seems true until you remember what he says to The Bride as she's [[spoiler:lying lying in the coffin]]: coffin: "This... is for breaking my brother's heart"; he really does believe that they all deserve to die, but family comes before everything and, as said in the WMG page, he probably did see [[spoiler:Elle Elle killing him]] him coming, but couldn't live with the guilt of [[spoiler:killing killing The Bride]] Bride in such a deceitful way, so allowed it to happen... or maybe this is FridgeBrilliance?
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* The Bride's hair in Volume 2. is a conundrum for me. Up through the big fight with Elle, her hair is quite long. Afterwards,during her visit with Esteban and the final confrontation with Bill, her hair has shortened to a bob. OK, one could argue she got an offscreen haircut. But then when we see her with [[spoiler:BB at the motel]], her hair is back to being as long as it was at the start of the movie. I find it hard to believe that much time had passed between scenes. Obviously very small, but it just bugs me.
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* The Bride's hair in Volume 2. is a conundrum for me. Up through the big fight with Elle, her hair is quite long. Afterwards,during her visit with Esteban and the final confrontation with Bill, her hair has shortened to a bob. OK, one could argue she got an offscreen haircut. But then when we see her with [[spoiler:BB BB at the motel]], motel, her hair is back to being as long as it was at the start of the movie. I find it hard to believe that much time had passed between scenes. Obviously very small, but it just bugs me.
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** Also, there's a theory that all of Tarantino's films are all under one shared universe that is branched off somewhere from our own (much like how the ''Star Trek'' TV series has a regular universe and a Mirror Universe), that somewhere in our past, the reality of Tarantino's universe branched off from ours, and that what sets it apart is that it's more violent than our reality (which would explain how in ''Inglourious Basterds'' Adolf Hilter [[spoiler:dies in a movie theater at the hands of two U.S. soldiers and a Jewish woman seeking revenge instead of committing suicide in a bunker]] after he realized that he was about to go down). So, since this universe is populated with violent people throughout its history, it would make sense that a Japanese air flight service would allow for the carrying on of samurai swords (and even include sword holders on their seats for those carrying them).
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** Also, there's a theory that all of Tarantino's films are all under one shared universe that is branched off somewhere from our own (much like how the ''Star Trek'' TV series has a regular universe and a Mirror Universe), that somewhere in our past, the reality of Tarantino's universe branched off from ours, and that what sets it apart is that it's more violent than our reality (which would explain how in ''Inglourious Basterds'' Adolf Hilter [[spoiler:dies dies in a movie theater at the hands of two U.S. soldiers and a Jewish woman seeking revenge instead of committing suicide in a bunker]] bunker after he realized that he was about to go down). So, since this universe is populated with violent people throughout its history, it would make sense that a Japanese air flight service would allow for the carrying on of samurai swords (and even include sword holders on their seats for those carrying them).
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** Also, there's a theory that all of Tarantino's films are all under one shared universe that is branched off somewhere from our own (much like how the ''Star Trek'' TV series has a regular universe and a Mirror Universe), that somewhere in our past, the reality of Tarantino's universe branched off from ours, and that what sets it apart is that it's more violent than our reality (which would explain how in ''Inglourious Basterds'' Adolf Hilter dies in a movie theater at the hands of two U.S. soldiers and a Jewish woman seeking revenge instead of committing suicide in a bunker after he realized that he was about to go down). So, since this universe is populated with violent people throughout its history, it would make sense that a Japanese air flight service would allow for the carrying on of samurai swords (and even include sword holders on their seats for those carrying them).
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** Also, there's a theory that all of Tarantino's films are all under one shared universe that is branched off somewhere from our own (much like how the ''Star Trek'' TV series has a regular universe and a Mirror Universe), that somewhere in our past, the reality of Tarantino's universe branched off from ours, and that what sets it apart is that it's more violent than our reality (which would explain how in ''Inglourious Basterds'' Adolf Hilter dies [[spoiler:dies in a movie theater at the hands of two U.S. soldiers and a Jewish woman seeking revenge instead of committing suicide in a bunker bunker]] after he realized that he was about to go down). So, since this universe is populated with violent people throughout its history, it would make sense that a Japanese air flight service would allow for the carrying on of samurai swords (and even include sword holders on their seats for those carrying them).
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As in the span of time between the awakening and the plane, I highly doubt it was only a day (since her got herself money to dress herself and buy a plane ticket.
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* Not sure where the put this one, but there's one thing about the Blue Leaves showdown that bugs me to no end: before The Bride fights Gogo, she kills six or so members of Crazy 88, yet her katana stays completely pristine and stainless, there's not a single drop of blood on the blade. Guess this one can be chalked up as a goof.
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* Not sure where the to put this one, but there's one thing about the Blue Leaves showdown that bugs me to no end: before The Bride fights Gogo, she kills six or so members of Crazy 88, yet her katana stays completely pristine and stainless, there's not a single drop of blood on the blade. Guess this one can be chalked up as a goof.goof.
** Perhaps Hattori quality sword doesn't get stained easily, depending on how you cut.
** Perhaps Hattori quality sword doesn't get stained easily, depending on how you cut.
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** Also, there's a theory that all of Tarantino's films are all under one shared universe that is branched off somewhere from out our own (much like how the ''Star Trek'' TV series has a regular universe and a Mirror Universe), that somewhere in our past, the reality of Tarantino's universe branched off from ours, and that what sets it apart is that it's more violent than our reality (which would explain how in ''Inglourious Basterds'' Adolf Hilter dies in a movie theater at the hands of two U.S. soldiers and a Jewish woman seeking revenge instead of committing suicide in a bunker after he realized that he was about to go down). So, since this universe is populated with violent people throughout its history, it would make sense that a Japanese air flight service would allow for the carrying on of samurai swords (and even include sword holders on their seats for those carrying them).
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* More of a meta JBM, but why does everyone refer to Uma Thermon's character as "The Bride?" She has a name, just like everyone else, and its Beatrix Kiddo. I get that she was credited as "The Bride" in vol. 1 but she has a name.
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* More of a meta JBM, but why does everyone refer to Uma Thermon's Thurman's character as "The Bride?" She has a name, just like everyone else, and its Beatrix Kiddo. I get that she was credited as "The Bride" in vol. 1 but she has a name.
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** One argument I would like to make against the theory that the guy in the white suit was Bill is the fact that Bill is not Japanese. (At least not full Japanese, we don't know who his biological father might have been.) Admittedly I don't know much about Yakuza hiring standards, but considering [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain Boss Tanaka's disgust at O-Ren's takeover,]] it's not unreasonable to think there is some xenophobia in the organization. And even if Bill did work with the Yakuza, would he have been brought along on a job seemingly important enought that the boss was present? Without the right racial background, he might have been left to smaller jobs. For a real-life example of this kind of thing, look at [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kuklinski Richard Kuklinski AKA 'The Iceman']] who worked as a hitman for the Italian mob. (Yes, I know there are big differences between the Yakuza and the Mafia, but it was the only organized crime comparison I could think of off the top of my head.) Kuklinski was terrifyingly good at his job and received a measure of fear and respect from his employers because of it. However, because he was Polish instead of full-blooded Italian, he was never officially a member of any of the crime families and served more as an 'independent contractor' for all of them. Would Bill have been left to a similar role, assuming he was permitted to do any work with the Yakuza in the first place? If someone with more knowledge on the subject wants to chime in and correct me on any of this, feel free. I freely admit I'm no expert on the subject.
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** It's also possible Tommy knew and simply didn't mind. There are indeed stepparents out there who lovingly help raise their stepchildren, and Tommy did seem like a nice guy, if a bit dim.
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** It's cold enough to be snowing, cold slows circulation and blood loss. She falls on her back in the snow, allowing it to pack the wound. That would really slow things down.
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** Bill DID warn Vernita. She explicitly makes reference to Bill telling her Beatrix was incapable of reason.
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** Agreed with the second answer. It's just a funny way to show that Beatrix Kiddo is indeed The Bride's true name, by showing her in an elementary school class full of "kiddos" and participating in roll call.
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* Why didn't anybody bother warning Vernita Green that Beatrix was awake and hunting down the DVAS? Even if after leaving Sophie at the hospital she immediately took a direct flight to California and then drove straight to Vernita's house, that's an 11 hour flight, enough time for Bill to make a call.
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*** "Ungrateful"? He didn't get a scholarship, he was a ''trained killer''. Maybe he had a good long think after
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** Except that Bill clearly says "Elle, you're gonna have to abort the mission.", implying that he was the one who sent her there to begin with.
** Probably Bill wasn't sure if the Bride was really in a coma or not until Elle was actually standing over her and she didn't react. If she's shown any sign whatsoever that she was starting to recover, Elle would've killed her then and there.
** Probably Bill wasn't sure if the Bride was really in a coma or not until Elle was actually standing over her and she didn't react. If she's shown any sign whatsoever that she was starting to recover, Elle would've killed her then and there.
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* A blogger on Website/YouTube suggested to me once that Pai Mei should have been around to punish Gogo for her insolence. WHY DID A FIGHT BETWEEN PAI MEI AND GOGO NOT HAPPEN?!
** Because they were in two entirely unrelated parts of the film and had absolutely nothing to do with each other, maybe?
** Johnny Mo is played by the same actor, but he's on Gogo's side.
** [[spoiler: Because Pai Mei was dead before the events of Kill Bill Vol. 1. Plus, he never met Gogo or O-Ren as far as we know, so he wouldn't have been there anyway.]]
* If Elle killed Budd, because she felt that the Bride deserved a better death than being buried alive, then why was her condition for meeting with Budd "She must suffer to her last breath"?
** Because they were in two entirely unrelated parts of the film and had absolutely nothing to do with each other, maybe?
** Johnny Mo is played by the same actor, but he's on Gogo's side.
** [[spoiler: Because Pai Mei was dead before the events of Kill Bill Vol. 1. Plus, he never met Gogo or O-Ren as far as we know, so he wouldn't have been there anyway.]]
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** Johnny Mo is played by the same actor, but he's on Gogo's side.
** [[spoiler: Because Pai Mei was dead before the events of Kill Bill Vol. 1. Plus, he never met Gogo or O-Ren as far as we know, so he wouldn't have been there anyway.]]
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** More importantly, if she was so eager to kill The Bride herself, why did she let Budd do it (or well, try to off her)? Elle could've just tell Budd to keep her alive until she could get there to finish the job.
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** More importantly, if she was so eager to kill The Bride herself, why did she let Budd do it (or well, try to off her)? Elle could've just tell Budd to keep her alive until she could get there to finish the job.
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** Vernita seems to have retired from killing. Bill might not be able to get ahold of her right away, or she might be trusting in her cover as a soccer mom to protect her. After all, Vernita isn't living the high life of a crime boss the way O-Ren was.
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** It's a shout-out to Clint Eastwood's "Man With No Name".
