History Headscratchers / KaitouSentaiLupinrangerVsKeisatsuSentaiPatranger

* Is it just me or does it feels like Lupinranger has way more importance to the show than the Patoranger makes me think what the point of Patoranger sometimes? I mean the Lupinrangers have a more driven goal, it feels like they are getting more promotions, more items and more upgrades sometimes (then again this particular point might change in the future) Goodie have more of their sympathy and genuine alliance, Noel seems to favor the Lupinrangers more than the Patorangers even though he is supposed to be a double agent in a way (Heck the Lupin Collection items he helped modified weren't even originally supposed to go the Patorangers, they were given to them without his permission and he is affiliated with the Lupin family) and they can be just invested in helping civilians and defeating the Ganglar even if they get the Collection piece from the Ganglar already. It sometimes feels like the Patorangers are there for comic relief or there just because. Protecting the innocent and public is something any random group and the Lupinranger can do without really needing to create a entire new Sentai team to do so and you don't need to create another super sentai team to give Lupinrangers rivals. Am I thinking about it too hard? Or am I jumping to conclusions too early?

** Exactly, while there IS a revelation about Noël, it's not as simple as "he's a spy"

** That's not a revelation, that's what the preview wanted you to think. Previews are not exactly a credible source of information, they often splice up scenes and dialogues in order to gather attention.

** well with the revelation that [[spoiler: Noel isn't human and is working with the Gangler's, it was something neither he nor Kogure wanted the Lupinrangers to find out]].

** The main page says that it can read personalities. Maybe they're afraid that their true motive will be revealed.

** But then that creates another question, why it is in Gauche's possession, and not Dogranio's?

* In Episode 32, although the power is not revealed just yet, Gauche's ''Gueris le Monde'' Lupin Collection seems to have an unseen power that's enough to scare Noel AND Kogure enough to imply that it's gonna be a nightmare to deal with. Kogure even stopped putting the Collections into his book and just take the remaining ones with his hand, and hurriedly leave. What kind of power it has that makes even the usually calm Kogure that worried?
** Maybe it's the most powerful pieces of the Lupin Collection, and if the Gangler has it in their possession, then they have to be prepared for anything.

* In Episode 32, although the power is not revealed just yet, Gauche's ''Gueris le Monde'' Lupin Collection seems to have an unseen power that's enough to scare Noel AND Kogure enough to imply that it's gonna be a nightmare to deal with. Kogure even stopped putting the Collections into his book and just take the remaining ones with his hand, and hurriedly leave. What kind of power it has that makes even the usually calm Kogure that worried?

* In Episode 28, isn't Noel's action rather risky? He basically admitted to supporting the thieves, even being proud at what he has created. Sure, toy leaks reveal he has an upgrade for the Patrangers as well, but....then the same toy catalogue also reveal he's going to "hijack" that, in his Lupin X persona too. is he going to become a full-time thief instead of a double agent?

** I am also getting tired of people saying "oh, they have equal amount of focus episodes, Patorangers aren't being shafted." It still doesn't hide the fact that Lupinranger have more overall importance to the plot and with the way the Patorangers are portrayed and used, they can be easily replaced without someone or something else and nothing major will be lost.

** I am also getting tired of people saying "oh, they have equal amount of focus episodes, Patorangers aren't being shafted." It still doesn't hide the fact that Lupinranger have more overall importance to the plot and with the way the Patorangers are portrayed and used, they can be easily replaced without something or something else and nothing major will be lost.

* Is it just me or does it feels like Lupinranger has way more importance to the show than the Patoranger makes me think what the point of Patoranger sometimes? I mean the Lupinrangers have a more driven goal, it feels like they are getting more promotions, more items and more upgrades sometimes (then again this particular point might change in the future) Goodie have more of their sympathy and genuine alliance, Noel seems to favor the Lupinrangers more than the Patorangers even though he is supposed to be a double agent in a way (Heck the Lupin Collection items he helped modified weren't even originally supposed to go the Patorangers, they were given to them without his permission and he is affiliated with the Lupin family) and they can be just invested in helping civilians and defeating the Ganglar even if they get the Collection piece from the Ganglar already. It sometimes feels like the Patorangers are there for comic relief or there just because. Protecting the innocent and public is something any random group and the Lupinranger can do without really needing to create a entire new Sentai team to do so and you don't need to create another super sentai team to give Lupingrangers rivals. Am I thinking about it too hard? Or am I jumping to conclusions too early?

* Is it just me or does it feels like Lupinranger has way more importance to the show than the Patoranger makes me think what the point of Patoranger sometimes? I mean the Lupinrangers have a more driven goal, it feels like they are getting more promotions, more items and more upgrades sometimes (then again this particular point might change in the future) Goodie have more of their sympathy and genuine alliance, Noel seems to favor the Lupinrangers more than the Patorangers even though he is supposed to be a double agent in a way (Heck the Lupin Collection items he helped modified weren't even originally supposed to go the Patorangers, they were given to them without his permission) and they can be just invested in helping civilians and defeating the Ganglar even if they get the Collection piece if pushed or it is within their interest. It sometimes feels like the Patorangers are there for comic relief or there just because. Protecting the innocent and public is something any random group and the Lupinranger can do without really needing to create a entire new Sentai team to do so and you don't need to create another super sentai team to give Lupingrangers rivals. Am I thinking about it too hard? Or am I jumping to conclusions too early?

** I think it would just only complicated matters. Suppose the police knows that the Collections are supposed to granting wish, I think they would just to confiscate it instead. They are cops, it's their duty to protect the citizens, and the collections are too dangerous to be trusted to the hand of unknown thieves with unknown motivations (from their side POV anyway).

** Would the Patrangers believe them? They have a duty as police officer and the Lupinranger are breaking the law no matter the cause and even is Keiichiro has lighten up a bit, that doesn't mean they will trust the words of a bunch of thieves. They don't fully trust Good Striker or Noel, either. So even if they did that the chances are still 50/50

* So here's a question (might be dumb but I'm asking anyways). If the Lupinrangers want the Lupin Collection, why not had Good Striker, or even Noel for that matter, tell the Patrongers about them, and give them an insight on how they're important? Hell, have one of them in their transformed state make a mention that they need them to rescue their loved ones, and even asking them to hold off blowing up the monsters until they collect a piece.

** I'm operating under the theory that Noel's goal is to get both teams to work together for....reasons. Going off that, his gambit here does a few things: A) Shows both teams "I know who you all are, and you can't say the same, so I'm going to help with that." B) Highlights that he's capable of using the tricks of both teams, and can do the work of three by himself, or the standard sixth practice of being overpowered at their debut. C) It gets both teams asking questions and potentially breaking the status quo.

** Difficult, but here's two reasons I came up with. 1) He wanted to prove to Kairi that he was Lupin X by doing tricks and parkour, as the Lupinrangers were skilled in it. 2) A weird, and possibly silly, excuse to introduce himself to the Patorangers.

* Noel is an undercover agent and came specially from [=GSPO=]'s Undercover Unit. He blows his cover in his debut episode. Why?

* So... why was Umika wasn't affected by the dream world in #17?

** It was probably an off-screen camera crane. They ''were'' in the middle of a shoot, after all.

** I wonder about that too. There's female Sakuya in Rune Factory 3, for example.

* It could be chalked up to RuleOfCool but do the Lupinrangers literally hanging on thin air in episode 11? I'm talking when they use the wire to hang on (the sky?) so the MoTW couldn't make them slip on the ground.

* So in episode 11, after the Patrangers get [[GenderBender genderbent]] the movie narrator comes up with new names for them to match. He notices that the name Tsukasa would [[GenderBlenderName work either way]], but wouldn't Sakuya's name also work?

** Episode 7 explains that Goodie has his own agenda independent to whatever Kogure is up to. He is the protector of the Lupin collection and since the Lupins are the ones stealing it back they get preferential treatment over the Patrangers.

** Goodie seems to view the entire thing as one giant game. Doing that would leave one team unable to play. As such I think it's honestly one of the few things he ''won't'' do.

* Why the Lupinrangers aren't worried that their identities might be compromised by Goodie? He already saw them out of suits and given how whimsical he was, he might ended up telling the Patrangers.