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** There's also the point that Nicholas desperately wanted to keep being a police officer. He initially tried to get the other officers on his side just to see they had prepared a "going away/get the the fuck out" party. Besides that, who wants to stay in a service where everyone hates you? Yes, Nicholas could sue for extortion. However, it would take months, if not years to sort it all out. After it was all done, would any service want him back? Nicholas loved his job more than his pride. That's why he lost his girlfriend. Nicholas after his time with Danny might have turned to legal action. Before that? Unlikely.

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** There's also the point that Nicholas desperately wanted to keep being a police officer. He initially tried to get the other officers on his side just to see they had prepared a "going away/get the the fuck out" party. Besides that, who wants to stay in a service where everyone hates you? Yes, Nicholas could sue for extortion. However, it would take months, if not years to sort it all out. After it was all done, would any service want him back? Nicholas loved his job more than his pride. That's why he lost his girlfriend. Nicholas after his time with Danny might have turned to legal action. Before that? Unlikely.
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** Another theory is that the pub owners didn't want to kill them and may even have planned to take them home after they closed. It would be a very bad idea if they chased after the kids after Nichol as chased them out though (that would give people a chance to rob them which would look worse than urinating in public or make the owners look like creepers). It's a stretch, but it is possible that the owners weren't the ones who reported the drunken teenagers to the NWA (Nicholas did that for them) and that they didn't want the kids to die. However, their look of anger seems to be disconnected from what they know is going to happen to those kids. They look more annoyed then the "oh God, kids could die for this" kind of look you would expect. Furthermore, it may be possible that they didn't want to help the kids once Nicholas kicked them out because that would be contrary to what the NWA wants. If NWA members are saving troublemakers from the NWA, it would look like a betrayal and the offending members would suffer "accidents". Just look at Tiller. If true, this still makes the pub owners look like selfish sociopaths.

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** Another theory is that the pub owners didn't want to kill them and may even have planned to take them home after they closed. It would be a very bad idea if they chased after the kids after Nichol as chased them out though (that would give people a chance to rob them which would look worse than urinating in public or make the owners look like creepers). It's a stretch, but it is possible that the owners weren't the ones who reported the drunken teenagers to the NWA (Nicholas did that for them) and that they didn't want the kids to die. However, their look of anger seems to be disconnected from what they know is going to happen to those kids. They look more annoyed then than the "oh "Oh God, kids could die for this" kind of look you would expect. Furthermore, it may be possible that they didn't want to help the kids once Nicholas kicked them out because that would be contrary to what the NWA wants. If NWA members are saving troublemakers from the NWA, it would look like a betrayal and the offending members would suffer "accidents". Just look at Tiller. If true, this still makes the pub owners look like selfish sociopaths.
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** ^This. Franchises are owned by the franchise owner, which in this case is Skinner.

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** ^This.*** This. Franchises are owned by the franchise owner, which in this case is Skinner.

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** Plus, can you imagine actually knowing Angel? They make it clear at the start of the film and remind us several times throughout that he's just utterly insufferable. He doesn't watch films, he's obsessed with his job, he only seems to care about his Japanese peace lily. What does he do after a lot of paperwork? Lies in his bed massaging his hand. Can you imagine actually knowing someone that robotic and cold-hearted? Can you imagine having to WORK with them?
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* Also the sea mine blast near the end of the film had no purpose in the story. Nicholas and Danny already took care of Hatcher in the beginning of the climax fight when Danny shot him in the foot and arrested him, so how could he have got free and got hand of a shotgun? And secondly, everyone survived the blast except for Hatcher (which is fine) yet we're supposed to think Danny is about to die but it cuts to a year later; everything's back to normal, Danny's revealed to be fine and after they visit his mum's grave, both him and Nick go on patrol and then the credits roll. I get the fakeout was relying on RuleofFunny but you could've cut that sea mine explosion scene out and it would make no difference.

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* Also the sea mine blast near the end of the film had no purpose in the story. Nicholas and Danny already took care of Hatcher in the beginning of the climax fight when Danny shot him in the foot and arrested him, so how could he have got free and got hand of a shotgun? And secondly, everyone survived the blast except for Hatcher Weaver (which is fine) yet we're supposed to think Danny is about to die but it cuts to a year later; everything's back to normal, Danny's revealed to be fine and after they visit his mum's grave, both him and Nick go on patrol and then the credits roll. I get the fakeout was relying on RuleofFunny but you could've cut that sea mine explosion scene out and it would make no difference.
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** Plus, can you imagine actually knowing Angel? They make it clear at the start of the film and remind us several times throughout that he's just utterly insufferable. He doesn't watch films, he's obsessed with his job, he only seems to care about his Japanese peace lilly. What does he do after a lot of paperwork? Lies in his bed massaging his hand. Can you imagine actually knowing someone that robotic and cold-hearted? Can you imagine having to WORK with them?

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** Plus, can you imagine actually knowing Angel? They make it clear at the start of the film and remind us several times throughout that he's just utterly insufferable. He doesn't watch films, he's obsessed with his job, he only seems to care about his Japanese peace lilly.lily. What does he do after a lot of paperwork? Lies in his bed massaging his hand. Can you imagine actually knowing someone that robotic and cold-hearted? Can you imagine having to WORK with them?




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** The NWA would not be the first nor the last oppressive organisation to make hypocritical exceptions for people within their direct orbit if they are related or otherwise useful; Tina's not exactly in the inner circle, but given how the supermarket employees are clearly demonstrated to act as Skinner's goons in the final battle we can safely assume that they have found some use for her which allows them to make an exception for her more unsavoury side. In any case, the lapdancing club is almost certainly not within Sandford itself (IIRC it's mentioned to be in a different town) so as long as it doesn't happen in the village they're probably willing turn a blind eye.



** It's almost a guarantee that the Chief Inspector has already got the approval of the CS and the Commander (who are almost certainly also jealous of/threatened by Angel) to pull this move; he's just quipping and pulling rank in response to Angel protesting that he can't do this by making it clear that he ''can'' and that there's no point in Angel trying to go over his head about this (i.e. I'm the Chief Inspector, and I've got more pull with my superiors than you do). Besides which, it's not like it's a literal disappearing act, it's just an otherwise standard transfer of personnel.

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** It's almost a guarantee that the Chief Inspector has already got the approval of the CS and the Commander (who are almost certainly also jealous of/threatened by Angel) if needed to pull this move; he's just quipping and pulling rank in response to Angel protesting that he can't do this by making it clear that he ''can'' and that there's no point in Angel trying to go over his head about this (i.e. I'm if the Chief Inspector, Inspector wants you gone, the Superintendent and I've got more pull with my superiors than you do). the Commander are probably willing to back the Chief Inspector up). Besides which, it's not like "disappearing" is an exaggeration; it's a literal disappearing act, it's just an otherwise standard transfer of personnel.to personnel (to an admittedly out-of-the-way position, granted), the higher ups probably don't need to get directly involved every time an officer is posted to a different location.
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** It's almost a guarantee that the Chief Inspector has already got the approval of the CS and the Commander (who are almost certainly also jealous of/threatened by Angel) to pull this move; he's just quipping and pulling rank in response to Angel protesting that he can't do this by making it clear that he ''can'' and that there's no point in Angel trying to go over his head about this (i.e. I'm the Chief Inspector, and I've got more pull with my superiors than you do). Besides which, it's not like it's a literal disappearing act, it's just an otherwise standard transfer of personnel.
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** More than a few trains now have electricity sockets solely for the use of mobile phones/laptops. It's possible that he's had it on charge for the bits that aren't part of the montage.

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** More than a few trains now have electricity sockets charging ports solely for the use of mobile phones/laptops. It's possible that he's had it on charge for the bits that aren't part of the montage.



** Older phones with less software on them (like Angel's) hold their battery power very well. Mine is outdated by about 4 years, but I can leave it on for about 5 days before the battery bar drops slightly. As opposed to, say, an iPhone, which depending on how many apps are installed tends to last just over two days or so.
** Also, assuming Sandford's supposed to be in roughly the same area as it's filmed (That is, [[UsefulNotes/TheWestCountry Wells, in North Somerset]]), it only takes about four hours--or rather would, if there was a train station there--to get there on the train from London. Sorry, Lon-don.

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** Older phones with less software on them (like Angel's) hold their battery power very well. Mine is outdated by about 4 years, but I can leave it on for about 5 days before the battery bar drops slightly. As opposed to, say, an iPhone, Your modern iPhone or smartphone, which depending on how many apps are installed is more like a mini computer you carry in your pocket, tends to last just over two days or so.
** Also, assuming Sandford's supposed to be in roughly the same area as it's filmed (That is, [[UsefulNotes/TheWestCountry Wells, in North Somerset]]), it only takes about four hours--or rather would, if there was a train station there--to get there on the train from London. Sorry, Lon-don.
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** On the subject of that, I think it's an Artifact or whatever the trope name is for the time before the village became so corrupt, back when the police still gave a shit. The old riot gear from that was still around because why bother getting rid of it, especially when it might help Butterman and the others in a desperate situation to instill "the greater good"?
** Assuming Sandford is where Wells actually is in real life (Wells being where the film was... filmed), it's very near the site of Glastonbury Festival, one of the biggest music festivals in the world. Glasto is where riot police go to train in crowd control.

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** On the subject of that, I think it's an Artifact or whatever the trope name is for the time before the village became so corrupt, back when the police still gave a shit. The old riot gear from that was still around because why bother getting rid of it, especially when it might help Butterman Frank and the others in a desperate situation to instill "the greater good"?
** Assuming Sandford is where Wells actually is in real life (Wells being Gloucestershire, one county over from Somerset where the film was... filmed), movie's filming location of Wells is located, so it's very near the site of Glastonbury Festival, one of the biggest music festivals in the world. Glasto is where riot police go to train in crowd control.



* When the flower lady gets murdered in front of Nicholas, he throws his baton at the door so it will shatter, so he doesn't have to open the door. Smart, but then he tries to force through it anyway, making him fall down, even though the door was already shattered. Just seems unnecessary.

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* When the flower lady Leslie Tiller gets murdered in front of Nicholas, he throws his baton at the door so it will shatter, so he doesn't have to open the door. Smart, but then he tries to force through it anyway, making him fall down, even though the door was already shattered. Just seems unnecessary.



** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Service Met]] are responsible for policing in the Greater London area only, with the exception of the City of London (which has its own [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London_Police police service]]). It does have national jurisdiction for counter-terrorism, the protection of the Royal Family and of the Government, however.

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** The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Service Met]] are responsible for policing in the 32 Boroughs of [[UsefulNotes/OneLondonThirtyTwoBoroughs Greater London area London]] only, with the exception of the City of London (which has its own [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London_Police police service]]). It does have national jurisdiction for counter-terrorism, the protection of the Royal Family and of the Government, however.



** Met officers can be (and regularly are) seconded out to other forces--er, services--but normally when they have particular expertise (e.g. anti-terrorist officers going to other big cities), and again it can't really be done against their will. It's also not unheard of for diagonal promotions to happen between services but it's normally at much higher levels (e.g. the current head of the Met started in Yorkshire, and moved to Liverpool and then to London to chase promotions), so it could be that Angel wanted to be a Sergeant more than he wanted to stay in London--blocking his promotion would certainly be within their power.

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** Met officers can be (and regularly are) seconded out to other forces--er, services--but normally when they have particular expertise (e.g. anti-terrorist officers going to other big cities), and again it can't really be done against their will. It's also not unheard of for diagonal promotions to happen between services but it's normally at much higher levels (e.g. the current head of the Met Bernard Hogan-Howe started in Yorkshire, and moved to Liverpool and then to London to chase promotions), so it could be that Angel wanted to be a Sergeant more than he wanted to stay in London--blocking his promotion would certainly be within their power.



** As the troper above says, they probably didn't transfer him out against his will (not entirely, anyway) the first time, but made it perfectly clear that if he didn't accept the promotion, he'd be blocked for the rest of his career. Angel probably decided he'd rather move to the country to accept a promotion rather than remain in London as a constable for the rest of his life. In any case, even Nicholas Angel is only going to accept a certain amount of screwing around with his life on part of the Metropolitan Police before he likely quits, sues them, and goes to the press about how the Metropolitan Police have been repeatedly dicking around their best officer out of little better motivation than spite, jealousy and arse-covering. This isn't exactly a better outcome for the Met.

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** As the troper above says, they probably didn't transfer him out against his will (not entirely, anyway) the first time, but made it perfectly clear that if he didn't accept the promotion, he'd be blocked for the rest of his career. Angel probably decided he'd rather move to the country to accept a promotion rather than remain in London as a constable for the rest of his life. In any case, even Nicholas Angel is only going to accept a certain amount of screwing around with his life on part of the Metropolitan Police before he likely quits, sues them, and goes to the press about how the Metropolitan Police brass have been repeatedly dicking around their best officer out of little better motivation than spite, jealousy and arse-covering. This isn't exactly a better outcome for the Met.



** Plus, can you imagine actually knowing Angel? They make it clear at the start of the film and remind us several times throughout that he's just utterly insufferable. He doesn't watch films, he's obsessed with his job, he only seems to care about his plant. What does he do after a lot of paperwork? Lies in his bed massaging his hand. Can you imagine actually knowing someone that robotic and cold-hearted? Can you imagine having to WORK with them?

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** Plus, can you imagine actually knowing Angel? They make it clear at the start of the film and remind us several times throughout that he's just utterly insufferable. He doesn't watch films, he's obsessed with his job, he only seems to care about his plant.Japanese peace lilly. What does he do after a lot of paperwork? Lies in his bed massaging his hand. Can you imagine actually knowing someone that robotic and cold-hearted? Can you imagine having to WORK with them?
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*** Also the sea mine blast near the end of the film had no purpose in the story. Nicholas and Danny already took care of Hatcher in the beginning of the climax fight when Danny shot him in the foot and arrested him, so how could he have got free and got hand of a shotgun? And secondly, everyone survived the blast except for Hatcher (which is fine) yet we're supposed to think Danny is about to die but it cuts to a year later; everything's back to normal, Danny's revealed to be fine and after they visit his mum's grave, both him and Nick go on patrol and then the credits roll. I get the fakeout was relying on RuleofFunny but you could've cut that sea mine explosion scene out and it would make no difference.

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*** * Also the sea mine blast near the end of the film had no purpose in the story. Nicholas and Danny already took care of Hatcher in the beginning of the climax fight when Danny shot him in the foot and arrested him, so how could he have got free and got hand of a shotgun? And secondly, everyone survived the blast except for Hatcher (which is fine) yet we're supposed to think Danny is about to die but it cuts to a year later; everything's back to normal, Danny's revealed to be fine and after they visit his mum's grave, both him and Nick go on patrol and then the credits roll. I get the fakeout was relying on RuleofFunny but you could've cut that sea mine explosion scene out and it would make no difference.
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**** Also the sea mine blast near the end of the film had no purpose in the story. Nicholas and Danny already took care of Hatcher in the beginning of the climax fight when Danny shot him in the foot and arrested him, so how could he have got free and got hand of a shotgun? And secondly, everyone survived the blast except for Hatcher (which is fine) yet we're supposed to think Danny is about to die but it cuts to a year later; everything's back to normal, Danny's revealed to be fine and after they visit his mum's grave, both him and Nick go on patrol and then the credits roll. I get the fakeout was relying on RuleofFunny but you could've cut that sea mine explosion scene out and it would make no difference.
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[[folder: I’m the Chief Inspector]]
* Chief Inspector is only equivalent to Captain in a U.S. police department. I would think that disappearing people would require at least a Chief Superintendant, or even the Commander of the Uniformed Branch. (In one of J.J. Marric’s books, Gideon’s sidekick Lemaitre laments “I know I’ll never rise above CI.”)
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** They are all thick as bricks and seem quite content to just lounge about the office all day, allowing the NWA to basically run the town,if you were a murderous cult, who would you rather have "policing" the town? a bunch of imcompetant idiots or a squad of people like (or at least close to seeing as he was a Supercop) Angel?

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** They are all thick as bricks and seem quite content to just lounge about the office all day, allowing the NWA to basically run the town,if you were a murderous cult, who would you rather have "policing" the town? a bunch of imcompetant idiots or a squad of people like (or at least close to seeing as he was a Supercop) Angel?
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* Rule one for most criminals is never kill a cop as other cops tend to come after you. Even if it looks like an accident the county force will insist on an investigation which will expose the NWA. Besides they might be incompetent but they don't do any damage and can't oppose the NWA, replacement coppers might not be so easy to subvert or subdue. Like say Sgt Angel who ultimately they have to kill unless they want to do life in prison. This turns out to be easier said than done.

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* ** Rule one for most criminals is never kill a cop as other cops tend to come after you. Even if it looks like an accident the county force will insist on an investigation which will expose the NWA. Besides they might be incompetent but they don't do any damage and can't oppose the NWA, replacement coppers might not be so easy to subvert or subdue. Like say Sgt Angel who ultimately they have to kill unless they want to do life in prison. This turns out to be easier said than done.
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** They are all thick as bricks and seem quite content to just lounge about the office all day, allowing the NWA to basically run the town,if you were a murderous cult, who would you rather have "policing" the town? a bunch of imcompetant idiots or a squad of people like (or at least close to seeing as he was a Supercop) Angel?
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** He could also be an undercover cop which would make sense that he was questioning the messed up system around him. No one expects Santa to pull a gun and a badge on you. The constable uniform is for when he isn't undercover, perhaps.
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'''Danny''': (still panicking) No wait! I heard him on the phone after he took out Lurch. He may have told someone where he was going. If he's reported missing, they'll check there first. You deal with that, I know a good place for this.
*** That would bring up the point of why they didn't dump Angel with the rest of bodies in where ever they had to go, but see the above comments about the commentary stating Danny screamed the others away from Nicholas's body. He killed his friend, he would deal with it. Plus the others had a clean up to do and one less body to deal with would be helpful.
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** Agreed. Nicholas asks Webley if he has a license for his gun to which he responds that he has one for "this one". He then willingly and casually shows off his collection. Even Danny is shocked. It's clear that Webley is just an old coot with a collection hobby. Nicholas has to point out just how dangerous the collection is to which Webley responds with ''hitting a sea mine with the butt of his gun''. Of course, maybe he had paid or asked someone to bring him the mine and never really handled it himself, so he didn't think it was dangerous at all (or assumed it was deactivated), but it's clear that Webley isn't all the way there in the head.
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** There's also the point that Nicholas desperately wanted to keep being a police officer. He initially tried to get the other officers on his side just to see they had prepared a "going away/get the the fuck out" party. Besides that, who wants to stay in a service where everyone hates you? Yes, Nicholas could sue for extortion. However, it would take months, if not years to sort it all out. After it was all done, would any service want him back? Nicholas loved his job more than his pride. That's why he lost his girlfriend. Nicholas after his time with Danny might have turned to legal action. Before that? Unlikely.
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** Also keep in mind that Frank wanted the other officers to stay lazy and complacent. Keeping their spirits and morale high, being jovial, and making it LOOK like they were prepared for the worst while letting dust and cobwebs pile up on the gear is some major propaganda. "Yeah, we have it. Yeah, we may need it. But it's been years, almost decades now since we have had to. Sit back, relax, have some ice cream."
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* Rule one for most criminals is never kill a cop as other cops tend to come after you. Even if it looks like an accident the county force will insist on an investigation which will expose the NWA. Besides they might be incompetent but they don't do any damage and can't oppose the NWA, replacement coppers might not be so easy to subvert or subdue. Like say Sgt Angel who ultimately they have to kill unless they want to do life in prison. This turns out to be easier said than done.
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** Great point. That makes sense.

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* Prior to taking a level in badass, most of them behaved like oblivious idiots. So why wasn't that a concern for something that could "ruin the town's reputation"?
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** Good question. Maybe Tina did her table dancing in a nearby city rather than the town (Sandford doesn't seem like the type of location for a place called "Flappers"), so the NWA weren't too worried about it affecting the judging.
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* Y'know, one thing always bugged me about the NWA's hypocrisy. They want to kill people in the name of keeping their city prim and proper, right? If so, why did the NWA let Tina the table dancer live? Again, Tina also worked part time as a table dancer. So why did the NWA let Tina the table dancer live?

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* Y'know, one thing always bugged me about the NWA's hypocrisy. They want to kill people in the name of keeping their city prim and proper, right? If so, why did the NWA let Tina the table dancer live? Again, Tina also worked part time as a table dancer. So why did was that accepted by the NWA let Tina the table dancer live?NWA?

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* Y'know, one thing always bugged me about the NWA's hypocrisy. They want to kill people in the name of keeping their city prim and proper, right? If so, why did the NWA let Tina the stripper live?
** What stripper? Tina works at the supermarket and is one of the NWA's goons.
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* Y'know, one thing always bugged me about the NWA's hypocrisy. They want to kill people in the name of keeping their city prim and proper, right? If so, why did the NWA let Tina the stripper live?
** What stripper? Tina works at the supermarket and is one of the NWA's goons.
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** Sorry, I got that part wrong. What I should have said was that, along with being a market employee, Tina also worked part time as a table dancer. So why did the NWA let Tina the table dancer live?
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** What stripper? Tina works at the supermarket and is one of the NWA's goons.

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