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* If you aren't allowed to try and murder people while inside the hotel and John respects the rules. Why didn't Iosef just rent a room and order room service while waiting for dads mooks to kill Mr. Wick?

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* If you aren't allowed to try and murder people while inside the hotel and John respects the rules. Why rules, why didn't Iosef just rent a room and order room service while waiting for dads dad's mooks to kill Mr. Wick?



* How come Viggo hasn't told Iosef who John Wick is and why he should be left alone? Seriously, all Viggo had to do to prevent this was to tell Iosef: "John Wick is our former assassin, and an extremely capable one at that. He's out of the organization now, which he earned, and we're leaving him alone. He will not rat us out or do anything to harm us as long as we leave him alone or treat him with respect"

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* How come Viggo hasn't told Iosef who John Wick is and why he should be left alone? Seriously, all Viggo had to do to prevent this was to tell Iosef: "John Wick is our former assassin, and an extremely capable one at that. He's out of the organization now, which he earned, and we're leaving him alone. He will not rat us out or do anything to harm us as long as we leave him alone or treat him with respect"respect."



** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered John's face or address. And even if he did he'd probably write him off as a washed up retiree.
** He might have mentioned it casually during some conversations, just never had an extensive conversation about him because he was just a former employee, in the end, however good, and Iosef doesn't look like Iosef actually had any role in the organization, he just enjoyed the perks of being Viggo's son. Also, they don't look like they have a very close relationship, so I also guest they don't really talk very much (Viggo's disappointed by his son at the very least).

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** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered learn/remember John's face or address. And even if he did he'd probably write him off as a washed up retiree.
** He might have mentioned it casually during some conversations, just never had an extensive conversation about him because he was just a former employee, employee in the end, however good, and Iosef doesn't look like Iosef he actually had any role in the organization, he just enjoyed the perks of being Viggo's son. Also, they don't look like they have a very close relationship, so I also guest guess they don't really talk very much (Viggo's disappointed by his son at the very least).



** It is more likely that it wasn't a cop. Rather, it was a security guard for a gated community. Hence his getting their so quickly and knowing Wick personally, as well as his "business".

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** It is more likely that it wasn't a cop. Rather, it was a security guard for a gated community. Hence his getting their there so quickly and knowing Wick personally, as well as his "business".
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** While the above was probably meant as a joke, since the cop seems to know John personally and by reputation, it's entirely possible that, once he heard WHERE the ruckus was, he responded on the double to keep the whole thing from getting even worse.

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** While the above was probably meant as a joke, since the cop seems to know John personally and by reputation, it's entirely possible that, once he heard WHERE the ruckus was, he responded on the double to keep the whole thing from getting even worse.worse.
** It is more likely that it wasn't a cop. Rather, it was a security guard for a gated community. Hence his getting their so quickly and knowing Wick personally, as well as his "business".
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* Since when do police respond so quickly to noise complaints?

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* Since when do police respond so quickly to noise complaints?complaints?
** While the above was probably meant as a joke, since the cop seems to know John personally and by reputation, it's entirely possible that, once he heard WHERE the ruckus was, he responded on the double to keep the whole thing from getting even worse.
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** Viggo did say John wasn't actually the 'Boogeyman' but what you sent to kill it! Maybe Viggo felt that naming John after what he considered the scariest thing in Russian fairy tales was fitting.

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** Viggo did say John wasn't actually the 'Boogeyman' but what you sent to kill it! Maybe Viggo felt that naming John after what he considered the scariest thing in Russian fairy tales was fitting.fitting.
* Since when do police respond so quickly to noise complaints?

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*** When Viggo calls John, he pulls a book (ostensibly full of contact info for people like Wick) out of a safe, in which we see a bunch of coins just like the ones Wick has, so Iosef ''does'' have access. Presumably Viggo figured putting his kid in a building full of professional killers who weren't on his payroll was less safe than putting him in a building he owns where every guy with a gun works for him.



** We see multiple people talking with John, telling him how they've never seen him this emotionally demonstrative or this vulnerable. [[CaptainObvious He's emotionally involved in this hunt]], and that, plus his multiple-year retirement seems to throw him off his game enough he didn't immediately pull the trigger. After that, I figure the guy he had pinned to the floor started struggling, by which time Iosef was already in motion.



** Cheap radios?



*** Exactly. John left more than five years previously, when Viggo was ostensibly still a little fish in the pond, and was known to be retired and out of the game. Not only would Viggo probably hesitate to dredge up what he thought was ancient history and refer to a time when his organization was weak (thus preventing Iosef from knowing anything about John), the sheer odds that ''the one guy Iosef would decide to mess with'' would be John Wick were so astronomical that Viggo actually mentioned it during that first one-sided phone call he had with John. Plus, even if Iosef did ever hear about this guy, would Viggo have a picture of him up on the wall with the caption "Run like Hell"? Even if he knew about John, Iosef wouldn't know what he looked like.



** He might have mentioned it casually during some conversations, just never had an extensive conversation about him because he was just a former emplyer, in the end, however good, and Iosef doesn't look like Iosef actually had any role in the organization, he just enjoyed the perks of being Viggo's son. Also, they don't look like they have a very close relationship, so I also guest they don't really talk very much (Viggo's disappointed by his son at the very least).

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** He might have mentioned it casually during some conversations, just never had an extensive conversation about him because he was just a former emplyer, employee, in the end, however good, and Iosef doesn't look like Iosef actually had any role in the organization, he just enjoyed the perks of being Viggo's son. Also, they don't look like they have a very close relationship, so I also guest they don't really talk very much (Viggo's disappointed by his son at the very least).
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** He might have mentioned it casually during some conversations, just never had an extensive conversation about him because he was just a former emplyer, in the end, however good, and Iosef doesn't look like Iosef actually had any role in the organization, he just enjoyed the perks of being Viggo's son. Also, they don't look like they have a very close relationship, so I also guest they don't really talk very much (Viggo's disappointed by his son at the very least).

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* It seems they had a Russian consultant. Why are a lot of lines in Russian so disconnected from their subtitles? There were no reason for loose translations in those cases. Also: calling a badass assassin Baba Yaga - witch from a fairy tale - when there is a word "Booka" ("бука") which literally means Boogeyman. Were they going for a "wicked witch" stealth pun?

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* It seems they had a Russian consultant. Why are a lot of lines in Russian so disconnected from their subtitles? There were no reason for loose translations in those cases. Also: calling a badass assassin Baba Yaga - witch from a fairy tale - when there is a word "Booka" ("бука") which literally means Boogeyman. Were they going for a "wicked witch" stealth pun?pun?
**Viggo did say John wasn't actually the 'Boogeyman' but what you sent to kill it! Maybe Viggo felt that naming John after what he considered the scariest thing in Russian fairy tales was fitting.
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* It seems they had a Russian consultant. Why are a lot of lines in Russian so disconnected from their subtitles? Rhere were no reason for loose translations in those cases. Also: calling a badass assassin Baba Yaga - witch from a fairy tale - when there is a word "Booka" ("бука") which literally means Boogeyman. Were they going for a "wicked witch" stealth pun?

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* It seems they had a Russian consultant. Why are a lot of lines in Russian so disconnected from their subtitles? Rhere There were no reason for loose translations in those cases. Also: calling a badass assassin Baba Yaga - witch from a fairy tale - when there is a word "Booka" ("бука") which literally means Boogeyman. Were they going for a "wicked witch" stealth pun?
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** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered John's face or address. And even if he did he'd probably write him off as a washed up retiree.

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** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered John's face or address. And even if he did he'd probably write him off as a washed up retiree.retiree.
* It seems they had a Russian consultant. Why are a lot of lines in Russian so disconnected from their subtitles? Rhere were no reason for loose translations in those cases. Also: calling a badass assassin Baba Yaga - witch from a fairy tale - when there is a word "Booka" ("бука") which literally means Boogeyman. Were they going for a "wicked witch" stealth pun?
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** It's a common problem when a group is fighting an individual. The members of the group have to watch out for each other while the individual knows that EVERYONE else is a target. Combine that with an unfamiliar and dark house, and it is a significant advantage for John.
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** The rule as stated is that no one may conduct business there. As in, contract killings. It is possible that a purely personal matter may be forgiven if management is agreeable.
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** Did you notice how the only currency changing hands in the hotel is the gold coin? If Iosef doesn't have any of those, which are apparently a currency that is exclusive to Wick and his tier of professional killers, then he wouldn't be able to use the services of the hotel even if he knows of the hotel's existence.
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** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered John's face or address. And even if he did he'd probably write him up as a washed up retiree.

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** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered John's face or address. And even if he did he'd probably write him up off as a washed up retiree.
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** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered John's face or name. And even if he did he'd probably wright him up as a washed up retiree.

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** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered John's face or name. address. And even if he did he'd probably wright write him up as a washed up retiree.
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** Best answer I can come up with is that Viggo just never considered to tell his son about John since he already left. No point talking about an ex-member. Besides, what were the chances that Iosef would run into the guy who made his dad's empire?

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** Best answer I can come up with is that Viggo just never considered to tell his son about John since he already left. No point talking about an ex-member. Besides, what were the chances that Iosef would run into the guy who made his dad's empire?empire?
** Iosef is the guy whom stole a random guy's car on a whim, killed that man's dog for making noise, and after actually being told who Wick is decided to laugh it up at a night club. Even if Iosef were told in advance it's extremely unlikely he'd have bothered to learned/remembered John's face or name. And even if he did he'd probably wright him up as a washed up retiree.
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** It's also entirely possible that Wick would break the rules to get at Iosef even if it meant his death, so getting a room there would really only serve to let him know where you're sleeping. Not only that, but he'd probably be denied bodyguards to minimize the chance of 'business' and most of the regulars know Wick well enough to either side with him or just stay out of his way.

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* How come Viggo hasn't told Iosef who John Wick is and why he should be left alone ? Seriously, all Viggo had to do to prevent this was to tell Iosef: "John Wick is our former assassin, and an extremely capable one at that. He's out of the organization now, which he earned, and we're leaving him alone. He will not rat us out or do anything to harm us as long as we leave him alone or treat him with respect"

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* How come Viggo hasn't told Iosef who John Wick is and why he should be left alone ? alone? Seriously, all Viggo had to do to prevent this was to tell Iosef: "John Wick is our former assassin, and an extremely capable one at that. He's out of the organization now, which he earned, and we're leaving him alone. He will not rat us out or do anything to harm us as long as we leave him alone or treat him with respect"respect"
** Best answer I can come up with is that Viggo just never considered to tell his son about John since he already left. No point talking about an ex-member. Besides, what were the chances that Iosef would run into the guy who made his dad's empire?
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** Maybe the guard was also American?

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** Maybe the guard was also American?American?
* How come Viggo hasn't told Iosef who John Wick is and why he should be left alone ? Seriously, all Viggo had to do to prevent this was to tell Iosef: "John Wick is our former assassin, and an extremely capable one at that. He's out of the organization now, which he earned, and we're leaving him alone. He will not rat us out or do anything to harm us as long as we leave him alone or treat him with respect"
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*** The mook was turning a corner into a new room. Most likely he was still trying to take in the situation but John moved too fast. Not to mention if you look closely, the mook's flashlight was reflecting off something in the hallway and John saw him coming long before he actually turned the corner.


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*** Or it could be that one of John's shots got through the windshield and hit the driver, causing him to lose control.
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*** RealityIs Unrealistic. It's very easy to lose control of a fight you should, by any means, [[CurbStompBattle win no problem]], simply because you weren't expecting something, like a gun, or a knife, or even just a guy lunging at you. And it can be somewhat difficult to get over the innate urge to swerve out of the way of hitting a pedestrian. So yeah, it's a little lucky, but fairly explainable, if not likely.

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*** RealityIs Unrealistic.RealityIsUnrealistic. It's very easy to lose control of a fight you should, by any means, [[CurbStompBattle win no problem]], simply because you weren't expecting something, like a gun, or a knife, or even just a guy lunging at you. And it can be somewhat difficult to get over the innate urge to swerve out of the way of hitting a pedestrian. So yeah, it's a little lucky, but fairly explainable, if not likely.
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*** RealityIs Unrealistic. It's very easy to lose control of a fight you should, by any means, [[CurbStompBattle win no problem]], simply because you weren't expecting something, like a gun, or a knife, or even just a guy lunging at you. And it can be somewhat difficult to get over the innate urge to swerve out of the way of hitting a pedestrian. So yeah, it's a little lucky, but fairly explainable, if not likely.
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**** It's pointed out on the main page that Wick is still pretty off his game at that point. Compare to the Red Circle fight.


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** Even if Iosef did qualify; you think he's smart enough to ''think'' of that? Heck, I'd be surprised if he even knows about the joint, given his ignorance of who Wick is.
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*** John did't have a grenade launcher, he has a combat shotgun. Maybe the driver just panicked ... there seems to be a long list of moments in this movie where John wins because of surprise or unpreparedness on the part of his adversaries.
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*** The mook shouldn't have been out of ammo; he wouldn't have fired any shots yet. He might just have been too slow. He would have needed a moment to make sure he wasn't firing on one of his fellow assassins, and John was wearing clothing roughly similar to theirs. John, on the other hand, has no such limitation, since he has no allies in the house. Maybe he was counting on that - although it still seems like a hell of a risk to run for no perceptible reason.


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*** The scene I'm referring to happens after [[spoiler: John is captured and then escapes with Marcus's help, before John kills Iosef]]. Avi is present for [[spoiler: John's interrogation]] and leaves with Viggo, but appears not to be in the SUV.
** Presumably he's cowering in the back seat. John isn't being systematic; he would leave once he's got what he came for.

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** He was probably out of ammo. Or just panicked.



** I assumed they were ''trying'' but John maneuvered too fast and had the advantage of knowing the house's geography better than them.



** Considering who Winston is, it's likely he'd recognize this foul play and tell Iosef to take a hike.



** Yes. Alternatively, the driver may have noticed John's grenade-launcher and was trying to avoid its line of fire.



* Why did no one recognize John's obvious American accent when he talked into the radio he stole off the dead guard?

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** Avi, Viggo's lawyer, is killed when John crashes his car onto him sideways, driving his head through the window and probably shattering his entire skeleton. If you're referring to the MookLieutenant he interrogates in the Red Circle, he drowned during the interrogation.
* Why did no one recognize John's obvious American accent when he talked into the radio he stole off the dead guard?guard?
** Maybe the guard was also American?
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** The Continental may be exclusively for professional assassins, in which case Iosef would not qualify.


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** My theory is that he wanted Iosef to fully appreciate how frightening and hopeless his situation was before administering the kill.
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* If you aren't allowed to try and murder people while inside the hotel and John respects the rules. Why didn't Iosef just rent a room and order room service while waiting for dads mooks to kill Mr. Wick?
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* What happens to Avi after [[spoiler: John's interrogation]]? He presumably isn't in the SUV or John would have killed him there.

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* What happens to Avi after [[spoiler: John's interrogation]]? He presumably isn't in the SUV or John would have killed him there.there.
* Why did no one recognize John's obvious American accent when he talked into the radio he stole off the dead guard?

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* When John faces down Viggo after escaping from the church, why doesn't Viggo's driver just run John down? Instead he swerves to avoid him and ends up crashing. Did the driver just panic?

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* When [[spoiler: John faces down Viggo after escaping from the church, church]], why doesn't Viggo's driver just run John down? Instead he swerves to avoid him and ends up crashing. Did the driver just panic?panic?
* What happens to Avi after [[spoiler: John's interrogation]]? He presumably isn't in the SUV or John would have killed him there.
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* During the fight against the crew in John's house, John kills four mooks, then jumps down and kills a fifth. A sixth mook then comes in from a hallway behind John. John runs past the guy, *crossing his line of fire* before shooting him. Why doesn't the mook pull the trigger?
* In general, why don't the assassins converge on John's location once they hear gunfire?
* When John is in the bathhouse in the basement of the Red Circle, there's a moment when he has a straight shot at Iosef. They exchange a long look - it's a good five seconds. Nobody is standing near or behind Iosef in the shot so there is no danger of killing an innocent. Why doesn't John fire?
* When John faces down Viggo after escaping from the church, why doesn't Viggo's driver just run John down? Instead he swerves to avoid him and ends up crashing. Did the driver just panic?

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