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*** So Column C then, the FlashedBadgeHijack? I mean, I know it’s not a direct example, but it’s the best I could find - using the authority of the police to utilize another’s property to handle a severe criminal situation.

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*** So Column C then, the FlashedBadgeHijack? I mean, I know it’s not a direct example, but it’s the best I could find - using the authority of the police to utilize another’s property to handle a severe criminal situation.situation.
* Why the Lupinrangers aren't worried that their identities might be compromised by Goodie? He already saw them out of suits and given how whimsical he was, he might ended up telling the Patrangers.
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** I don't know why there's no CCTV, but her "little secret" wouldn't be safe either way since the CCTV would also record her nearly sensual attraction towards the plush doll.
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** I'm more questioning why it seems Hilltop's team wasn't well-informed about the dangers that the Collection possess. They found out about the Collections' power just recently, and it seems there is still no information about what would happen if a Collection is destroyed. Knowing the immense power that Collections possess, the result might not gonna be good, yet Patrangers are destroying Ganglers without any care for the Collection the Ganglers stored inside their safe.
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*** So Column C then?

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*** So Column C then?then, the FlashedBadgeHijack? I mean, I know it’s not a direct example, but it’s the best I could find - using the authority of the police to utilize another’s property to handle a severe criminal situation.
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Just chipping in on the discussion I started (and thanks for the formatting fix).


*** Likely a little of column A, and B. While Keiichiro is being a hypocrite, he rationalizes it by believing in the authority the Patrangers have to protect the planet. As far as he's concerned, he can't trust the Lupinrangers because he doesn't know their motives, nor their plans for the Collection. However as Kairi correctly points out, he's only ''slightly'' better then the Gangler, due to still using something that's not his.

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*** Likely a little of column A, and B. While Keiichiro is being a hypocrite, he rationalizes it by believing in the authority the Patrangers have to protect the planet. As far as he's concerned, he can't trust the Lupinrangers because he doesn't know their motives, nor their plans for the Collection. However as Kairi correctly points out, he's only ''slightly'' better then the Gangler, due to still using something that's not his.his.
**** So Column C then?

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Given that this is in response to [=LupinRed=], a criminal who he probably doesn't trust with the Collection's power, it's hard to say.

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** Given that this is in response to [=LupinRed=], a criminal who he probably doesn't trust with the Collection's power, it's hard to say.say.
*** Likely a little of column A, and B. While Keiichiro is being a hypocrite, he rationalizes it by believing in the authority the Patrangers have to protect the planet. As far as he's concerned, he can't trust the Lupinrangers because he doesn't know their motives, nor their plans for the Collection. However as Kairi correctly points out, he's only ''slightly'' better then the Gangler, due to still using something that's not his.
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Adding some possible Alternative Interpetations to Keiichiro's outburst in Ep. 5. I was going to put this under YMMV, but figured it was too fridge-y for that, yet not solid enough for the Fridge page. But...yeah. I don't think the statement was meant to paint him as a hypocrite.


* I was wondering, in episode 4, how come there are no CCTV installed in a crime-fighting facility as important as GSPO station? Had them installed one inside the Patranger's control room, they would quickly figure out why Tsukasa's missing, and her "little secret" would be safe. Is there any written law about that in Japan? Would anyone know about Japan or living in Japan confirm this?

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* I was wondering, in episode 4, how come there are no CCTV installed in a crime-fighting facility as important as GSPO station? Had them installed one inside the Patranger's control room, they would quickly figure out why Tsukasa's missing, and her "little secret" would be safe. Is there any written law about that in Japan? Would anyone know about Japan or living in Japan confirm this?this?
* Keiichiro in Episode 5. Is his statement "This is a tool used by the Global Police used to protect the world!" a case of [[{{Hypocrite}} Hypocrisy]]? Is he in denial that his Trigger Machine and VS Changer are actually stolen from the Lupin Estate? Or does he simply see his use of the Changer and Machine as something like a long-term FlashedBadgeHijack, given just how big a threat the Gangler are?
Given that this is in response to [=LupinRed=], a criminal who he probably doesn't trust with the Collection's power, it's hard to say.
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** Right, I thought that might be the case, I just wanted to make certain.

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** Right, I thought that might be the case, I just wanted to make certain.certain.
* I was wondering, in episode 4, how come there are no CCTV installed in a crime-fighting facility as important as GSPO station? Had them installed one inside the Patranger's control room, they would quickly figure out why Tsukasa's missing, and her "little secret" would be safe. Is there any written law about that in Japan? Would anyone know about Japan or living in Japan confirm this?
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** It's likely to be a plot point at some point.

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** It's likely to be a plot point at some point.point.
** Right, I thought that might be the case, I just wanted to make certain.
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* Quick question. The VS Vehicles are Collection pieces too right? Because if so, then we need to have a talk about how many seem to be in ''police'' hands.

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* Quick question. The VS Vehicles are Collection pieces too right? Because if so, then we need to have a talk about how many seem to be in ''police'' hands.hands.
** It's likely to be a plot point at some point.
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** That's actually a toy catalog not meant to be seen by the public. Toei/Bandai send them out to retailers so they know what's coming up and thus what they're going to be selling/advertising/making room for. We just get them leaked when they come out. As a fun fact, there are usually four, the first covers the initial Rangers, and all their gear. The second is secondary gear/mecha, or the sixth in shows that debut them early. The third is usually the power up item, and movie mecha if there's one and the sixth, if he/she/they haven't been shown yet, and the last is the "big" mecha, like Orion Battler, or Cube Whale, or what have you and anything else. The scans in question are from number 2.

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** That's actually a toy catalog not meant to be seen by the public. Toei/Bandai send them out to retailers so they know what's coming up and thus what they're going to be selling/advertising/making room for. We just get them leaked when they come out. As a fun fact, there are usually four, the first covers the initial Rangers, and all their gear. The second is secondary gear/mecha, or the sixth in shows that debut them early. The third is usually the power up item, and movie mecha if there's one and the sixth, if he/she/they haven't been shown yet, and the last is the "big" mecha, like Orion Battler, or Cube Whale, or what have you and anything else. The scans in question are from number 2.2.
* Quick question. The VS Vehicles are Collection pieces too right? Because if so, then we need to have a talk about how many seem to be in ''police'' hands.
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*** As of right now (Episode 4) the greater power would probably be GoodStriker

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*** As of right now (Episode 4) the greater power would probably be GoodStriker[=GoodStriker=]
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*** As of right now (Episode 4) the greater power would probably be GoodStriker
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*** Besides the fact that they share a transformation device, which in itself is not that unusual, there's the whole hidden meaning behind what "VS" means in this universe, down to why both teams each have emblems with one letter or the other on their gear, how the Pats can use the Good Striker at all, as you would expect only the Lupinranger to, and why their powers seem to be so evenly mirrored. One team combines, the other duplicates. One flies, the other drives. It honestly seems as if both teams were ''designed'' to purposefully counter each other, but from what we've learned from scans, it seems that both teams were created independently of one another. I'm certain there's an explanation but at the moment it just appears suspect.

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*** Besides the fact that they share a transformation device, which in itself is not that unusual, there's the whole hidden meaning behind what "VS" means in this universe, down to why both teams each have emblems with one letter or the other on their gear, how the Pats can use the Good Striker at all, as you would expect only the Lupinranger to, and why their powers seem to be so evenly mirrored. One team combines, the other duplicates. One flies, the other drives. It honestly seems as if both teams were ''designed'' to purposefully counter each other, but from what we've learned from scans, it seems that both teams were created independently of one another. I'm certain there's an explanation but at the moment it just appears suspect. EDIT: Same poster here. With the reveal of the new ranger, something fishy is definitely going on.
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** That's actually a toy catalog not meant to be seen by the public. Toei/Bandai send them out to retailers so they know what's coming up and thus what they're going to be selling/advertising/making room for. We just get them leaked when they come out. As a fun fact, there are usually four, the first covers the initial Rangers, and all their gear. The second is secondary gear/mecha, or the sixth in shows that debut them early. The third is usually the power up item, and movie mecha if there's one, and the last is the "big" mecha, like Orion Battler, or Cube Whale, or what have you. The scans in question are from number 2.

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** That's actually a toy catalog not meant to be seen by the public. Toei/Bandai send them out to retailers so they know what's coming up and thus what they're going to be selling/advertising/making room for. We just get them leaked when they come out. As a fun fact, there are usually four, the first covers the initial Rangers, and all their gear. The second is secondary gear/mecha, or the sixth in shows that debut them early. The third is usually the power up item, and movie mecha if there's one, one and the sixth, if he/she/they haven't been shown yet, and the last is the "big" mecha, like Orion Battler, or Cube Whale, or what have you.you and anything else. The scans in question are from number 2.
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** That's actually a toy catalog not meant to be seen by the public. Toei/Bandai send them out to retailers so they know what's coming up and thus what they're going to be selling/advertising/making room for. We just get them leaked when they come out. As a fun fact, there are usually four, the first covers the initial Rangers, and all their gear. The second is secondary gear/mecha, or the sixth in shows that debut them early. The third is usually the power up item, and movie mecha if there's one, and the last is the "big" mecha, like Orion Battler, or Cube Whale, or what have you.

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** That's actually a toy catalog not meant to be seen by the public. Toei/Bandai send them out to retailers so they know what's coming up and thus what they're going to be selling/advertising/making room for. We just get them leaked when they come out. As a fun fact, there are usually four, the first covers the initial Rangers, and all their gear. The second is secondary gear/mecha, or the sixth in shows that debut them early. The third is usually the power up item, and movie mecha if there's one, and the last is the "big" mecha, like Orion Battler, or Cube Whale, or what have you. The scans in question are from number 2.
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* Magazine scans for this season had a picture of an upcoming hero, [[spoiler:who is looking to be a double agent]]. Why put in a new hero in a magazine scan when the show hasn't even started yet?

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* Magazine scans for this season had a picture of an upcoming hero, [[spoiler:who is looking to be a double agent]]. Why put in a new hero in a magazine scan when the show hasn't even started yet?yet?
** That's actually a toy catalog not meant to be seen by the public. Toei/Bandai send them out to retailers so they know what's coming up and thus what they're going to be selling/advertising/making room for. We just get them leaked when they come out. As a fun fact, there are usually four, the first covers the initial Rangers, and all their gear. The second is secondary gear/mecha, or the sixth in shows that debut them early. The third is usually the power up item, and movie mecha if there's one, and the last is the "big" mecha, like Orion Battler, or Cube Whale, or what have you.
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*** The Lupins are billed first, so they likely got the colors that are on almost every team. As for two reds, well, the last time there was a team without a red was the [[Series/NinjaSentaiKakuranger Hanarangers]], who were PsychoRangers.

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*** The Lupins are billed first, so they likely got the colors that are on almost every team. As for two reds, well, the last time there was a team without a red was the [[Series/NinjaSentaiKakuranger Hanarangers]], who were PsychoRangers.PsychoRangers.
* Magazine scans for this season had a picture of an upcoming hero, [[spoiler:who is looking to be a double agent]]. Why put in a new hero in a magazine scan when the show hasn't even started yet?
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** Besides, it's actually G.S.P.O.: Global Special Police ''Organization''.

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** Maybe when the powers were created for both teams, the lupin were made first, and thus got the color? Although that wouldn't explain two reds...

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** Maybe when the powers were created for both teams, the lupin Lupin were made first, and thus got the color? Although that wouldn't explain two reds...reds...
*** The Lupins are billed first, so they likely got the colors that are on almost every team. As for two reds, well, the last time there was a team without a red was the [[Series/NinjaSentaiKakuranger Hanarangers]], who were PsychoRangers.

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* I know I'm just nitpicking here but, why isn't the blue ranger on the Patranger line-up? Considering how common is to associate said color with law enforcements.

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* I know I'm just nitpicking here but, why isn't the blue ranger on the Patranger line-up? Considering how common is to associate said color with law enforcements.
** Maybe when the powers were created for both teams, the lupin were made first, and thus got the color? Although that wouldn't explain two reds...
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* I know I'm just nickpicking here but, why isn't the blue ranger on the Patranger line-up? Considering how common is to associate said color with law enforcements.

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* I know I'm just nickpicking nitpicking here but, why isn't the blue ranger on the Patranger line-up? Considering how common is to associate said color with law enforcements.
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** It's not out of the question, but unlikely that they're allied with the S.P.D from Dekaranger - the S.P.D from Dekaranger stood for "Special Police Dekaranger". [='G.S.P.D'=] stands for Global Special Police Department.

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** It's not out of the question, but unlikely that they're allied with the S.P.D from Dekaranger - the S.P.D from Dekaranger stood for "Special Police Dekaranger". [='G.S.P.D'=] stands for Global Special Police Department.Department.
* I know I'm just nickpicking here but, why isn't the blue ranger on the Patranger line-up? Considering how common is to associate said color with law enforcements.
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*** Besides the fact that they share a transformation device, which in itself is not that unusual, there's the whole hidden meaning behind what "VS" means in this universe, down to why both teams each have emblems with one letter or the other on their gear, how the Pats can use the Good Striker at all, as you would expect only the Lupinranger to, and why their powers seem to be so evenly mirrored. One team combines, the other duplicates. One flies, the other drives. It honestly seems as if both teams were ''designed'' to purposefully counter each other, but from what we've learned from scans, it seems that both teams were created independently of one another. I'm certain there's an explanation but at the moment it just appears suspect. N

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*** Besides the fact that they share a transformation device, which in itself is not that unusual, there's the whole hidden meaning behind what "VS" means in this universe, down to why both teams each have emblems with one letter or the other on their gear, how the Pats can use the Good Striker at all, as you would expect only the Lupinranger to, and why their powers seem to be so evenly mirrored. One team combines, the other duplicates. One flies, the other drives. It honestly seems as if both teams were ''designed'' to purposefully counter each other, but from what we've learned from scans, it seems that both teams were created independently of one another. I'm certain there's an explanation but at the moment it just appears suspect. N
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*** Besides the fact that they share a transformation device, which in itself is not that unusual, there's the whole hidden meaning behind what "VS" means in this universe, down to why both teams each have emblems with one letter or the other on their gear, how the Pats can use the Good Striker at all, as you would expect only the Lupinranger to, and why their powers seem to be so evenly mirrored. One team combines, the other duplicates. One flies, the other drives. It honestly seems as if both teams were created to ''purposefully'' counter each other, but from what we've learned from scans, it seems that both teams were created independently of one another. I'm certain there's an explanation but at the moment it just appears suspect.

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*** Besides the fact that they share a transformation device, which in itself is not that unusual, there's the whole hidden meaning behind what "VS" means in this universe, down to why both teams each have emblems with one letter or the other on their gear, how the Pats can use the Good Striker at all, as you would expect only the Lupinranger to, and why their powers seem to be so evenly mirrored. One team combines, the other duplicates. One flies, the other drives. It honestly seems as if both teams were created ''designed'' to ''purposefully'' purposefully counter each other, but from what we've learned from scans, it seems that both teams were created independently of one another. I'm certain there's an explanation but at the moment it just appears suspect. N
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*** Besides the fact that they share a transformation device, which in itself is not that unusual, there's the whole hidden meaning behind what "VS" means in this universe, down to why both teams each have emblems with one letter or the other on their gear, how the Pats can use the Good Striker at all, as you would expect only the Lupinranger to, and why their powers seem to be so evenly mirrored. One team combines, the other duplicates. One flies, the other drives. It honestly seems as if both teams were created to ''purposefully'' counter each other, but from what we've learned from scans, it seems that both teams were created independently of one another. I'm certain there's an explanation but at the moment it just appears suspect.
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**I'm hoping this isn't straight Natter, but... can you elaborate on what seems "odd"?
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* Could the allies of the Patrolrangers being called [='G.S.P.D'=] be a sign that they're allied with the S.P.D. from Dekaranger? And if so, does this mean this season is back in the main Sentai universe?

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* Could the allies of the Patrolrangers being called [='G.S.P.D'=] be a sign that they're allied with the S.P.D. from Dekaranger? And if so, does this mean this season is back in the main Sentai universe?universe?
** It's not out of the question, but unlikely that they're allied with the S.P.D from Dekaranger - the S.P.D from Dekaranger stood for "Special Police Dekaranger". [='G.S.P.D'=] stands for Global Special Police Department.
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** I'd argue it depends on if they join together or not. It should be two, but there seems to be something odd about their powers in universe.

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** I'd argue it depends on if they join together or not. It should be two, but there seems to be something odd about their powers in universe.universe.
* Could the allies of the Patrolrangers being called [='G.S.P.D'=] be a sign that they're allied with the S.P.D. from Dekaranger? And if so, does this mean this season is back in the main Sentai universe?
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* I know the odds of it being addressed are slim to none, but I might as well ask: Is there going to be a Greater Power for each team (in other words, two for this season), or are the two teams going to share one?
** I'd argue it depends on if they join together or not. It should be two, but there seems to be something odd about their powers in universe.

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