History Headscratchers / HeyArnold

26th Jan '17 11:56:24 PM thecarolinabull01
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** I'd say this is likely true. I'm no expert on mental illnesses but based on what we see on screen she definitely does not have bipolar disorder. She does, however, seem to have some symptoms of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder Borderline Personality Disorder]] a disease that is often mistaken for and misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder.

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** I'd say this is likely true. I'm no expert on mental illnesses but based on what we see on screen she definitely does not have bipolar disorder. She does, however, seem to have some symptoms of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder Borderline Personality Disorder]] a disease that is often mistaken for and misdiagnosed as bipolar disorder. According to experts, you must meet five or more of the following criteria to be officially diagnosed as having BPD:
*** '''Uses extreme measures to avoid real or imagined abandonment''': The lengths she goes to in order to avoid telling Arnold that she's in love with him because she's afraid he'll reject her. I'd say this is a definite yes.
*** '''Volatile relationships with others that can alternate between admiration and deprecation''': She'll ridicule Arnold for his righteous goody-goody personality and then gush about how much she loves him for it in the same sentence. I'd say this is a yes.
*** '''Irresponsibility in at least two potentially harmful areas (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving. binge eating)''': No.
*** '''Suicidal behavior, gestures or threats''': No.
*** '''Self-mutilating behavior''': No. At least not intentionally...
*** '''Mood fluctuations with noticeable rapid changes''': Yes.
*** '''Persistent feelings of emptiness''': I'm not sure about this one. She's occasionally shown to have feelings of emptiness, such as in "Helga's Love Potion" when she was under a placebo for an "anti-love potion" she was basically just a robot with nothing to live for, I'd say yes.
*** '''Feelings of self-hate and self-loathing''': With how much time she spends comparing herself to Olga and Lila in negative ways and wishing she could be prettier, nicer, funnier, etc., this is likely a yes.
*** '''Feeling misunderstood, neglected, alone, empty or hopeless''': Yes, no question.
*** '''Difficulty controlling emotions or impulses''': She's sometimes shown to be about to be nice to Arnold for a change, only to snap right back into bully mode in an instant. Yet other times, such as "Helga's Masquerade", she keeps her anger in check quite well. One for the "maybe" pile.
** So that's 6 "yes"es and 1 possible "yes". She may very well have this disorder.
7th Jan '17 4:59:59 PM thecarolinabull01
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* Arnold and Helga are 9, right? So what's up with all the GettingCrapPastTheRadar sexual overtones of the latter's feelings regarding the former? Sure, I'd understand it if they were like 11 or 12, but ''9''?

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* Arnold and Helga are 9, right? So what's up with all the GettingCrapPastTheRadar sexual overtones of the latter's feelings regarding the former? Sure, I'd understand it if they were like 11 or 12, but ''9''?''9''?
** Yeah, it's a bit creepy, but in a world where teen pregnancies are seemingly becoming the norm (hell, a ''fifth'' grader got pregnant at a school in my area) it doesn't surprise me that much. It's meant to be PlayedForLaughs and it's doubtful that Helga wants to rape him or something. Probably...
28th Dec '16 5:31:57 PM RayAP9
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*** Further proven in the fact that "Hilda" isn't really much different than what Helga is ''really'' like, other than not being a bully; she's only the opposite of what Arnold ''perceives'' Helga as. Both are poetic, value relationships and genuine kindness from others, and we know that (just like Hilda) Helga is actually a kind-hearted person on the inside. She just bullies people because she doesn't know how to handle the gamut of emotions she goes through on a regular basis. Also, when Helga dressed and acted like Lila (i.e., nice), Arnold couldn't stay away from her. It seems that the only thing keeping Arnold from potentially falling for her is her being a bully (don't forget that when they first met, Arnold graciously offered her some refuge from the pouring rain under his umbrella, and told her that he liked her bow).

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*** Further proven in the fact that "Hilda" isn't really much different than what Helga is ''really'' like, other than not being a bully; she's only the opposite of what Arnold ''perceives'' Helga as. Both are poetic, value relationships and genuine kindness from others, and we know that (just like Hilda) Helga is actually a kind-hearted person on the inside. She just bullies people because she doesn't know how to handle the gamut of emotions she goes through on a regular basis. Also, when Helga dressed and acted like Lila (i.e., nice), Arnold couldn't stay away from her.her-- same for when she pretended to be Arnold's pen pal, Cecile. It seems that the only thing keeping Arnold from potentially falling for her is her being a bully (don't forget that when they first met, Arnold graciously offered her some refuge from the pouring rain under his umbrella, and told her that he liked her bow).
17th Dec '16 9:15:37 AM shonengirl
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* How in the hell did Harold get so fat during the weight loss cruise in "Weighing Harold"? Sure, he said it was because he started stress eating, but in the commercial, they said the cruise had an "All-you-can-eat salad bar." Unless salad wasn't the only food on board (It's possible that the staff has some hidden for themselves.) or he drowned it in dressing, how did he get so fat eating salad?

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* How in the hell did Harold get so fat during the weight loss cruise in "Weighing Harold"? Sure, he said it was because he started stress eating, but in the commercial, they said the cruise had an "All-you-can-eat salad bar." Unless salad wasn't the only food on board (It's possible that the staff has some hidden for themselves.) or he drowned it in dressing, how did he get so fat eating salad?salad?
* Arnold and Helga are 9, right? So what's up with all the GettingCrapPastTheRadar sexual overtones of the latter's feelings regarding the former? Sure, I'd understand it if they were like 11 or 12, but ''9''?
10th Dec '16 3:06:00 PM thecarolinabull01
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*** Actually Hilda did have a monobrow (it was mostly covered by bangs) but she did look prettier than Helga. For one thing she had a ponytail instead of pigtails, visible eyelashes and wore red earrings, all Helga would have to do is change her hairstyle, wear mascara, put on earrings and stop being a mean and all would be fine.
10th Dec '16 2:55:29 PM thecarolinabull01
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** The movie has been put back into production, so we shall see soon.



* How in the hell did Harold get so fat during the weight loss cruise in "Weighing Harold"? Sure, he said it was because he started stress eating, but in the commercial, they said the cruise had an "All-you-can-eat salad bar." Unless salad wasn't the only food on board (It's possible that the staff has some hidden from themselves.) or he drowned it in dressing, how did he get so fat eating salad?

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* How in the hell did Harold get so fat during the weight loss cruise in "Weighing Harold"? Sure, he said it was because he started stress eating, but in the commercial, they said the cruise had an "All-you-can-eat salad bar." Unless salad wasn't the only food on board (It's possible that the staff has some hidden from for themselves.) or he drowned it in dressing, how did he get so fat eating salad?
7th Dec '16 4:53:53 PM thecarolinabull01
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** Besides, Eugene had already painted it mauve

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** Besides, Eugene had already painted it mauve
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** Another reason why and she and Helga aren't so different. Helga also became a bully because she was afraid of other kids bullying her.
7th Dec '16 3:55:49 PM thecarolinabull01
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** Or perhaps they were so disgusted and traumatized by watching a [[spoiler: bird being eaten alive]] that they forgot all about what it said.

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** Or perhaps they were so disgusted and traumatized by watching a [[spoiler: bird being eaten alive]] that they forgot all about what it said.said.
* How in the hell did Harold get so fat during the weight loss cruise in "Weighing Harold"? Sure, he said it was because he started stress eating, but in the commercial, they said the cruise had an "All-you-can-eat salad bar." Unless salad wasn't the only food on board (It's possible that the staff has some hidden from themselves.) or he drowned it in dressing, how did he get so fat eating salad?
30th Nov '16 9:36:05 PM thecarolinabull01
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** If ''The Patakis'' spinoff had been made, Bob would have started selling cell phones. Bob may be a buffoon, but when money is involved, he pays attention.



** Who said you had to excuse her behavior? Just because you like a character who does awful things doesn't mean you have to go DracoInLeatherPants over them, nor should you. For example, Darth Vader is my favorite ''Franchise/StarWars'' character. He has a tragic backstory and was good deep down, but he turned to evil, [[spoiler:killed children, choked his pregnant wife almost to death and cut his own son's hand off]]. Yet for all of the bad he did, he saved a lot of lives as a Jedi and ultimately dethroned his evil master, bringing apart the destruction of the Empire. At least for 30 years anyway.\\
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But back to Helga, she might not have known that Lila couldn't swim, but that's beside the point. Helga has done a lot of shitty things to not only Arnold, but others as well. However, she has also done good things as well, such as helping Mr. Hyuhn find his daughter by giving up her Spumoni boots or telling Arnold about Summer using him even though she knew it wouldn't help her chances with him. Bottom line: you're entitled to like any character you choose and you shouldn't feel bad for it. However, if you want your opinions to be seen as credible, you have to accept the character for what they are (the good and the bad) rather than ignoring what you don't like and trying to morph them into your own fantasy.



** No official confirmation that I'm aware of, just [[ShipTease Ship Teasing]].



** Or he could just be a big fifth grader with an unusually deep voice. I myself was almost 6 feet tall when I was in fifth grade, and my voice broke by then too. Many people thought I was a high schooler then.



** Yeah I agree, they'd probably more likely think it was a joke or something.

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** Yeah I agree, they'd probably more likely think it was a joke or something.something.
** Or perhaps they were so disgusted and traumatized by watching a [[spoiler: bird being eaten alive]] that they forgot all about what it said.
22nd Aug '16 2:02:59 AM ChrisDen
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** [[http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/The-True-Cost-of-a-False-Alarm-207622621.html Pulling a fire alarm on purpose when there is no fire is actually illegal.]] In the real world, the authorities likely would've gotten involved, and if they could prove he did it maliciously, Eugene would've been facing several hundred dollars in fines, at the very least. Curly, who pulled the fire alarm ''a second time'' at the end of the episode, is lucky he wasn't arrested.



* Did the Thanksgiving special seem like a BrokenAesop to anyone else? The general message is a fairly ordinary sort of "The grass is always greener" situation combined with some "Be nice to your family" sort of thing. The problem to me seems to be that the message is delivered to both Arnold... and ''Helga.'' While Arnold's TrueCompanions are genuinely likeable people, quirks aside (even Oskar isn't entirely the product of his own laziness), Helga's parents... really aren't good people. Although the special gives them a PetTheDog moment, the fact still remains that, 99% of the time, Bob is a self-absorbed money-grubbing man with almost no regard for the rest of humanity--even his own daughter most of the time--and her mother is [[TheAlcoholic perpetually sloshed and hungover.]] Their concern almost seems... out-of-character, considering how little they care for her otherwise. And even if it's sincere, shouldn't they be treating her as nicely ''all'' the time? (Olga's fine, and her worries are almost certainly truthful--but, [[ParodySue that's to be expected of Olga.]]) We're supposed to see Simmon's family as little better, but unlike Helga's family (of whom we have multiple instances of their negligence), we only see them once, and the implication (especially from Mr. Simmons himself) is that they're really very nice; they're just not party people.

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* Did the Thanksgiving special seem like a BrokenAesop to anyone else? The general message is a fairly ordinary sort of "The grass is always greener" situation combined with some "Be nice to your family" sort of thing. The problem to me seems to be that the message is delivered to both Arnold... and ''Helga.'' While Arnold's TrueCompanions are genuinely likeable likable people, quirks aside (even Oskar isn't entirely the product of his own laziness), Helga's parents... really aren't good people. Although the special gives them a PetTheDog moment, the fact still remains that, 99% of the time, Bob is a self-absorbed money-grubbing man with almost no regard for the rest of humanity--even his own daughter most of the time--and her mother is [[TheAlcoholic perpetually sloshed and hungover.]] Their concern almost seems... out-of-character, considering how little they care for her otherwise. And even if it's sincere, shouldn't they be treating her as nicely ''all'' the time? (Olga's fine, and her worries are almost certainly truthful--but, [[ParodySue that's to be expected of Olga.]]) We're supposed to see Simmon's Simmons's family as little better, but unlike Helga's family (of whom we have multiple instances of their negligence), we only see them once, and the implication (especially from Mr. Simmons himself) is that they're really very nice; they're just not party people.
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