History Headscratchers / HocusPocus

18th Jul '16 10:12:18 PM timemonkey
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** If they made a DealWithTheDevil for eternal life and have been in hell, presumably when they were there at the time and said devil brought them back. They probably don't want to return as failures, because Old Scratch will subject them to some terrible punishment for failing to drain more children.

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** If they made a DealWithTheDevil for eternal life and have been in hell, presumably when they were there at the time and said devil brought them back. They probably don't want to return as failures, because Old Scratch will subject them to some terrible punishment for failing to drain more children.children.
** Just because they enjoyed their time in Hell doesn't mean they don't enjoy being alive much more.
25th Jun '16 12:38:33 PM 4power4
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* How exactly did the witches begin to brew the potion at all? Their home has been turned into a museum for centuries and surely any remnants of dead bodies (dead man's toe and oil of boils) were done away with centuries ago. How could the witches have acquired such ingriedients in the time between kidnapping Danny and Sarah returning from using her magic song? We can clearly see the potion is in its final stage, so it seems they either had the ingredients on hand (doubtful) or killed a few people on the way.
18th Apr '16 5:56:51 PM Luppercus
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***Unless he had sex with another 15 year-old person, as most normal people do. Who wrote this headscratcher? Doug Walker? When I saw the movie as a young teen I did get the joke, we all were assuming that virgin meant female, but it apply to him too, he is ashamed of that as, whether we like or not, most teen boys of that age want not to be virgins and many, especially someone good looking like him, are not. Teens do have sex before 18 even when currently become an issue among socially conservative people, but in the 90s it wasn’t such a scandal and many movies and TV series implied or openly established that teens were sexually active.
8th Jan '16 5:30:26 PM Temporary14
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* What is the witch's goal in trying to live forever anyway? They mention a few times that they spent the intervening centuries in hell and enjoyed themselves; Sarah actually seems pretty cheerful to go back when they're defeated.

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* What is the witch's goal in trying to live forever anyway? They mention a few times that they spent the intervening centuries in hell and enjoyed themselves; Sarah actually seems pretty cheerful to go back when they're defeated.defeated.
** If they made a DealWithTheDevil for eternal life and have been in hell, presumably when they were there at the time and said devil brought them back. They probably don't want to return as failures, because Old Scratch will subject them to some terrible punishment for failing to drain more children.
8th Jan '16 5:17:44 PM Temporary14
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** Also, keep in mind that they spent some time riding a bus, with a bus driver who explained a little about what said vehicle was and even let Sarah try to drive it. They could easily have been repeating something they heard from him. The guy seemed like the kind who'd sarcastically shout something like that at another driver.
28th Dec '15 11:47:40 PM Ingonyama
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*** The only one to break in on a Full Moon during Halloween and not be thwarted by Binx. He's been guarding house the on Halloween night ever since the witches died to stop people doing exactly that

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*** The only one to break in on a Full Moon during Halloween and not be thwarted by Binx. He's been guarding the house the on Halloween night ever since the witches died to stop people doing exactly that
25th Oct '15 11:30:11 AM ImpudentInfidel
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*** They likely spent the day searching for Thackery and questioning the sisters about what they've done with him. They make it clear they know something they aren't saying and they're hanged when the children's father finally loses his patience.

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*** They likely spent the day searching for Thackery and questioning the sisters about what they've done with him. They make it clear they know something they aren't saying and they're hanged when the children's father finally loses his patience.patience.
* What is the witch's goal in trying to live forever anyway? They mention a few times that they spent the intervening centuries in hell and enjoyed themselves; Sarah actually seems pretty cheerful to go back when they're defeated.
14th Oct '15 6:30:08 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* How the hell did they survive the oven? I'm sorry, but that special effect makes ''no sense''. It's just a cop-out.
** They burn up in the fire, the oven timer shuts it off, and they're magically revived. The Black Flame Candle spell brought them back and would keep them alive until they used the life-sucking potion to give themselves non-spell-bound life or the light of dawn, whichever came first.
*** I don't remember anything ever being established about their being UNKILLABLE until dawn. PlotArmor is risky enough business in and of itself, but when it fails to be ''established''?!
*** The characters ''assumed'' fire would work because of the stereotype. Binx doesn't think they're dead and he's more in the know about magic stuff than they are.

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* How the hell did they survive the oven? I'm sorry, but that special effect makes ''no sense''.oven? . It's just a cop-out.
** They burn up in the fire, the oven timer shuts it off, and they're magically revived. The Black Flame Candle spell brought them back and would keep them alive until they used the life-sucking potion to give themselves non-spell-bound life or the light of dawn, whichever came first.
*** I don't remember anything ever being established about their being UNKILLABLE until dawn. PlotArmor is risky enough business in and of itself, but when it fails to be ''established''?!
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first. The characters ''assumed'' fire would work because of the stereotype. Binx doesn't think they're dead and he's more in the know about magic stuff than they are.



** Sarah and Mary point that out to her, but she herself states that she wants Dani since the kid called her ugly.

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** Sarah and Mary point that out to her, but she herself states that she wants Dani since the kid called her ugly.ugly.
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* Winifred can summon lightning from her fingertips, she and her sisters can hypnotize people with their voices, transform people into animals, curse them with diseases and have the power of {{flight}}. So how did the Salem townfolk capture and execute them so fast? And why didn't they try it before? Even if they didn't think they were witches (opposed to the movie's implication that it was common knowledge), Winifred poisoned her lover Billy Butcherson and the whole town seemed to know about it. A lot of arguments could be made to answer questions like this, but the film doesn't seem particularly bothered to.
** The townsfolk could have been really ignorant of the sister's activities. The three of them didn't seem particularly well known. As for how they overpowered them, well, they outnumbered three women by at least thirty and had flaming torches with them. The sister's magical abilities (particularly, Winnie who shoots lightning out of her fingertips) may be extensive, but when cornered, potentially of no use.
*** Maybe the townsfolk actually didn't know, or if they did they had no proof of any of it; the sisters would likely not have been out and about using magic in front of people, they lived alone in an isolated cottage, and anyone who saw what they could do likely became their victims and therefore dead. What happened to Billy could just be rumor or hearsay. But once the townspeople came and caught them red-handed with Emily's body they had all the proof they needed to hang the sisters. It's pretty likely that with strength in numbers they overpowered the sisters in the cramped confines of the cottage, and also if they stripped them of the book, this may have lessened their powers.
** Max was ''really'' the first virgin to be tempted to break into a creepy, reputedly haunted building and [[TemptingFate tempt fate]] by lighting the candle?
*** Maybe the first virgin brave enough (or stupid enough) to attempt it on a Halloween evening, when the moon was full.
*** Full moons coinciding with Halloween are pretty rare.
*** The only one to break in on a Full Moon during Halloween and not be thwarted by Binx. He's been guarding house the on Halloween night ever since the witches died to stop people doing exactly that
** Also, Winifred swoops in on the kids by taunting them with Max's earlier IronicEcho, "It's all just a bunch of [[TitleDrop Hocus Pocus]]!" Then you suddenly realize Winifred wasn't {{back from the dead}} yet when Max said it, and couldn't have heard it.
*** It was Halloween, the time of the year the veil between the living and the dead is thinnest, maybe they could hear them in Hell?
** How did Max's teacher know Thackery's story?
*** He's probably communicated with people in the past. When first turned into a cat, he tries to get his father's attention, but can do nothing but meow. 300 years later he's capable of intelligent speech. Presumably he tried to talk to people at some point and told his story. But he's also GenreSavvy enough to know that letting the world know the witches are real would be TemptingFate, so he keeps quiet.
** So the Sanderson house is now a museum. Given the legendary status of the sisters' story, and the locals' general love of Halloween, you'd think the museum would be, you know, ''open''.
*** The sign outside says it's closed for renovations. Allison tells Danni it's closed because spooky things kept happening there, but she's probably just entertaining the little girl. Still, the place is pretty damn dusty when they get there, so it's probably been shut up for a while. And you'd think it'd be open at Halloween of all times. Halloween in Salem is tourist central.
*** Wasn't it fairly late when they snuck in? It was probably just after the museum's closing time.
** During the opening, Winifred comments on another gloriously sickening morning. During their execution, it's night again, which sets that mood perfectly. Even though the townsfolk were right at their door right as the sun rose, it took them all day to get in somehow. Maybe Winifred and the others did put up an epic magical fight after all before the mob [mostly] sealed their fate. I doubt their sentencing took that long given the evidence / sister corpse.
*** They likely spent the day searching for Thackery and questioning the sisters about what they've done with him. They make it clear they know something they aren't saying and they're hanged when the children's father finally loses his patience.
20th Jul '15 6:14:00 AM fearlessnikki
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** Well most of the sex references will go right over a child's head. Most children would probably just assume that all Sarah would want to do is kiss at most. Children know about what boobs are as well, so they'd probably just take that as an innocent joke.



** He also might want to bargain with Winifred; he'll hand the potion over if she lets Dani go free.



** Fridge brilliance if you consider the fact that all their parents are still at the party under Winnie's spell. Most of the parents probably expected to be home hours ago so they may not have gotten anyone to watch the kids. At that age I would have probably stayed up and waited for my parents... especially if it was Halloween and I was hopped up on candy

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** Fridge brilliance if you consider the fact that all their parents are still at the party under Winnie's spell. Most of the parents probably expected to be home hours ago so they may not have gotten anyone to watch the kids. At that age I would have probably stayed up and waited for my parents... especially if it was Halloween and I was hopped up on candycandy.
** If you watch the scene, not all the children are wearing costumes. Some are wearing dressing gowns and pyjamas. So it's safe to say that some were in bed and some were still up, wearing the costumes.
15th Jan '15 4:03:57 AM BinaryShadow
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*** They also sing at the beginning of the movie before being hanged (but the townspeople close their ears and fight it off.

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*** They also sing at the beginning of the movie before being hanged (but the townspeople close their ears and fight it off.
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