History Headscratchers / InsideMan

27th Jul '16 7:54:43 PM Discar
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*** Case says "It was 60 years ago. I was young and ambitious. I saw a short path to success to success and I took it. I sold my soul and I've been trying to buy it back ever since." He could have been a teenager or in his twenties, since he states that what was in the safety deposit box was [[spoiler: along with a document, a ring and some diamonds from Jewish concentration camp victims. Which he then stole and sold to the highest bidder.]] Thievery doesn't require age or experience, and the Jewish "friends" could have been friends of his parents if he was a young man.
*** It's not uncommon for actors to play characters older than the actors are themselves, and once people get to be the age Plummer is, it's simple enough to believe the character could be a few years older. Remember, Sean Connery's only a few years older than Harrison Ford, yet they played father and son in ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.

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*** ** Case says "It was 60 years ago. I was young and ambitious. I saw a short path to success to success and I took it. I sold my soul and I've been trying to buy it back ever since." He could have been a teenager or in his twenties, since he states that what was in the safety deposit box was [[spoiler: along with a document, a ring and some diamonds from Jewish concentration camp victims. Which he then stole and sold to the highest bidder.]] Thievery doesn't require age or experience, and the Jewish "friends" could have been friends of his parents if he was a young man.
*** ** It's not uncommon for actors to play characters older than the actors are themselves, and once people get to be the age Plummer is, it's simple enough to believe the character could be a few years older. Remember, Sean Connery's only a few years older than Harrison Ford, yet they played father and son in ''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.



*** Fair enough, but the nonchalant way the whole is dealt with by the authorities is beyond ridiculous; just because there's been no apparent propriety crime doesn't mean a crime hasn't happened, the poor hostages are most certainly going to suffer from the effects of the crime for years to come. And no pressure either? Hell, the media would be hounding them night and day to solve this case, unless they could be bought too (which isn't implausible in the world as it is shown in this movie... but it's a far cry from real life).
*** Nobody was hounding anybody, DaChief said "Nobody's breathing down my neck to come up with answers, I'm not gonna breathe down yours.", and "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence" is not a good enough justification for spending limited police resources on a fruitless case (not to mention unethical).
*** Not really a case of the media being bought off, but chasing bigger fish. Remember, all due to a theatrical bank robbery that didn't actually happen, by design, one of the most powerful people in New York City's high society is about to be outed as a former Nazi collaborator. The media would be having a field day with Case's connections and probably laud Dalton's team akin to Robin Hood. With no leads and pressure from Madeleine White's contacts to wrap things up, I highly doubt there will be much push to keep the case open. As for the hostages, they won't forget, but they probably are either thankful to have survived or just as amazed as anybody what really happened.
* Another plot hole regarding the identity of the female robber is that her physical appearance is a huge liability for the plan. It is distinct enough that if another large breasted brunette hadn't happen to coincidentally been in the bank that day, the female robber could've easily been identified by the other hostages regardless of their misdirection tricks on that regard. Unless the other large breasted brunette was a plant (which the movie in no way implies) they took a huge risk by making the large breasted thief participate in the heist.

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*** ** Fair enough, but the nonchalant way the whole is dealt with by the authorities is beyond ridiculous; just because there's been no apparent propriety crime doesn't mean a crime hasn't happened, the poor hostages are most certainly going to suffer from the effects of the crime for years to come. And no pressure either? Hell, the media would be hounding them night and day to solve this case, unless they could be bought too (which isn't implausible in the world as it is shown in this movie... but it's a far cry from real life).
*** ** Nobody was hounding anybody, DaChief said "Nobody's breathing down my neck to come up with answers, I'm not gonna breathe down yours.", and "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence" is not a good enough justification for spending limited police resources on a fruitless case (not to mention unethical).
*** ** Not really a case of the media being bought off, but chasing bigger fish. Remember, all due to a theatrical bank robbery that didn't actually happen, by design, one of the most powerful people in New York City's high society is about to be outed as a former Nazi collaborator. The media would be having a field day with Case's connections and probably laud Dalton's team akin to Robin Hood. With no leads and pressure from Madeleine White's contacts to wrap things up, I highly doubt there will be much push to keep the case open. As for the hostages, they won't forget, but they probably are either thankful to have survived or just as amazed as anybody what really happened.
* ** Another plot hole regarding the identity of the female robber is that her physical appearance is a huge liability for the plan. It is distinct enough that if another large breasted brunette hadn't happen to coincidentally been in the bank that day, the female robber could've easily been identified by the other hostages regardless of their misdirection tricks on that regard. Unless the other large breasted brunette was a plant (which the movie in no way implies) they took a huge risk by making the large breasted thief participate in the heist.



*** They have the eye witness testimony of all the hostages, not just the creep who noticed her in the bank line. And if large breast size is a characteristic possessed by a single individual inside the bank, identification would be posible.

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*** ** They have the eye witness testimony of all the hostages, not just the creep who noticed her in the bank line. And if large breast size is a characteristic possessed by a single individual inside the bank, identification would be posible.



*** Good luck getting that weirdass orthography on the first try!

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*** ** Good luck getting that weirdass orthography on the first try!



*** Why would it be suspicious to visit his own bank? It's certainly no more suspicious than what he *did* do. And yes, if it had been removed there was nothing he could have done -- but it *wasn't* removed, and if he had collected the ring before Frazier had a chance to figure things out, there would have been no smoking gun. After all the trouble he went to trying to make sure no one discovered his secret, he just walks away?

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*** ** Why would it be suspicious to visit his own bank? It's certainly no more suspicious than what he *did* do. And yes, if it had been removed there was nothing he could have done -- but it *wasn't* removed, and if he had collected the ring before Frazier had a chance to figure things out, there would have been no smoking gun. After all the trouble he went to trying to make sure no one discovered his secret, he just walks away?
22nd Jul '16 10:27:39 AM ZShogan
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**** Nobody was hounding anybody, DaChief said "Nobody's breathing down my neck to come up with answers, I'm not gonna breathe down yours.", and "absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence" is not a good enough justification for spending limited police resources on a fruitless case (not to mention unethical).
19th Jul '16 10:29:13 AM AzureOwl
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*** They have the eye witness testimony of all the hostages, not just the creep who noticed her in the bank line. And if large breast size is a characteristic possessed by a single individual inside the bank, identification would be posible.
18th Jul '16 8:20:08 PM ZShogan
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** When has any woman ever been successfully identified as a perpetrator of a crime based on her cup size as attested to by a single questionable eyewitness?

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** When has any woman ever been successfully identified as a perpetrator of a crime based on a description of her cup size as attested to by a single questionable eyewitness?
18th Jul '16 8:19:43 PM ZShogan
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** When has any woman ever been successfully identified as a perpetrator of a crime based on her cup size as attested to by a single questionable eyewitness?
9th May '16 11:57:31 AM JamesAustin
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*** It's not uncommon for actors to play characters older than the actors are themselves, and once people get to be the age Plummer is, it's simple enough to believe the character could be a few years older. Remember, Sean Connery's only a few years older than Harrison Ford, yet they played father and son in ''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.

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*** It's not uncommon for actors to play characters older than the actors are themselves, and once people get to be the age Plummer is, it's simple enough to believe the character could be a few years older. Remember, Sean Connery's only a few years older than Harrison Ford, yet they played father and son in ''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.''Film/IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.
6th May '16 5:38:18 PM Robotech_Master
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*** It's not uncommon for actors to play characters older than the actors are themselves, and once people get to be the age Plummer is, it's simple enough to believe the character could be a few years older. Remember, Sean Connery's only a few years older than Harrison Ford, yet they played father and son in ''IndianaJonesAndTheLastCrusade''.
6th May '16 5:34:38 PM Robotech_Master
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** Hubris. It's common among the rich and powerful. (Just look at any politician who goes down in scandal for something they could easily have concealed if they'd only thought they actually needed to. Or look at any corporate executive who makes a disastrous decision that was obviously stupid in retrospect.) Perhaps he would go and take out the ring and look at it as a reminder that he had never been caught. Perhaps it was meant to remind him of what he had to repent for. Perhaps he secretly wanted to be caught. There are plenty of reasons.
28th Apr '16 2:16:29 PM AzureOwl
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* Another plot hole regarding the identity of the female robber is that her physical appearance is a huge liability for the plan. It is distinct enough that if another large breasted brunette hadn't happen to coincidentally been in the bank that day, the female robber could've easily been identified by the other hostages regardless of their misdirection tricks on that regard. Unless the other large breasted brunette was a plant (which the movie in no way implies) they took a huge risk by making her participate in the heist.

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* Another plot hole regarding the identity of the female robber is that her physical appearance is a huge liability for the plan. It is distinct enough that if another large breasted brunette hadn't happen to coincidentally been in the bank that day, the female robber could've easily been identified by the other hostages regardless of their misdirection tricks on that regard. Unless the other large breasted brunette was a plant (which the movie in no way implies) they took a huge risk by making her the large breasted thief participate in the heist.
28th Apr '16 1:34:35 PM ZShogan
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[[folder: Keeping incriminating evidence]]
* Why, after World War II broke out and it became clear that the Nazis were going to lose, would Arthur Case continue to hold on to evidence of his collaboration with them? If he'd just burned the documents, sold the diamonds one at a time over several years (or even decades), removed the diamond from the ring and sold that as well, and melted the band down for bullion, any evidence of his crimes would be gone, and he'd be in the clears.
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